IS ATHEISM A PRIMITIVE STANDARD?

[@mohammedrashid4292]

You just got to love our brother Shabir the way he conducts himself in a respectful intellectual manner.. this is how should be done 👍

[@moi984]

Considering the way of dialogue and the way of arguing and explaining, I think Mr. Shabir is number 1 in speakers corner at this moment.

[@mamindhive]

He is, his only fault is that he is too nice to rude aggressive attackers, he should learn to put them back in their place in a non nice way

[@EmruAlqais]

@@mamindhive *I've seen so many debates by brother Shabir, and I think he does it but intellectually, there's no need for grudges once you reach this high level of high level, see how the 2nd tooth fairy escaped*

[@cosimocub]

Love his non confrontational approach. A refined decent man

[@BG-uf8kh]

Legend

[@hammedkhalil1302]

When he said i am a muslim i felt proud 😌

[@imammurrah393]

THIS IS GOLD. When both came up with the tooth fairy and you pointed out the brain-washing i spat out my coffee. This was indeed revealing even for the atheists.

[@steevencoogan8754]

😂😂 what a coincidence 😂

[@Aquacrystal78]

The brain Washing part also surprised me😂

[@mmalikmm]

Amazing 👏

[@thegroove2000]

Is Allah the creator all knowing without error?.

[@John-hl5bo]

@@thegroove2000 if you acknowledge that allah is all knowing is should not have errors because that’ll be a contradict all knowing mean

[@fahad055]

Jazak Allah khair brother Shabir, you have good manners in term of speaking to others Even if they are not polite , And you make good points too , may Allah preserve you.

[@angled697]

I love how honest and blunt the young man's answers are. These are the necessary steps to unlock the truth.

[@mithunkhan937]

Brother shabir is brilliant..Alhamdulillah

[@Solemn_G]

Beautiful manners. May Allah bless Brother Shabir

[@abubakarsaidu2910]

Masha Allah. May Allah guide us all Brother Shabir 💖

[@biased6463]

Its sad that Shabir could not finish his train of thought after atheism being in a primitive position. I really wanted to learn about that. Its great though that him by saying that, it triggered the militant atheist. Because after that Shabir could easily pull him back on falsely equating God with the tooth fairy (astaghfirullah). And all the while the atheist was blunt and unjust, Shabir was the opposite. What a Dawah session! Logic and akhlak, step by step. Maa xaa Allah!

[@ashfinraseem7741]

Happy to see new content from Br. Shabir 🤗

[@Aquacrystal78]

Great Conversation 👍 The way people think is indeed dictated by how secularism wants people to think.

[@rizalarieffirdaus8831]

Such an intelligent conversation between intelligent peoples. Love Shabir

[@itzfaiz78666]

Shabir is on just different level, May Allah preserve this brother.

[@ultiumlabs4899]

"tooth fairy", they both use the same term, seems like they read the same book or watch the same video. But, for me, it is really difficult following the dialogue with an atheist, difficult term is used, just to move slowly like snails, and after 1 hour of discussion, seems like never reach the destination. But, I really appreciate the patience of Br Shabir in dawah, jazakumullah khairan.

[@IRAM_rehman]

Brother shabir is so knowledge mashallah

[@cordellconrad8225]

I'm the guy he was speaking to originally with the hood on and the plad shirt. It was a pleasure to speak with Shabir. Would like to have further discussions with him online in the future.

[@thethankfulservant9808]

Hi Cordell, I hope you find guidance I will leave you with one verse of the Qur'an: أَمْ خُلِقُوا مِنْ غَيْرِ شَيْءٍ أَمْ هُمُ الْخَالِقُونَ Did nothing create them or did they create themselves? ―Quran 52:35

[@AllTruthRevealed]

Hi Cordell I hope you are fine my brother. It was a pleasure speaking to you also. Anytime you want to engage with me please email me and we can arrange an online discussion. Shabir.

[@AllTruthRevealed]

Hi Cordell drop me a line at [e-mail]

[@HussainFahmy]

*_Unpacking an Atheist systematically._*

[@mytubemz]

Mashallsh Shabir, that was wonderful interaction with Sir Herb from Carolina USA. :-)

[@SugarFreeMisery]

when does Brother Shabir actually go to speakers corner? Seems so rare

[@afroman4035]

He said on the short video posted before this that they will be back in two weeks.

[@pakpohappy]

@@afroman4035 that's fast!, he usually comeback in 4 weeks, i'm expecting great conversations to come😀

[@afroman4035]

@@pakpohappy I know I really enjoy his videos.

