Is Business School Worth It? How MBA Programs Are Revamping in 2019 | WSJ

[@salmp7]

I really enjoy journalists who are aggressive during interviews. good job!

[@mdsameerthunder]

he is the most aggressive and dynamic journalist I have ever seen; he should be in FBI integrating criminals; haha keep it up

[@DenisioDB]

The guy's great! He's asking inconvenient questions without making people uncomfortable.

[@thisisntsergio1352]

@@mdsameerthunder I want him to interview Andrew Yang.

[@Kanal7Indonesia]

He should be on Vice

[@skfkfkd]

hahahaha me too he was so cheeky

[@danyellhenrique]

Gets an MBA, works for company owner who never finished high school.

[@igazii6258]

This is true read the story of oyo founder ritesh aggrawal he has hired couple of people from harvard

[@MrTimmy23]

This is actually not true at all. As Zenish was saying

[@danyellhenrique]

@Zenish Khumujam of course they do, but i said owners, not the people they hire to run their businesses

[@evropakhan1137]

You sound like the guy who took Steve Jobs job cause you thought you were better cause of your degree when he dropped out.

[@ludwigvonsowell5347]

kcelestinomaria what’s your excuse then.

[@Sjalabais]

Very good interviewer. To the point, honest, but not overly aggressive. Got the most out of his interviewees.

[@WillJackDo]

24k for an online course? How can you even say that with a straight face?!

[@Gamenetreviews]

I’m in a law degree online and it’s a similar price. I suppose we subsidize the school.

[@novael6582]

You will get free eduction in Norway. Even in PhD level

[@Gamenetreviews]

Nova El They have a giant supply of oil so they made a trust fund that gave every citizen like 200K. It’s the country equivalent of being born into a rich family.

[@INFJ_Terez]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@DanielHall212]

@@Gamenetreviews I guess dream do come true there lol

[@WeAreBikeScouts]

So, let me get this straight, I'm supposed to pay a ton of cash to learn about business from a business that can't keep its business relevant?

[@bornfree6067]

Spot on!

[@MsUmwolverine]

Beautiful

[@DevTheDudeRN]

THIS !!!!

[@davemichal899]

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[@elsaucelloron1922]

😅 😂 😅 😂 😅 👍👍👍👍

[@Ric419]

At least she was honest, "it's a business," which is all higher education is today. To make matters worse, it's only worth something if it's from a top tier school.

[@user-lu6yg3vk9z]

not so true there are plenty of people who graduated from ivy league schools who are struggling in life today.

[@nachannachle2706]

Top tier schools don't exist anymore. They have been debunked by the number of drop outs who have testified on how vapid and predatory these "institutions" are.

[@todoldtrafford]

It’s a racket now

[@RichardWalls]

It is a business. There's nothing wrong with that; they offer a product and service like any other business, and the goal is to provide value and while ensuring continuity and growth of the business. It's only a "bad thing" when they begin to overcharge while the product/service value declines. At which point, hopefully enough people decide to pursue other options and sends the signal to the university they need to change. This, in my opinion, is certainly the case w/ Ivy League schools. Overpriced.

[@lumiere2598]

@@nachannachle2706 can you link the articles/posts that talk about how they were debunked?

[@RFJersey]

An MBA is only as good as the school that it comes from.

[@projectz9776]

Absolutely. I dont find it a rational spending unless it's from a FT top20 global schools.

[@RFJersey]

Project Z That is exactly correct, that is where the major firms recruit.

[@baseball2662]

That can be said for any college degree, really

[@RFJersey]

Supreme Being Gender studies and other liberal arts degrees of that nature are not as dependent on school reputation.

[@benjamin7114]

Any academic achievement is only as good as the brain it goes into .

[@BlogofTheW3st]

Translation for the title of this video: “New generation questions the need for an MBA in order to become a corporate or governmental functionary”

[@panzer_TZ]

Blog of The W3st Honestly, I doubt any salary increase would be worth a $100,000 increase in student loan debt + interest. The monthly payment alone would suck up any extra spending money you gain for decades.

[@davemichal899]

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[@SolutionsSolved]

Why don't you cut your administration fees and lower your tuition and you will have more MBA applicants

[@Juzzyjuzzy]

Webetripin 4725 simple demand and supply stuff.

[@tryrshaughroad551]

Have you ever heard of a Veblen good? Higher education in the US is somewhat like that

[@lamzo-yi4ku]

They dont even need to do that, all colleges are subsidized and tax free.

[@faithlesshound5621]

In England, all public universities charge the maximum they are allowed, for fear of being thought cheap and second rate. For a lot of luxury goods, high prices make them more sought after and low prices are suspect.

[@davemichal899]

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[@MegaDanca1]

I’m officially a “customer” not a “student” anymore.

