Is Bang Si Hyuk A Bad Businessman And Just got Lucky With

[@bourjoism3917]

BHS is not a businessman he is a visionary like Steve job..he trust people around him remember he put all his money on RM even his dad was sceptical but he trust his gut so much and his vision he went with it ..imagine if BTS wasn’t successful BSH would lost everything ..I have a business myself see in my head what I want but I was unfortunate to trust my associates I lost a lot of money I am not a business woman I have to rely on people working for me same as BSH he has to rely on people and sometimes you paid heavy price.

[@seahorse3267]

To be successful one can’t be afraid of taking chances,falling. Imagine if BTS didn’t work out, BSH would’ve still had a career as producer. Regarding choosing right partner, LSM at SM chose his own blood relation but got betrayed. No guarantees in life but can’t stop taking chances because it could fail.

[@bourjoism3917]

@ I know But its BSH took a huge gamble he was really lucky to have BTS no one in their right mind would do that…it’s reminds me of my dad friend who used all his inheritance money to buy a land no one wanted bc it’s easily flooded everyone called him crazy until 18 years later on Airport folks come to buy the area for millions 😂😂he became suddenly wealthy now everyone is jealous 😂

[@LivingSweetly]

BSH is incredibly intelligent and introspective, a class act, and a brilliant visionary who has worked very hard to achieve success for both others and himself. 💜

[@xiaomaila]

OMG，How much he pays you? Are you kidding? He is just luckily to find BTS.

[@xiaomaila]

Without BTS, he is NOTHING

[@LivingSweetly]

@@xiaomaila, I think BSH would still be an accomplished and successful visionary and businessman if BTS wasn't part of the equation. However, the fact that BSH and BTS found each other is incredibly good for the world. 💜

[@LivingSweetly]

@@xiaomaila BSH would still be an accomplished and successful visionary and businessman.

[@clairdelunek]

He is crazy smart. When a talented artist added it synergies crazy

[@xiaomaila]

He is a bully

[@evetteallen4263]

I think Bang Pd and our 7 angels are just blessed. They came as an example to others. Look where we came from, nothing and are still here in spite of all the hate they are still getting

[@wildlotus4339]

However MHJ has some strong supporters tho. They are very dedicated in destroying Hybe's reputation. From media to institutions including sport club. They support her with malicious champaign against Hybe. It is like political champaign to destroy the oponen.

[@yen-8680]

@@wildlotus4339 All the incels and sleezy old uncles are working hard.

[@seahorse3267]

Yes, MHJ seems to be backed by someone. Ultimately, energy spent on smearing else’s achievements instead of her own says insecure. Self proclaimed having created kpop, dance moves, esthetics more obsessed taking HYBE down. Good luck to her finding anyone to back her ventures, lol.

[@adewoyinaderonke6277]

Something MHJ and a lot of K-pop fans don't understand is that Hybe and BSH have strategically planned its root with the international fans All of people talking trash about hybe don't understand the first thing about business deaings and the mistakes made in the process Hybe’s business strategy is a great business model, and that is why a lot of korean companies, both entertainment and non entertainment, are terrified of that company Hybe is coded and strategic in their doings, which is why a lot of people are frustrated when they can't figure them out

[@sisisworld]

In Business land there is no such thing like "Luck". Doesn't matter how "luck" you are it will not help your business thrive and grow if you don't know what to do 😅 You fail, learn, fail again and go on till you make it happen

[@hueningbahiyyih627]

There is someone very powerful behind Min Heejin… more powerful than just the entertainment industry because this woman literally has the media, the parliament, judicial system prejudiced against HYBE. That’s also why MHJ is so confident in her crimes

[@LPnerd]

MY Guess is she is a SM plant and a political pawn.

[@MikiBorahae]

Clearly, it's not powerful enough. The public speaking up against the politicians was a good thing. Some voted on dismissing, and that was good. Only the gossip magazines publish the drama. Most people don't care about her in Korea.

[@yen-8680]

@@hueningbahiyyih627 ehm ehm… kakao

[@reginapetrosian8742]

The President himself?!?! Whoever it is, their choice is wrong...

[@iamxristine]

IMO, the witch must be good at what she does as a creative person, esp that she also came from another big company. I mean, she must have had a good resume. In fairness to Chairman Bang, if he knew she had ulterior motives, for sure he didn't get her. The real colors just had to come out because greed was strong!

[@MoonstoneStarChaser]

It seems to me snake’s reputation as a creative genius is as fake as the snake. Someone who sneakily copies or rips off other peoples work is no creative genius. The creative industry is full of these weasels.