[@uthman2281]

Brother Shabir 👍

[@Ma_Ogtahay24]

This is pure Gold, always use your mind and logic and the end you'll see a God.

[@random6809]

But you aren't.

[@Ma_Ogtahay24]

@@random6809 I am talking to the people who have mind 😁

[@essa200911]

May Allah bless you sheikh Shabir genius

[@homtanks7259]

JazakAllahu khairan

[@ihsanali0865]

Beautiful open honest interlectual discussion, ❤👏🏻👍🏻

[@GrumpX]

Not looking down on the the folks but it would be wonderful to see brother Shabir using his 'skills' on dialogues with intellectuals like Jordan Peterson and others like him. I believe he has the intellect and speaking skills to spar with them.

[@random6809]

No, he really doesn't. Dawkins would rip this amateur apart.

[@GrumpX]

@@random6809 You must have missed out the part where Dawkins admitted he was agnostic not atheist.

[@random6809]

@@GrumpX You must have missed that the meaning of Atheist and Agnostic are not mutually exclusive. Dawkins stated he is both Atheist and Agnostic.

[@GrumpX]

Then he must be a really confused chap. LoL Atheists do not believe in a Creator whereas Agnostics do not count that out.

[@random6809]

@@GrumpX You've just made my point that you can be BOTH.

[@v.w.v]

Im always looking forward for br. Shabir's video. Br Shabir's argument, point of ideas were simple and easy to understand.

[@azizarba]

Amazing discussion ...May Allah always protect you Brother Shabir. Please share anything related to brother Shabir speech.

[@Rico-Suave_]

I saw this before in another upload, watching again

[@kuldude9211]

I like Shabbir and this is just my opinion and am entitled to it (lol). If someone is not genuine in asking question and has an agenda then Br.Shabbir moves the discussion around and its not fruitful for me to learn. But in this case the questioner was genuine and the discussion was fruitful and I learned something

[@nfamaramarrie1790]

I like Shabir's way of dawah because he don't want only him talking he let the other people also talk .

[@Djoawd]

Beautiful

[@mib5116]

Brother Shabir..........that's how to discuss religion

[@mohamedabdulrahman3218]

Shabir is one of the best❤

[@AlmoravidsAlmohadsDynastie]

They will never use the example of the tooth fairy again

[@linkup901ify]

They will and us who've watched and understood will drag them through the mud for it. No more spaghetti monster and no more tooth fairy terrible examples that if you look at it try to impose or assume their worldview before it's proven. In fact it's incredibly common that people try to presume their worldview when debating and it's a sign of a weak position in my eyes. Like insults why do you need them except because you don't have a good response and have to fall back on emotions to not be overwhelmed.

[@homtanks7259]

At least Not against brother shabir😆 , subhanAllah

[@Bill_Garthright]

Why do we atheists need an example in the first place? Do you have *one piece of good evidence* that your god is real? Just *one,* but specific enough and in enough detail that I can judge it for myself? Then how can I believe your claims? Evidence is how we distinguish reality from delusion and wishful-thinking. As long as you don't have _anything_ distinguishable from wishful-thinking, how can I even take your claims seriously?

[@linkup901ify]

@@Bill_Garthright You need to do the same thing the guy in the video did, establish on what grounds are you looking for evidence. He said he didn't care to read the Quran and check the claims in it and hence he didn't even follow his own understanding as to how we should figure these things out. If you follow naturalism like him in the video then you need to prove that first before assuming it and then asking for evidence you likely don't even want to check.

[@elliot7205]

@@Bill_Garthright did you watch the video? What criteria are you going to use?

[@khalilahmad6071]

Brother shabir is a chess player check mate

[@iswallbanoo9843]

Salaam only one God and it's Allah SWT love here from South Africa Johannesburg pray 5 times a day

[@VayAutoAS]

Allah did guide those old couple even at the end of their life, even tho they did reject Allah all these years. Allah is so merciful.

[@ahmedadawy1238]

Ma sha Allah tabark Allah

[@leadfarmer9396]

Ma shaa Allah

[@quickquestion4271]

Excellent!

[@scottholder4431]

The yard stick we would use..............is investigation, science, time, communication with others, testing, plus many other things, etc.

[@ashbrauw]

knowledge is power

[@tucker4173]

when they both bringing up the tooth fairy is truly the highlight of the discussion

[@MThre3]

shabir is a boss!

[@mohammedjaafreh7699]

We would like to see more videos for brother shabir , if it possible .

[@AllTruthRevealed]

Inshallah we will be uploading more content.