[@princereddy4887]

Yes Universities are no longer places of learning they are "Businesses"

[@supernerd7093]

get a degree in gender studies, art history or philosophy (to name a few basket weaving degrees ) and you are a victim of a rip off

[@francgride7526]

Yup, buying a product

[@shaharifmangaru9163]

yeah that hit me too

[@KJasonV]

The sooner you learn that, the closer you are to graduating

[@brucevann7129]

I'm a first generation college grad from a blue collar family. In a few weeks I expect to close on a great business. Had I not gotten an MBA from UVA, the idea of entrepreneurship through acquisition wouldn't have even crossed my mind and I wouldn't have the capital to invest. B-school was the best decision I made in my career.

[@rac3r5]

Was looking at MBA's last year. Even attended a few mock classrooms hosted by an MBA school. This is what I learnt. A lot of people get MBA'S when they are too young. Without experience, you're not able to easily apply concepts. An MBA exposes you to the corporate mindset way of thinking. If you work in a corporate environment, having exposure to higher level management achieves the same thing. Another thing promoted by MBA'S is networking. If you have an interest in a field, attending conferences and meetups help you achieve the same thing. If you want an education in business, get a business degree or diploma. There are lots of free online resources available. I know a few people who have MBA's and they're not working in a job that utilizes their education. When it comes down to it, it's not the degree, it's your drive and hustle that will advance you.

[@rvegas81]

Bingo-my master's degree program mostly only took folks who were 23-24 years old. We were way too young. Im glad I have more life experience now.

[@forever_golfer1981]

None of the Ivy League schools have online MBAs. There’s your answer.

[@08Aniyah]

But they DO have online business degrees.

[@forever_golfer1981]

Parker Boonies TV Who? Harvard and Yale don’t have online MBA programs. Neither Princeton, Columbia, Brown, Wharton, Cornell, or Dartmouth.

[@08Aniyah]

@@forever_golfer1981 True, because Harvard uses the case method approach in its class discussion, but they have an alternative at the moment to the MBA, which is just an online grad degree in management. And perhaps after demand increases, there will be an online Ivy League MBA. it's only a matter of time.

[@stopcheatingconsumers9779]

@@08Aniyah agree!

[@frankiey9943]

Yea because ivy schools are too prestigious. They accept so few students to their MBA program they expect them to be present cause of extremely rigorous amount of work

[@phoenix5054]

I enjoy my MBA classes. Is it worth it? Maybe only time will tell. I already make decent money as a Software Engineer, but formulating business strategies and seeing things from a different perspective are things I definitely enjoy.

[@ipponsuki]

You don't need a MBA for that.

[@eventusvantos2770]

@@ipponsuki but it helps you get a better job as a software engineer and will also help you to make a business.

[@eventusvantos2770]

@@ipponsuki also the connections.

[@phoenix5054]

@@ipponsuki Yeah. In the same way you don't need a Computer Engineering degree to code (but I do and don't regret it). Seriously, the hate education gets nowadays is just astounding.

[@ipponsuki]

@@phoenix5054 Do you know the difference between education and indoctrination? Which one are you paying for?

[@ericz7881]

This is a pointless question. An MBA from Harvard surely opens doors, an MBA from Phoenix University not much. I guess if you have to question whether it's worth it than it's most likely not. Think of it as buying a car, would you even consider buying a particular car if you have doubt in its safety.

[@MrBlinder514]

More like branding your CV stuff

[@ericz7881]

@@MrBlinder514 not really. If you think an MBA will help you land a better job then you will be shocked how little value it carries in the job market. A no name MBA is not worth pursuing period. If you pay attention, all the big name MBAs only recruit those already successful so I will let you make up your mind whether it's MBA adds value to the candidates or the opposite.

[@elvinlee7592]

@@ericz7881 agree. For a MBA a top ranked school is essential. The level of students are also different. There is self selection in the top tier schools.

[@aveekpaul5545]

@@ericz7881 Then what to do Sir? As in my case I am 27 years old with 5 years of no work experience since graduation and I want to pursue a career in logistics/Supply chain. Then what should be my course of action? Should I go for 2 years mba course or some training course of logistics?

[@ericz7881]

@@aveekpaul5545 Sorry I'm not in the position to give out career advice in an area(logistics) I know nothing about. If I have to say something, if you are admitted into an mba such as Harvard, Stanford, Wharton etc. then you are probably not lack of decent job offers already. If not, I don't think an mba will change anything.

[@jiukalita]

MBA from Harvard, Wharton, Stanford, MIT and UChicago is worth it. Others, not so much. Plain and simple.

[@km0146]

jpgk1927 and NYU stern

[@supahstar857]

Columbia, Yale, Dartmouth, duke,Cornell

[@kylesummers7478]

And you forget UPenn the top place for finance...

[@ultran84]

​@@kylesummers7478 Whose business school is called Wharton...

[@Juzzyjuzzy]

An MBA anywhere is worth it, if you actually have the passion and skill to excel.