[@roguechevelle]

@@MoonstoneStarChaser I think she had a great many people fooled including many business executives. I also think she built her past great business reputation on the backs of subordinates she took credit from and from ripping off others work. I remember when the press conference happened the channel John Kim (Komerican-OG) did 4 vids covering the MHJ vs Hybe and in the first video when he talked about MHJ he spoke of her having a great reputation being part of creating famous kpop groups. John is from America but lived in Korea for over 20yrs, he even thought she was a great get for Hybe (smart business move) but after watching the press conference he realized she is crazy. She looked good on paper having a puffed up resume and I'm sure her image in the media was also puffed up likely her media friends helped to suppress any bad press about her.

[@iamxristine]

​ @MoonstoneStarChaser @roguechevelle You're right! She must have used a lot of people, regardless of the means (obviously evil means), to get to where she is/ WAS. WAS --- past tense--- is appropriate now. Everything she is now, is all negative.

[@mplahke]

Remember, she got V's Layover through production after he had stalled out in previous attempts.

[@nanisantiago307]

BSH he's savvy his downfall is that he is too trusting and heartfelt about other people, all because he's been up and down when he didn't want to keep following the politics in the business that was going against what was in his heart to accomplish, while people say about other co not having complaints the artist contracts with the artist are strictly about protecting the co

[@GrandPurple1306]

I don't believe the snake would take such a huge risk loosing her own money and her reputation without having someone backing her up! The fact she use old pants as a tool to ruin HYBE's reputation it's not a misjudgment from her side! She knew before hand she was putting their career in danger but this was a risk she could take in order to make her plan work! Now that old pants are in the worst possible place has no impact in her case because if she wins HYBE she will seem as a revolutionary figure , she will be old pants and k pops savior ,she will gain 26M.out of nowhere and of course she will manage to do what SM and Kakao ent . couldn't do all this time, bring down HYBE! On the other hand if she lose she will gaslight everyone by saying that " bad" HYBE ruined old pants career and she will go back working for SM or Kakao! I am certain the money she spends for top notch lawyers are paid by those who collaborates with , whoever they are, and the fact that she lost her house for covering expenses either is a lie or she lost for another reason! Another fact that all this makes sense to me is the words Bang Si Hyuk allegedly used for old pants. He wanted old pants to become the competitor girl group of Aespa! By using old pants as a battling ram to ruin HYBE she managed to take out competition for SM and Aespa , at least for the time being! Imagine if HYBE managed to have top Boy group ( BTS) and girl group ( old pants) this would be devastating for Kakao and SM! So I believe everything was well planned by the snake and her collaborators! Maybe the one factor they didn't put under serious consideration was the BTS international fan base ,the difference in their way of thinking their impact and loyalty! The fact HYBE compensate BTS with a part of company stocks was a very clever move . One of the reasons ARMY support HYBE is the fact BTS are part owners of what they built, HYBE! It's the feeling of security that our money were well spent!

[@maryr1905]

I agree that the international perspective by global ARMY has lessened what could have been an effective campaign against Hybe. International ARMY didn’t fall for the scandal culture media and responded in ways that neutralized her efforts to bring BTS down. It gave Hybe the ability to do what it needed to do legally. That has been very interesting to watch and I’m sure has been really frustrating for the Snake and her backers.

[@valerinist]

korean doesn't like big company since their economy n society binding with hierarchical level of power n rich ppl, surpress with so kuch pressure to survive n system under those influence create hateness n distrust from those powerful company. for those political aspect, those just merely attention seeker for public show off to win ppl heart? im not sure whats going on but im not buying such opinion as big company definitely evil company nor do i 100% believe perfect n flawless, high sanity company bcs business need to take too much consideration including investors n market perspective. just keep rational n independence perspective viewpoint at the moment. i believe in bts, that's all i need to know. there ll be ppl who support them certainly there ll be ppl against them as some fear they affect their best interest in reality business n influence perspective.

[@kkchen2]

He built the biggest music company in Korea off 1 group. The guy is smart. Let’s not get carried away.

[@MikiBorahae]

Around the time when MHJ was announced in her position. He explained that she was her friend who used to work in SM. So the question about why this ? Or why that? needs to stop. It happened, he trusted, he got betrayed by many, not only her, but is a tough business. But the fact that BTS became world stars and Hybe became the number 1 in South Korea is not luck is destiny. It was meant to happen if the right choices were made at the right time. Otherwise, their destiny would have been different. I believe that destiny is made according to your choices. He made the right choices in business with guidance and research. He is a very smart man. Most people see him and think nothing of him or the things that he is capable of for the company.

[@LPnerd]

He didn't hire the snake!!!! He just ok'd what his second in command kept asking for! How many times do I have to explain this. the next CEO is the one that kept giving snake crazy contracts and money! Bang was gone and Bang did NOT make her a CEO of anything. Park CEO did all of that!

