This Is Truly Our TDS. credits: @Vict11099 as engifan68 most of the background music are from: @AZALI00013 @solare-ost #roblox #tds #towerdefensesimulator #towerdefense #fyp #robloxedit
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@marbeans_2 ай бұрын
This Is Truly Our TDS. despite accelerator not being the best tower anymore, it is still a better option for those who don't wanna spend hours grinding for the engineer cuz it's not really that big of a difference (other than it's usability in early-game and perhaps mid-game) but most of the time you'd probably be using these towers in late game so yeah it's just like what u guys say, each are good in their own ways
@maggiduck2 ай бұрын
yes
@tdspro12 ай бұрын
sure
@SPAS12-M2 ай бұрын
together, we are tower defense simulator
@Emperorneonled88672 ай бұрын
What if engi and accel? Every gamemode? With no medic?
@thomast-cb9vw2 ай бұрын
Btw engineer got nerf lol
@kkrandomworlds2 ай бұрын
Me with brawler watching the war:
@Calamity_6662 ай бұрын
Below about to nerf brawler: 😈
@kkrandomworlds2 ай бұрын
@@Calamity_666 me with brawler and sledger watching the war:
@namenonamex-sd3dv2 ай бұрын
Necromancer laugh loudly
@moak9082 ай бұрын
@@namenonamex-sd3dvnecro rn is really bad the bug makes it so the skeletons can’t spawn on max level
@MindiRamseyMarketing2 ай бұрын
Me watching the war with ranger who is like god Becuase he can pop lead balloons which none of the to can beat lol
@YORU9402 ай бұрын
I still have memories of when golden minigunner was the best tower in the game 😢
@isfrenchjei2 ай бұрын
he still is, in my heart✊😔
@Plush1322 ай бұрын
He still the best ( in case of solo )
@knightmare900003 күн бұрын
And Commando
@Aniflash731Күн бұрын
hi, hes best dps tower
@AndromedaAnimations2 ай бұрын
as expected, the video is extremely well made. Very cool
@Vict110992 ай бұрын
Peak voice acting and marbeans too (complimenting cus why not 🗿)
@xC4rl910d2 ай бұрын
*Pursuit laughing at the back*.
@namenonamex-sd3dv2 ай бұрын
Wym?
@LowtierFellNOW2 ай бұрын
Um acktualy🤓☝️ Persuit is also pretty good if you can't afford accel or engi But his counter is a frickin Hidden with 10 hp💀
@Vistaler2 ай бұрын
@LowtierFellNOW until the pursuit rework comes out which the devs said they would make
@justaplayer86292 ай бұрын
@@LowtierFellNOWpursuit when an enemy slightly faster than normal appears:
@namenonamex-sd3dv2 ай бұрын
@@LowtierFellNOW error slap
@leviathan53092 ай бұрын
Ok so, engineer have a way cheaper price to max and deals way more dps then accel but barely affected by the dps buffs making dj vey useful, however accel although is also only partially buffed due to overheat, it benefits way more from buffs from engi, so to make it better you basically need every dps buff possible, do note that the higher the buff the lesst effect the buffs are
@Instinct23-uf1rk2 ай бұрын
Engineer can also detect flying while accel can't and can be used in early game unlike accel
@Dimas-gt9pc2 ай бұрын
People always overrating accel cuz he have better late game potential, but after engineer got buff, the debate is over
@Instinct23-uf1rk2 ай бұрын
@@Dimas-gt9pc And people still like to debate cuz they are accel fanboys
@kittyface7107Ай бұрын
@@Instinct23-uf1rk they ruined the entire concept of accel it was based off the phaser from tb and was supposed to be a boss killer and now it's just a normal dps tower
@Instinct23-uf1rkАй бұрын
@@kittyface7107 Exactly, It was based off phaser from tb and because of that People called it a copy of it. Plus Accel is better than old accel tbh. It's only that other towers are much better than they used to be now
@monkepoxv1rus7732 ай бұрын
one of the most entertaining tds video i have ever seen and bro even put a life lesson at the end huge respect from me
@tyson125252 ай бұрын
I dont care which is better because i have both of them :) I like them both
@tdspro12 ай бұрын
same
@Moai-kn9vx2 ай бұрын
@@tdspro1 same 2
@YEETDACHILD2 ай бұрын
Same 3 I mean both r superior and it's the only attacking towers I'll ever use ngl (except for special gamemodes)
@Cat_LTU2 ай бұрын
We got that bacon 2.0 from the last video 💀🙏
@noobicusprime2 ай бұрын
I really like this style of video and the little lesson at the end is cool. New sub :)
@marbeans_2 ай бұрын
glad u enjoyed it :)
@Axo-17Ай бұрын
After 3-4 years (i couldn't remember exactly) accelerator was finally overthrown, rest easy king 👑.
