IS CRAB KING REWORK BETTER OR WORSE? | Don't Starve Together

[@dope7846]

these changes look really good, the crab king is to this day the only reason I haven’t tried to go for celestial champion and stuck with fuel weaver, the amount of preparation always seemed way too much and it usually discouraged me to even try (even the bee cheese looks like a pain to do)

[@danielmatson4209]

Honestly using a few killer bee stacks isn't that hard to set up. The biggest issue is it was just silly. There was 0 fun in killing him before. The healing was too frustrating and so until now bees the only way I ever killed crab king. I am now doing a run to fight the new crab king. I have always preferred celestial champion over fuelweaver though. Fuelweaver frustrates me infinitely because I struggle to mentally juggle the equipment switching necessary to kill the unseen hands and the woven shadows by myself. I also just really like playing lights out, so celestial champion is helpful because turning on the moon storms is great in lights out.

[@theo-dv3ur]

@@danielmatson4209 me the way i killed crab king is sea weed around 15 of them can kill the boss

[@placeholderdoe]

One thing I like is that that made the fight unique, which is a hallmark of all the best bosses in dst. Ancient guardian has the stun locking, celestial champion has its drastic changes in fighting style, and now crab king switches between a position and resource management ocean fight to a minion based “land” fight

[@RadicaIjoe]

I do wish there was a more noticeable way of telling when the ice was going to break, i know the characters say the arena is breaking, but I wish the tiles themselves changed so show it instead of instantly popping out if existence. I'm 100% not salty because I fell into the ocean cause the ice closest to ck broke.

[@JazzysGames]

Yeah lol I took a few dips in the ice water myself.

[@nettalie4435]

It would also help out a lot if players would automatically jump onto ice sheets that appear basically just underneath them. Because drowing due to it disappearing is one thing, but it stings all the more when an ice sheet was literally right next to you [im talking less than a wall's width away], and you instead get vacuumed into the waters below.

[@Belphaggor]

Wait does it not? I never paid attention to the character calling it out, I just see a smaller crack starting on the ice and I know to start going away

[@RadicaIjoe]

@@Belphaggor they went back and added an actual crack into the ice, so it's much easier to tell what tile is breaking now.

[@zeroboros934]

Every time they've done a fight based around a big enemy that spawns protectors (queen bee, Queen womant, ancient herald, and now this), you have ALWAYS been discouraged from interacting with the minions and are disproportionately rewarded for finding a way to bypass or ignore them. I don't like this personally, but trying to make a fight where you need to churn through a ton of respawning hp in minions will always have a problem of dragging on if you are forced to kill them. The biggest difference between all of the previous one though and this one is that the rework is stunning in unique mechanics and cool setpieces, and there is a lot more total to the fight than just ignoring minions (see: queen bee). So having the land minion phase be bypassed is not the worst thing, as theres still a good bit of gameplay past it, and the scene of crashing through the icewall is cool enough on its own.

[@yourenbytemmieverse]

crab king is gonna be much more bearable in this update. this is a pretty nice change.

[@caoinhnamkhanh2795]

minion spam is always a finnicky design choice for a game that is primarily single target attacks with limited range, but the fact that crab minions are just not an issue with panflute rlly makes the ice phase feel like beequeen but a lot easier and for the claws, i feel like they have a bit too much range and can clump up in 1 line bbut overall, i'd say ck is shaping up to be a banger. hopefully your suggestions go thru cuz you had great ideas also i want NO OCEAN MOBS to spawn (and for them to be revamped/hp lowered cuz god they are awfulllllll)

[@Joao_Paulo277]

Klei already has the solution for the minion spawns, they just have to copy the dragonfly fight and spawn them periodically, not all at the same time while also dealing with the main boss' healing

[@KillerMoustache]

It got to be difficult for the devs to design all of these bosses to be manageable in both group fights for online play and solo play.

[@lionking10222]

Great feedback, perfectly explained! I hope Klei watches this.

