Is Brompton in the exclusive club & Tubeless for Brompton?! / Reaction Video

This is a reaction video after I listened to the podcast with the Roadman cycling podcast. The "Roadmap" interviewed Brompton's CEO Will Butler-Adam. At the podcast, some good 45 minutes that I had spent. Will talked about the greener vision for the Brompton company; if the Brompton is in the exclusive club; the way Brompton see how we use the bike. He had also leaked (maybe) Brompton will make a tubeless-ready wheel as the next big update. The full podcast is highly recommended at the link here:
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[@Petrellionwheels]

What tyre pressure are you guys running on? Do you think Brompton is in the exclusive club?

[@goondu86]

Looking at Singapore, with the popularity of the clones, I think not. The only problem is that it's hard to do the commute/cycle (residents in Punggol as an example) mix here during peak hours.

[@kevindksugiarto]

95psi to be precise on kojak. But 90 on one. I'm not going to say yes that B is in that particular club, but I think at some point (the limited edition brompton) make itself exclusive.

[@cyberiansg]

88 psi

[@Petrellionwheels]

@@goondu86 shouldn't it be more exclusive then if there are a whole lot of the clone versions? I remember riding to work during the peak hours at the bus lane, it was either the bus or me. I am literally the fastest-moving thing on the road during the peak hours.

[@Petrellionwheels]

@@cyberiansg some lucky number bro

[@ChrisShawarma]

I have a Brompton and the frame actually split during a 215k single day tour I did from Berlin to Magdeburg. I wrote them a message with pictures, I also sent the piece of the frame that split (it was the larger one where the post and the pedals are attached). They sent me the piece of the frame for free. I thought that was very solid.

[@edumardel]

😮😮😮❤❤❤

[@Petrellionwheels]

Split?! I hope you are alright. Anyway, what do you mean by the splitting? as in the joins broke off or the tubing went left and right.

[@ChrisShawarma]

Maybe split isn't the right description, the frame cracked right along the main tube of the frame where the Brompton logo is. It was a long crack too and I had to finish the rest 30k on it so it got bigger and led to the crack splitting wider apart. The people at Brompton also replied saying that they had never heard of something like that happening, I was amazed myself since the frame seemed to be extremely solid. I fixed it after they sent me the replacement and it's as good as new and haven't had an issue with it since.

[@earlbee3196]

This is the best Brompton video in the whole world ever, .

[@mshepperd]

2022 Italy tour on 6HL, 1200km, Marathon tyres, 72psi/70psi, 75kg rider, 14kg luggage plus water. No punctures or mechanical problems.

[@WilliamPhillippe]

Always insightful and thought provoking content. Thank you. I run my tires at 100 PSI on me Brompton. The Continental Urban Contacts just roll. 😊

[@polipop1113]

I have more tirewall damage more than I have punctures on Marathons. Tried solid tires but too much rolling resistance. My final answer is Continental!

[@Petrellionwheels]

I guess I have watched too much "What's new on the next iPhone 15" video recently. lol. The Urban Contacts work well mate. However, I am still with my trusted Kojak. Anyway, appreciate your time at the video.

[@polipop1113]

I love these rumor news and theory bit that you are doing. A great addition for the channel's content. Love it.

[@platypushatstand]

65psi in my Schwalbe Marathons. As to whether Bromptons are exclusive? I’d say no. I heard of an American couple that bought their 6-yr old daughter a new M3L which cost $1200 USD, when their friends learnt of this they were aghast as the expense saying they’d only spend $200 USD on a child’s bike. Yet the couple said after a year the daughter out-grow the bike, so they be forced to needlessly spend another $200 USD. So using that ‘formula’ their friends would be spending $1200 USD in 6 years to buy 6 bikes, whereas after the initial spend on the Brompton unless anything wore out the only thing to change would be raising the seatpost to accommodate the child’s growth each year. So, IMO it’s only the narrowness of someone’s mind that limits them from buying a Brompton. I bought my H6R new in 2012 and I’ve just passed 10,000 miles in 11 years recreational riding on and offroad: gravel riding ain’t anything new, a lot of UK off-road is hardpacked gravel, perfect Brompton territory.

[@Petrellionwheels]

Great to hear about your experience. I am primarily on the Kojak and running them on the tarmac surface. When I am riding on smoother surface like in the places of Brisbane and Singapore, it does me wonder with tyre pressure from 85 and upwards. However, once I got to HK with the road surface being a little bit not as nice, a touch lower on the tyre pressure would be preferred. The Schwalbe Marathons generally have a stronger side wall support as well, I say they do hold up better than the Kojak do at the lower tyre pressure. My kids started riding on the Brompton when they had enough height at around age 10. The adjusted Seatpost certainly helped when they were smaller. I used to setup a shorter old M stem with the flat S handler bar for their easy riding also.

[@platypushatstand]

@@Petrellionwheels The shorter M stem and flat bars setup was used by WB-A for his kids Brommies.

[@BadByte]

Tubeless sounds like more work than it is worth I just want a reliable commuting bicycle that just works in any weather

[@sitoudien9816]

Exclusivity is the brand! Why do you think there are brompton only channels and clubs! They aren't solving the transportation crisis.

[@effyleven]

My tyres are pumped to 80 psi at the front, and 90 psi at the back. Thanks for asking. However I don't usually check them for about two or three weeks, by which time they have dropped to about 45 psi, and so I pump them up again.

[@kavanobrien6547]

Heard on the grapevine that Brompton is going to build a aluminium version, it’s least that way you could get a light version without it being so expensive as with the T- Line .

