Is Banjaw Pladdie? MSM Theory

[@blooplesdoesstuff8072]

It’s probably more likely that, instead of Banjaws literally being dead Pladdies, they’re just vaguely related species. Several bios mention that evolution occurs within the monster world, so it wouldn’t be surprising if they had some common ancestor but diverged quite far from each other. Although, considering the anatomical differences, it’s probably more likely that they just convergently evolved to have the same structure of having a mouth of some base with eyes atop a long tube-stalk type thing.

[@cocomoch5392]

I agree I think we know for peckinda’s bio hints she evolved from woolabee. So your right how w know sometimes monsters have evolutions

[@reinierjantaliping7561]

TL;DR

[@dezpappas9201]

I agree

[@jeromem2164]

@@dezpappas9201 I agree

[@hehebloxy]

BOOO

[@Moxxie566]

I love how as of yesterday banjaw and pladdie have canonically met each other for the first time

[@IamAmeron]

Yep

[@Breadward_MacGluten]

Isn't Banjaw's tendon actually a ligament because it connects a bone to a bone? Tendons connect bones to muscles, and it always seemed off to me that his bio calls it a tendon.

[@zackbuildit88]

I thought it was some type of dry cartilage

[@Breadward_MacGluten]

@@zackbuildit88 that would actually make even more sense. I just connected it closer to a ligament since the game calls it a tendon, which it isn't

[@MegaMega-iu5ou]

It has to be some sort of keratin, cartilage, tissue, or ligament. That's just my theory on the "banjaw and pladdie being the same" thing.

[@astralblob]

Now we are gonna talk about Clackula and Clamble!

[@CringeyFishy]

Yo i was this but nvm for some reason i think clamble is clackula the clamble thing on the head broke and it former the hands into the clackula hands and the neck extend and wear a different clothe that looks like clackula and then clamble burned and that the result for clackula Hmm maybe i am more weird

[@Sion070]

But epic clamble wold work better

[@RemMcKoffl3r]

@@Sion070 yea, I think Clackula is clamble 1. They both have claws 2. They both have the spines 3. Clackula's skull is what's inside Clamble

[@mrbamberyt8158]

@@RemMcKoffl3r but epic clamble has five or four eyes and clakula only had 2

[@mrbamberyt8158]

@@RemMcKoffl3r das pwoof

[@WillTheRaccoon]

I honestly think banjaw may be some ancient relative of pladdie

[@user-sq3ey3jg4k]

Prolly an ancestor

[@KoolChillDudeGaming]

No

[@definitely_notgex1353]

@@KoolChillDudeGaming shut up dude with Beluga profile picture beluga is cringe he legitimately just took the picture from someone’s cat

[@cheese_productions]

I think will be like a paddle but it just has no squish and having his eyes rolls and his pipes move and look like thicker versions and the holed pipes maybe closed so uh yeah

[@WannzKaswan]

Nah, they have quite different anatomies. I think it's just convergent evolution.

[@guyshu7821]

I love how the third Wubbox judge drew a Furcorn.

[@taylorsgameroom]

Me toXD

[@lomotbc4244]

8, 9 and Furcorn.

[@mariaedileuzaferreira2941]

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[@mariaedileuzaferreira2941]

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[@lilmea8191]

202

[@WigwamMan]

I would love to see rare pladdie be a living version of banjaw. Or at least a refrence

[@SwankemasterSupreme]

Hi Wigwam.

[@thetumblingwumble]

The only thing I’m skeptical about is the arms of the banjaw

[@commenterbob9601]

yeah

[@TPpro1]

If he puts the arms down that would make the bottom of platy bigger

[@TomwalkerStar27]

Remember some bone monsters rebuild them selves with a bit of extra bones

[@dark_lilac8305]

They could have fell off

[@sebastiandziekanowski2383]

Because they're other monser fingers like mamoth or something they are made out of multiple monsters bones

[@candymeekmacomber9454]

Maybe evolution over time ended up in a few ways 1: Pladdie started decaying but evolving to the point where its pipes became legs and it eventually grew arms 2: Banjaw evolved into pladdie giving it skin, while making its eye sockets slightly bigger, then turning the banjo ligament into a flexible air sack, as well as turning its legs into pipes and maybe the arms got turned into another feature of the skeletal structure over time.