[@darkstone_official_2427]

Here are some ideas I had mixed in with basically what you and the community at large suggested (bit of a read): + Crab King has 3 phases now. Phase 1 is the same while Phase 2 activates a little later on closer to halfway. Phase 3 activates when he has 2k-3k health left as a last ditch effort which increases the cannons attack speed and range, able to hit your boat from pretty far away, almost double their current range, and the minions he spawns while healing are faster and have a quicker attack cooldown, no buffed hp or damage. (that comes later.) - Crab King can no longer be immune while the ice wall is up and can be heal-canceled via ranged attacks. + While Crab King is healing, you can't do damage to him as you would instead be attacking the rocks that he uses to heal himself (effectively 100% armor until his healing phase is done. This puts emphasis on negating this phase to prevent him from regaining any health at all, only being able to deal damage once he's finished healing like a falsified 'back and forth' battle. Any healing that he gets through would then be 100 instead of 125 due to you not being able to undo the damage until after his healing round is over. Might sound like a pain in the ass, but it drags out the fight a little without increasing his health pool. You can still make the case that "he shouldn't be invincible while he's healing because that's just ice-wall and ranged damage all over again", but think about it, 12k for a raid boss's HP is pretty generous considering people can solo the likes of Misery Toadstool and the previous version of Crab King without a cheese strategy. Even with his immunity phase the fight hasn't changed much yet.) + Gems socketed that increase cannon effectiveness also increase range, allowing for, at max gem insertion, the cannons to hit you from anywhere on the field but at the cost of reduced overall damage to their shots. (Because getting pelted from across the map would be annoying if it was constantly dealing max damage and had a faster attack rate.) And now, the moment you've not been waiting for! Should you decide Crab King is too easy and needs more of a challenge you can now fight him after Celestial Champion is defeated and a Lunar Storm is active. I present to you... *ENLIGHTENED CRAB KING* (This version can also be forcefully spawned by socketing nothing but Iridescent Gems and/or Pearl's Pearl) + All incoming damage from his various sources have a flat Planar Damage modifier leaning towards Lunar and will do a pre-set damage being around 20% of the original attacks damage + its current damage value. (So if something did 100 damage before it'll now deal 120 with 20 of that piercing your armor.) + 1.5x Health (18,000) + Increased attack speed + +3 Base Claws + +3 Cannon Towers + Can spawn the ice arena in a larger radius and no longer waits for you to be out of range. + If you're in range of the ice arena when he summons it, you are temporarily frozen (bringing back old CK freeze mechanic but not as deadly) - Can no longer heal and instead will spawn Crab Minions that can swim towards your boat like Strider Spiders to attack you from anywhere. - No longer stays stationary and will now dive underwater and reappear in 1 of X locations within 6 tiles of his spawning location. (This means he's somewhat like Quacken and will dive under and reappear nearby to continue attacking you, forcing you to be on your feet or fight with multiple people. This would effectively turn him into a REAL Raid boss that would require either maximum skill to fight alone, or a player or two to assist you in the fight.) Once he's moved to a different location away from his central spawn area, he'll choose between going to a spot opposite where he is or returning to center at a 66-33% change for each respectively, meaning you can assume him to go to the opposite side of the field, only to be jumpscared when he resurfaces right next to your boat and pushes you away. (The spots he can go to are tiled away from the center in each direction, centering him on a tile himself, so 6 tiles N-E-S-W, and 3-4 tiles diagonally, set up in a somewhat circular pattern like the Archive Memory Puzzle.) +++ Upon defeating this version of Crab King you are awarded a Celestial Crown Shard. In addition to this update for Crab King, the Celestial Crown can now be crafted after killing Celestial Champion, via an updated altar drop like a refined orb or something (instead of the standard one you get form the moon rock and put into the machine to summon CC) or a rare Tumbleweed Blueprint. This recipe will still require the 5 shards to craft but as of now deconstructing the crown will only yield 3 shards instead of the original 5, making it a proper (roughly) halved recipe upon deconstruction. (You can't use decon/con cheese to farm shards as it would break into 3 and require 3 to craft even if you used both methods. Either way you'll still have to kill CC or ECK again to get more shards.)