@user-qs2yk7ut9b2 ай бұрын
the last minute got me almost to to tears wtf 😭
@AcieAceSha452 ай бұрын
luv the subtitles bro
@TheFancyBeeYTАй бұрын
I like the part when it said:
@gachafrieslol22542 ай бұрын
This is video is probably better then 60% of KZbin now cause this video is amazing!
@marbeans_2 ай бұрын
tysm!!
@CalebMartin-cb8ox2 ай бұрын
@@marbeans_naw, bro fix this video it’s so cap 😭😭😭
@gachafrieslol22542 ай бұрын
@@CalebMartin-cb8oxwdym?
@JayIsTheGreat2 ай бұрын
@@CalebMartin-cb8oxdawg.
@kokosanssmo312 ай бұрын
as a TDS nerd it depends on what waves they are good at, like accel being better than engineer at early-mid game and engineer being slight better at early but better at late game. If you wanna kill single tanky enemies its better to use Accelerator because it is cheaper with high damage, and crowds is better to be tackled by the Engineer because of the war machine sentries. Now if your saying which one is better alone, its def the Demoman bc it is super cheap and counters almost everything through early-late game.
@Dimas-gt9pc2 ай бұрын
I don't thing you is tds nerd, engineer is cheaper than accel at all levels and has higher dps, level 5 engineer and level 4 accel have same price but engineer have 20+ more dps that accel, so engineer is also better that accel to kill tanky enemy, and engi also have 70 dps splash at max level and very good to kill swarm, max level engi is cheaper that accel but have 170 dps more that accel with splash, better targeting and stun immunity. All engineer level value is better that every accel level value and that's not even close
@kokosanssmo312 ай бұрын
@@Dimas-gt9pc no it depends on damage plus firerate and depend on the enemy speed and hp, 2 level 3 accel can do better than level 5 engi and engi can leak more than the 2 accels bc one accel focus first while the other focus on the tanky enemy. But demoman is better bc its very cheap and counters crowds and tanky enemies
@kokosanssmo312 ай бұрын
@@Dimas-gt9pc and engineer takes time to build a new sentry so it delays her dps
@isfrenchjei2 ай бұрын
@@kokosanssmo31 "two level 3 accelerator does better than a level 5 engineer" this is so wrong lmao a level 5 engineer have the same price yet does more dps than that of 2 lvl 3 accels. Your targetting logic doesn't work because you're splitting the DPS in half, which makes no sense because it does basically nothing. For 21k and in early game you'd be better off with engis than accel due to his annoying chargeup and a low 600 damage cap (1200 for two accels). "Engineer takes time to build her sentries so it delays her DPS" which have low significance. The issue with engi is not her building time but her warmachines, only disappearing and reappearing one by one for 3 seconds with charge up. 4 WMS can go a long way, each lasting a minute and having different lifespan, the DPS loss is insignificant comparing to accel's chargeup. Also, engineer have better value since 6 unbuffed maxxed engineer does better than 8 unbuffed accelerators. Even with buffs accelerator only does better for 110 dps (comms + MB), which is miniscule. You can just bring them both, so it solves everything.
