Is Art the Clown, Sienna's Fathers Creation? | Popcorn Theory

[@3vil6in]

my theory is Johnathan is connected to Art in some sort of way. He could've easily killed Johnathan in the second movie and in this movie it just feels like they took him or have him hostage possibly in hell. Remember back in the second movie when Johnathan wanted to be Art for halloween? I have a feeling that connection has to do with Art and then we are gonna have to see Sienna kill Johnathan to break the curse but something is going to happen and Art is gonna break lose from the curse and absorb some sort of dark magic and breaking him out of hell as the demon form and still in the Art vessel and its gonna become chaotic

[@nERDbOX_official]

Yeeeeeeees

[@esavage8855]

I personally think that the forces of good knew art was coming and knew that they needed someone to stop art so they picked Sienna. So maybe since the dad was a bit weaker because of the tumor they gave the dad the visions so that he could prepare Sienna for what was to come. The other part of the reason I think this is the case is because of the scene in the third movie where the statue of Mary is making the demon forge Siennas sword

[@nERDbOX_official]

Sounds more on the level

[@esavage8855]

your video on this was super good very well thought out and detailed but I think fans are looking too deep into it. There’s nothing left to do but see where they decide to take it. I’ve really enjoyed the series so far and look forward to see where they decide to take the storyline!

[@nERDbOX_official]

@esavage8855 Yes, you may be right, some Terrifier fans starting to drift into the horror snob territory. Thanks for stopping by

[@esavage8855]

@@nERDbOX_official you’re welcome! 😊 thanks for the reply’s! I agree. This is what always happens when you have either a slow moving or vague storyline fans start looking way too hard into all the smallest details of every single aspect of the movie and they start making up theories. One prediction I do have though is that Johnathan is dead but Sienna is going to find him in hell or wherever she needs to go to find Gabby. I think this for a couple reasons 1 is it wouldn’t make sense for Art and Vikki to leave without Johnathan but somehow have his glasses. I also feel like having him just be dead but not show his death scene is very unsatisfying and it wouldn’t do his character justice

[@nERDbOX_official]

@esavage8855 right...we talked about on the live show. You can't kill a major character like that off, off screen

[@yourKING7]

I have a little suspicion that Art won't be completely dead at the end of the movie Terrifier 4. Because evil never dead. Yeah, Sienna will win Art at the end, maybe Leona himself or another filmmaker will continue the story, but with other actors and it'll be like another story.

[@nERDbOX_official]

I have an idea around the story will be picked up. Coming soon to Popcorn Theory

[@yourKING7]

@nERDbOX_official It'll be interesting 👍

[@jamisonisonify]

maybe art is a fan of michaels work somehow, maybe he made a comic book and art actually is copying his work inastead of the proposed ideas, probably not though, the shaws knew nothing about art in t2, they were wondering why jonathon was obsessing. but its a new idea. i really think siennas dad had a twin he never knew of that is art, and he was projecting images into michaels head, turning him evil. it explains alot.

[@nERDbOX_official]

The twin idea is good... a close uncle living out the comics

[@JurassicGojiFan1993]

I don't think he is, he is shown to be a completely normal dude in the first film.

[@brendonw456]

Yeah, Leone has been pretty consistent on that point. And I have to agree with his decision there. Art's story is just more interesting this way. Making him a creation of her father would be kind of...lame. It seems much, MUCH more likely to me that her father was granted visions of Sienna's potential future by an angel or God

[@JurassicGojiFan1993]

@@brendonw456 Yeah, kind of like how Hugh Jackman in Vanhelsing was parentally an angel.

[@nERDbOX_official]

I forgot to call out the biggest clue in this... Art's name is, well.... Art. But I'm with you all

[@meeffrazer7666]

yes. “completely normal”

[@Hollobaby1231]

@@meeffrazer7666lmao i was thinking the same thing, normal wellll lol

[@senpai919]

Dad having them episode is probably him seeing what's going to happen. I got that he was a prophet

[@nERDbOX_official]

Yeah, but I forgot to mention... Art, well that is his name too

[@brendonw456]

@@nERDbOX_official Yes, but Art was his name before Sienna or her dad were even concepts.

[@nERDbOX_official]

@brendonw456 true, but her father's newspaper clippings go to part 1

[@83shadow3]

It's confirmed on the audio commentary for Terrifier 2 2022 Damien Leone clearly says. That Siennas Father was shown visions of the future by a supernatural force. But the side of it was he got a brain tumor but he was basically. A modern day prophet seeing visions of a prophecy playing out. Between Art an his daughter this person did no easy research. The movies have been out on physical media for years with the audio commentaries with Damien Leone. Along with the other bonus features for the movies. This person chose to do nothing to get the facts directly from. The person who wrote an directed an created the movies.

[@nERDbOX_official]

@83shadow3 and Damien has said in several interviews that depending on fan reaction & feedback, the story can change. Plus, we have heard in interviews for other films a direction they were going, which changes in the future. Either way, I found it to be an interesting theory out to explore when I heard it.