[@darkstone_official_2427]

The reason I added a Shard drop to his loot table for Enlightened is because it'll make farming crowns for large servers a slightly less pain in the ass as you now (can fight both bosses at once in separate parties, or) no longer need to gang up on CC for a guaranteed crown and a shard and can also farm up an infinite light source mid-game by getting a shard from CK before you fight CC via his shard drop if you insert the 8 Iridescent gems and Pearl's Pearl, or 9 Iridescent gems. Not a cheap light source by any means, but it lets you make those infinite mush-lights before defeating the final boss of the game, or if you're insanely lucky and you fight him 3 times, you can find a rarely dropped tumbleweed blueprint for the Celestial Crown itself and use a construction amulet to craft a crown out of the 3 shards it would take when half-cost. Again, this was just an idea to revamp the already revamped boss, because corporate companies big or small never get things right. Not saying my idea is better, just saying it exists. If you wanna make a mod or something using these ideas you're free to, I don't care, I'd honestly love to see it.

[@nettalie4435]

Important to note should also be that it seems blue gems ALSO increase freeze resistance, just like before Reason I mention this is because for the ice platform phase you can actually stall out his heal if you freeze him whilst getting pushed away. Since the platform is triggered through your boat's distance to crabking, he'll be stuck frozen in the middle of the ice platform being summoned, giving you time to prepare for panflute uses, fighting the crab guards, or do boat repairs. No idea if this would "solve" your issue regarding the crab guards, but I personally really like using ice staves this way, especially when compared to how you'd use them pre rework.

[@JazzysGames]

That’s really interesting. I need to try freezing CK. I was so excited to not use them any more lol.

[@androidspice5368]

What if the ice was able to be pickaxed instead of damaged? Also I just had this thought.. what if they incorporated the cannon that’s able to be placed on boat as sort of a cheat code? Maybe breaks lots of ice immediately or something. Just to get you to use little items that you otherwise wouldn’t normally.

[@coolguyfox4162]

I think they should add a hockey stick, which you can use to whack the crab guards back into the water. It'd be fun way to quickly deal with the crab guards! Especially as an alternative to just using the pan flute. Then you could have fun with the interactions that'd have in the boss fight. For example, you could quickly dispatch the guards by knocking them into the ocean, or knock them into the ice wall to break em down faster. Although, maybe that loses the original spirit of an ocean based boss fight.

[@JazzysGames]

Wait isn’t there a hockey stick skin for the spear?

[@culteyeoftaxfraud1143]

​@@JazzysGames Yes there is its part of canada chest.

[@unrulyemu5577]

I'm dying to know how sea weeds do in this fight. All those sea stacks surrounding Crab King before the fight starts, it seems like an invitation to plant sea weed starters. In the old fight, the freeze attack would aggro all the sea weeds. In the new fight... Would the destruction of the sea stacks at the start of the fight also kill the sea weeds? Or aggro them? Or neither? Would they be effective at all against the ice walls?

[@ArtistthiccArttwerks]

I noticed something. If Crab King spawns near the lunar islands, stepping on the ice platform will count as a lunar island. I'm not a veteran player and I just beat him recently where I encountered the problem. It also took 3 pan flute to make the crabs sleep. IDK if it was intentional or a bug.

[@zathrox10]

Hey everyone, for a post pearl crab king fight once you've done the pearl. What are the best or your favorite gem combos? Because the pearl adds 3+ to all categories, so without that you can do a variety of different combos with gems alone, ao i wanna know!

[@JazzysGames]

I like four orange, four purple, and one green!

[@zathrox10]

@@JazzysGames thanks! I'll give this one a try!