[@rebeccaavoca9143]

yup, I heard he was also the one that recommended MHJ to Bang PD

[@caris7304]

He is chairman of the board so sorry, he cannot be scott free.

[@caris7304]

Scooter had him over the barrel in the end. Sorry, grand ambitions, yes. Execution?- Look the cash positions....

[@roguechevelle]

I'm glad your pointing out the other Ceo founders of kpop labels who have made plenty of mistakes some I think much worse or illegal. Also others keep pointing out that the former ceo Park Ji won was more responsible for MHJ gaining so much power. I don't think it's fair to put the blame all on one person in this case when many things had to get the approval of or a sign off from other people.

[@nicoleloss7987]

He hired her to do branding. And then to work with source music newjeans

[@Baddiesc7gn]

He is a genius and innovator. BH is proof of that. So is bts. He hired MHJ because she had been successful creating brands at SM.

[@esmeraldasoliano7073]

Why?? Becos he did not think she would be so malicious n cunning

[@LPnerd]

Park was already tapped to become CEO before Bang left. Park wanted the snake and Bang ok'd it. Bang's mistake was Park CEO. Park made snake a CEO, NOT BANG PD

[@midnight_blue6793]

It was not Bang si hyuk's fault. It was Park Ji won's fault. This is why Bang si hyuk, along with the other shareholders, had to get rid of him.

[@NoraBee-g5b]

No, not lucky. No one is perfect. The success is so huge that this was not lucky. It doesnt matter what the mistake is, it s about how he is handling it.

[@patrice942]

You can be a good businessman, but you can also be lucky in your " discovery." There are plenty of people out there with great ideas, products, etc., but if you do not have the ability to implement them, then you are not successful. Yes, I believe either BSH gave MHJ all those perks himself or he just OK'd it after it was drawn up because he " trusted" what he was told or the person who brought him the contract. Who knows. On the other hand, BSH got lucky ( or stars aligned) with the 7 boys he saw, and who eventually made it into the final BTS group.

[@dawnkrueger9168]

First, you can be a brilliant business mind, and still make a bad call. Second, is how he insured he protected everyone under his care, when shit hit the fan... Being professional, while dealing with personal attacks is hard, but he handled ALL OF THIS...with genuine diplomatic aplomb. He wins, because he stated probable facts, while she went for lies and false facts that were easily displayed.

[@CCL1218-s8z]

He was involved in earlier years. Then things got messier.

[@suga_rush]

The thing is that people like Voldy like to fatten up their food before slaughter. She must have acted very sweetly towards Bang PD before she showed her true colours and unless you've experienced this sort of abuse before it is difficult to catch it. She's doing the same thing with old pants too but because Bang PD has a lot more experience in life he could recognize it sooner. Even though his generosity is the reason for all this, people forget that he is her victim too. I don't trust Bang PD like I trust BTS because I don't really know a lot about him. But he seems to be a visionary who is ambitious and a little pushy as well as an artist who values sincerity and ethics. I wouldn't say he's a good businessman but I wouldn't say he's bad either. He's an unusual businessman. BigHit nearly went bankrupt at one point until BTS's HYYH saved it, but he himself played such a significant part in HYYH. We tend to have these dramatic ups and downs with him every once in a while, specially when the environment he is in opposes his vision. But every businessman makes mistakes at one point or another. I think Voldy isn't just taking all the credit for old pants' success, she actually believes it herself too. That is why she is willing to risk their reputation for her benefit because in her mind she is the only one who matters.

[@lawaanjaideelyon1890]

He lent her 2 billon won

[@isiseungella4688]

Anyone building a financially sound conglomerate is a good businessman, especially in 5 years. That's impressive in any industry. His aim to move it from national to international is daring, especially in the present political and financial climate, but he is succeeding. You are only as strong as your weakest link and hindsight shows who was trustworthy. Money and power are bound to attract jealousy, sociopaths and criminals but in older companies those situations don't come to public light. The conspiracy didn't go far: that, of itself, shows he had build systems and loyalties to protect his organisation and his investment. Plus the plan was childish and poorly executed: asking around for finance from those close to Hybe? Betting on an internet smear campaigns? Your business relies solely on a few poorly trained brats and a single group not yet established? Your advisor is a shaman ie unqualified in that field? 😂 that's insane! Whomever financed her has more money than business sense. A race horse might have been a safer bet! 😂

[@hypesuga8387]

I think, He reallu have a vision, but he's vision didnt even change after all He achieved or He's new visions isn't that effective anymore

[@patriciamurashige6879]

Once he went corporate and “sold’” it as a bigger company!! He lost already! Once it’s a big corporation all that matters is the shareholders!! The bigwigs have different sights as to where and how the company is headed to make more money! So to me, my humble opinion, once HYBE came to be…. It was going in a different direction! BTS is nothing to HYBE!! BTS was BANG’S Baby !! And that’s how bang got to sell big hit for big bucks!! It’s all about the “SHOW ME THE MOMEY” They (BTS) are on the way down because they been around for 10 years and now HYBE needs to be looking for the next “BTS” and more!!!