@kokosanssmo312 ай бұрын
@@isfrenchjei focusing on wikipedia again? people always does this. Its not entirely correct because even if the dps is much more than the other tower, it depends on how fast and tanky the enemy is and how fast and many damage the tower can do. level 5 Engineer has only 35 damage even with its Sentry it has only 50 damage in total which the fallen has 180 health which could make a struggle against fallens, because there is 4 of them and having a high health with fast speed would be a big problem if you are using Engineer. if you are using 2 level 3 Accelerators there would be 40 damage which is 10 more than level 4 and it costs 100 less than level 4 Accel, which can counter fallens very easily due to Accelerator's fast firerate and decent damage. This can also work on the Giant boss very well using the Accelerator as Engineer needs 140 scrap in total to place down a minigun sentry which barely does any damage, and the two level 3 Accelerators which has 40 damage would do way better because of its fast firerate and decent amount of damage. Not about DPS, it is about the damage and firerate and depending on the enemy's speed and health. The second one I agree because you are comparing the max level Engineer which would rapidly spawn a war machine sentry at late game and the Accelerator which would delay lots of DPS due to its overcharge and at that point Engineer would have more dps BUT I am talking about 2 level 3 Accels vs 1 level 5 Engi, which has a similar price only for 2 level 3 accel is 100 dollars cheaper (there is no difference). 2 level 3 Accels would do a better performance than the level 5 Engineer which I have already explained in the first paragraph. The Accelerator and Engineer does insanely horrible alone because of how expensive it is and how it does not counter that much things (especially in early game) like the Engineer can't counter the hiddens that well in wave 13 and 15 and the Accelerator being so expensive. One embarrassing thing about these two hardcore towers that shreds bosses, breakers can easily counter them. There is a reason why mortar and demoman mostly exists (same for MB's insane AoE) if you are saying Engineer would do good alone bc it has level 6 no problemo with war machine sentry's crowd control right? good luck getting it without farm bro because that 54k is not going to catch up with breaker4s 💀
@rajadina55122 ай бұрын
i love your vids what a W youtuber keep uploading bro :) (btw im from indonesian :)
@user-bs6bm1pg7bАй бұрын
1:41 w planes, i was scared for a moment that there will actually be an ad
@Charmander1352-zg3nsКүн бұрын
#wplanes
@BatGoat1939Ай бұрын
I'm an Engineer User but Accelerator is not far behind its still a good HC Tower, hell it can even back Engineer up if she needs more support and DPS ❤
@joshuaoliver92922 ай бұрын
We got accel vs engi before gta VI😭
@klaudiarecendiz56622 ай бұрын
What is VI 💀
@thegamingcat25212 ай бұрын
@@klaudiarecendiz5662bro are you dumb?? get outta preschool, VI means 6 in roman numerals LOLLLL 💀💀
@kona-bc2382 ай бұрын
i feel bad for you @@klaudiarecendiz5662
@Hi-IamBonnie2 ай бұрын
couple fight moments
@FrostsLostBrother2 ай бұрын
@@klaudiarecendiz5662 arabic numeral for 6
@TiredBoy_22 ай бұрын
Harsh reality for me, I always thought the accelerator was the best, in the 3 years I've been playing tds, the accelerator was always the top g, throughout heaven and earth, I thought it was the strongest. (great video bro keep it up as always)
@michas_332 ай бұрын
The most underrated tds content creator
@Karla-ce8bn2 ай бұрын
IN ENGINEER WE WHAT? 🗣🔥
@isosleepdeprivedАй бұрын
IN ENGI-HER WE TRUST 🗣🔥
@boxerthatisntcool2 ай бұрын
Waiting for the accel fan to say “what if fallen king and fallen guardians funnily pop your turrets and kill them”
@kennyminnekens93372 ай бұрын
shields laughing in the backgorund*
@boxerthatisntcool2 ай бұрын
@@kennyminnekens9337 stomp spam:
@VVooshbait2 ай бұрын
@@boxerthatisntcool stomp spam also affects accel greatly
@boxerthatisntcool2 ай бұрын
@@VVooshbait affects engineer a lot more since if the shield pops and there’s a 2nd stomp the turret gets grilled
@thebryan9thebryan9912 ай бұрын
@@boxerthatisntcool That really isn't possible for a boss to do that since Engineer would get unstunned before another stomp happens (Unless a boss like Fallen King does his sword spin attack and stomps but that's rare)
@Nayugako2 ай бұрын
I have them both and like them both 🤷♂️ And I think the engi’s buff is legitimate since it costs almost the double of the accel so it was making it kinda unworth the farm
@Shorts-wb4hq2 ай бұрын
For the price of an healthy kidney. The engin buff was needed😭 people were getting scammed before the buff, as they expected for the engi to have more DPS than the newton third law tower💀
@weeblettingz22532 ай бұрын
not me and my turret crying in the corner 😭
@adamanadolac52612 ай бұрын
It can actually be diffrent for multiple gamemodes imo engi is better for stuff like fallen and badlands bu accel is better for hardcore and poluted wastelands since the bosses spam thier moves and your sentrys are often gonna be destroyed and yea ik engi can deal with lead baloons but u got ramger for that overall they share the first place imo Edit: dont mind the typos im bored
@samuraidoge60392 ай бұрын
Are u new to tds cuz paintballer has always been the best tower and it isn’t even close
@alguienmasdelahumanidad13 күн бұрын
Engi and Accel are nothing without support, that means the next one should be about supports
@perkmin882 ай бұрын
Farm is best waifu
@TienNguyen-zu5dt2 ай бұрын
🗿
@isosleepdeprivedАй бұрын
Jit you tweakin you know it’s mili base humvee
@five87208 күн бұрын
who needs this war when you have both 😌
@EddySolorzano-td2ejАй бұрын
Before I wanted this I knew there would be an enji fan too 😂😂
@yesyes92 ай бұрын
peak content
@Youraverage_commenter-yi8yf2 ай бұрын
They're still not good enough units to be a tower creep unlike TDX lol so like I kinda think TDS is a bit more balanced
@deathvortex69352 ай бұрын
I use both in one match and all of it level 4 upgraded :3
@raidenbryceong73472 ай бұрын
Yo the animation things go crazy
@BucketWarriorАй бұрын
If we combine them its gonna op Thats strength and numbers!!!!!