[@dzsikhaj1155]

Personally, the best way to get people to deal with minions is giving a reward to the player for going the extra mile. This could be achieved many ways, but the most fun I can think off is: after killing a minion the self healing done in the last 5 second by Crab King nullifies. Maybe the King could have a 10% damage resistance while the minions are alive, so you don't just cheese the minions and put them to sleep. This way you would deal with minions first and not worry about the heals done while not dealing damage to the king.

[@greenbowers8330]

I feel they need to incentivize interacting with more of the mechanics by sailing around the arena. Thats my only complaint with it. I absolutely love the direction they took the fight but i think it needs a little more.

[@declanhanrahan1759]

I really like that the fight was made so much easier, even if that feels weird to say! Like. I feel it makes way more sense for an ocean-based boss to have this level of difficulty, especially considering Pearl’s quest line comes before it! It just really didn’t need to be an end game fight, considering how much setup is involved. But then again, I say all this as a part of the percentage of players who find CK wayyy more difficult than the Celestial Champion! That said, there are a FEW things that definitely need tweaking before it’s a proper rework, mostly that the claws may as well not exist and there needs to be a better balance of the minions being very irritating if you deal with them normally, but entirely useless if you use a Pan Flute.

[@BobTheHamEnthusiast]

it is worth noting that by putting ocean trawler kits next to your boat before starting the fight, ck will be unable to push your boat back during the wave phase, rendering him completely stuck. the cannon towers are still available to hit you and the boat, but the fight becomes a pushover after that. kinda hope that could be fixed in some sense

[@JazzysGames]

Yeah, I saw that video. Not sure I would ever do the fight like that, but I think I’m actually OK with it existing.

[@thomasdevlin5825]

I've never fought Crab King before, but it's not because I never reached the point where I could, it's because I was already getting bored of the world when I got to him, and fighting him sounded so awful that I couldn't bring myself to do it and eventually I just stopped playing that world. This new fight looks so much better, I hope one day they rework a majority of the raid bosses to make it so you don't have to spam pan flutes and weather pains in order to beat them

[@123idkwhattoput]

Crab pets are required now

[@TheFructowallGuy]

True..

[@xdrago1051]

Personally i think the wave idea at the start of the fight should be 100% implemented and possibly give that phase 3k more hp. The phase needs to last more than 30 seconds imo. Making the first phase 5k hp and the second 10k is fitting. It'd give more time for actual ocean combat with boat measurability. The crab guards need to be more menacing somehow. Currently they're a complete non threat with just a simple panflute. I agree that sleep immunity is not the right choice. Im thinking maybe the crab guards dont spawn all at once. Instead they spawn in short intervals somewhere within aggro range of the player so they cant be ignored. This'd make the sleep strat inefficient since it'd require too many uses to fully negate the crab guards. This'll force the player to actually engage with the crab guards or potentially run around the ice wall to avoid them. In the process this'd make the ice wall actually effective since you'd have to frequently break a new one or go all the way around again back to the ones you were focusing in hopes of avoiding the crab guard. If they go down this route though they'd have to nerf the crab guard HP a bit. If its too high the 1 by 1 spawns would make it impossible to even injure the crab king. I agree with the idea of giving the player something to do in between ice sheet spawns. Having to break a certain amount of towers is a smart idea.

[@JazzysGames]

Have you checked out the latest hotfix? They definitely addressed some of these issues!

[@dergallier5926]

Already looks way better then the old Crab King fight i think one change that would be interesting is when after the ice platform breaks they turn into many ice Rafts wich you have to use to hop around and destroy the towers or some towers before you can hit Crab king again what also could be a funny idea is if you could use the Towers splash Damage to help destroy the minions during the ice Platform stage so you could do a mix of gems wich boosts Towers & Minions

[@Kirokill1]

WINONA SKILL TREE?!

