Is BIG Really Better? | Light wind kitesurf test | Naish hydrofoils, Duotone Juice 2020 & Core Xlite

We made a light wind test with the assumption that bigger is better. But is that true? We found out the hard way. For you kiters off course. We tested the Duotone Juice 2020, The 2020 big wing hydrofoils from Naish. And Jens brought his Core kiteboarding Xlite 11m. We are in for a surprise but view the video and check it out. Any questions or comments! Please add them down bellow. All the best in these strange times. Stay safe & healthy!
Enjoy!
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[@gBayCanada]

Don't worry, we still love watching you!

[@collegepros]

The funny guy is back! Good team guys!

[@irf888]

You guys are the money again! Very honest crew. Thanks.

[@daversj]

Diminishing returns with large kites in light wind. New one strut kites seem to be the sweet spot for the light wind. They will sit over your head and not Hindenburg on you. I like the way they turn better than foil kites as well.

[@collegepros]

Would love to see a side by side comparison with the 2020 Duotone EVO and the new 2020 North Reach! Both are in the same category. Please 🙏.

[@Kitefinder]

thats a good one

[@Boristhecoach93]

Hope to see 2020 Evo review

[@windsurfsnow]

Where in the heck have you guys been. Two weeks at home we missed you both

[@John_GGG]

I don't kite and I am trying to work, but you guys are having so much fun, I'm still watching your videos. Great job!

[@windjunky]

great video mates, thanks

[@dovereesserico7861]

Oh my god, this guy is hilarious, he killed me!! 😂😂

[@paulweninger8018]

Come on, you can see the wind picked up when he tried the 11 XD. You can even hear it cleary because the microphone starts picking up the wind noise.

[@Kitefinder]

During our session it went from 4 to 9 knots check windfinder 9 April between 13.00 and 17.00 hour. But the conclusion we experienced is 15m Tube kite or a strong 11m doesn't make the difference.

[@paulweninger8018]

@@Kitefinder yeah i see no worries. I also like small kites in light wind.

[@davidhollin3469]

North Reach vs core nexus?

[@archiekras6668]

A foil kite might have been better in this situation! But impressed with the xlite too

[@Kitefinder]

Yes, a 18m or 15m foil kite would do the trick

[@deadmanic]

Could you tell me why did you put the front strap in that way? Is it better when you have a lot of lift?... isn't it very forced for the ankles?

[@Kitefinder]

Hi Javier, this way you just have a bit foot position orientation and extra luxury while starting for beginners. Some tried it a day before

[@AKJammer1]

It gives you the best of both worlds. Something to grab your toes onto for start, but completely out of the way for moving your feet around the board.

[@shreddagorge]

I've never heard battens called "twigs", but keep in mind certain kite designers come from the windsurfing world.

[@georgewhtelse3516]

Hi, what about mono/Juice ? Which one is better for light wind foil ?

[@Kitefinder]

good question, probably the juice has more high end performances. For sure above 10 knots

[@leonvanbergen4077]

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[@clementfouet2888]

I'm really surprised of the conclusion, I was thinking of buying a big one strut kite but maybe it's better to buy a new "classic" kite that fly in light winf, someone know if there is a difference between the brand and years (I like eleveight) ?

[@Kitefinder]

Hi Clement, don't start to think brands. Think kite characteristic. You need a smaller kite that has good stability & strong (a bit explosive) power to get you on the board in light winds. The heavier you are the more important that explosive power.

[@Cheoz0r86]

1st?

[@Kitefinder]

Congratz \"/

[@collegepros]

Please do a test of the new Ocean Rodeo Aluula Flite. Thanks!

[@Kitefinder]

Trying to get our hands on an Aluula kite, story continues.

[@dachopper1]

funny as, I think you can hear and see the wind has picked up throughout the review :)

[@daarum86]

I drive allmost everytime with the 11m2 chrono and the moses race setup... i need about 5knots. With the 15m r1s you can go 1kn earlyer and you can jump higher, but to have fun you need with both setups 10kn 😀 To see some kitevideos on frozzen water watch my channel ✌️😏

[@yanm4223]

Van Wilder It’s joke?