[@professorclinkyclanks29]

What about is clackula clamble? They both have the same hunchback neck, no mouth and their names both start with "cla"

[@commenterbob9601]

that can work, and they both take up only one slot of space when you place them.

[@theboys5031]

But clackula has a head clambe doesn’t have enough room for the skull

[@farmerchuck7294]

@@theboys5031 I think a clackula head could squeeze inside a cymbal.

[@commenterbob9601]

@@theboys5031 true

[@theboys5031]

@@farmerchuck7294 so you’re going to crunch clackulas skull 💀 that’s harsh

[@CloudboyFantastic7129]

And we’re back to theories! Noice! This is so detailed!

[@Agelessmaltose]

1:40 Actually, it is stated in Banjaw's description; "Banjaw's principle tendon is 37 times stretchier than a Stritch Skin, 42 times tougher than a Diamond, and 100 times twangier than, well - anything!" Now while this could mean the tendon can be pulled a great deal without breaking, it could also mean that it is actually very flexible.

[@toxicgohanyt5785]

*4 billion years ago Banjaw was there *now Is that my ancestor?

[@spongee9676]

I'd like to see more videos about the anatomy of monsters like how does Noggin work or maybe even a wubbox

[@Creeptanium]

Aye, Monster anatomy would be really cool

[@sunshinethemaw]

@@Creeptanium I'd love to see your theory on how Noggin works

[@Mini-se6cx]

Noggin; a rock with hands and feet and eyes Wubbox: it’s a robot what else do you want

[@CloutmasterPhluphyy]

@@Mini-se6cx trueee

[@axolotlyt3241]

It became true

[@caimanthechimera679]

If you're looking for more ideas for Monster anatomy videos, maybe you could explain why the Werdos developed their unique traits such as the horns, Tawkerr's spikes, Stoowarb's third eye, etc.

[@polkaamaniac]

Stoowarb's 3rd eye is for his forehead. If you remove it, his forehead is definitely interesting.

[@EggdogGuy]

"But, hey! Thats just a theory! A game theory!"

[@arackulelefanmsm6388]

1:48 I'm so curious right now

[@Cqmxl]

Everyone:All about bones Doctors:TRIGGERED

[@ladykoiwolfe]

I can easily see them being part of the same family, just not the same monster. You did do a good job in your comparisons and very nerly convinced me that there might be a possibility. But yeah, I'm not convinced either.

[@Mr.-the-Mr.-Mr.]

Awww! This doesn’t end with a specific answer? Well, I guess, like you mentioned, anything is possible.

[@mattiaagosti7837]

I think that banjaw is actually a fusion of various faerie island monsters, maybe some kind of missing link between them: first off, as you stated, it looks a lot like pladdie. But I noticed there are a lot of similarities with other faeries: the eyes look like a broken floot-fly mask, the arms look a lot like bridg-it's and the feet look like cantorell's beard/tendril things. What do you think about it?

[@arvincastillo158]

this is kind of convergent evolution, where two unrelated species coincidentally evolving into looking similar to each other

[@Bite_Frost]

Here’s the thing about the whole bone tendon thing as you can see on the monsters model it looks more dried up meaning that I can infer that it is for sure a dried up air sack which would be needed so I think personally it’s just a very hardened and dried out air sack so just saying I think it’s a yes

[@Scott...]

An obscure piece of MSM mythos might deprove this. In the game Pixel Dodgers (a game co-made by BBB, in which Mammott makes a cameo) it is suggested that Monsters can die, and when they do they convert back into their respective eggs.

[@squariumstudios2677]

Your videos are great! Especially the Island Wubboxes, you inspired me draw. I'll try creating cartoon msm monsters. Thank you

[@aneevang9386]

The “sinew” was soft and moist,now the sinew is hard and dry because it was left in the sun to decay and still having fire Am I right? Edit:and their eyes shrunk/dried

[@Eternal_Ten]

The pipes could actually be shells like a hermit crab. Since bones are hollow, banjaw evolved and adapted to a new form, after decaying. Also you see the little scar marks in the bottom and top of the "string" of banjaw? it also might be shell because when you see banjaw open its mouth, some pink flesh extends to the top, like lungs!

