Is all of this LEAD? (120 year old House Renovation)

[@eric_the_egggremlin]

the fact you made an entire logo in respect of the previous owner, labeling it as still partly hers in spirit, is so lovely and kind.

[@enriquegarciacota3914]

The camera has gradually gone from a disembodied passive observer into a human with face, body and even voice. Talky-tally totally works, I like both styles of videos.

[@stanleydenning]

Lead plumbing does not always cause the lead in the water. Over a period of years, the inside of the plumbing is coated by hard water deposits. This creates a barrier between the pipes and the water. It is not safe though. If the pipes are disturbed and some of the coatings breakaway, the water can become contaminated. I would advise that you replace all the remaining lead plumbing with modern materials. Bleiinstallationen verursachen nicht immer das Blei im Wasser. Im Laufe der Jahre wird das Innere der Rohrleitungen von Kalkablagerungen überzogen. Dadurch entsteht eine Barriere zwischen den Rohren und dem Wasser. Es ist jedoch nicht sicher. Wenn die Rohre gestört werden und einige der Beschichtungen abbrechen, kann das Wasser kontaminiert werden. Ich würde Ihnen raten, alle verbleibenden Bleiinstallationen durch moderne Materialien zu ersetzen.

[@cruelaz]

Jep friends of mine had the same problem with led pipes in their old home. If you have the money and are already renovating I would def go for redoing the pipes. They also found alot of old pipes going nowhere etc. So now they atleast have a clear plan where the pipes are and that they are led free so even if they get disturbed it wont matter and if you where already planning of changing up the layout of the plumbing it goes hand in hand

[@SeanBlader]

This is exactly what happened in Flint, Michigan. For decades their lead pipes were coated and safe, but in order to cut costs the state "emergency" managers switched their water supply from a river to a more acidic lake which corroded away the coating releasing the lead into the water. There wasn't really any emergency that the state had an excuse in order to appoint emergency managers, other than spending a proper amount on water, so the whole situation was contrived and pointless, and subjected a whole generation of the city to epic financial and medical ruin.

[@Ragnar8504]

@@davidf2118 Copper needs to be avoided if the water is acidic though.

[@dave29123]

@@SeanBlader Wikipedia says it was the reverse: "Flint switched its water supply from Lake Huron (via Detroit) to the Flint River". Everything else is accurate, though, I think.

[@DaHaiZhu]

Note on the paint: You only tested the surface coat. There may be layer(s) of lead paint under the top coat from previous painting. So for any sections you will refinish, you should carefully scrape off each layer of paint off and test it Before sanding the section. Also, on lead pipes: Cold water does not carry lead from pipes easily, but hot water does. So lead pipes from the water heater can carry the lead to the faucet. Better to replace all lead supply pipes just to be safe. waste pipes don't need to be replaced.

[@helenlecornu1651]

Exactly right with the lead paint - the underneath layers will probably contain lead, just because of the era. You have to scrape carefully to the older layers of paint and test as you go. Lead paint is generally safe unless it flakes and/or you disturb it (or have someone, animal or human chewing on it).

[@ltlbuddha]

She did use a file to cut through the paint on the second test

[@coreyrodgerson4853]

In the US, the EPA says that any paint used before the 1970s is assumed to have lead in it. But yes, the standard test is to cut it to the base material and rub the lead kit over the cut.

[@helenlecornu1651]

@@ltlbuddha you have to try it in every section you may disturb as the rooms may have been painted at different times compared to the trims or doors ie they may have repainted the bedrooms upstairs at one time and done the trim with different paint in a different era etc.

[@helenlecornu1651]

@@Styrofo4m each to their own 😉😀. I love the craftsmanship, history and detail of an old house compared to what you get for the same money now.

[@21GeeOff21]

These are the often overlooked aspects of renovation. I appreciate the full look into the whole process.

[@justinchipman1925]

Laura, some of the other commentors brushed on this (I only read a few) but we use a utility knife and score each tested surface. The lead from the lower layers will cause a reaction through that thin cut. Sorry if 47 people already pointed this out!

[@jonathanaul]

Just a thought: Outermost layers of paint will be more recent, thus less likely to contain lead. Might be worth checking older layers (find place where paint is chipped or cut has been made, exposing layers of paint which have been covered over for decades. If there's lead paint, that is where it will be found.

