Is College Really a Scam Now?

Should you go to college? Or is it just a waste of your time? Is the whole college system a scam?
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[@CollegeHacked]

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[@robringlehan8171]

This is one of the most frustrating subjects ever. I work in the government which makes it 10x worse. I am a technician with a small batch of other techs (7) in a job with another 50 plus engineers that are doing the exact same job. Literally no differences in our responsibilities. Most of them are young engineers fresh out of college. Even after multiple years in the job I'd say half of the engineers are less than impactful. They get more regular and high raises as well as a 10% bonus. All the technicians who do the majority of the work are now all going to WGU and doing sofia courses to fast track the Computer Science degree because it is now ABET accredited but that is just to catch up to where we should have already been. It's wild. Thanks for the content and the vision

[@CollegeHacked]

Definitely backwards and hurtful, with a splash of bad management. Sorry you’re all having to go through this, glad we exist to help if you all need it!

[@TXMEDRGR]

The best degrees leads to license, i.e. health science degrees.

[@asims1988]

My take is every degree has too much filler. When I was majoring in computer science I remember leaving Spanish class and I was on my way to art history afterwards. I felt I was being scammed so I went to the guidance counselor later and asked why I have to take all these non computer science classes for my degree (I took biology, astronomy, etc). She explained employers like well rounded employees. When I asked what that even meant, she shrugged her shoulders. I was so close to dropping out after that.

[@CollegeHacked]

Our education system is still largely a relic of past, idyllic, factory days. 😔

[@ReturnOfTheJ.D.]

I did a BA in Journalism and then years later an IT degree. They gave me credit only for the non-IT subjects - one semester's worth or four units. So the great thing was not having to do any non-IT units at all, which just distract you from your real work. However, because I started it in the 90s, there was no path to get a Masters (which is a full year off, so only two years) like today, and no funding for a decade after you graduate from the first degree (unlike now I believe). Even TAFE (community college) certificate holders got a year off their IT degree, when a Bachelors Degree only got you half that (if in an unrelated field).

[@RichardDong68]

>Recruiters hiring inefficient people with a degree, and not efficient people without a degree. This man couldn't have hit the nail on the head any better.

[@CollegeHacked]

If only more people agreed!

[@TheLifeofKam99]

In my opinion undergraduate programs should be structured the same way graduate programs are currently. Undergraduate degrees should consist of 10-12 classes and take 1-2 years to be completed. All coursework should be core classes only. Electives should be optional and be half the price of core classes. Tuition at state universities should be regulated by the government to where they cannot charge more than $500 per credit hour for tuition. Once students graduate they should not have to start paying student loans until 5 years post graduation. Student loans for STEM programs should be interest free.

[@CollegeHacked]

Kam for president! 💪🏼

[@kurtsalm2155]

No, you'll get all the corruption that government intervention brings and everything they touch turns to shit.

[@loocpoc]

They need to invest in some of these struggling colleges and turn them into technical and training schools. Lots of trades are going to need more employees in the future

[@CollegeHacked]

Fantastic idea!!

[@brisy3]

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[@Brilliance2]

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[@Mbabbb399]

I just sold my software business and I’m also in college for computer science right now and was just looking at some IT positions locally to fill my time when I’m not in class or playing sports and they want a bachelors for $21 an hour entry to mid-level IT support position. All I can say, is go to hell. There is gonna have to be a balance reset of expectation here I’m not paying $70,000 to go make 20 bucks an hour for somebody.

[@CollegeHacked]

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[@user-bc7dz7ei4x]

Bachelor degrees have become the new high school diploma. Now you need a Masters degree for companies to take you seriously.

[@BarbAnn]

Thank you, Dr. Stumme for discussing Administrative Bloat. So many universities and colleges are top heavy with high cost administration and at the same time don't pay livable wages to lower level employees on their campuses. One of the main drivers in rising costs is overpriced and unnecessary admin. Does every department need to have a Provost? Instead of creating full time professors, more teaching positions are filled by adjuncts who have little to no say in the teaching process and receive shockingly low pay for teaching. There needs to be much more focus on education and students. Simplify and reduce the bloat!

[@CollegeHacked]

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[@BarbAnn]

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[@federicoleguizamon7000]

I agree with 98% of what you said. I like how direct and honest you are with some of the most challenging topics. I know what you mean by "there is not much that we can do", but I do think there is something we *can* do and we often neglect and that is placing more emphasis on trying to understand what career we want to follow. Now, for many of us (myself included), we figured out what we really wanted to do AFTER we started working. In my case, supply chain. However, I do find it concerning that the vast majority of professionals went to school for one thing and ended up doing something completely different. Ej. Someone goes to school for Psychology, but is currently doing real estate. What do you feel is going on here? Do we live in a very indecisive society? Shouldn't going to school for one thing and doing another be the exception and not the rule? I figured out I had a passion for supply chain when I was 25 and working for a life insurance company. I went back to school and got my SCM degree. So, I guess I fall in that group of indecisive people, but fortunately since I was able to shift to supply chain I am able to apply many of the things I learned in college.