[@dansonmenezes]

Shabir bhai apne sabse hard

[@cosimocub]

one of the few people at Speakers Corner who is civil

[@yogasz]

{ أَوَلَمۡ يَرَ ٱلَّذِينَ كَفَرُوٓاْ أَنَّ ٱلسَّمَٰوَٰتِ وَٱلۡأَرۡضَ كَانَتَا رَتۡقٗا فَفَتَقۡنَٰهُمَاۖ وَجَعَلۡنَا مِنَ ٱلۡمَآءِ كُلَّ شَيۡءٍ حَيٍّۚ أَفَلَا يُؤۡمِنُونَ } [Surah Al-Anbiyâ’: 30] Sahih International: Have those who disbelieved not considered that the heavens and the earth were a joined entity, and We separated them and made from water every living thing? Then will they not believe?

[@prabapermana5518]

Aha... Excellent

[@moi984]

It is ashame that Mr. Shabir did not completed the example of the 2 human bodies!

[@mickbell3932]

you should be a pro dancer, man your good

[@alberxenos]

Assalamu’alaikum warahmatullahi wabarakatuh السَّلاَمُ عَلَيْكُمْ وَرَحْمَةُ اللهِ وَبَرَكَاتُهُ

[@glassmanorangjitra]

Wa'alaiekom salam warrahmatullah wabarakatuh waa marr fii rro tuh...

[@michaelevans4110]

Walaykum Salam Wa ramatulahi barakatuhu Jazak Allahu Khayran

[@mdskhabib6607]

How many times Shabbir said : excellent

[@momomst2013]

The true Islamic faith is a solid solution to eliminate raisim ... this should be united with good morals .... but many do not want to learn it and practice it well ...🙄🤔❤

[@Astaqfirullah9]

Most Muslims abandoned practicing Islam except praying. Islam has no benefit for people who don't practice it properly. To eliminate or reduce racism, Muslims should attain Islamic manners and ethics to mobilize maintaining its advantages and benefits.

[@glassmanorangjitra]

Racism

[@gusxwazt1607]

This is WOW ! Really reeeeally appreciate it ❤️🙏 .

[@abdrochman2905]

SUPERB 😀😀

[@itisyouthatiadore]

My big philosophy in life is - I dont know, its so sad that these people weren't given the guidance, they are so lost

[@scottholder4431]

LMAO! Funny brother. There is no problem with admitting you "don't know" something when you do not know it. The problem is not knowing.........but then inserting your god as if you know. For example: Where did this universe come from? Well, we don't know do we? Religions claim to know this unknown, by just inserting their god for this unknown.

[@mbtjr1278]

Brother Shabir and Jordan Peterson would be a good one.

[@typerledsfk8190]

I was born and raised in the USA. Racism has not gotten better. It has gotten worse.

[@random6809]

No it hasn't, it is merely reported more.

[@Bill_Garthright]

How old are you? I'm 71 years old. Racism in America is _definitely_ better today than when I was a kid. So is other kinds of bigotry (against women, trans people, the LGBTQ community, etc.). There are fewer bigots these days, but bigotry gets more attention in the news. Also, bigots are losing, and they _know_ they're losing, so that makes them angry. And these days, racism - and religion - is _political_ in America. When I was a kid, racists were evenly distributed between _both_ political parties. The extremists didn't have the power they have today, after 50 years of the Republican Party's "Southern strategy" of deliberately wooing white racists. And again, they're losing and they _know_ they're losing. As they get fewer, they get more desperate and more violent (although racist violence was _still_ worse decades ago). Of course, there's still far too much racism in America - and worldwide - but it's not as bad here as it used to be. Not even close.

[@duffsman316]

“You could make any claim about the universe…” he says whilst claiming their is no God.

[@sadaqa-coin]

assalamu aleykum السلام عليكم

[@AllTruthRevealed]

Wassalaam

[@RodriguesPaul360]

Dude comes out of left field!!! Stops the flow of conversation!!! Doesn’t even know what the heck has BEEN spoken about thus far yet wants to interject like he has it all figured out !! Get a clue StU ..With tooth fairy analogy 🤣 go somewhere Stuart… take a backseat Stu.. ssssssshut up and listen !! Freaking annoying !!! With all the knowledge the atheists think they have, they still haven’t applied reason to how to conduct themselves appropriately!!!