[@placeholderdoe]

Yeah, the update is in beta currently but it’s really cool

[@cryptorial]

​@@placeholderdoewhen will the update fully come out

[@placeholderdoe]

@@cryptorial I’m pretty sure they haven’t said yet. But they usually release updates on Thursdays, so maybe the Thursday either next week or the week after.

[@cryptorial]

@@placeholderdoe thanks

[@NickAndriadze]

This version of the fight is definitely superior to the original gameplay-wise, but dang, the original customization mechanic (The HP increasing one specifically) of Crab King was _SO_ cool! You could basically create your own hyper-challenging superboss and with the game that has so many super-difficult bosses already, he fit right in on that regard, however flawed he was. Now, the whole gem stacking aspect of the boss feels even less impactful than it did before, the green gems are the new purple gems it seems. Also, one neat fact about the original Crab King: If you spawned yourself nine pearls with an external cheat tool or an item editor, you could create a crab king that had 500000+ HP and basically immortal, with this rework, this super cool easter egg no longer exists. The fact that they removed the HP aspect really sucks, the base HP nerf is justified but at least the _pearl_ should buff his HP for pete's sake. Oh by the way, do Iridescent gems still increase every single stat at the same time?

[@iloveloonaandiforeverwill6494]

It is so much easier to kill now, I failed miserably before the changes with 4 bundles of ice staffs and weather pains as wanda, then pretty much abandonned the game because I can't beat it. But I just ran in with an alarm clock and a few boat patches after the changes and got him first try after the change, it was so much nicer and engaging than just standing still and throwing different stuffs at him.

[@chuanlittlefat1804]

with the panflute, the fight will be much more easy, and i dont like the way to spawn ice platform when crabking always summon the sea wave until your boat get pushed away, you can easily prevent to be pushed by building many anchors or other cheese way, so i think it should be designed to make players get away his range on their own otherwise will be freezed, and the consequence is that crabking can get healed for that time

[@dajekotlyar4408]

No way Jazzy Starves video? Long time no see

[@Wilson_brb]

I wonder if canons would be good to fight him

[@sera-chan8194]

What do I think? I who never even got as far in the game so it would have been possible for me to even attempt Crab King .. I think it's fine 😂

[@ham8426]

Sounds better on paper, wasn't a fan of the original fight even with a massive health nerf from a mod to make health totals more solo play friendly, 12k sounds decent for a 2-3 player encounter but too much if I'm solo and it looked like you were struggling to keep up with its healing with the Thulecite club. My last encounter it had like maybe 2-3k health because of the mod and my strategy was to just bring 4 or 5 boat kits and deploy and abandon ship as the boat became too damaged, and even then it cost every boat I brought and barely survived. I also am not a very combat focused player in general so while I prefer brevity over complexity my interest is in keeping things interesting overall outside of combat scenarios. I recently made a post on the forums about a possible Antlion rework changing her tribute mechanic to generate sandstorms outside of the Oasis desert rather than cause annoying potholes, making it less of an automatic disable on world setup that it is now along with wildfires which also need a strong rework, summer in general needs help. For me I usually point to Reap What you Sow as an example of a good all around update and what DST needs more of than character skill trees or reworked boss fights, not that some bosses don't need a rework (lookin at you queen bee). I mean honestly its frustrating that Woodie's only defense from full moons requires dealing with moonstorms till CG is defeated when it could have been made a craftable idol or amulet unique to woodie, gated by the moon orb and materials from the lunar isle or something. And how do they plan to handle WX, if the point of skill trees is to diversify the characters with unique talents that players can mix and match to suit their play style, that's really WX's whole rework in a nutshell so how does a skill tree ontop of an already modular character with room for individual playstyles make any sense? I started a run recently with WX to get an idea of his new gimmick, I'm pretty impressed but I still have notes of things that are missing or could use some tweaks.

[@sirjamesfancy]

Wow, I might be able to beat crab king for the first time now.