@gtf23982 ай бұрын
the goat uploaded again
@A_local_pyro2 ай бұрын
Devs just made engi better than ANY other tower, in ANY way.
@Cat_png232 ай бұрын
Accel is the best for dps however due to recent nerfs its little bit hard to decide if its still the best
@Dimas-gt9pc2 ай бұрын
His max dps not get nerf, only the price has increased slightly
@noobiesgang799329 күн бұрын
Damn the subtitle is so funny ngl
@some_arrow_guy2 ай бұрын
accel is best tower, but only if you use all of the boosts like damage flag and firerate flag + commander + mercenary base, pretty sure he can get up to like 720-1000 dps
@Finnn692 ай бұрын
Max boosted accel is 652 dps but max boosted engi is 611 because only engi herself can be buffed.
@Dimas-gt9pc2 ай бұрын
Actually, Accel is not completely affected by the buff cuz his charge and charge up, accel with mercenary base+commander+all flag have 502,09 dps Meanwhile engineer with mercenary+commander+all flag have 610,71 dps
@iradafirstАй бұрын
@@Dimas-gt9pc ur def on something
@JoJo_WillАй бұрын
Mercenary Base and Golden Minigunner laughing in the corner:
@IsRepeatLyy2 ай бұрын
Golden Minigunner: finally, a worthy opponent.. our battle will be legendary
@RealDepuTy2 ай бұрын
YESS
@marbeans_2 ай бұрын
YEAHH
@lolilander522 ай бұрын
Peak subtitles
@cmnog21672 ай бұрын
Necromancer: 🥶
@UN11012 ай бұрын
2:00 there were teddy bears on the sentries and each teddy bear has a 5% chance of spawning
@justakiliTDW2 ай бұрын
Guys, just use Accel to get Engi, after use them both. Upd: I typed it when I only watched half of video 💀
@letsraceitph2 ай бұрын
Me without any hardcore towers: what.