[@jetjazz05]

Cool cool... but... if it's buried so deeply you can't even tell is it worth removing??? Lead's only dangerous if you're eating it so... pretty inert to just be 3 paint layers back lol.

[@jonathanaul]

@@jetjazz05 If it's going to remain covered indefinitely, then no -- it's not anything to worry about. If you're going to be exposing those layers by cutting into or otherwise modifying the painted item, though, then maybe it's an item of concern, or at least calls for a little extra caution / care in disposal of waste. Really comes down to where the lead paint is and whether it's likely to be disturbed in the process of renovation.

[@mitchellkleckner5203]

@@jonathanaul Fully agree. Lead remediation is incredibly expensive and exposes countless folks to lead particulate, and is -- at least in the US -- often left in place and legally can just be painted over. If any construction/demolition is going on, it is definitely an item to keep note of as lead dust is a nasty thing.

[@kylieharrison3782]

There's plenty of products that removes paint by making it a jell. Consequently, no lead can get into body through inhalation, skin barriers, eyes etc. Just put the used paint jell stuff in a tin or super thick plastic container and take to chemical refuse facility for safe disposal. When doing house restoration or renovation best wear gloves, safety glasses and highest rated mask possible.

[@tayet6875]

Laura and Harri enabling each other is gold!

[@joeldcanfield_spinhead]

I'm enjoying the talky-talky.

[@tacticalglitterbomb]

Late to the party, but as a chemist by degree I found these test videos super interesting! To see the house in later phases is maybe more thrilling, but even this investigative content is great. Worth going back to watch it all!

[@russwilliams4777]

9:27 Presumably you could use just a normal swab/cotton bud soaked in white vinegar to check the ox-blood paint? That'd still probably pick up the paint colour, but doesn't contain the test reagent to do a colour change - so if it looks the same as the test swab, you've got proof that there was no colour change and hence no lead...

[@silvershroud9291]

For peace of mind and future proofing a full re-wire and re-plumb should be done as a matter of coarse. Once that's done everything else is just decoration, this will put you at ease and resolve most of the underlying issues. Love the logo btw, your brother is very talented.

[@mr.cooper2031]

^ This. It's a hassle and expensive, but doing it right upfront saves on later headaches.

[@berniesteadman7642]

Like asbestos, lead piping is fine, until it is disturbed. Köln has hard water, so the pipes should be lined with limescale, creating a barrier.

[@brucelee5465]

Lol. Send a sample to a lab and see.

[@ncc74656m]

Exactly. Lead needs to be leeched from the pipe to be dangerous. It's not the worst idea to remove it if you so choose, but it's also not harmful on its own if it develops a coating.

[@alboyer6]

Exactly! And what happened in Flint Michigan USA was they started using water from a different source that ate through protective barrier and it started leaching lead.

[@tims8603]

Yeah, they used to use lead based solder for copper pipes. The pipes get scale inside after a few years. My house was built in the 50s and added on in the 60s. I'm sure they used lead solder but it's, probably, not a problem. It's not a good idea to use hot water from the tap for coffee, tea etc. but, otherwise, it's not worth worrying about.

[@PerBuer]

Lead pipes are pretty safe. But say the pH drop or there is some more chlorine added to the drinking water. This will attack the lining and the pipe and then the lead contents of your drinking water will dramatically increase. IIRC this is what has happened with the municipal water pipes in Flint, Michigan.

[@heksedansd.2919]

What a beautiful gesture to the old lady that owned the house!❤

[@Swimdeep]

Love the “talky talky” content as well as your creation videos.

[@98Zai]

I don't mind this kind of content! It's fun to explore the house with you :)

[@fraugabel1677]

heji laura, i love the new aspects in your storytelling. i have to say, seeing you tidy up your shop and really using your storage system is almost like popping Luftpolsterfolie. so shout outs to you, felix and harry!

[@Gunbudder]

11:10 Both "paint" and "paints" are correct in this usage. Paint is both singular and plural, for example "look at that paint" or "look at all of the paint". But if your pluralize the word into "paints" then you would be talking about different categories of paint, which applies here. you have paint from different parts of the house that are different types of paint with different uses. I think most native speakers would only say "paints" if they were specifically talking about different brands of paint or maybe different types like high traction paint vs latex paint vs water color.

[@adriantaylor1266]

Asbestos on the walls, lead pipes and Liselotte lived there for more than 90 years…Good score.