[@awesomesaurus-e6y]

Creeptanium states that Pladdie evolved into Banjaw. However, maybe Banjaw is an extinct ancestor of Pladdie that evolved into Pladdie. Not only that, but Banja is a fossilized specimen of the ancestor. Also, if this is true, Pladdie has changed significantly from its ancestor. For one, Pladdie can squish its head down. Also, its legs evolved into pipes. These are physical changes. Element-wise, as he states in the video, the Faerie element harmlessly changes into Bone. For my theory, this is going to be vice versa, with Bone changing into Faerie. The fire element stays the same, and Banjaw's Water element freezes into the Cold element, which is also stated in the video. As for Earth, it is possible that, since he stated the Faerie and Earth elements fused into bone. However, I believe that Bone separated into Earth and Faerie. It is stated in the video that Pladdie uses an air sac to produce its sound. I believe that Banjaw traded its tendon for an air sac by removing the tendon and separating its eyes from the rest of its skeleton. Or, since Creeptanium stated that Pladdie's air sac could have dried up and become its tendon, maybe Banjaw's tendon moistened and expanded like a sponge to form an air sac. However, this is not plausible at all, since air sacs are hollow. Not only that, but Pladdie's pipes are actually bones that fused the joints together to become one solid bone. Furthermore, they became tubes to produce sound. The same thing happened to Banjaw's arms, which became more pipes.

[@marissatucker3174]

I respect your hard work!

[@FacelessCB0RGG]

Msm theorie:Earth island is just plant island but burned you can see resembles and there's grass vines or lines on random Locations

[@YesNo-eh2jm]

I think banjaw is the skeleton of a creature related to plattie. Just like how two primates like monkey and gorilla are clearly different, just with some key similarities

[@TGD869]

Yup yup yup yupupupuupupupupupy

[@Banjawmsm]

nope im my own body

[@Swoogitstew]

They could be related in some way, similar to how sooza, pom pom, and hoola are related, some sort of family

[@creebotthegreat4159]

As you stated, Banjaw has a tendon that is rigid. It would make sense that upon turning into bone, what was a flexible tendon allowing Pladdie to compress became a stiff bony tendon. As for the eyes, Eyeballs could've dried out after turning and appear way too small compared to the orbits. Also, keep in mind some bone monsters rebuild themselves using other bones they find, which could explain the arms, and maybe the skull too.

[@Cytorb]

honestly, i think that the eye shrunk/deflated thats why it didnt fit the skull in banjaw it makes sense, since eyes are mostly fluid. for the legs i think those are just supporting beams for the horns? idk what to call it or the bone could be hollow and there was a hole at the end of it. we never really see the end of banjaws legs so its still possible

[@rubyvergouwen]

Finally someone else who disagrees with the theory

[@themobilelord]

Banjaw COULD have been pladdies skeleton at one point if banjaw left pladdies body (i have no idea how that happened),it makes this theory possible,because they both exist and without any bones,pladdie can make music. So basically, if banjaw left pladdies body somehow,then this theory is at least a little close to being true

[@spongewithagun3790]

Creepantium has a point tho

[@cattethebest]

@@spongewithagun3790 Spongebob with a gun what

[@Teeter-Scups]

I also dissagree

[@neo_brandt]

I think it’s cause the arms on banjaw

[@beastteacher4162]

i have a couple theories on the past of bone island that may give clues on the bone elementals. in the bone island trailer, we see stogg entering bone island through a tunnel in fire haven, if fire haven had sunk under the ocean after the presumed extinction of the fire elementals, bone island may have flooded several times in history (thus the puddles of water, tropical plants, fishy skulls and sharks) i believe that bone island was once open to the open sunlight and was a thriving coral reef that got encased by volcanic activity, the bones of the previous residents now relics of the island's former glory. i believe a previously aquatic critter is the building block of what a bone island monster is, a Frankenstein of mismatched bones and cartilage controlled by these critters as a way of defence and as tools, this can explain the strangely out of place multi coloured legs of clackula and the half buried body of uuduk, they are bone shells around some kind of hyper-intelegent composite-amorphous organism.