[@catalinacurio]

Learning about forecasting and so forth was useful but nothing beats experience, ya gotta put theory into practice.

[@infernogamers168]

Is it the case of if you have the MBA it puts you potentially in such a position quicker?

[@xXZian6Xx]

Getting an MBA as opposed to an undergrad with no experience places you higher as a potential candidate in a company. Also, a good MBA course will provide international perspectives giving an added benefit in this business climate where everything is intertwined.

[@adarsh5647]

Yup

[@Леонардо-ж2з]

Starting your own business, owning and running it for a few years, looks way better than just simply having an mba on your resume when applying for a corporate business position.

[@agamerjourney9146]

learn that some biggest corporation are turning away college graduates. Instead looking for people with life experience in running a business.

[@shrisub881]

@@agamerjourney9146 show me some data

[@boomingtonburt8735]

Not true at all, corporate experience is much more valuable.. Take it from an entrepreneur

[@Леонардо-ж2з]

@@boomingtonburt8735 MBA

[@buddylovely]

MBAs teach you how to smile as you kill.

[@HPTeguh]

This is also true lol

[@JackIsNotInTheBox]

When you spend a week getting ready for a business photo, it better.

[@jacob9673]

Something that people who can smile, and people who kill, can learn on their own.

[@davemichal899]

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[@andrewg4361]

Went to a community college and university that offered online and lecture type courses. I decided to sign up for all my classes online instead of lecture since I learn better at my own pace. What I'm explaining is that just because I was online for 3 semesters didn't mean campus was prohibited to visit. I could show up to campus and still make connections with groups and guest leaders any day. Online courses are more flexible to people working full time and trying to earn an education.

[@akjain1997]

Applications are down, admissions ain't.

[@numanhussain6080]

Well ,duh. The school is not going to say no to $50,000 is it?

[@rickimcfarland2269]

Not true. M7 schools are pulling from their waitlist.

[@SenKyrstenSinema]

Graduate school enrollment has actually been pretty stagnant over the past 9 years and undergraduate enrollment has been decreasing during the same period.

[@user-lu6yg3vk9z]

@@SenKyrstenSinema the reason enrollment is going down is because people are realizing college is a scam. there is a shitload people with degrees working in jobs that dont require degrees. youtube peter schiff college.

[@johnvalerian8440]

It’s a ‘it depends ‘ question. A MBA from Stanford or prestigious means something, a MBA from some online university is probably bs.

[@RichardWalls]

There are alot of reputable universities offering their MBA online (in addition to on-campus). ASU, UNC, Indiana, Carnegie Mellon, etc. There are though alot of bunk online programs.

[@faithlesshound5621]

Why? Their students can read the same books and journals. At postgraduate level, lectures are not so important a way to learn. They can interact more easily on-line than in a common room or refectory.

[@sailaway258]

The best thing you can get is connections

[@lokeyfunny]

You can make connections sitting in a WeWork also :D. It's expensive, but not MBA expensive.

[@ahmedaly116]

What if I have social anxiety?

[@jryde421]

@@ahmedaly116 then its not for you

[@ahmedaly116]

@@jryde421 LOL!

[@projectz9776]

Get them in Linkedin

[@lllllllllarose]

The students’ answers are so shallow. I’m now even more sure that they don’t know what they’re doing.

[@Imagine-j5g]

Kanjani 8 lol

[@raybod1775]

They're too young to know what they're doing.

[@miaoli3991]

MBA is just a lie making people believe they will be rich through this kind of training, but in fact, being rich depends on what kind of resources you have in your hands rather than a piece of paper.

[@Montfortracing]

@@raybod1775 too young?! C'mon man. By the time you're in college you should already have a very good idea what you want to do. Unfortunately many in college these days don't

[@peekstar]

Agreed sounds like they are trying to convince themselves

[@sloanbanks9531]

Depends on the institution which grants said MBA. MBAs from top business schools are certainly worth the money. I have a MBA and it has paid for itself 3 times over. I graduated in 2013. Right out of b school I was making over $100k base. That didn't include bonus of 15%. I had the MBA and about 6 months experience from an internship when hired. Now 7 years later - well, let's just say I'm in my 30s and I own a townhouse in Manhattan on the UES. Was it worth it for me? Yes.

[@vivekt.2038]

So it is necessary to Get experience before Doing MBA ? Do u have Some Work Experience before Joining MBA ?

[@DavidAning]

Wow. That's awesome! What school did you go to for your MBA and what did you specialize in?

[@strauss7151]

I dropped out of a top-30 MBA program because I felt it was just repackaged common sense and a huge waste of my time. I now run my own business and make high six-figures. Never felt that I was missing anything that I couldn't learn on my own from the internet.