[@thethankfulservant9808]

48:48 Brother Shut the Atheists mouth with his own remarks! 👏

[@freeyourmind7538]

@16:27 one million coincidences happening, can they still be called coincidences? BANG ON!!! Been saying this for years.........you can argue that we got lucky once or twice or thrice but continuously being lucky in such matters where a 0.001% difference could have ceased our existence just screams out....a Creator and will power!!! Its admitting that luckily a chicken biryani made itself, just luckily cut onions, by luck the over turned on and adjusted the temp, by luck the chicken slaughtered itself, plucked itself, by luck the spices grounded themselves and sprinkled all over the biryani, just the right spice too, not to hot and not too cold(similar to the Earth's distance from the sun!!!) Just admit it, there is a Creator, question is...Who or what is this Creator, is this Creator worthy of worship and did the Creator leave an instructional manual for us just as you would logically expect a creator of a wardrobe to give an instructional manual on how to assemble the wardrobe when you buy it packed from IKEA.

[@scottholder4431]

Not really because a coincidence is a set of events that seem to be related, but by no apparent causal link/connection. So if we have one million coincidences happening, we would still call them coincidences until we are able to find that causal link.

[@scottholder4431]

Its admitting that luckily a chicken biryani made itself," No, not even close. Chicken biryani has a causal connection............but events that seem to be related, but no causal connection can be found, we call them "coincidences".

[@scottholder4431]

Just admit it, there is a Creator, question is...Who or what is this Creator, " Well, first, we don't really know, do we? Was it created or did it exist in another form and just change shape/form? We don't know. But if we go on your idea that it was created........Atheists say it was created naturally, religions say it was created supernaturally, but there is no evidence of supernatural creating anything, and there is evidence of natural processes creating things. So, it's only logical to believe the creator was nature, not supernature.

[@ezzwizz5219]

@@scottholder4431 It about point of view (POV) Theist POV : Logical explanation come from human daily experience...for example when you see something complex like a car you will of course assume there is intelligence creator,then when you see complexity in the world so automatically you will assume there is intelligence God Meanwhile Atheist POV : Logical explanation come from science observation in nature...for example when scientist observes nature,they can see the complexity of nature but cannot detect any divine intervention on nature thus conclude a conclusion that nature develop itself To me, intellectual battle between theist and atheist will never end cause their logical source is different...which logical source is superior?...To me, both of them have finite knowledge thus can be incorrect.... But when come to morality theist is superior (based on their teaching) By the way : Al-Quran is miracle, you just need to find contradiction in it,and study arabic

[@scottholder4431]

@@ezzwizz5219 any divine intervention on nature thus conclude a conclusion that nature develop itself" Nope, we live in a cause and effect universe, so it's not done by itself. Who is lying to you and why were you not able to figure it out???

[@shawnmalloy4339]

What We can depend on is the ongoing expectation that "experience" brings about new knowledge. Objectively real knowledge. Period. When one faith fantasy after another utterly fails to demonstrate any Objective reality - other than psychological or cultural etc. - we can and should dismiss these primate supernatural worldviews; just exactly like We jettisoned the Flat Earth model- for example!!!

[@Aquacrystal78]

And what's your criteria of an Objective Reality??

[@shawnmalloy4339]

@@Aquacrystal78 Observable, testable, and verifiable to begin with; which is different from theist models of explanation, none of which can provide even the first thread of objective fact. Not a hair or letter or witness or artifact from any faith fantasy has EVER been provided for any of their narratives; and they all have zero predictive power! That's a 100% failure across the board...nothing but what is claimed to be true in their various faith books! What approach or system do you use to separate imagination from reality?

[@Aquacrystal78]

@@shawnmalloy4339 Is that the only way you establish the Truth for yourself??? I subscribe to a broader category of systems to establish the Truth.Just to name a few Systems such as Logic, Empirical Evidence,Mathematics, Testimonial Evidence, e.g in court the cross examination of witness testimony is used to establish a Murder. BTW What brother Shabbir criticised was that with respect to knowledgeble Atheists heavily relay on Empiricism therefore limit themselves.

[@shawnmalloy4339]

@@Aquacrystal78 Those are excellent ways to establish facts and evidence, which in turn lead to verifiable truth. Notice though that this is NOT what faith narratives do. They simply make claims, and have no mechanism for establishing the veracity of those claims; and apart from psychological and cultural comforts, those claims do nothing to advance moral progress. There is no "reason" to do anything other than rely on empirical evidence. Good luck my friend...

[@pakpohappy]

@@shawnmalloy4339 nope you were wrong, if you didn't believe it, follow this channel, and watch the videos, you will find brother Shabir exactly focus on investigating all the evidences

[@ousmanechamy87]

Love his manners mashallah respectful and intelligent conversations not just shouting and insults

[@momonasri8611]

I was grossed out bcuz the guy keep digging in his armpit to scratch it then I remember him handshaking brother Shabir😂😂😂 Astaghfirallah. Young fella intelligent but lacks the understanding may Allah swt guide him. Where did the intruders jumping in a conversation that was between two people utter ruddiness🤦🏽‍♂️🤦🏽‍♂️🤦🏽‍♂️. How you going to heckle conversation then get emotional 😂😂😂😂

[@Peerovich]

🤣

[@ahmedalshalchi]

Bro Shabir ... The real question why didn't you record that free speech battle at the back rather than this discussion with empty Atheist American guy ?!!