[@dgparel897]

Maybe Hollowed Pladdie just got and found some extra Bones and stick on him to pluck

[@pedroh.jota.p]

They’re canonically rivals,according to the magical nexus teaser

[@johnmack7808]

3:46 wtf 😳

[@Inkbower]

The pladdies insides are terrifying

[@brac0fam79]

Traumatized ;-;

[@spencerthegarfieldfanboy]

The muscles are what freaks me out

[@FluffyAbomination]

Can you make some msm shorts? Like maybe wubbox finding a taco or something

[@Mike-mf3ed]

I’d say it is either evolution or bringing bones to life. The jaw could belong to pladie while the rest of the bones could be from other monsters from the same island, or distant ones… essentially a Frankenstein of bones.

[@swolebox7675]

What if the arms of Banjaw was a muscle/tendon which was originally purposed to push up pladdies skin into that blob shape when the head goes down? Or rather, to pull it (the head) down entirely? Said muscle/tendon could have hardened and dried over time to become more ‘bone-like’

[@ronindeleon5219]

The first thing I thought when I got pladdie on fairy is “wait..that really looks like banjaw” and I’m not surprised I’m not the only one who thinks they are the same thing

[@Orgnang]

these videos even if old are so interesting and fun to watch

[@TravMMBandstuff]

Banjaw: yes I’m pladdie Loodvigg: I exist to

[@nathoghazi5026]

clackula + pladdie = POWERFUL BANJAW

[@Autism_Artistry]

But what does powerful banjaw look like

[@nathoghazi5026]

@@Autism_Artistry It’s Banjaw with skin and shedding the Pladdie skin

[@mrbamberyt8158]

Eyyy nathan wassup

[@nathoghazi5026]

@@mrbamberyt8158 Hi, Earthly!

[@Hello-pv1xw]

Fairy, fire, cold, and earth. Yeah, cold... sure.

[@minecraftmadison462]

Legs can be present in the base the plungers could decay the arms were attached so banjaw can play it’s song and it put on a skull so it’s eyes won’t fall off

[@willowgurl9820]

banjaw also has teeth all around it but pladdie has only a few teeth. also you showed us the skeleton of him and we saw a few feet that looked just like banjaw's and as you said how would the pipes become banjaw's feet well what if his pipes fell off and let the rest of his skin peel off becoming banjaw of course there's also the arms there is no possible way he could have had those to start with but in the bone island trailer we see stogg fall into a pile of bones and there has to be a way for them to get to bone island and back to the bone piles so armless banjaw might have moved over there picked up enough bones to make arms and put them on and we know pladdie's pipes had a few sticky substances in them because normal pipes cannot create that sound there must've been something making that sound so he can basically glue the bones on making arms then adjust to the arms making him play new music.

[@Hi_Hour]

Well, Pladdie’s fairy element might allow it to alter its appearance and it’s bone/body strength, as fairies are related to all types of magic. Banjaw’s rare form also shows patches of red flesh. This might be part of the Pladdie’s plaid pattern, but not likely.

[@hulick6910]

I remember watching your old videos, you changed at lot since then!

[@Kumquat9701]

2:55 HippityHop is Clackula confirmed

[@RYANTHECRITE2023]

Trust me this is an good idea for a new video

[@u_epho3075]

The whole body of Banjaw has a different color than it’s neck, so is it possible that when Pladdie dies and his neck is replaced with a fake/real bone? *So here is my theory:* Pladdie had a great time but then Pladdie died of old age and went into a skeleton. The bone people like Crackula made Pladdie horn into legs and made 2 legs into 2 hands to pull Banjaw’s (Pladdie’s) neck. They made a fake bone or a real bone on bone island and made a neck bone out of it. I mostly think it’s a fake bone for the neck because how can it bend and make music? *Anyway that’s my Pladdie to Banjaw theory but what if Banjaw turned into Pladdie?* *Banjaw to Pladdie Theory:* This wouldn’t be possible because Fairie Island was in December 11, 2019 and Bone island was in April, 2020 however let’s get into this. One day Pladdie died and had to be skeleton in bone island and sing in that island. One day a fairy saw Banjaw (skeleton of Pladdie) and went to Fairy Island to call the other fairies to help Banjaw turn into Pladdie (his normal self). So they brought Banjaw there and healed Banjaw into Pladdie again. Yes that’s probably why it’s named Fairie island. And he had a great day that day. *Bona-petite must be mad* Don’t be angry in chat because this is my theory, I want to hear yours.