[@kniefi]

I would guess so - because I know of no Flysurfer kite which stays in the air at zenith in lower then 4 knots. Check my own video: Ground wind of around 2knt! kzbin.info/www/bejne/i5Wvd5uloJWAq9U I have 19m2 speed III - when it was new - I could get going in min 5knts. Check my channel for proof of almost riding in 3knt. wind on twintip board - not quite enough to keep planing - if I had had my hydrofoil back then it might have been ok. Basically in my kitebuggy I can drive as soon as the kite is able to stay in the air. Even if at zenith it falls back... Kiting below 4 or 5 knt. is mostly a wish or due to the wind gradient showing lower wind at geound level then at 20m high...

[@vp_free2154]

I have a Juice 15, I weigh 80 kg, what size board should I buy if I want to sail in winds from 8-15 knots? PS, I wouldn't want a light-wind board, but a Freeride board

[@canolando3499]

I tried a juice during a tt race? I felt the juice had no juice compared to my flysurfer boost 2- 13m. I have a slingshot foil h4. .... A big wing it foils in 5-6 speed on the low end. Top is still close to 20 knots.

[@pedrocilevicius1538]

Very cool video, in percentage how much do you think it improves with light wind, using lines with 27m than with 24m?

[@RafCenterMyself]

You guys should do a juice d lab review. I’m wondering how game changing that thing really is 😄 I’m wondering when I could go out on a twin tip with it.

[@johnclarke6542]

310inch it's not 2000mm it would be a big fish

[@MrPhoenix82]

so good to see you two back at it again ..love ur content ..stay are over there and keep making fun stuff for us !!

[@J3hudi]

thiseee warseeee hardeeee to watcheeee. plus no real information - think u can do better.

[@Kitefinder]

:) learning by doing

[@abdelrahmanfayed2836]

how did u make an inverted landing on 2:55????? i've been looking for this method for ages but couldn't find it !!!!!!!!!!!!

[@Kitefinder]

Hi Abdelrahman, pull with low winds on both steering lines.

[@thenbaplayer93]

Hi guys! Thanks for all the videos that you do! They’re always super duper helpful and funny at the same time! I have a question though, I have a 17m juice 2019 with a 24m click bar! Should I buy the 2m line extension when using the juice you think? On the duotone website they don’t say really anything about the click bar and the juice, they rather talk about the trust bar with the 27m lines.. What you think? Should I keep the 24 with the click bar or should I buy a 2m line extesion and go for 26m? Thanks a lot!

[@Kitefinder]

Hi, with the 15m Juice extensions really help. Don't know if the 17m is to heavy in this light 6/7 knots but for sure extensions are a good option.

[@mbkiteboarding]

I have a 9m xlite and 8 knots is enough for me to Foil, 75 kg

[@GeckoCkCkCk]

40 meter lines on the 11 would have been cool.

[@adamukasik5102]

Hey Guys, a little off topic, but since it is about the size and you are located in Netherlands - in 3 weeks (mid September) I'will be visiting some of you spots. Do I need to bring all my kites, or does this time of year has some more or less fixed wind speeds?

[@Kitefinder]

Hi Adam, bring all your kites. We can get all kind of conditions in September

[@adamukasik5102]

@@Kitefinder will do!

[@ericmnr]

I like the honest and humble opinion from this channel. The other channels they just do commercials to the brands.

[@Kitefinder]

Thanks

[@nicoduvivier1561]

My biggest kite to Foil is a 10 qm Bandit and I’m up already in 8 knts...and it’s a lot cheaper 🤫🤫

[@leons.kennedy4517]

Good video! And what you think about Big light wind board or foilboard better in light wind day

[@clouclouc]

Please try evo vs neo 2020. Nice contents otherwise, love your channel 💪👌. Also for foiling is the neo really better than the evo in term of drifting? Looking for something versatile..