[@CollegeHacked]

We don’t think it’s a necessarily a bad thing when someone goes to school for one thing and life takes them in a new direction. Life is long (if you’re lucky), and there is space for lots of different chapters in it. But a big part of that discrepancy is the young age we are typically forced to pick a major, and then the abundance of connectivity that exists now. We get exposed to so many different career options through social media and news that were just never things we would have known about in years past. It’s a blessing and a curse 😝 It’s great that you found your passion! Not everyone ends up finding something they feel so strongly about :)

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[@moozerk1264]

Business need to hire based on experience and productivity and NOT the degree.

[@CollegeHacked]

We agree!

[@GSU_Panther_Nation]

The tuition is getting more expensive nowadays, so that is why more and more people are getting educated from 2-year colleges

[@raysheppard2912]

In your list of reasons college tuition prices have gone up you missed one very important item: Technology. The cost of offering online programs, the cost of in-classroom technology, is much higher than people think. I'm not sure there is much that can really be done about this expense since people expect colleges to offer online programs and to have good classroom technology.

[@CollegeHacked]

Very valid point! Software as a service really did change the market and increase the cost of online facilitation.

[@chrisdavis6264]

Idk what it takes, but I can’t ever seek to get past 25,000 as a high school diploma holder. I have a college degreem and still it is the same struggle. It is crazy. The job market want to treat college graduates as if they are no different than a high schooler. Total crap

[@CollegeHacked]

Could it be your resume/application materials? Maybe your resume is getting kicked from a lot of ATS softwares because it has formatting the softwares can’t interpret accurately, which leaves you with a bad “match score” to the posted job description and results in your early elimination from the pool? Just a thought!

[@gdj777]

Two college graduates in a corner: "Hey look! that person doesn't have a degree! How dumb!" (While laughin like Patrick from Spongebob) So that's how gov, culture and academia have shaped the points of views...Human ego and pride weaponized to indebt you.

[@citrosoda5370]

Dear high-school seniors: go to a cheap competency-based easy bachelor's program while working and get a feel for what you want your career to look like, and then get a one-year masters (if applicable) in what you want to do. Thank me later.

[@mrmartywaring]

I wouldn't call college a scam. I would say it's not for everyone though.

[@Sandlewood-ti3sv]

I’m torn. I love my college education history. It’s such a cool story Ged to masters at Georgetown 4.0. But if I could be king for a day and make it so people working service jobs didn’t have to spend a decade of their life in college and still make a decent way in life I would. Education was helpful I learned a lot I always was 100% dedicated got excellent grades did every assignment the best to my ability. But honestly I don’t remember it all. If you gave me an assignment I think most of time I could figure it out and get it started and completed within your deadline with all the right people attached. But I can’t possibly remember over a decade of higher education all the time plus my own learning on the side. I probably watch 2 hrs of educational videos a day. Plus whatever classes I’m taking at the time. Then my 8-9 hrs of work a day. No brain can handle keeping all that knowledge. If anything I’m an expert at school I know what I gotta do then do it and submit on time with an A. This comes in handy at work too for work assignments.

[@CollegeHacked]

This is a very noble post ❤️ Our team has PhDs, and we definitely agree with this. Much of the value in higher education comes from how it changes you as a person and stretches your brain, rather than the actual material you memorize. You nailed it.

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[@mixmax6027]

Yes, but you beed to have it to get paid.

[@CollegeHacked]

Depends on the industry! But usually true, yes.

[@hardlessons9732]

Unless u invest in the stem field

[@raysheppard2912]

There are plenty of opportunities for people who major in the social sciences, etc. I majored in sociology, earned a masters in history, and I'm doing very well (in field). It is not about the degree so much as it is about the planning that went into the goals. Start with the end in mind and set your goals based on that end.

[@hardlessons9732]

@@P.90.603 Not quite. The ones who studied non-stem usually end up in careers that doesn’t reflects their field of studies. However, those who started within the stem field tend to stay within the stem field long term

[@Variety_Streams]

Get specialized (healthcare, psychological services) and it’s worth it

[@CollegeHacked]

Fresh perspective!

[@battpaste3475]

It's no wonder why I dont bother. I hope I can exceed $20/hr sometime in my life.

[@CollegeHacked]

You got this! 💪🏼

[@peeptbgod7047]

Just go to school and get any degree.

[@matanotofeden999]

What is the best place to get a bachelor's and then a master's in psychology that also accepts Clep? Online. What are good options in general?

[@CollegeHacked]

Do you want the masters to come with licensure? What’s the end goal? :)

[@matanotofeden999]

@@CollegeHacked Is a master's in psychology without a license useful?