[@p.seng1819]

Funny because I've been into finance and business for about a year and have been studying it on my own-- no I haven't started a business or anything but so far in my journey in learning, I've found that every free university course or book recycles the same concepts and ideas from other each other. So a part of me doesn't expect an MBA course to be any different if I can redo the courses I've done and get certificates on them which could eventually be equivalent to having a MBA degree. Mind you I just graduated highschool and supposed to have a career in mind but I figured that MBA was not my path when I know or can get everything I want to know off the internet!

[@juice8431]

if youre starting a business experience is more important than anything else. If youre an employee, thats a whole other story..

[@alexandra4real360]

I wonder how the future of MBAs will change after the covid pandemic? A lot of people do the MBAs because of the networking possibilities. That’s hard to do when all the courses are online.

[@thebuzzinc2757]

You would think MBA’s are worthless, but at the same time when you go on a lot of these applications they specifically state “master’s required”or “masters preferred”

[@117sesshomaru117]

State jobs and federal jobs

[@fernandomancilla6126]

2019 Online school why would we do that 2020 Only online now

[@thomasaquinas5262]

I'm a retired CPA with an MBA from the Bauer School(UHouston). We don't predict the future well, do we? So what will succeed is hard to do and an MBA isn't much use there. What it does do is shield you from the pitfalls and mistakes that lie ahead of us. As Ben Franklin said, a penny saved is a penny earned. My degree actually caused me to miss 1 or 2 great opportunities, but it also saved me thousands in avoiding poor investments, bad business ideas, and foolhardy partnership proposals. Overall, it was well worth the degree. But my degree was in 1984 and cost only $5,000 post-grad.

[@jctai100]

When I grow up I'm gonna play in the MBA!

[@ZALMANN]

Do us proud. Graduate as an mvp

[@brandonliao408]

Eyes on the debt! Keep your eyes on the debt! C'mon Johnny!

[@alfredoalcantar8691]

Ok lebum 😂

[@RichardWalls]

And lead the league in rebounds from piles of debt.

[@davemichal899]

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[@SchteeveFour]

Good interviewer! Asked the right questions while being respectful. Thanks!

[@xxyanlixx]

I thought this interviewer was condescending in the beginning but his burning questions are actually very enticing for the audience. Good job well done

[@MsUmwolverine]

Myself and a few of my classmates from university all became self made millionaires around 30 after working in corporate America. Do you know what we have in common? None of us wasted $200k and 2 years of not working to chase a fluffy MBA degree. Unfortunately a few of our friends did. And they went to Top 10 MBA programs. Now they're mired in interest bearing debt. When you are not clear about what you want and don't have a vision for yourself, it's much easier to get swindled by a school with a "big name".

[@playtimewithemihle2544]

How do you become self made millionaire

[@MsUmwolverine]

@@playtimewithemihle2544 many different ways 1. target school --> ibanking --> private equity --> vc 2. big tech (specifically FAANG) 3. early employee in start-up that has liquidity event 4. start investing in stock market super young and constantly crank base salary + bonuses to then immediately reinvest 5. rental properties But all of the above rely on you getting good grades, going to a top university, not taking on debt (i.e. lots of scholarships) and living frugally for a long time The bottom line is if you want to be a millionaire by or before 30, you have to avoid debt like the plague

[@taylormadisonmae]

@@MsUmwolverine What school did you attend & do you think it was worth it?

[@mostafasaleh7445]

Each one has a different vision

[@Mas3452001]

Yikes. It's a hard no. Better off putting the 50k + into a house. Also I've worked with many MBAs and they're no more proficient than people with BAs. If anything they're worse because many think they're better they really are due to their over confident dispositions.

[@Mas3452001]

@Richard Dixon you must have failed finance if you dont know how interest on that debt works

[@rickimcfarland2269]

@Richard Dixon Share with the class how it works.

[@Mas3452001]

@Richard Dixon oh geeze. Lot of ground to cover here which is a clear sign I'm deal with an idiot. For starters educated people dont make such bold assumptions. I have a fiance degree and also operate in dats science so I don't only know the numbers, I know how to build a code to process that data so it can prove you wrong for me. Next up I'm rather suprised they never taught you cognitive bias with all the money you poured in. Maybe they skipped that because it was in their interest to pad your ego so they could pick your pocket and have you feel good about it. Lastly your field is the one of the only ones where an MBA makes sense as you often need it to be a CPA which is in fact lucrative. The same is not true for social sciences, more general business specialities, or any other field that isnt commercially viable. Even in my field that is lucrative we dont feel a masters is worth as much as just getting more certifications/skills that will make you more competitive in the field. So you trying to correlate high salaries with MBAs likely doesn't adjust for two things. First it likely doesnt adjust per industry or by age. Of course there will be higher earners in some fields or are in more mature cohort that are at the peak of the lifetime earning potential which will inadvertently drive up the average. So go back and make a group of just 20-30 somethings then splice it by field then let me k know if everyone is on the gravy train.