[@MsYingyang2]

Yes, isn’t that amazing!

[@Dragonited]

There's only asbestos in the siding not the walls on the inside. So as long as you do not disturb it as with all things asbestos it's no issues. It's breaking it apart that releases the small crystal fibers that are harmful. Lead pipes are fine as long as your water is neutral or basic/hard. It's when it starts to go a bit acidic that it's starts to be dangerous. That is what happened in Flint Michigan when they switch out the water supply to a cheaper water source that was a bit acidic. That removed the limescale coating inside the lead pipes the lead to the water which caused all those issues.

[@54mgtf22]

If the previous home owner lived in the house for 92 years it can’t be too toxic. Love your work 👍

[@Outsideville]

I had a house from the 1940's and every painted surface had lead in a lower layer. I just painted over it and did disclaim it when I sold it, unlike the owner before me.

[@AgiHammerthief]

you might want to take out the lead pipe anyway: no lead in the water means a coat of calcium carbonate on the inside which reduces the diameter. One of my pipes was reduced from about 20mm to 10mm inside diameter after „just“ 60 years.

[@aitkendavies]

I would just like to say that it is a lovely gesture that you are honouring the lady that lived in the house for 92 years with the logo . That is an awesome thing to do .

[@AlbertYee]

I haven't used that kind of lead paint test, but the ones I've used, you have to cut through to the original surface to expose all layers of paint & then do the test, not just the top layer.

[@markring40]

My German major advisor at University was Dr. Professorin LiseLotte Gümpel. I loved her and her name too! She and her two younger sisters were among many German-Jewish children sent to England as refugees in 1939. You remind me of her. Smart, independent, fearless, curious and a love of life. Thanks for all of your great videos! 👍

[@thomasneugebauer2202]

Hey Laura, ich bin gelernter Gas-und Wasserintallateur. Das Blei löst sich eigentlich nur aus der Leitung wenn frisch daran gearbeitet wird. Es setzt sich eine Patina innen in dem Rohr ab welches so gut wie verhindert das Blei ins Wasser übergeht. Aber ich würde die Leitung trotzdem austauschen. Wenn Du Hilfe brauchst kannst Du Dich gerne melden. Gruß Thomas

[@Ragnar8504]

Hängt sehr vom Wasser ab. Wir hatten bis in die 90er Bleirohre im Haus (sehr weiches Wasser) und selbst die damaligen Bleigrenzwerte im Wasser waren weit überschritten (zehnfacher Wert nach ein paar Stunden ohne Wasserentnahme, nach 10 Minuten Laufen lassen immer noch 5-fach). In einem ähnlich alten Haus 5 Minuten entfernt war der Bleigehalt gerade noch so unter dem Grenzwert, heute sicher weit darüber, der aktuelle ist nämlich um eine Kommastelle niedriger, ich meine seit 2013. Abgesehen davon waren die Bleirohre bei uns schon seit den 80ern chronisch leck, meistens an Lötstellen.

[@janarascoe4343]

Love the battery storage. Brilliant!

[@VRwithAndrew]

Don't worry, Laura! I really like the talky talky videos too.

[@bloodgain]

We had some lead in the pipes when I lived on Ft. Greely in Alaska. They recommended running the water for 30 seconds before use, as the standing water in the pipes can pick up more lead. They also provided water filters and suggested using them for drinking and cooking water. The water there was very hard, so the risk was low, but both are good ideas for old lead and galvanized supply pipes.

[@jamesmaddigan8132]

If there are many paint layers, the swipe test may be only testing the top layer which may not contain lead, but older layers may have lead. Check the older underlying paint coatings. Sanding and burning type approaches are at the "bad" end of the spectrum for removing lead paint as they creates dust and vapours. There are safer ways. Knowing where there is lead, will guide you on what and how you do the renos for painted surfaces - check your local health advisories for working with and disposing of lead (and other hazardous materials). For the lead pipes, if the water is testing free of lead, that would appear to be a good indicator. To be sure you may want to send a sample to a laboratory, and check for local notices and what others in the area have experienced. There may also be lead piping used for your buried water supply from the main water supply to your house - learned that when a building I was working in for 15 years dug up the water supply and found the feed the building was a lead pipe. The building at the interior had copper and plastic piping, but also lead paint and asbestos. As noted by others below, the lead pipes may not be an issue if conditions stay the same. Flint, Michigan, USA, changed the city's water supply and treatment, which caused problems for old lead piping that had previously been stable and not leaching lead into people's water supply. www.nrdc.org/stories/flint-water-crisis-everything-you-need-know. When in doubt, get some professional input. Hoping your renos go well and safely.