[@hakims511]

At the end, the tooth fairy guy left the conversion, why? He was unable to beat.

[@theDayOfAccount]

"I haven't seen hard evidence for god" while standing on a planet with life spinning at 1000mph in a galaxy flying through space at 1.3 million mph while you stand and feel nothing of it... sure, no evidence...

[@random6809]

Which is all explained without the need for an invisible sky daddy.

[@alia-wm8ug]

@@random6809 and it all happened randomly? You're better off believing that everything around you is not real

[@random6809]

@@alia-wm8ug Somebody believing in an invisible sky daddy shouldn't be lecturing others.

[@mrm1712]

@@random6809 amazing response. Clearly you couldn't respond with logic or rational argument, something atheists feel so proud of. Atheists are the most emotional people on the planet lol

[@mdrr2105]

Atheist only do R&D in A PARTICLE ....a PARTICLE not a tree or the inventor of the partcle/universe...ha ha

[@brozouk]

whats wrong with his arm pit?

[@sharulshah1979]

So long this only want to prover have god or not how far they go only to prove have god how many time they want to trow away because this problem if want to sofl only take 1 minit only

[@serazvictoria9845]

atheist always feel like they more intelligent. when the got ask "i dont know" "i dont care". hahahah oh my god

[@random6809]

The intelligent answer to the question of whether a god exists or not is, I don't know.

[@Aquacrystal78]

@@random6809 Why not be an agnost then???

[@prasg1186]

100% .. then claim humility for saying "i don't know" 🤣🤣

[@random6809]

@@Aquacrystal78 You can be both Atheist and Agnostic. The words have different meanings.

[@Bill_Garthright]

@@Aquacrystal78 I don't believe in a god or gods (atheist), but I don't claim to _know_ that gods don't exist (agnostic.) I call myself an "agnostic atheist" - or just an "atheist" for short - but the _label_ isn't the important thing. My position is. Do you have *one piece of good evidence* that your god is real, rather than just imaginary? Just *one,* but specific enough and in enough detail that I can judge it for myself? So far, I've never seen/heard even *one* example. Christians and Muslims alike tend to run away the minute I ask that. So what _should_ I think? After all, evidence is how we distinguish reality from delusion and wishful-thinking. And the vast majority of faith-based people worldwide just believe in whatever religion and whatever god or gods they were taught to believe as a child. (Majority Muslim countries _murder_ 'blasphemers,' 'apostates,' and atheists. If you have to use force to push your religion, that makes it pretty obvious that you have no _good_ reasons for believing it, don't you think?)

[@TheGolfCommunity1]

We Muslims are not asking why you don’t “know”, we’re asking why you don’t believe, BIG DIFFERENCE

[@TheGolfCommunity1]

@@Bill_Garthright seeing is knowing, I’m referring to believing. Do you understand the difference?

[@random6809]

@@TheGolfCommunity1 erm, Bill Garthright literally started the reply with, "I don't *believe* in a god or gods because...."

[@TheGolfCommunity1]

@@random6809 and then went on to use the word “seen” which does not apply to believing

[@random6809]

@@TheGolfCommunity1 Er, yeah it does!

[@TheGolfCommunity1]

@@random6809 so believing and knowing are the same thing to you, got it

[@John-hl5bo]

This gay is being honest all the 50 min video and I like him may god guides his soul

[@uthman2281]

Video evidence for God? Whaaat,

[@isjsjssjjjjsls8678]

Ask him if uk government gives him two options ..you either leave Islam or go back to Pakistan..what would 'wait a minute' guy say

[@AllTruthRevealed]

Thank you for your concern but we are sure that the British Government do not possess a primitive view and in any case you have got the geography wrong.

[@isjsjssjjjjsls8678]

@@AllTruthRevealed now u got reasons to stay hun ..primitive and shit..your Allah is not a priority I guess

[@amanpalestina9664]

Isjsjss Jjjjsls : is Australia in Wales ?

[@reecesnell6408]

He got let down by the tooth fairy and father christmas and possibly the bogeyman

[@konyaku3072]

"sub atomic particle on petri dish"? Is this guy seriously considered science study just happened on a petri dish? No wonder he cannot establish 'yard stick' for evidence of anything. So much stars to observe, so deep ocean yet to be explored. This guy would stick to some petri dishes.