[@maxmeier532]

@Richard Dixon you have 2 millions in investments and have enough lack of selfworth to argue in the youtube comment section like a 5 year old? Interesting!

[@JoseRodriguez-ti2ii]

MBA enhanced my previous exposure to real life business situations.

[@Sup_bro23]

It’s just access to the network and schools recruiting platform... other than that I hear they just travel and get wasted... fun but expensive

[@andrewca1659]

MBA = general degree with no real specialization (no, your specialization does not make you a specialist). Get a degree in a business skill: accounting, economics, or finance.

[@lindafukuyu5767]

I remember back then when I was in College in early 90s .. I paid none for my tuition .. got my BS and Master. Today? Kids are paying the astronomical tuition and jobs have been outsourced .. jobs are not paying good enough and kids owe so much debt. Not Worth it ! You can do Online Degree now especially after COVID-19. Everything changes. Screw that University with crazy tuition !

[@helindeelaka9362]

This journalist is on fire 🔥. What an interview!

[@ameyakasture]

It all boils down to the job prospects. Having an MBA degree is not a necessity for starting a business and if one seeks a job then MBA degree acts as an add-on degree to base qualification. For an employer, experience will always come first and MBA would then make a bigger impact. Book formula doesn't necessarily translates well in real life. When degrees are on sale, and most have it, experience makes all the difference. As the lady in the video rightly said "it's all business" and irrespective of what happens to those students, the University is doing good business and most will live below their means to cover the expenses!

[@janaeraquelmiller]

It’s not a necessity for starting a business, but it’s definitely a necessity for growing a business. This is coming from first-hand experience as a business owner, who’s business makes six figures.

[@jbi1839]

Earning a MBA degree doesn’t guarantee you a high paying job, but at least prove to everyone that you are not just someone.

[@lllllllllarose]

JBI JBI With that money I could’ve bought two apartments and rented them to these students. I don’t need to prove to anyone that I’m “someone”

[@Justin-ev8nn]

It certainly does yield a high probability if you got your mba at a top 10 b school.

[@Bekssss]

Everyone can suck my d... dont care about "everyone "

[@LittleMorrie]

I'm currently in a tier 2 MBA program. My company is picking up the tab... Otherwise, I wouldn't be doing it. However, I do believe it can be very beneficial for stem undergrads. Having a technical background with an MBA is gold. Unfortunately I majored in accounting.

[@Kanal7Indonesia]

Thank you for your insight.

[@Daniel-tv9tb]

The real value of the MBA is getting the interview for the Director+ level positions.

[@brandon2404]

Exactly, I went back after seeing the roles I wanted requiring an MBA to even be considered.

[@Kanal7Indonesia]

Amen!

[@jerrypie]

My cousin got her bachelor's degree in finance years ago and she often talks about wanting a master's degree because there are some jobs you can't apply for without a master's degree.

[@mikejohnson3713]

Jerry N. I got my bachelors and masters in criminal justice because of my masters degree i moved up rank faster then my peers and make 70k a year. Its masters degree is worth it only if it gives you the competitive edge.

[@cat-.-]

I go to Boston U, but I'm not a Questrom student. Took several courses there. One thing my questrom friends and me agree: business school courses are pointless and useless, you can learn all of it and then some by downloading the syllabus and reading the textbook. Networking is why you are there.

[@Garapetsa]

No. It's not worth it. Best to just take out a business loan and go for it on own. Learn as you go.

[@agamerjourney9146]

That’s why probably in decline more smarter people learn as they go.

[@saltymonke3682]

Business experience is expensive, sometimes it's far more expensive than business school.

[@agamerjourney9146]

Space Monkey Sometimes more expensive cause they put there own money on the line. Someone learning on the way may have failed running’s business multiple times. Yet was able learn from such failures to grow a better business.

[@saltymonke3682]

@@agamerjourney9146 every business person learns from mistakes. Including the one in the business school, the let it happen during the education. Business school can accelerate those learning curves, but it depends on each student. I run my own business during my business school until now. And I'm sure, I've put my knowledge into a good use. I can say for such a young company, We are far more organized than our peers. Thanks for those flowcharts in the business school curriculum.

[@nathanjin8536]

@@saltymonke3682 mind telling what the business is? :) by the way how much has the MBA really helped you in terms of running your business as opposed to common sense?

[@c.b.5535]

The cost is too high. I don't want to have to get a MBA through my job and be stuck there. I want to be able to just afford an MBA on my own.