[@ethanotoroculus1060]

It's strange to say, but while this updated version is undoubtedly more balanced, I almost wonder if I won't miss the previous high-intensity of the old Crab King fight. That old encounter was bs, no sugarcoating it, but it was also so well-paced that it forced you to master yourself in order to win it, kind of like how the Fuelweaver has to be tight. That rapid pace has a ton of merit I think, even if it wasn't necessarily well executed. This fight, while more fair, might be a slight step down in terms of keeping the Crab King engaging. I guess my main problem is that I didn't just want the Crab King to be easier per se, I was hoping it to be a steep but fair challenge.

[@JazzysGames]

Yeah I definitely agree that the pace of this fight feels much slower now. I think the change I suggested after phase 2 - creating requirements to trigger another ice platform - would improve the pacing of that moment in the fight.

[@nettalie4435]

I do like me some high intensity fights in dst, but I find that the pacing of this fight is overall much better given that this is a fight which encourages boat maneuvering, which can be finnicky in a pinch. That and I think a fight like this one and the shadow pieces [fights which are part of an overarching "questline" so to speak] shouldn't be too intense, since they lead up to something more challenging. The previous iteration of crabking was closer to fuelweaver in that regard which always struck me as odd since fuelweaver kind of marked an "end point" of sorts. That being said, I think it'd be really nice if like how was mentioned in the video there was some kind of other condition to trigger the next ice phase, so that the pacing of the fight is at least a bit snappier and there's a tiny bit more asked of the player beyond reaching a single hp threshold and waiting to progress the fight

[@Rudy137]

okok but do bees still work

[@davidanderegg1232]

Was stuck at crab king for 3 years. Finally beat him a month ago -.-

[@jayanta131190]

We have needed a life jacket equip item in the game since forever. The whole sea experience is unwelcoming because one small slip up your boat breaks and its reset all over

[@theo-dv3ur]

wes have that but yeah one that isnt wes depended could be nice actually for fun i imagine what would be my oc perk in dst and one of her craftable is a life jacket

[@PolskiCatazazel]

How to make crabking almost impossible (it's probably posiible but just very hard) things you will put into him is: 1. Pearl 2.pearl 3.pearl Etc.

[@lukasstanley481]

Jazzy wortox can use a one man band to hire pigmen and bunnies, so it doesnt really affect him. And no you dont need to wear it the whole time - any pig/bunny hired with the band can then be fed food to hire them for real allowing you to remove the OMB.

[@gi-go8575]

Im heavily against the rework, i don't get how you can claim this is a more of an ocean boss when you fight it on land. Geyser attack was good and not an instakill not even with purple gems and grass boat. It dealt a lot of damage but it is easy to dodge, plus when the boat dies you loose 1 board. Freeze attack is an instakill but i actually think it's fun to have an instakill attack in a boss fight, especially when its so easy go dodge. All the issues could have and HAVE BEEN fixed, including less claw hp, less boat damage (they overdid it and now claws do nothing at all), managable healing phase, and all gems being balanced. Some are a lot better than others, but I've fought with all variants and even tho the pure blue gem build is the worst by far, its still not too bad, and forces you to fight exclusively outside of heal phase. The rework is unnecessary and I'd love the previous crab with the current number tweaks a lot more. Hp is a very personal preference thing but come on, really? 12k? I get that some people don't enjoy bosses but come on man, pearled crab king takes something like 3 or 5 hours to reach, and then you kill him in 5 minutes. People are into very casual gameplay it seems.

[@JazzysGames]

When you say the issues have been fixed, you mean in this rework, yes? So if nothing else we can maybe agree that aspects of this rework were important to address. Regarding boss health I really don’t need a mid-game boss with nominal rewards to have more HP than the three phases of Celestial Champ combined. Fuelweaver has 16k HP and is one of the most dynamic and engaging boss fights we’ve ever seen in the game. What’s much more important to me is the way that every aspect of the fight engages the player. Even overall difficulty takes a back seat to this for me, though a well-designed fight that demands active engagement at every phase will by nature be more challenging. I do appreciate your honest response; we probably don’t agree on most points and that ok. I’m glad that people care about this.