[@lordglyder3246]

So high this guy ahaha up up n awayyyy

[@homtanks7259]

The militant?

[@Jdac333]

They claim science. Don’t know much. They end up looking frustrated and bored 🤣

[@thegroove2000]

Islam is metaphysical and philosophical not based on fact.

[@AllTruthRevealed]

You are entitled to your subjectivity.

[@thegroove2000]

@@AllTruthRevealed What does subjectivity mean?.

[@AllTruthRevealed]

@@thegroove2000 'based on or influenced by personal feelings, tastes or emotions' - definition of subjective.

[@omaramer7022]

I completely disagree with his approach of a superior and inferior being argument. If someone doesn’t believe in god then it’s just a circular argument. There is no point of making such an argument since there are many better arguments to proof god’s existence than this

[@ezzwizz5219]

It about point of view (POV) Theist POV : Logical explanation come from human daily experience...for example when you see something complex like a car you will of course assume there is intelligence creator,then when you see complexity in the world so automatically you will assume there is intelligence God Meanwhile Atheist POV : Logical explanation come from science observation in nature...for example when scientist observes nature,they can see the complexity of nature but cannot detect any divine intervention on nature thus conclude a conclusion that nature develop itself To me, intellectual battle between theist and atheist will never end cause their logical source is different...which logical source is superior?...To me, both of them have finite knowledge thus can be incorrect.... But when come to morality theist is superior (based on their teaching) By the way : Al-Quran is miracle, you just need to find contradiction in it,and study arabic

[@random6809]

@@ezzwizz5219 "But when come to morality theist is superior (based on their teaching)" No it isn't.

[@ezzwizz5219]

@@random6809 why isn't?

[@random6809]

@@ezzwizz5219 You tell me why it is, you said it.

[@ezzwizz5219]

@@random6809 Well i can say Rape is objectively wrong past,present and future because Allah said so and Allah is all knowing... Can atheist say Rape is objectively wrong?

[@borok2312]

he can't influence people.

[@Solemn_G]

Stewart was trippin' lol

[@mohammedjaafreh7699]

What's wrong with the atheist guy , brother keep safety distance from Your counterpart in the debate ، he may infected with monkeybox virus .

[@allhere4119]

Did this person know he was being recorded? Because it looks very sinister the way u done this

[@fadlanfadilah1171]

??????

[@thegroove2000]

The idea of a creator and one called Allah is not an objective proven fact but an assumption. Thats been honest.

[@AllTruthRevealed]

Please do share with us what criteria you would use to objectively prove that the beginning of the universe is a fact?

[@thegroove2000]

@@AllTruthRevealed If your not deluded you would admit that it is not a fact that Allah is real. That is the intellectually honest position.

[@AllTruthRevealed]

@@thegroove2000 Thank you for your response. We did ask a reasonable question based on your 'reasoning' and you seem to avoid answering. Please do answer it.

[@thegroove2000]

@@AllTruthRevealed What does it mean to be a fact according to the accepted tried and tested definition? I await your response and no obfuscating. Be honest.

[@AllTruthRevealed]

@@thegroove2000 If you can respectfully answer our question which is based on your 'reasoning' perhaps we can move the discussion forward. No obfuscation at all. We look forward to an answer from you in your next post.

[@sdsfgsty]

First he should see a dermatologist 😁😆😁

[@Jawad-df7hm]

Shabir destroyer of tooth fairy

[@scottholder4431]

This muslim brother is not exactly right because logic doesn't dictate that if there is a creator that the creator will inform the creation on how........(he didn't get to finish his question), but it doesn't matter if he got to finish because his error comes before this. Mix baking soda with vinegar and it creates bubbles; a reaction. Did the creator of that reaction(baking soda and vinegar) inform the bubbles on how........?

[@المسلمالمغربي-ص9د]

depends on what you mean by inform the bubbles how , it is conceivable that the reaction wouldn't create bubbles , but would instead create fire for example , in a sense informing could be the creator forcing the reaction to yield a certain effect . What the muslim brother said i think , is that if the creator were to exist , and he is a superior being to the creation , then the only way we would get to know him is through revelation or other means by which the creator could inform us of his existance . whether the creator wants to or not , there are many claims of him communicating with mankind , islam christianity judaism etc..... , the fact that every culture has a belief in a higher being that created the universe , is to me evidence that there is something to investigate .

[@scottholder4431]

@@المسلمالمغربي-ص9د Well, Im talking about when baking soda and vinegar react to create bubbles.............did the baking soda or vinegar or both inform the bubbles? And if 1 of them did inform the bubbles, how did you rule out that it wasn't the other one?