[@ladyicondraco]

I love that you went to get lead to show the test working!!

[@jurriaandejongh8677]

That logo is * chef's kiss*

[@FECOSERVICE]

The Lady lived 92 years in this house. Needless to say you are safe for now. It is good that you have test for lead and asbestos now that we know the harm that it may cause. Who know you my live n this house for 150 years. As always I am enjoying your content.

[@DanielCooper1]

Love that Smudo. Such a good doggo.

[@doninis1354]

I agree it is totaly important to check these things, better safe than sorry! I had a friend with lead poisening he never recovered. Good for you you start now in the right time not in the winter!

[@azlandpilotcar4450]

Great garden at the house! Wondering how Lise lived there for 92 years -- apparently that is the good kind of lead and asbestos! Mineral build-up on the inside of the pipes will keep lead from pipes and joints from dissolving into the water. Just don't get a water softener. Might want check your roof gutters and downspouts for lead, too. Great testing video!

[@ScheunenTecCNC]

Hello, my half-timbered house is almost 200 years old. Be clever and renew all the water pipes. It's really easy with today's pressing technology and you're in a good mood as a craftsman. Nothing is worse than when an old water pipe breaks in a renovated home. Have fun and success with the renovation :-)

[@barbarabrown5709]

I think you can leave the asbestos siding on as long it isn’t powdered keep it painted and it should be fine to keep. Heat ducts can be covered in asbestos also. The main thing is to keep it from becoming airborne but you probably know that. Lead can also be found in the older mini blinds. As long as you are not chewing on your trim .

[@iliaalius101]

For old houses it is always a good idea to perform tests like these because the way we used to build has changed so much due to all the research on the material's effect on health

[@jeannedeperthuis8690]

Thanks for the "talkie" video, it's so important to show all part of the process, and security and health are often overlooked for content purposes. Thanks for showing that it should be taken seriously !

[@Rockhopper1]

personally I would replace all the pipework, the red lead was used as a primer many years ago. Many people think solder on copper pipes gets exposed to the water supply its so minimal not to be off concern. But replacing the lead will pay for itself if you sell the lead, personally I would keep the lead and smelt it for flashing on the roof and soffits.

[@jonathangehman4005]

Hey Laura! Thanks for showing your messy shop, it's encouraging to see that I'm not the only one who fights that battle. YOU ROCK WOMAN! Never stop

[@freeda8337]

Talky talky any time!

[@tnkrrbort214]

Oh, I LOVE that little truck! So cute! And the stone foundation of your house is lovely. Be safe, I respect your work.

[@sarah-janegalipo3995]

The last owner lived in the house for over 90 years. I think you are good!

[@TJ13062010]

Hi Laura, my parents had a water leak a year ago in copper piping (only 20 years old). The pipe installer explained to them that today he and most of his colleagues switched to stainless steel piping which is being press-fitted. This does not corrode (such as copper) does not contain lead and is not leaching anything that old PVC pipes might. With a "Rohrpresse" you could do this yourself. Good luck with your project 🙂

[@angiewarren6045]

Ms Lotte was 92 and she lived in the house her entire life, so you should be ok! I would’ve checked the insulation for asbestos when you were doing that test, but maybe you could do another round of testing in future? Love the series so far! A lot of work goes into these projects and I’m excited to see what you have planned! So sweet to develop your logo with her in mind! 😊

[@andrewgalbreath2101]

Loved to see the small stuff you do around the shop. I don't get big projects done very often, so that usually what I do in my shop on a given day

[@rickc2078]

I always have a under sink water filter, it removes over 99% of impurities from our drinking water, including lead. I change it once a year. Cute sitting on the toilet 😃

[@landerryan1485]

The thumbnail is killing me 😂😂😂

[@laurakampf]

😂😂😂

[@expatmousse5196]

I read, lead lead lead? I thought why she looking for Smudo’s lead on the toilet 🦮🦮🦮🦮

[@mkdrivingzone]

So will the lead!