[@Robert-nx9ew]

Yes! Sienna watches the TV in 2 "she got out of psychiatric care after months...like you Sienna" She was already hallucinating and had been to a mental hospital in her first movie. Her mom and Johnathan were both taking psych meds in 2. Plus Xanax! She said the brooke in the car. You never see Art kill anyone in front of both of them. I think Sienna and Johnathan are Art the clown, carrying on their fathers generational trauma, or manifesting him somehow.

[@brendonw456]

@@Robert-nx9ew That...would be impossible. Art has killed people when they aren't even remotely capable of being in the area. Like...he literally kills people in an entirely different town from them multiple times.

[@MushroomBasher]

You couldn't be more wrong lol Sienna and Jonathan aren't even in the first movie & they're taking meds in the 3rd movie not the 2nd movie, the 2nd movie is what causes them both to be taking meds and put Sienna in the mental hospital. & Neither of them are the clown that is just ridiculous 😂

[@Robert-nx9ew]

@@MushroomBasher that's wrong watch the second movie again sienna wakes from a nap and takes pills its only like 3 seconds but it's there. Them not being in the first movie doesn't mean Art wasn't their father what dad takes his kids with him on a murder spree.

[@Robert-nx9ew]

@@brendonw456 when? I don't recall that at all.

[@MushroomBasher]

@@Robert-nx9ew she's on xanax in the 2nd movie. Not psych meds. That's in the 3rd movie where both are taking them. &it's just not their dad either. There is not a single shred of evidence it's their dad. The dude is dead from the car accident he did to himself. Pretty sure they'd remember burying their father and having a funeral ect.

[@robbyroba]

I honestly think of two options: either he was Sienna's uncle, or the forces of good used her dad as an oracle. To me, the uncle theory made some sense.

[@robbyroba]

To explain: Art and Sienna's dad were brothers who had small inklings for the psychic. Both were lovers of art, but pursued it in different ways, one becoming a psychopathic serial killer who would join a carnival, and the other a comic book artist. However, the forces of good would give Sienna's dad premonitions and compelled him to subconsciously train Sienna to defeat the evil that was his brother.

[@nERDbOX_official]

Ooooooo. I like it

[@brendonw456]

@@robbyroba I...absolutely loathe this idea. Making Art and Sienna blood relatives instantly shrinks the world. "Secret relative" twists are definitely in line with the kind of stuff that Leone probably doesn't enjoy too. It's a hyper-lazy way to get a shock reaction. Also, Leone wants to leave Art's origin a mystery, and if he were related to Sienna, this would effectively be impossible to do. Art is the chosen one for forces of evil. Sienna is the chosen one for forces of good. That's all the relationship between them is. Art is more clued in than Sienna about the details, as he has been given direct contact with a demon guiding him.

[@robbyroba]

@@brendonw456 At the least I see that as better than the idea he was the father. But that is why I also said the second idea is that Art is simply unrelated and Sienna's father drew sketches of him because the forces of good gave him those premonitions.

[@robbyroba]

@@brendonw456 That and Leone did say that he was going to delve more into Art's character and potential backstory in the fourth film.

[@mohammed96011]

The storyline don't make sense. Victoria Hayes only killed one person and supposedly the vessel has to be someone sinister, depraved, the worst kind of evil. Like a serial killer. Victoria was not even a serial killer.

[@nERDbOX_official]

Yes.... that is something I may try and breakdown in the future. Because the little pale girl was Emily Crane first

[@MrsNajafalizade]

they sey that the director has confirmed that not their father , right?

[@nERDbOX_official]

That Michael Shaw is not Art? I believe so

[@MrsNajafalizade]

@nERDbOX_official has the director siad anything about this?

[@nERDbOX_official]

@@MrsNajafalizade I have watched a lot of interviews & can not recall this coming up

[@MrsNajafalizade]

@@nERDbOX_official oky ,thanks 🌹🙏

[@nERDbOX_official]

@@MrsNajafalizade sorry... not enough time in the day for all the interviews

[@atokadbbx]

Just by reading the title it seems like you havent seen the third movie. Art's origin is for the most part explained and the Dad is actually the one who was made to prepare Sienna so

[@nERDbOX_official]

Sounds like you didn't watch the video

[@atokadbbx]

@ correct because of the title

[@nERDbOX_official]

@atokadbbx well then you wouldn't know how that plays in. Thanks for commenting though

[@darrenemond8030]

...should I check my brain for a tumor?

[@nERDbOX_official]

Um... do you have any symptoms

[@darrenemond8030]

@@nERDbOX_official apparently. I painted all of the artwork you're describing

[@nERDbOX_official]

@@darrenemond8030 wait.... you worked in the film?

[@darrenemond8030]

@@nERDbOX_official I was the artist on all of the work you're describing

[@poptarget]

Wait, I thought that was Jason Patric 😉

[@wayne5553]

No...

[@nERDbOX_official]

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