@adolfitoabrego53372 ай бұрын
People who fight about engineer or accel better:🤓 People who use both:🗿
@sheepstudioss2 ай бұрын
Me and my farmers farming for thousand's watching : 🗿
@ToolHouse_2 ай бұрын
meanwhile me calculating 8 accel with commander doing 3.5k damage and 6 engineer with commander doing 3k damage 😎
@michas_332 ай бұрын
Same fr
@Instinct23-uf1rk2 ай бұрын
me also taking note that engi has splash damage and can detect flying and is cheaper
@EvanChaturvedi-fq2nn2 ай бұрын
Honestly, I have used engineer even when it was at its worst. I grinder when it came out, I got it by grinding it 130 gems per hour
@anshugoel27702 ай бұрын
Acell is better for continuous damage and engineer has higher dps but its dps can drop easily in modes where multiple of engineers turrets can get destroyed so both are good
@ramazangegek627526 күн бұрын
Farm is best tower in TDS🗿🗿🗿
@witas1312 ай бұрын
yeah, both accel and engineer gaming are good. glad that good ending occured
@MufaddalBohara-x5r24 күн бұрын
Accel is better let me explain(btw pls pin this comment so everyone knows): Because of new mercenary base accels max dps with support has increased to 448.2071712143 while engineers is just a bit high of a dps of 472.1024924012 However if u see 8 accel dps and comare with 6 engineer dps 6 engi:2832dps 8 accel:3585dps So accel is better
@greens17312 ай бұрын
Little do they know the golden mini total dps rise above both of these towers in the long run
@Ujd_fatalerror2 ай бұрын
I never thought engi vs accel would become true😭
@niceuuuuuu2 ай бұрын
Overall engineer is better more dps, sentries are stun immune, flying detection, versatility throughout the game (early to late) But accelerator is good at other things hidden detection, doesn't need to rebuilt sentries (needs a small recharge time tho), maximum placement limit of 8, compared to engi's 6
@A_local_pyro2 ай бұрын
Nah engi is just better in everything lol
@niceuuuuuu2 ай бұрын
@@A_local_pyro a non max engi by would die on that shadow boss wave and the accel wouldn't
@Dimas-gt9pc2 ай бұрын
@@niceuuuuuu sentry can get hidden detec before max lol, engineer have 6 level, level 5 sentry have same price as level 4 accel and have 20 more dps
@steph737472 ай бұрын
Paintballer>>>>>>>
@Ikari-Shin8420Ай бұрын
Engineer is better the price makes it viable and it doesn’t have a reload that makes accel unreliable
@jmanplays02 ай бұрын
Hehehe Consumable flags for accel :)
@NoahCalhoun-vo8te2 ай бұрын
nobody uses flags like that anymore, its better to use the other ones just for like support and stuff
@jmanplays02 ай бұрын
@@NoahCalhoun-vo8teif u have a bunch of gold and stuff accelerator is better But if you don't grind tds better to use engi For maximum chaos why not use both
@TecnologicNoobАй бұрын
people: war bc accel and eng me with 30 mini golden: 🙃🙃🙃
@Schumngus9022 ай бұрын
Idrc which is better, just use both
@user-ze7jn7gm2v2 ай бұрын
Green scout:oh oh☕👌🗿
@maskednoob58852 ай бұрын
Necro with potential 1K dps laughing in the background
@Dimas-gt9pc2 ай бұрын
Actually the necromancer only has 466 dps if you count 7 maximum targets
@sweptuuu2 ай бұрын
The answer to the video without watching it: Engineer is cheaper and has 500DPS (under max commander) while accel is a little more expensive and has 427 (under max commander) so yes the engineer is better in every way (unless u stack mercenary base commander Damage flag and firerate flag, then accel surpasses engi by a little but who is gonna do that)
@iradafirstАй бұрын
merc cant buff accel
@sweptuuuАй бұрын
@@iradafirst another example of dumbass
@iiXxCrispiepie_GamingiixX2 ай бұрын
This is why Engineer should be buffed the last time, it's barely better than accel. 4500 GEMS IS 2X EXPENSIVE TO 2500 so Engineer should be 2X BETTER!
@Flem_Volcanic2 ай бұрын
its basically is 2 times better,take a look at dps in fandom wiki
@sus_noob4282 ай бұрын
math is not mathing
@level13182 ай бұрын
Never let this man suggest any type of balance changes 😭.
@iiXxCrispiepie_GamingiixX2 ай бұрын
@@level1318 AHEM, at least I'm only talking about buffs, you should only say that if I talk about NERFS! Also, Engineer needs Pierce, almost always the place where Engineer is put, it would be good for Pierce.
@iiXxCrispiepie_GamingiixX2 ай бұрын
It's also not about the dps, its about the players who are lazy to grind for Engineer! If Engineer gets one more buff, I'm sure people wouldn't feel lazy to grind for it.