[@tracydowd4013]

"Bratty Pants" is my favorite name, better than "Old Shorts". I really do think Voldy has another thing planned that isn't apparent to us yet. But I'm sure we will find out soon. I'm conflicted on her leaving HYBE. I'm glad her negative energy isn't there any more, but at the same time, my main questions are "what is she up to?", and "what is Bratty Pants going to do now?" and "was that her plan all along? to ruin ador and Bratty Pants, and leave them to deal with the fall out?" Or, "Is she going to somehow get investors to pay for their contract and steal them away from HYBE?" And finally, "what is the big thing she is waiting to drop, to target BTS and/or HYBE?". I do not underestimate her at all. I really do hope that her leaving is a good sign, and that there is hope that "Bratty Pants (BP)" will be able to benefit from the training and artistic growth that they can get from the benefits of HYBE. If you look at BP's success so far, it shows that they have talent and potential. They just need support and guidance to make it to the next step of becoming even better artists. But the attitude, mental strength, and humility needs to be there also, or it won't work. Anyway, I think I made sense. Let me know if you see any flaws in my thinking.

[@simple_me5283]

Bsh good as producer but still not good as management

[@rebeccaavoca9143]

not involve in managing anymore .. duh

[@PheobeRe]

He is a smart businessman and got lucky with BTS. But it is hard to admire him now because the company is like a messy toxic place.

[@michaelmitchell7350]

Look people MHJ is crazy but very talented so I could see why Chairman Bang would hire her. My only problem is why did he give her unchecked power that's where he messed up and it could of cost him his company.

[@xiaomaila]

Bang is just lucky. He happened to get BTS and BTS 's success has nothing to do with him. BTS 's rapline created the songs and BTS have great chemistry together and very funny. They also got good timing to enter AMerican market. But after BTS, he has failed so many times, he never got another BTS. And he screwed all his girl groups. He is a failed Businessman and he bullied NJ and MHJ. Stop lying and protecting him. He is so disgusting .

[@xiaomaila]

He made enough money and left HYBE to leave in LA mansion. Now all he cares is his money and fame. Yet you guys already given him so much money still are his slaves? Why? Why defend a bully? Why worship him? If you are fans of BTS, support BTS, not this man. No need to always kneels in front of a powerful man. Be strong and has some self esteem.

[@xiaomaila]

I feel very disgust to see some Army always kneeling infront of Bang. Stand up and use your brain.

[@xiaomaila]

I cant wait they make a documentary about him. I believe we will see more of his secret.

[@monanavik9964]

He is just lucky

[@yen-8680]

He is good as producer.. but business esp cunning business… he is not brilliant imo . But as Jin said before 😂 he is lucky with BTS.

[@MikiBorahae]

So, the hybe came out from the dust? Who made all of it happen? He created and built everything.

[@stargazing2628]

​@@MikiBorahaepretty much, He got lucky with BTS. Bighit before BTS and after BTS are mid, so are other Hybe groups, good and successful groups but none of them comes anywhere close to BTS especially when it comes to success, the only exception is BTS. Bighit, Hybe got lucky with BTS, all of the seven members. BSH still have a better idea about artists than the other big 3 companies but he's no mastermind and there's no formula for BTS's level of success.

[@MikiBorahae]

@stargazing2628 you must not follow anything about the company. Luck is nothing without hard work and brains.

[@yen-8680]

@@MikiBorahae tbh 90% of it BTS built it imo. Bsh did his part and he did well guiding them… but BTS is definitely the biggest factor to hybe.

[@DearlyBeloved652]

​​@@stargazing2628People who say BTS did everything themselves simply don't understand business or take Jin's joke too seriously. They were teens with absolutely no experience in business. There is no way they built BigHit or Hybe alone. They went to university after Hybe was already existing. Saying Bang isn't a great businessman because others aren't at BTS level is silly. No one can hand out BTS level of success just because they want to and it's disrespectful to BTS to even expect that Bang could repeat their success so easily for others. Everyone can't be the best. BTS is the best.

[@Bonnke-i5k]

So BigHit released an article praising the achievements of OT6 but EXCLUDED ANY MENTION OF TAEHYUNG. Are you still going to deny that there is a systematic sabotage against Tae? Is this another "ooops, sorry, we forgot to add V" scenario? Let me guess, you're not going to address this and even if you do, I bet you will defend BSH and BigHit and claim this is an honest mistake. Prove us wrong, please.