[@Petrellionwheels]

Thanks for spending time on the video. It does sound like the alloy version of the bike is coming. However, I am seriously not a big fan of very thick tubing on the Brompton, at least not just yet.

[@kavanobrien6547]

@@Petrellionwheels what makes you think it has to be thick tubes , if you look at road bikes the tubes are no thicker than the steal ones, if Brompton are brave enough to do it it will open up a market which nobody has looked at before, The T-line is in the right direction but the price is out of reach , so having the lightness with aluminium without the cost of the T-line it’s a no brainier.

[@robertpatrick3350]

I use Marathon + with tubes + Stans sealant as Commuting on a Brompton on a wet winters day in the UK and getting a rear puncture on the way to catch a train at 18:30 is the most soul destroying moment… without doubt it makes the ride sluggish …. So a robust tubeless solution would be a great step forward

[@bungee28]

Thanks for summarizing the long podcast 👍🏻

[@Petrellionwheels]

You are most welcome. The Roadman cycling podcast are usually with the road cycling stuff. I guess it’s worthwhile to share when they had a Brompton related stuff that pops up.

[@torinsall]

PLEASE add ANT+ to the electric model, so our cycling computers (such as Garmin Explore 2) can incorporate things like remaining battery charge info into its course calculations. If you still refuse to do that, AT LEAST allow your bluetooth to connect to not just your phone app, but also to cycling computers which have bluetooth. Finally, would you PLEASE INCREASE SAFETY by adding a handlebar mounted PAS level changer...you could easily add a BT device, since the battery system already has bluetooth. A yr ago you gave an email response saying you were not planning those features and that if I didn't like that then "perhaps Brompton isn't the right bike for you" ... and that included the safety-centric handlebar mounted PAS level changer. Hopefully the Brompton CEO will change attitude to embrace safety in the near future. Reaching over/under handlebars to change PAS level is UNSAFE when in traffic and impractical when on hills.

[@stevenbell9589]

hi i am buying my first ever bromptom a 2024 in Yuzu Lime C line 6 speed low handle bar it gets delivered on the 17th so only a couple of days to go only down side is that i should have got the rear bike rack with it but i will enjoy the bike a get the rack at a latter date so when looking at buying used or new i choes new and im doing it through the cycle to work sceme here in the uk thats where you can save money so for me i saved £478.40 its done on your taxes and i can do this every year not bad i think and i do think i will keep the bike for maybe the rest of my life

[@syedhusen]

I’m running on 100psi and will pump up each week. Singapore PCN (Park Connector Network) surfaces are generally smooth. Plus with my Redshift ShockStop Suspension Seatpost that I installed, it added to the riding experience’s that I had.

[@Petrellionwheels]

Thanks for watching the video bro. The riding condition in Singapore is unbeatable man. Higher tyre pressure works like a juicy there. I tried some suspension Seatpost before as well. They do add an extra comfort to the ride. I had them removed purely to keep the clean bike look.

[@trigs1441]

I run marathons on 100 psi and wouldn't like to go lower as like how the brom handles on that pressure.

[@Druidus98]

70PSI on the front and 75 at the back, but I’m on the very light side of weight with 55kg only. I personally don’t get the hype about this tubeless thing at all. Most of the experience I see in real world conditions are not overwhelming and the hassle with the liquid in case it fails is something I don’t want to deal with. Greetings from Europe

[@lmk928]

i do 70s on my tubolito inner tube, ever tried 80s', it blown like a balloon n blobbed

[@FunFreakeyy]

3:14 300£ for a second hand brommie? Wow, looks like I must make a trip to GB to save some money. In germany they cost at least 1000€. 😅

[@markotrieste]

90 to 100 PSI on Marathons. As for the price, I'm not rich enough to buy cheap things. looking forward for tubeless + disc brakes.

[@sactwnrob]

Hay were I get that hay? Or order one?

[@alangillanders2811]

100 psi on the marathon plus. 2016 black and silver 3 speed

[@thomask837]

Why would you go go tubeless on a brompton? Messy gels? No thanks. It’s not as if we are trying to save weight on a brommie

[@Petrellionwheels]

If it works, or work’s wonderfully. The only problem is it doesn’t work most of the time. Anyway, if it does happen, they better have a large inner volume rim/tyre system to cope with the “needed air”.

[@thomask837]

@@Petrellionwheels hey where are you located these days? Haven't seen you on our Brompton rides for a while now

[@finncarlbomholtsrensen1188]

As an owner of a 2019 SuperlightM6LXBrompton, now down to 9 kilo with mudguards, it is a horrible, hard rolling bike on the small wheels. Its only reason for existence is its extreme fold and being that compact during folded transport! Finn. Denmark

[@Petrellionwheels]

Finally, someone is sharing the same voice with me. I have a few Bromptons with me. The one that I could ride for all day is the full steel version. My super light version or that they call the P line now will never be the first bike that I wanted to pick up. Happy to have you here Finn.

[@FunFreakeyy]

​@@PetrellionwheelsThe steel version rides better than titanium? Interesting. Is it because it's sturdier? I thought the P-Line would be a solid upgrade over the C-Line.

[@kavanobrien6547]

Oh you also think about the aluminium maybe coming out.

[@goldenmath4091]

It wont be the big players that change everything, it will be small innovators, 3d printing will change alot The main design bis the frame, and not proprietary parts, everyday, with many rear hub options Fraction of the price of a T line

[@cyberiansg]

Tyre pressure 88psi

[@MsLori62]

90 psi