[@RibbityYT]

this might be my chance to beat him on controller without cheese. And 100% agree that having followers be a requirement is a bad idea for a fight, because you have a small amount of boat and it will be funny to see all of your followers fall into the water when the ice goes away.

[@rosalina2938]

never fought this thing despite having hundreds of hours in DST

[@TheOnlyToblin]

Well, that's nice, because Crab King is probably the dumbest fight in all of DST atm. Yeah, Fuelweaver is a mess, but at least it's on land and somewhat interactive. Crab king...uff.

[@Cats_on_fire]

Fuelweaver is a learned fight

[@unbiased881]

haven't played DST in a while, but man, does it look like they cooked with these changes!

[@arubaro199]

the fact that you recommend full green gem set up shows how bad they are designed , they should be a thread

[@JazzysGames]

Kinna makes sense that a ruins gem would make the fight easier but I get what you’re saying. If you’re sleeping crab guards then purple gems would fill in nicely as well.

[@arubaro199]

@@JazzysGames but both examples show that, instead of engaging, we need to force ignoring an aspect of the fight (sleeping/tanking the crabs) or unintentionally ignore it (claws AI being so dumb) as you say, makes sense that "higher cost=easier fight" but the thing is that green gems being an easier combination doesnt look intentional but rather a problem with the claws since they seem too passive (and sometimes go on top of CK which looks awful) i think the fight can be more dynamic and less repetitive if klei manage to find the solution of we engaging with CK's mechanic s

[@merefailninja953]

At the current moment wurt break the fight in 2 ways. Merms and mudslinger

[@not_umbre]

"please don't make it require followers" Have you... Read the title of the game? Specifically the " *TOGETHER* " part?

[@filippohl9097]

Most of your changes to this new crab king fight would hurt it in my opinion.

[@dragonweirdocreap]

It definitely needs alot of tweeks.

[@JazzysGames]

Agreed! I’m glad we’re only at the start of the beta.

[@asepsisaficionado7376]

Says a lot when half your criticisms are suggestions for klei to make the boss harder, maybe I can finally convince my friends to stick with this game past the end raid bosses

[@JazzysGames]

I wouldn’t say I’m necessarily advocating to directly make the boss harder, at least compared to its previous difficulty. Im more interested in a diversification of the challenges. The fight is currently two stages; the first is over before anything can reasonably hurt you and the second phase is sleep and hold down attack. I’m all for a more active management of the different threats that CK throws at you rather than just disabling or ignoring them. That probably amounts to a slightly more challenging fight but is also a far more interesting one to me. The fight is really well designed IMO, just needs a few tweaks to make it more engaging and exciting.

[@asepsisaficionado7376]

@@JazzysGames I meant more so that you had even-handed criticisms. Suggestions for improvement that involved making a little beefier in some aspects and easier in others; a stark difference from the old crab king that was universally considered too difficult.

[@JazzysGames]

@@asepsisaficionado7376 Ahh I got u.

[@medicgaming9117]

NEW JAZZY VIDEO!!!

[@link6938]

nice

[@carlos7089]

😮

[@hollowknightenjoyer]

Finally

[@captaincool6785]

true.... just sleeping minions is such a waste of a cool mechanic

[@YoutubeDeletedMyLastNick]

It was ass before, now its bad. So yeah it's better

[@dontstarve5117]

I want new stuff in the game, not remakes of everything =/

[@JazzysGames]

We got lots of that too! New skill trees for two characters, a new boat and two new trees. A new sea mob and tons of new character crafts. Crab King honestly feels like a completely different boss now.

[@dontstarve5117]

@@JazzysGames Yes, but what I really mean is something like a new DLC.

[@thesupreme2]

From bad to boring

[@vondoandantin6573]

Bosses shouldn't be soloable in don't starve TOGETHER.