[@CollegeHacked]

@@matanotofeden999 A masters is virtually always useful, the question is mostly is the cost/time worth it in the long run for you as an individual. But as far as CACREP accredited schools that offer a hackable bachelors in psych and a masters for LPC or LMFT, Liberty University is my top recommendation :)

[@matanotofeden999]

@@CollegeHacked thank you. And the other major I'm highly considering,... Torn between the two actually, is Special Education. Ideally I would like to stay with the same school throughout the process.. I would like to get my foot in the door with Clep the basic classes and then will probably make a final decision from there.. any advice, input?

[@CollegeHacked]

@@matanotofeden999 Anything education with K-12 licensure will have a residential component, so for that WGU would be a better fit--unless you want to visit Lynchburg, VA to go to Liberty ;) WGU has partners throughout the US so less likely you'd need to go somewhere super far. Pretty different directions, though! If you're torn between the two and haven't shadowed someone in both types of roles to see the day to day, that's the next best step to help you decide!

[@jackcarraway4707]

The name of the game is getting out of college debt free.

[@CollegeHacked]

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[@mb4175]

I loved the other thumbnail lol

[@CollegeHacked]

Too many people didn’t 😜

[@bryanbarr4151]

On the surface of it, yes, college can be a scam. This is to say for the most part it is a waste of time and money, and it gets worse, and worse. More, and more young people are coming out of college (with "degrees"), that are not marketable. The key to college is to earn a MARKETABLE degree. To get a liberal arts, or anthropology, or archeology degree is pretty much a waste of time because the amount of jobs available in those fields are not plentiful enough to sustain the amount of people trying to secure jobs with those degrees, especially for liberal arts. Music degrees are also not very marketable. Now, if an aspiring college student chooses to study and pursue a degree in Engineering, medicine, law, criminology, or something where there is an actual demand for jobs, they stand a much better chance of having a degree with value. Therefore, college becomes less of a scam. However, for the vast majority of students, it is a scam, because they don't get the right guidance, and end up choosing an unmarketable area of study. Takeaway for students? Do extensive research before choosing a degree program. If you want a good job after college, it is immensely important to choose an area of study that will foster the very best chance of securing that job

[@CollegeHacked]

As someone who got into medical school with a Liberal Studies degree, they are fantastic if you create them with intention.

[@bryanbarr4151]

@@CollegeHacked Good on you, but you would not get anywhere with only a Liberal Arts degree. You are pursuing Medical school to actual get a marketable job

[@CollegeHacked]

@@bryanbarr4151 After I got accepted to medical school and decided not to attend, I helped hundreds of students graduate with Liberal Studies degrees and go on to a number of successful job situations. One designed a degree to become a medical illustrator, several others went the telehealth direction when it was a brand new job. These are anecdotal examples, but there are tons more. I've seen too much evidence of the value Liberal Studies degrees can bring to ever agree that they aren't worthwhile. Does it work for everyone? No, nothing in the world does. But that doesn't mean it's not a valuable option.

[@bryanbarr4151]

@@CollegeHacked Everything you have cited is understood, but the fact still remains that the vast majority of those without engineering, medical, law etc degrees (degrees where there are way more marketable jobs available), have little, or no value. It's nice that there are a small percentage of people with degrees that aren't as marketable, get jobs, but that vast majority have a difficult time, or don't even try. The original point with this, is that students need to be wary of which area of study they go into. To allow for the best chance for success, it is advisable that people go into a more marketable area of study. Will there be anomalies? Of course. Have there been students that secured jobs where there aren't as many jobs available Yes. But, people are doing themselves a huge favor by going into an area of study that is more marketable. It's about marketability. Which jobs are more marketable? Which jobs are more plentiful? If (for example), a person goes for an Archeology degree, they may eventually get a job, but jobs in that field are not plentiful at all, and they don't really pay all that well. Not to justify the cost of attaining the degree. I understand people may take exception with my comments about some degrees not being as valuable as others, but maybe value is not the word I should use. Let's just say this. A person with a law degree, or someone graduating medical school, or nursing school, is going to have a way easier time securing a job, than one with a liberal arts degree. Again, can people with "a degree" get a job. Yes. There is a question though. Why are there so many "degreed" people without jobs?. There are several reasons, but one of the main reasons is marketability. If one has a marketable skill, they can secure a job.

[@CollegeHacked]

@@bryanbarr4151 I don't agree that there is a "wrong" major or way to do higher education. Everyone has different goals and contexts for how and why they need a degree, so I don't think it's helpful to think about it in terms of majors people should avoid. You're also neglecting the concept of "fit" for generalized statistics. Saying someone has an X percent change of getting a job doesn't take into account the unique things that potentially make them an exceptional fit for it, and a better fit than someone who might even have the "right" degree. It's true that if you earn a Liberal Studies degree with no plan or intention behind how to use it later you're going to be at a disadvantage getting a job. But the majority of people pursue Liberal Studies type degrees with a plan in mind (even if it's just to qualify themselves for more job positions that require degrees when they shouldn't).