[@vaibhavkapoor5793]

You all should read starting 30 pages of personal mba book It explains how teaching mba is just a business. Business can be learned by many other and better wayd

[@vl2663]

Ayyy I just bought that book a few days ago 😁

[@icyyadao1084]

MBA changes your way of thinking and the way you manage/strategize your business. It gives you a deeper understanding and appreciation of the corporate world in different areas - finance, hr, strategic operations, leadership, etc. It prepares you for the bigger role in the corporate. Having gotten an MBA degree myself, I can definitely say that it is worth it! 💥💥💥

[@shanewillbur1325]

So that an MBA can go and work for a company built by someone who didn’t finish high school? Do you not see the irony there? The issue here is that if you are in competition with a self starter who consumes business books like air, and hits the real world during the time you are “getting your MBA”, you are going to be at a disadvantage while people like him get the head-start. The public has seen too much of the latter, and not enough the MBA making the cut. The cost of it is causing alot of people to scratch their heads and rethink the college approach.

[@francisd7081]

It’s really quite simple. Over time more and more people are realizing that to be successful in business, for example to own your own successful startup wether it be in tech, fashion, food, etc, you really don’t need an MBA and in many instances it actually saddles you in tremendous debt and damages you. Combine that with the rising costs of high education and you see why the numbers are declining.

[@JamesB.1]

I would value a more specialised post grad higher, like a C.A, C.F.A, AICD

[@mr5timewcwchamp]

After seeing my undergrad loans, I refuse to pay for my masters. I'll look for fellowships/scholarships/or get an employer to pay for it. 78k a year is INSANE

[@mikejohnson3713]

I was very fortunate the because of me being in the National Guard the State waived my tution for both my bachelors and masters degree.

[@PrexXyx]

Jesus, 78K/year? Tell this to an average European, and they'll think you are joking. Higher education is free/almost free here. In fact, when I was doing my BSc, the state didn't just pay my tuition, I received scholarships that almost covered my living expenses. Not to mention the Erasmus+ programme, which allowed me to study a semester abroad (in a way better uni) for free. They even paid for about 2/3 of my expenses there.

[@LaMuffin-il7ei]

How do you get an employer to pay for it? Do only big companies do that?

[@trentsmith357]

For those actually interested in running a business and making some real money, steer far away from an MBA and go to school for whichever degree will make you the most money as soon as you graduate. Use that money to buy real estate, ETFs, or to create a product. That’s the only real way to retire by 30.

[@dustinharford8454]

Well said, I completely agree. The probability of those assets appreciating, despite what overhead or upfront costs there may be, is far greater than trying to retire at 30 by leveraging yourself to the hilt. STEM is well worth it for a degree, and it's much more feasible to pursue those business ventures 'on the side' when making $80K-$100K a year.

[@goateditz12358]

I feel MBAs are for people who want to be consultants or corporate people in big companies. (This is only worth it if you get an MBA from a top 20 school). Yeah, I agree, they are not for people who want to start a business.

[@leoncampa]

80% of what you learn in an MBA school, one can learn online. The rest can be earned through life experience. You would be better off finding something to sell and begin selling it. You will probably fail on your first tries, but each of those failures will make you learn more in the few months you get back up on your feet and tackle your next idea, than 6 years of business school.

[@thisistotallyfine]

Why complain about $50k when medical/dental students are $500k in debt?

[@thematthewlong]

Maybe because healthcare you dont have to compete for business as your consumer base has to no choice but to come to a doctor? Business students must compete from day one to get into top schools, top companies, then compete for growing their business to increase revenues and to remain profitable.. absolutley no garuntees..

[@futurekillerful]

greentealatte a lot more competitive in the business field... you don’t see unemployed doctors.. but you for sure see unemployed MBAs

[@kylesummers7478]

In addition to what everyone else said, many of the top mba programs are 200k+... So to pinpoint one school with lower tuition (by the way It was 50k for one year. It’s a two year program), is a bit unrealistic.

[@Bekssss]

Dont care about student debt scam in US, going overseas and do all job for peanuts same technology customer service even better

[@grod805]

Higher education is all about connections and luck. I always wanted to get a Masters or Professional degree but when I graduated with a BA and no job opportunities while people with my same degree were getting nice jobs because their recruiter liked them or they had some connection here or a family member there I realized it really wasn't worth the risk to go hundreds of thousands of dollars into debt and be considered over qualified for a $40K a year job but underqualified for a $80K a year job because you don't have work experience.

[@nycyaofan]

As someone who grew up with blue collar parents, the Ivy League MBA taught me how corporate America works and how to talk the talk walk the walk, and how to sort of fit in, i sound smarter, I can BS my way through a hard question, but in gaining real skills that improve the world, it’s a waste of time. It’s good for getting a traditional job in the corporate world, lock in a relatively comfy upper middle class 200k a year income, and open some doors for certain professions, like finance and consulting. You don’t gain real skills in demand however.

[@FirmLearning]

Great video! As an INSEAD MBA and Ex-McKinsey, I recently created a video on my channel what I believe the top 5 reasons are to do an MBA. Hope this is helpful - interesting topic!