[@michaeldart9980]

Plaidboy is bangy if you say no I will rick roll u

[@RYANTHECRITE2023]

So there's something I've been wondering about reedling for a really long time now

[@ethezwolf1018]

i used to think that drains were little mouths on the sidewalk that was always thirsty so i went out everyday and fed it my coca cola now i realize why i got in trouble XD

[@красильниковпалловичмаксим]

Пр

[@quackstar8993]

LOL

[@IornFoxYT]

Rip

[@cnotesoto]

Bright Side + My Singing Monsters = Creeptanium

[@notjack.k]

Wait banjaws legs look like separate pieces so maybe his leg were tubes and just got clogged up!

[@wetfish_]

I have a solution to make it work, it's a bit of a stretch but it works. So it's eyes could have shrunk when it decayed? Maybe pladdy's eyes were on the skull rather that inside it. This may sound a bit farfetched, but these are weird creatures from another world so eyes might work differently . You explained the tendon so I'll go with that. Banjaw's legs could have been holding up the tubes rather than being the hollow tubes. This makes it at least possible for it to work with the anatomy and sound. Finally, the arms could have been sort of like ribs to compress the air sack in pladdie, they are connected to the mouth part so pladdie could still compress.

[@DylanTheGreatestOfAllTime]

We need a full version of the intro

[@Tonk-dp3ic]

Thing I would add The eye neck is for the eyes are probably for a mount so they won’t fall out 2 the trumpet horn things are skin like and they went away plus the jaws are like ours like our lips are small and wrap a smaller area than our jaws

[@yansalles9600]

1. The tendon is a ligament 2. The long arms of Banjaw is resting inside Pladdie 3. The horns of Pladdie decayed into Banjaw’s legs.

[@EverblueOfficial]

Wrong

[@Greensand-tj3pk]

@@EverblueOfficialits plausible

[@innocentarsonist7008]

It could be that they ARE related, maybe banjaw is an extinct cousin of pladdie?

[@michaeldart9980]

I think Bangaw is the bones 🦴 of a removed monster from the fairy island or yes it could just be a dead Pladdie who came to the bone 🍖 island

[@Dredge_Hog]

Maybe the pladdie eye’s go over the skull, and the appendages are used to portect the mouth

[@theconfusedkulu-ya-ku7587]

They're probably closed related species

[@Daman6973]

The fact they referenced this theory in the trailer for magical nexus is wild lol

[@parvitz]

Wiblix Clones in a nutshell: First: Hey wait a minute i think i'm holding it upside down Second: * desperately trying not to scream * Third: f u r c o r n :)

[@talonzilla]

An interesting concept for a rare or epic of the 2 monsters is a more banjaw like pladdie, or a more pladdie like banjaw

[@Zesty_Mirror-b8c]

Wubbox: bruh Me: *reaches level 20*

[@scottnorris1993]

this guy is like if msm characters were real species and hes actually inspecting things about them

[@gregfromggg]

lets talk about how ghast became xyster-

[@my_singing_gheegur7370]

Xyster is like the same species like rare or epic ghazt

[@MartineHollander]

Maybe the skeleton of a pladdie is a seperate creature in its own rite, the skeleton soft and mushy. In Pladdies torso is the undeveloped, soft tendon, rolled up into a vaguely bulbous shape with the head inside. the legs of Banjaw are stronger and are inside of the 'pipes' of the Pladdie, supporting them. And the arms are also inside the conical structure inside Pladdie. A pladdie eventually loses its ability to compress, due to the parasitic skeleton growing within. The tendon of Banjaw will stretch and stretch, until it inevitably rips through the poor Pladdie's neck, after which it will begin its migration to bone island, dragging the decaying corpse with it to sustain itself when nessescary. underline nesseSCARY, this is gruesome, yet beautiful in a grotesque way. Peace.

[@spencerthegarfieldfanboy]

0:55 just gonna keep playing this sound for my mum because she hates that word

[@lillyjeankulian5295]

What word? Flesh?

[@spencerthegarfieldfanboy]

@@lillyjeankulian5295 yep

[@Thedjraymansvoid]

@@spencerthegarfieldfanboy Let me guess she thinks That is "ViOlEnT" because of the word "Flesh".