[@andrewarcher880]

Great patch...can also be used to repair clothing to extend the life and avoid dumping it.

[@PartNinja]

Look into PEX tubing plumbing and a water manifold. Makes plumbing very easy.

[@ephemerics]

“Test the test.” Awesome

[@garryryan3654]

Thank you for another informative, interesting video. Hope you're enjoying the spring!

[@angelfoxer]

Well done Laura, have loved your work for years. Huge thing to admit a mistake, proud of you!

[@jimyoung440]

Hi Laura, my house was built in 1949 70 years ago and a couple of years ago I broke off the main supply pipe flush with the top of the concrete slab. The plumbing was a mess of different repairs some original iron pipe, replaced iron pipe, copper and PVC from several different owners. I replaced everything on my side of the water meter with PEX Tubing except for a section exposed to sunlight (it got iron pipe). Plumbing company estimate was $17,400. I finished - including upgrades and all repairs to walls and concrete driveway for about $2,700. Depending on the condition of your pipes please research PEX tubing, it is very DIY friendly. Jim Y

[@alans1816]

I’m glad you are checking. Knowledge is power. The scale does protect water from lead contact in pipes, and multiple paint layers protect from lead paint. However it’s nice to get rid of it, and it will never be less disruptive to your life to do that than it is before you move in.

[@Civiliwoodworks]

You are my favorite content creator! I love that you dabble in pretty much everything. It’s refreshing

[@raudi42]

The outro on the "throne" is just hilarious 😀

[@josephu6845]

Loving the talkie talkie content! Such an important part of the project

[@robertpearce8394]

Love that you are naming the house in honour of the lady who lived there for 92 years.

[@nicolalang5603]

I love that you named the house Lisr Lotte - it's a lovely name, too! We spent the last 3 days building our own house and I know what Laura means about the sense of achievement. It's good to have lots of small goals to get the reward and satisfaction, as it's a bit of a slog otherwise... I'm so enjoying seeing this process. We made mistakes and learned so much during our project, and loads of lovely people helped us both with advice and their practical skills.

[@judewilliams9345]

You are such a gorgeous lady. I love your enthusiasm with this house project - the garden is beautiful - also, how you listen to comments. Big hugs from Shropshire UK 🤗💗

[@fuzzygator1]

Thank you so much for these videos. As someone who is working on fixing up a 80 year old house it’s always nice to see other people share the experience. Keeps me from feeling to alone. Always love the content. Many thanks from Louisiana USA.

[@promiscuous5761]

Thank you.

[@kevinmcgrane4279]

My wife and I rehabbed two houses we’ve lived in over the years and we never quite “finished” them. We learned that they are never quite finished, because we were always finding things to “finish”. We learned to accept that good enough was good enough; it did not need to be perfect. Good luck with your home.

[@briantaylor9266]

Looking forward to this. We know that there is lead plumbing, and I've been concerned about the probability of lead in the paint. Fun fact: the English word 'plumbing' comes from the Latin word for lead 'plumbum'.

[@SebastianPastry]

I really like these ‘talky-tally’ videos, very informative and interesting to see the real process and challenges. I look forward to more usual builds and house investigations!

[@janetd4862]

I recently found your channel, and am slowly watching old videos. I was surprised to see you using a sewing machine exactly like mine! I’ve been using mine on leather and canvas.

[@dianalyman5950]

Excellent 👍 onward and upward. Love that new logo🏡

[@reforzar]

Dude. You’re almost to 700k. Outrageous! 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

[@TheJbertolino]

I've enjoyed your videos for some time and this video diary series is so enjoyable. You are making my memories of my first house renovations come flooding back! So much fun. Thank you!

[@JasonTheRed]

Really cool little house! Good luck restoring it to its full potential!

[@outlandishprofessor]

Great video! You did the right thing by testing for asbestos and lead. And you're also doing the right thing by switching back and forth between the house mega-project, and smaller "bite-size" projects.

[@PetervanderPalm]

I grew up in an old house with lead water pipes. My father helped as a little boy with sawing an asbestos sheet. I am 63 and still alive. I think I got lucky. I also have a nice idea, can you in your house now that you are going to renovate, can you collect the waste water from the sinks, shower and washing machine in a container and reuse it to flush the toilet. That seems really cool to me

[@charlotteandavril]

Laura check the wall paint as well!! They used white lead to colour the chalk paints! You can't latex over the chalk paints so you'll have to sand those down first. This means that you could expose yourself to lead dust

[@1UkuleleDude]

Brava for testing and working to make sure you and your friends are safe. And hey, really liked the flowers around the house!