[@MrMusic55123]

24k for MBA is cheap from Boston University. Univ of Michigan, UNC, and Cornell all have an MBA for over 110k

[@ahsanmohammed1]

Billionaires saying degrees are useless probably has an impact

[@EasyKiwi111]

Yes, the applications are declining but they didn't say anything about if there is a demand for MBA graduates in the job market. That's what I really wanted to know.

[@matthewbaese5472]

Still better than a degree in feminist study’s, fashion,social justice, black study’s, or political science

[@anirr943]

Markets are just one component of the system. There's so much more to our system than just money and selling products; more important ones. If you think an MBA is better than a lot of academic degrees, then sadly it just shows ignorant you are of the world that we share.

[@ashuu3]

It doesn't what degrees we have as long as they help us to earn money or helping us to gain something we want.

[@futurekillerful]

matthew baese matthew baese tbh the political science one is only useless if you don’t go to law school. I agree with the rest tho... also tbh an MBA is useful in that you can get a job... but it’s useless in the sense of guaranteeing you a good job. Tbh the argument can be made that really the only great degrees (like on their own) are engineering, computer science related ones tbh. Every other degree is essentially not worth much or useless unless you go to some grad school... law school... medical.... etc.

[@futurekillerful]

matthew baese but yeah I’ve met some people with MBAs that are making bank... but more often then not they manage at a Chick-fil-A or something like that. I mean a Chick-fil-A is a great company... but as far as salary goes.... yeah. Tbh tho when it comes to an MBA it really depends on the school tho it seems... kinda like a law degree in that sense... top 10 law school or business school guarantees you a great starting job... top 50 or so you’ll start out good enough as long as your grades were up to par.. after that... yeah

[@rmfinance1781]

MBAs are worth the work, but not worth the cost of admission. I'm not paying $24,000 for an online program despite having the money to do so. An online MBA program should cost $15,000 at the most.

[@danielmurillo1060]

I just got a new job at a corporate office and half the questions they asked were regarding my masters program...... it definitely helps regardless of what anyone says

[@avereussabine6757]

Lol after you have done masters they will ask questions related with masters not bachelors dumb

[@danielmurillo1060]

avereus sabine well yeah but I didn’t even finish my masters yet and that’s all they seemed to car about , and now that I’m 6 months in they told me that was one of the main reasons they hired me so no not dumb actually

[@IVIaedhros]

Interviewing current MBAs is pointless. The best people to interview are the alumni who graduated 5-10 years ago then compare them to their non-MBA peers.

[@FitWithCalisthenics]

There's also a trend in which some schools are adding the MBA as a dual degree option. Some of them are like the JD/MBA or MEd/MBA. It's making the MBA a secondary degree as opposed to one that someone would focus 2 years on.

[@carstars]

Dynamic is the word. Why would anyone hire someone listening to professors for 2 more years?

[@josephlugo3015]

If you listen to the students carefully, you can tell that it is only for certain career fields that an MBA would be worth it. Careers like the medical and engineering fields where an MBA is necessary for advancement. Getting an MBA nowadays is not the sure thing that it was a couple of years ago and people are starting to see that which is why enrolment is down for MBA programs.

[@nitigyashaw]

The journalist was great, and the dean was transparent giving honest response like terming education as business and courses as products which is pretty rare nowdays.

[@ignmorales]

The Economist magazine not long ago said that it is better to see all seasons of Breaking Bad in order to learn about business v MBA Programs. That's what I advice while teaching in MBA Programs.

[@iamcherreymaiya]

They have articulately described their stance. They totally made the point clear on how the MBA will give value to them.

[@andrewo8184]

The interviewer is Great. Realy good questions and to the point. Keep going.

[@geraldlee7155]

still doesn't answer the original question ...at least one thing's certain, an MBA education is just another product, only that it costs you and arm and a leg and then some 🙄

[@96RTJ]

I like how he attacked her with his direct questions. 😂

[@samguy7209]

it wasn't an 'attack'. he was just asking questions...

[@Iamstevenyang]

It doesn’t matter how you got your MBA, it’s all about the cost and the connections you make.

[@DSNCB919]

You gotta get a degreee to make connections😂

[@CancilleriLuis]

The question is, why The demand of MBA are slowing down?

[@anthonyt425]

2 years later and all the top companies are paying more money for top shelf graduates with MBA’s. It’s even more lucrative now to go into consulting in the business administration world.

[@Mysticbladegod]

Gaining a hard skill, like coding, data, etc. is worth so much more than an MBA

[@wghost1]

That is the reason why the value of these commercial courses would never be equivalent to self education you can always start your own MBA , but that won't work for people who seek a job promotion it's much better for entrepreneurs

[@demstaincanada]

The best lessons in life is life itself.

[@manjunathmadabal]

Take that money and start any business, that experience will teach you whole lot more than the degree. I did my regular MBA in 2006-2008.

[@rd9102]

In my experience and opinion, most "degree's" aren't worth it. College is a bloated experience that cost a fortune and mostly a bloated education, very little of it is tied to the actual field of study.