[@المسلمالمغربي-ص9د]

@@scottholder4431 and by inform do you mean cause ?

[@scottholder4431]

@@المسلمالمغربي-ص9د If informed meaned cause...........then I wouldn't use inform, I would use cause.

[@carliemorales204]

@@scottholder4431 If the bubble is anything like you, you may inform it.

[@داعيإلىاللهعلىمنهجالسلف]

Muslims are like supder heroes between people lol

[@steevencoogan8754]

This guy need a bath maybe. Scratchy scratch.

[@thepilgrim1581]

'Islam is not the learning of the truth in GOD but the delusional training of the mind to think it is the truth in a God'. Peace be unto all the misguided Only thru JESUS CHRIST can you walk the path towards the Kingdom of Heaven. Amen

[@AllTruthRevealed]

You are entitled to your opinions. Please clarify - is that the Jesus (Isa) who is a Messenger, or is that the Jesus who Christians claim is God in human form or is that the Jesus who Christians claim was god and the son at the same time? We await your definitive response.

[@thepilgrim1581]

@@AllTruthRevealed YESHUA translated into Arabic is spelt??? ISA ❌ No star for you. YESUAH or even YESUA ✔️ Yay! Well done. Peace be unto all the misguided Only thru JESUS CHRIST can you walk the path towards the Kingdom of Heaven. Amen

[@AllTruthRevealed]

@@thepilgrim1581 Thank you for your response. Please do remind us where exactly you answered our question?

[@thepilgrim1581]

@@AllTruthRevealed Then I shall answer you. The assumption by mankind has made GOD subject to the very creature GOD has created, this thought process can only come from the Serpent. The very Serpent that persuaded Adam and Eve to eat the Apple. The same Serpent providing delusional religions upon this world for mankind to follow. SATAN controls All religions. ISLAM, Roman Catholics, Hindus, Mormons, Voo Doo witchcraft, New Age... Etc etc... All belongs to SATAN. GOD DOES NOT HAVE RELIGION. GOD HAS REVELATION. This is why JESUS revealed himself before man so that mankind can walk the narrow path towards the Kingdom of Heaven. But not many will for mankind have strayed and have been decieved by SATAN. Muslims say GOD cannot be something just because you do not understand. Then you have therefor made GOD subject to you because you have determined what GOD can and cannot do. Am I right? SO, IS GOD SUBJECT TO YOU? YES OR NO? Who then who gave you that thought process if not for SATAN? Your Al lah is the Best of Decievers and ALL MUSLIMS have allowed themselves to be decieved. REPENT !! FOR YOUR SOUL WILL BE CONSUMED BY THE DEVIL. It is written: SURAH AL-JINN AYAT 19 (72:19 QURAN) MUHSIN KHAN (It has been revealed to me that) When the slave of Allah (Muhammad SAW) stood up invoking (his Lord Allah) in prayer to Him they (the jinns) just made round him a dense crowd as if sticking one over the other (in order to listen to the Prophet’s recitation). You do not understand what you are doing. You are summoning demons when you recite the Qur'an. DO NOT SUMMON EVIL. DO NOT BE POSSESSED BY DEMONS Aiesha has a Shaitan Muhammad has a Shaitan Therefor All Muslims have a Shaitan. Peace be unto all the misguided Only thru JESUS CHRIST can you walk the path towards the Kingdom of Heaven. Amen

[@Seeker-ec1dd]

It's funny that Shabir thinks reading the book will change the mathematician's mind. why would someone who does not believe in a tooth fairy believe that an angel could come and deliver Gods message. Language was created by humans, it's surprising that the angel started speaking in precisely the same language. how do angels speak when they do not have a physical body unless it is just human imagination.

[@AllTruthRevealed]

Respectfully any reasonable individual who considers matters logically rationally and reasonably will accept Islam after considering the contents of the Quran. Your opinions lack an objective yardstick. Consider that as a basis for any opinion you formulate otherwise all your views are merely subjective.

[@Seeker-ec1dd]

​@@AllTruthRevealed why are men treated differently than women? how can men be allowed to have up to 4 wives and woman only 1 husband? it is impossible to treat 4 wives fairly. why is the Book written from a man's perspective? what do you mean by objective yardstick. Anything that has to be read and interpreted by a human is subjective.

[@AllTruthRevealed]

@@Seeker-ec1dd You are again entitled to your subjectivity. Whatever you disagree with has to have an objective basis and you cannot seem to produce your objective yardstick by which to formulate reasonable conclusions. Try again.