[@esnipe2]

The strichtarn patch on the jacket is so cool

[@lasinhouseinthetrees1928]

Love your workshop a dream of mine is to have stuff like that and shit neat and tidy. It's a shame about the asbestos but I hope you can get that fixed. You're doing an amazing job. Don't let the comments get you down

[@veronicarar8227]

Happy for you !

[@viisteist1363]

7:17 - you are also rubbing it on the paint on the pipe 10:29 - there should be some oxidation layer inside the pipes that covers the Led, like in the roman times 2k years ago

[@UR-manden]

get over it all.... 120 year old house... Just go, go!

[@Maj7]

Laura, this slice of life video was actually pretty cool. Even though it wasn't a traditional build, it was still a lot of fun! Hope you are well, so cool to see your community, Felix, Harry, very cool!

[@RLU-wt8vi]

I saw cast iron waste pipes in basement. If you are going to replace any plumbing, also remove any cast iron to PVC. I've had cast iron with streaks of orange. Turns out, it was rust and it was leaking. After all these decades, paint could be the only thing holding it together. (Or protecting it, I don't know.) Love your show! Ohio

[@christophermacier]

Love coming along on this journey of your new home with you.

[@robynw6307]

I'm binging all your videos since you bought the house, and I was so concerned for you when you were doing the door. I hope you tested each paint layer on the doors. It seemed like you did. Don't forget to keep testing if you find more hidden layers of paint. Don't just assume that it's all good from this first round of testing. The older the paint, the more likely it is to contain lead.

[@ScottishB0b]

When I restored a house the plumber said to leave the lead pipe, that it didn't release lead until we disturbed it. We had it removed. Like yours supply pipes were lead, braised to copper for newer work. As others have said top layers of paint will not be lead based paints. Once you get 50-70 years back it will almost certainly will be. Buy a good respirator and wear it when sanding and for paint removal.

[@TinyBasementWorkshop]

That Yoda reference 😍 gosh, you‘re awesome!!!! 😊👍🏼

[@LawrenceConnolly]

Hilarious “from the toilet” 👍🏼😀

[@tomasjosefvela1]

I like to always test anything that's going to make dust even if I have tested in an area when i see different colors of paint or pull carpet, I'll pull a corner and do a test. They are so easy and I'd rather learn before I breath it in or get covered in it. Glad you did that, It's awesome that you can ask questions in your videos and have people without judgement give you info as you learn and as you bring your home to life. Thank you for sharing this, personally it's a bit of an escape for me from the situation I've recently found myself in. Good Vibes!

[@argumentfoireux1660]

Cheer and lead!

[@JohnMatthews72]

Ox blood paint has a high likelyhood of having lead as it was used as a coloring agent. (My old house had lots of it. Was glad to replace it with better alternatives,)

[@empathyrevolution]

This channel chills me out

[@coleenbarr]

Awesome, glad to see that there's no lead infecting! I haven't done lead testing and I should. I did the asbestos but not lead so you got me thinking I really should. Thank you Laura!

[@coleenbarr]

Also, you are very comforting lol.

[@sioframay]

It's an important part of the process and I never knew it was so easy to test for lead!

[@curm1778]

Best project to date. No Lead! Yes! Now, keep going. I think more people are interested in seeing what else you plan to do to your beautiful old house than in seeing another barbecue. I certainly am. Anyhow, you're a wonderful maker and I'll watch it all regardless.

[@draztiqmeshaz6226]

Yeah for the lead in the water you need to let the hot water run, that's what does the leaching. 💜

[@sydneyevans2637]

The house must not be too bad if the woman lived there for 92 years. Hope your rehab of the house goes well. I'm looking forward to seeing all of your projects because I love your attitude and outlook. Best regards.

[@danb8568]

Looks like you're glad, you found the lead. Laura, thanks for letting us being part of Haus Lieselotte 🙂

[@brokeartTV]

'Haus Lisse Lotte', thats great! We life in the house of 'mevrouw Paanacker'. The house is from 1952 and we are the seconds owners, she life there until she was 94 and lived until she was 103 years old.