[@Vim_Tim]

The student stories are strong & consistent overall, but Nari is coping: she studied the wrong engineering (chemical) and transitioned far away with a job at Amazon after the MBA. The technical world is full of leaders without MBA (Lisa Su, Pat Gelsinger, Anne Wojcicki, Eric Yuan).

[@pteranodon6612]

MBA Use cases: 1. Your employer wants you to get additional training to put you on a management track and they're willing to finance your MBA. 2. You come from a wealthy background and you want some training for running a business. If you're just a regular person with no business connections and you need to take out a bunch of loans, it's not worth it.

[@benjaminmonessa9224]

MBA is networking. And it boosts your pay into industries like consulting. Don’t expect to be a business tycoon from a 2 year program, but do expect to earn more in an industry you were already qualified for

[@aleterra]

you can get the same knowledge in an udemy course for 15 bucks.

[@mikedayokane6964]

Or just Google for free lol but what ur really getting is the stamp of the uni. A stamp from an ivy league school can take you very far tho

[@KK-pm7ud]

Not true, but okay.

[@dynamo3059]

doesnt matter, it's about a degree and networking. knowledge is only a bonus.

[@RichardWalls]

A degree is verification and a signal to employers about your education. Won't get that out of a udemy course, though the educational content is there.

[@Kanal7Indonesia]

@@RichardWalls agree.

[@rohansingh9040]

Most of MBA candidates in US schools are foreigners, the current immigration doesn't provide them to enter hence they don't apply + plus the cost is also high + it's not worth it if it's not from ivy leagues where selection process is tougher than winning hunger games.

[@marketmaestro4089]

Wages staying flat, tuition keeps going up. ROI just isn't what it used to be.

[@hosackies]

I know a girl that dropped 80k and 2 years at Wharton for an mba. And once she's done, she started a drop shipping Korean skin care biz, albeit with better photoshopped pictures! So there is value in an mba kids!

[@shekcbanny]

MBA is too general. Waste of money and time. Rather take a CS/programming degree, or some practical financing/accounting degrees like CA , CPA or CFA..

[@herryfrd2740]

not true. Top 20 MBA's are def worth the money and time depending on your career goal

[@enixliu]

Herryfrd Top 16

[@carladams9345]

The vast majority of programmers are going to be replaced by AI, as well as CPA's and CFA's.

[@kotare86]

Carl Adams AI will also replace KZbin commenters soon y'know

[@carladams9345]

@@kotare86 Not the ones that are great at their jobs.

[@antbrooks1625]

Most MBAs are not worth it. Just get your Bachelor's and some certifications if you're on the fence about it. An MBA does look nice if you're in a position to obtain one though.

[@may4081]

Would love to hear their thoughts now post covid about “online” alternatives 👀

[@serruptitiousfool]

The majority now are wishing they would of paid $24k.

[@jerbsherb4391]

For anyone considreing MBA, please have at least 3-5 years of work experience along with being in management roles. It will provide a lot more value in your day-to-day tasks as well as help you get ahead in your career.

[@MuditVerma]

I feel bad that my first thought watching this video is that everyone looks really tired and sleep-deprived.

[@linglee5759]

MBA is network and new job only. Also only as good as the school it is from so little point in an online MBA. Also now many are not going for MBA as with free resources via youtube, online access to many books to download free there has never been more information hoow to invest money, how to invest in stockmarkets, in real estate, passive income ideas, start a business etc. Ways to make contact via Linkedin in etc to network. So many resources that were not available few decades ago. MBA unless from Harvard, LBS, Wharton etc just adds further debt.

[@mohammadusama1718]

Every degree degree is worthy it's all depends on u!

[@derrickk773]

Gender Studies?

[@user-lu6yg3vk9z]

@@derrickk773 dude is an idiot. market is saturated with M.B.A.s who cant find work. college in general a scam. KZbin peter schiff college. Let me get your thoughts.

[@v.krishnankaushik9812]

Top 20 b schools of a particular country should be the priority rather top 10. Top 10 in China, India, UK, US. It's all worth it. The investment is different across different countries. If you take x amount of loan and you can repay it in next 2 years since the time of getting placed then you are doing good. Further if you stop learning new trends then there is no use of MBA at all, as it's just a enabler.

[@thenightaway423]

Honestly, you'll learn more about businesses by just studying accounting and being a CPA alone, but people need jobs and businesses value the MBA. What can you do? You just need to get those three letters behind your name to get a job. I guess you're going for it for the recognition but not really for the knowledge.

[@TheTruthFadeswithTime28]

I am getting a masters in accounting so I can become a CPA.

[@davidcantor293]

You do NOT need to sit in class and pay that tuition for a degree other than a STEM field or trade skill... Online is the way to go, its cheap, easy, and worth it since you learn in the field anyways.