[@spencerthegarfieldfanboy]

@@Thedjraymansvoid no she just hates the word

[@potatofries1657]

Maybe once monsters die they magically metamorphizes??? Since I mean I do have a gut feeling that the devs just decided to base some designs off of some monsters lol. Maybe evolution, like they both evolved from a common ancestor species. Or maybe it is the same with G'Joob and G'Day- A different version in a different timeline??-

[@kennethfigueroa3357]

Trying to make a theory with scientific proof in a video game is like bringing a water gun to a war

[@stancharles856]

Ron has been tampered for you 🙏

[@DithyrambianHymn]

MSM default names E3 idea: Loodvigg and rare theremind

[@GhaztVR]

I think it is pladdie, if we look at bellow fish, his arms extend and retract, pladdie retracts too, so after years is pulling and pushing, it became hard.

[@brodygaming4258]

Do Potbelly and cantorell.some similarities can be found.they have a big belly and they have two heads and both end with “ll”

[@luistheteleporter951]

I have a theory on the tendon or whatever people call it. Its like a shark mouths. They seem to move all the time, but when they die, the jaw is open all the time and you cant move it. Maybe that is the same with the pladdie and Banjaw

[@eddie58]

3:43 Random Among Us sound effect lol

[@dootaloo6365]

I'd like to suggest a counter theory to this! banjaw is the missing link toward pladdie, banjaw evolved with skin and the appendages turned into the pipes and eventually it lost the need for the tendon, creating the new monster, this or banjaw is related to pladdie but branched off during evolution

[@MintusLizus]

Oh Wait I Think Pladdie's Have, Organ?

[@JasmineFlowery]

PLADDIE IS A BONE MONSTER

[@MintusLizus]

@@JasmineFlowery Oh Ok

[@shaldurprime7154]

Ugh the first time I heard of this debate, it was in a video with bandjaw texture modded onto pladdie

[@ShinamonRBX]

More proof in the magical nexus trailer, when they death stared eachother

[@Tankncannon_scratch]

I have a defence to the skull thing: the eyes shrank to show a skeletal structure because of the eye size difference and yes, pladdie eye structure would be dumb then

[@lancechristophermambo2285]

Pladdie got some of the neck thingies cause look at it its so different from the other part of bandjaw

[@unknown3238]

and the fact that bone island comes after faerie island makes this theory better

[@grassrambuw9912]

The neck think on banjaw is kinda stretchy so it can go down and the banjaw doesn’t make it go downonly plucks it and the bone element makes it harder so when it plucks it goes back to normal

[@itzblitz6584]

Now I don't necessarily think pladdie is banjaw but it could be a possibility but here is a thing that could be supporting cloudy being banjaw in banJaws bio it says his tendon is very stretchy but in your video you said it is hard and it cannot stretch and go up and down but in the body according to MSM it can stretch so you should probably make an update video about that

[@angelouobrero1593]

You should also talk about Scups And Bowgart too?

[@tommygun3586]

I know this is off-topic but you have a very club penguin like art style

[@fannimationsYT]

Now wait a minute! Banjaw can open its jaw,so what I'd pladdie had it's teeth open with it's lips closed,it's possible to do,try it. My theory is the it closes its jaw to compress it's self,that sorta explains it,maybe the pressure of the pladdie forces it down? Maybe pladdie is heavier than it seems? Idk,also maybe the arms grew due to the farie and rock mixing? Edit: or maybe it's just rare pladdies skeleton,like you said at the end of the video

[@sparkyentertainmentstudios2380]

I mean banjaw could have been a monster related to the monster one that could have looked like similar to him but evolved to move more and to get a more sturdy neck so my theory is that it could make a more volcal type of music then instrumental so the body could have look like him but at the end like you side they are different monsters or where at lest in the same family

[@geraldgodoy7600]

For the arms I think that they are inside pladdie and help it compress into its lower form thingy, and when you think about it that actually makes so much sense

[@YourGlobalGamer]

Pladdie is like a blobfish it has no bones

[@adambohamad683]

i like how he puts high level science into a game where a green furry pear with legs thanks you for spending money

[@deedgemaster]

This is actual quite an interesting approach. I do enjoy it if this will become a sort of msm conspiracy theories Afrocentrism or debunk like what meteorz does for is it kirby canon series.