[@Seeker-ec1dd]

@@AllTruthRevealed From my perspective there is nothing objective. Anything and everything we discuss/talk is in the context of each persons experience or understanding. Just adding God in between does not make anything objective. what is your best objective basis or yardstick?

[@AllTruthRevealed]

@@Seeker-ec1dd Please confirm that you are aware of the difference between objectivity and subjectivity as a basis for understanding before we proceed further.

[@chedin2649]

Atheist out of logical..

[@Syed_12]

( Do Christians And Jews and "OTHER" non-Muslims go to Heaven? ) Quran 2:62 '' Those who believe (in the Quran) and those who follow the Jewish (scriptures) and the Christians and the Sabians->ANYAllah< Is The Protector Of Monasteries, Churches, Synagogues And The Mosques ) Quran 22:40 [They are] those who have been evicted from their homes without right - only because they say, " Our Lord is God " And were it not that God checks the people, some by means of others, there would have been demolished monasteries, churches, synagogues, and mosques in which the name of God is much mentioned. And God will surely support those who support Him. Indeed, God is Powerful and Exalted in Might. Note: Why did Allah protected Churches and Synagogues if they worship false Allah ? ( Why Are There So Many Different Religions In The World ? ) Quran 5 48 ''...... If God wanted He could have made all of you a single nation.( ie single religion ) But He willed otherwise in order to test you in what He has given you (ie Scriptures) therefore try to excel one another in good deeds. Ultimately you all shall return to God then He will show you the truth of those matters in which you '' >DISPUTE verb < not noun like other religions Islam mean "submission" to God ( The above verse saying is that God will not accept a religion from the >MUSLIM< and the Non-Muslims but total "submission" to God ) Question: How Can Muslim And the Non-Muslim "submit" to the God? Answer: Be kind to other human beings and Do not lie, Do not steal, Do not cheat, Do not hurt others, Do not be prideful and Do the charity work. Note: If you obeyed all the ABOVE Allah-God's moral laws "YOU" submitted to God.( ie Islam mean "submission" to God ) The only people who will enter Paradise those who '' Submitted to God '' ( ie by good deeds ) God does NOT accept your religion of birth but only ''Your Total'' Submission to Him. ( God Allows Interfaith Marriages And Eat Food From the Christian And Jew And Vice Versa ) Quran 5:5 ''This day [all] good foods have been made lawful, and the food of those who were given the Scripture (ie Christian and Jew) is lawful for you and your food is lawful for them. And [lawful in marriage are] chaste women from among the believers (ie Muslim ) and chaste women from among those who were given the Scripture (ie Christian and Jew) before you, when you have given them their due compensation, desiring chastity not unlawful sexual intercourse or taking [secret] lovers. And whoever denies the faith - his work has become worthless and he in the Hereafter will be among the losers.'' Note: > Only < Islam allows interfaith marriages (>14 hundredsSame God< but They are >ALL Corrupt< more or less, some more than others from their original foundational teaching. The older religion are MORE corrupted than newer religion. Question to Muslim and Christian: Does God / Allah only answer your pray ? And God / Allah does not answer non Muslim / non Christian pray? Did Allah '' Canceled '' all other religions Judaism and Christianity? Quran 5:48 '' And We have revealed to you [O Muhammad] the Book in truth, confirming that which preceded it of the Scripture ( ie New and old Testament ) and as a criterion over it. So judge between them by what Allah has revealed and do not follow their inclinations away from what has come to you of the truth. >>>TO EACH OF YOU WE PRESCRIBED A LAW AND A METHODone nation>differ qualified < for to enter Paradise ) On the day of judgement God will ''NOT'' judge humanity bases on Sunni Muslim sect VS Shia Muslim sect ''NOR'' by Muslim VS non-Muslim >but< Doer of Goods VS Doer of Evils. '' YOUR " birth in the Muslim's family is NOT a > qualification < for to enter the Paradise. '' YOUR " religion / sect / foot long beard is NOT a > qualification < for to enter the Paradise. The > qualification < to enter Paradise is > Faith in God and Good Work

[@khalil2kh]

You can take your interpretation and throw it in the bin , we have narrations and interpretation from the prophet we don't need a third one from you 🤷 believing in God and the day after is not according to you mate is according to what Allah says in the Quran and Sunnah

[@allhere4119]

This interviewer is very disingenuous

[@AllTruthRevealed]

Please do explain why you think a discussion in a public place is disingenuous?

[@allhere4119]

@@AllTruthRevealed lol you mean why i think the interviewer is disingenuous (is this who im speaking to)

[@allhere4119]

??

[@AllTruthRevealed]

@@allhere4119 Thank you for your response. We addressed the discussion because there was no interviewer.