@jankasik21702 ай бұрын
* mercenary base laughing in The corner * (in pw2 sm1 placed maxed accel on like wave 18 and i placed maxed mercenary base on wave 20 and when final boss died my mercenary had like 260k total and accel 170k)
@maxineroe14572 ай бұрын
One thing you forgot one thing you can’t buff the sentries (i think)
@Dimas-gt9pc2 ай бұрын
6 engineer with commander still have more dps that 8 accel with commander
@beezyzzbee94642 ай бұрын
Me chilling with ky necromancer
@hoangminhbilly59192 ай бұрын
Which is better if one by one turret or minigunner? (No limited placement)
@AzmarayEffendi6 күн бұрын
turret joined the chat
@Eclipse_voidReaperX2 ай бұрын
4:41 destroy the weak
@noobplays28542 ай бұрын
Guys there’s no true best tower 😅 Let’s celebrate our differences 👨🏾👨🏼👨🏻👨🏿👨🏽👨
@coldie452 ай бұрын
since brawler update i haven't used accelerator, and since engineer's buff I've been mostly using engineer for dps in non solo, and i can confirm it's better than accelerator (I'm level 320+)
@Dimas-gt9pc2 ай бұрын
It's also much cheaper so it's better for non-solo
@Realsun92 ай бұрын
Finally engi is a little worth it to buy
@firewater39572 ай бұрын
Can someone tell me how a engineer who builds sentries beats a particle accelerator with a death beam
@Dimas-gt9pc2 ай бұрын
Engineers are also people who make accelerator weapons btw, so this makes sense
@CatBoy_editz12 ай бұрын
Explosions. Also accelerator doesn't have a death beam. It's most likely a laser beam in which we actually have nowadays. The Devs never confirmed that the accelerator to be more advanced than today's tech anywhere
@Mr_silly_doombriger_blue-122 ай бұрын
I just got two two teddy bears 2:01
@Hi-IamBonnie2 ай бұрын
Couple fight lol
@amirsaifuddin25402 ай бұрын
Hahahaha normal cowboy combo with farm is the best
@user-ev8wl2fb1dАй бұрын
I'm like both tower.
@agentpando9702 ай бұрын
it really depends because with buffs because engi sentrys cant be buffed but accelerator can be buffed i feel like that would be a game changer 🤓🤓
@tdspro12 ай бұрын
wait wait engineer not need any buffs so you can have more towers in your loadout
@justaplayer86292 ай бұрын
Even with commander it still does more dps
@redman48ita312 ай бұрын
Accel and enginner are good own way they have good think and also bad think to balanced and both are good different way but overall both good.
@Dimas-gt9pc2 ай бұрын
What a bad thing that engineer have?
@redman48ita312 ай бұрын
@@Dimas-gt9pc overprice at shop and full hidden detection at level 5 on sentry.
@bravo-N2 ай бұрын
I love both towers engi(recently got it had a lotta fun) and accel(got it for over (3 years) and I think.. Engineer is better, yeah I agree, but I have a question how the hell is plasma energy weaker than bullets and bombs(I am not an accel fanboy or some shit like that im js saying)
@Dimas-gt9pc2 ай бұрын
Maybe bc engineer is also person that make accel weapon
@bravo-N2 ай бұрын
@@Dimas-gt9pc but still its *P L A S M A*
@Tds_san2 ай бұрын
Accel is strong and has better looks so overall, its a win for accel...
@JoeMama1190yesyes2 ай бұрын
I look at the numbers and, engineer is only slightly weaker then accel but thats without the boss stun, sooo, yeah imma take engi
@Plush1322 ай бұрын
Me bouta' grind the sh*t out of my asz to getting all the gems that i need for brawler, engineer and necromamcer
@elord42052 ай бұрын
unlike engineer accelerator is a single most dps tower because engineer gets most of its dps from its turrets so yeah accelerator is still the higher single tower dps in the entire game
@fuki_dumb2 ай бұрын
Wth is this logic ☠️
@iradafirstАй бұрын
engineer has splash so engi better
@gomshom67iscool232 ай бұрын
imagine arguing over them just use them both lawl
@aggelosag49822 ай бұрын
What about hidden detection tho
@Dimas-gt9pc2 ай бұрын
Engineer sentry have hidden detection too
@aggelosag49822 ай бұрын
At lvl 4 tho which is expensive so not good for hidden bosses
@Dimas-gt9pc2 ай бұрын
@@aggelosag4982 it have same price as level 4 accel with 20 more dps
@robloxgameplay48792 ай бұрын
Yes i think now do fallen mode with accel are harder litterly
@gembro317Ай бұрын
BRAWLER MAKE BRAWLER JOIN
@MarcPare2006Ай бұрын
Both are good but i prefer Engineer
@Da-Drill2 ай бұрын
I use accel because im too lazy to grind for engi XD
@Be0mqyuАй бұрын
accel can defeat hidden bosses in w25 of hardcore much easier