[@collegepros]

“Empire” 😂😂😂

[@Badz_B34chst4r]

"He's still in quarantine..." Very sick burn!!! LOL

[@tomislavtrajkovski1036]

My experience with large tube kites is not so good, aren't they made for heavy people on windy days :) Today I was on Flysurfer Sonic2 / 18m with wind between +/- 5 and 9 knots with a 930cm2 front wing. I already find the 930cm2 front wing much slower than my 580cm2 wing, isn't using an even bigger wing not too boring ?

[@Kitefinder]

For racers probably yes. For free riders playing around bigger wings are a great option

[@bennettian]

Hi, I am a total beginner with foils. I have two kite 14m and 9m. My foil is 850 on a 65 cm mast, I am 82Kg. Witch kite should I use 9 or 14 ? and in witch wind condition ? Thanks

[@Kitefinder]

Hi Ian, depends a bit of the low end of your kites. But in general you can foil from 9 knots with the 9m and 24m lines

[@A-fl1ln]

Vielen Dank

[@ovaross]

Nice video. You have an interesting "extra wide" ftont-footstrap on that board, do you have information about it? Looks like a good solotion to work up to riding strapless? Couldn't find it at naish webpage, were did you get it?

[@Kitefinder]

Hi Oliver, a Dakine strap over the width of the board. Using the normal inserts

[@AKJammer1]

@@Kitefinder I have a Dakine strap as well as a Slingshot windsurf strap. Any strap that will let you expand out. I have that on all my boards now. Best of both worlds, something to keep the board on my feet for start, but then completely out of the way when riding.

[@Island606]

most enjoyable kite reviews on YT! :)

[@kredospl29]

Good one.

[@FinnLiii]

The big question is: do different colores make a weight difference ? xD sure if it’s just some grams. But this would be an interesting question to.

[@Kitefinder]

hmmm heavy black or light white?

[@NB-ph6cv]

Is anyone interested of giving away a foil XD

[@raulabraham6096]

Try the Airush Ultra 9m in 6 knots you will foil like a champ.

[@MrMarkiter]

you're so wrong, 12 mts is better, 14 mts is much better and 17 mts even much better. You never had flied an Ultra in very light wind.

[@PS-pd1uf]

First, thanks for the great contents ! Second, How does the big wing ride with more wind? And can you paddel it also into planingspeed

[@Kitefinder]

We didn't try paddling but on the Naish site they talk about multi function

[@yountune9799]

Big kites are stupid for light riders. In light wind it falls back (deeper) in the wind window and you gotta fight against it so much to go upwind. Surprised you guys didn't add foil kites into the mix. Foil kites having advantage of being more like a wing that starts pulling more as you get more apparent wind over it. (The pull due to apparent wind being more pronounced on foil kites.) Plus it's lighter and stays closer to the edge of the wind window in lighter winds.

[@Kitefinder]

Hi Youn, thanks for the feedback. We didn't had any foils with us. But yes foils have the best low-end

[@kniefi]

Flysurfer Sonic Race VMG in 21m2 - I believe nothing gets you going earlier^^ As soon as you can sense the slightest air movement on your skin you can try to get going - to start the kite - have a battery powered leafblower ready to pre-inflate! No joke - works like a charm! I used to own a H.Q. Neo in 14m - that thing pulled like a tractor even in 4knts...

[@orlandofanti]

Very nice video and testing, but the rider looks to have 60kg, I have much more, so not sure if can apply those lessons to my quiver!

[@tritonsyc]

Please show us the foot strap on the board, or is it a handle?

[@Kitefinder]

Was a Duotone foostrap, special attached for a beginner

[@gasgasjan]

Hehe wat een gastuh

[@gasgasjan]

Nice video keep it up and stay safe

[@geertwilders4954]

Jongens ga alsjeblieft Engels lessen volgen😂👍

[@Kitefinder]

Do we have a problem hanging on our trousers? 😁