Is Democracy or Dictatorship better for Pakistan? - Was Musharraf better? Yousuf Nazar -

[@hamzakazmi2204]

Seems like this uncle is one of those who are the reason where the country is.. ‘he knows everything’

[@sarmedahmed9887]

Hahahaha

[@haiderimran8415]

Right

[@Haideralibakhsh]

Well I waste 24 hours but these 34 mints are wrost waste. Just learned it again never sit in a discussion with any uncle. 😂

[@shatnermohanty6678]

21:58 I beg to differ Lot of energy is actually spent towards tackling the Army's interference in government matters Not a single pakistani government has ever completed a full term Atleast allow one decade , two whole terms , of uninterrupted democracy before saying democracy doesn't work

[@imaliazhar]

His argument is the Army is not going anywhere. So let's accept that fact, and remove all hurdles in the Army's way and hope that now the state can focus its energy on fixing the state. But we have done that four times already. The guest just does whataboutism when Shahzad brings it up.

[@shatnermohanty6678]

@imaliazhar but the point is that pakistan cannot be called a functional country because no government completes a full term And the Army plays a big role in this , either through military coups or back door interference . The Army should be doing Army things - not selling Corn flakes or heading Suparco or being in the Board of the Investment Council Indian intelligence agencies are headed by Police officers while ISI is headed by an Army officer . This increases chance of a military coup

[@shatnermohanty6678]

@@imaliazhar I read in news that Lt Gen Muhammad Amir has been designated as pakistan's ambassador to Qatar Aren't there enough foreign service officers that a military officer should be ambassador ?

[@R.kandaswamy]

" If a country has a fascist leader, this is a great horror for that country; but there is much greater horror: The existence of ignorant and unethical masses who support that primitive leader." -Mehmat Murat Ildan

[@pagan-540]

Masha Allah. Very correct observation

[@R.kandaswamy]

@pagan-540 Two leaders come to my mind Tayyab Erdogan of Turkey , Valdamir Putin

[@bilal59446]

He is not pro-dictatorship, he is identifying the problems with Democracy. Democracy works at the expense of the exploitation of someone else.

[@mukeshgourh]

After watching such kind of guest i can guess the reason behind pak situation

[@longlivelogic8128]

Democracy VS Dictatorship in Muslim Countries. Kisse bhi Musalmaan mulk main (jahan amaan aur sakoon hai wahan) haqeeqi jamhooriyaat nahi bulkay haqeeqi amriyaat hai. Kya is baat sai yea sabbit nahi ho jatta kay Pakistan ko bhi democracy ke nahi bulkay eik achi dictatorship ke he zarooraat hai? Ghareeb ko rotti, kappra, makaan aur insaaf chahe yea bus. Jamhooriyaat ho ya amriyaat, is sai koi faarq nahi parta. Waarna har dossra shaaks roz-gaar kay leyea Saudi Arabia, Dubai, Qatar aur China nahi ja raha hotta khushi khushi. Shayad Musalmaan aur Jamhooriyaat eik saath nahi chal saktay. Jahan Islam hai wahan Amriyaat zaroori hai. Kya khiyaal hai? Sochain zara. Siyasaat sai pehlay Riyasaat. PAKISTAN ZINDABAAD!!! PAK FAUJ ZINDABAAD!!! ☝🏼⚔️🦁💚🇵🇰💚🦁⚔️✊🏼

[@longlivelogic8128]

*کیا فاسق وفاجر اور ظالم وجابر حکمران کی اطاعت مسلمانوں پر واجب ہے؟* قسط: 1️⃣ 🇵🇰🇸🇦 بقلم طالب الجامعة الإسلامية بالمدينة المنورة، المملكة العربية السعودية. 🇵🇰🇸🇦 *أبو القاسم فائق ذو الفقار الحنبلي...* ---------------------------------- الحمد لله رب العالمين والصلاة والسلام على نبينا محمد وعلى آله وأصحابه أجمعين أما بعد: فاسق وفاجر اور ظالم وجابر مسلمان حکمران کی اطاعت کی فرضیت ایک ایسا امر ہے جو اہل السنہ والجماعۃ کے اصل اصول میں سے گردانا جاتا ہے، اور یہی وہ اصول ہے جس میں اہل سنت مکمل طور پر اہل بدعت سے ممتاز نظر آتے ہیں، اور اسلام کے لازمی ارکان میں سے ایک یہ ہے کہ اجتماعیت کے بغیر کوئی دین نہیں ہے، اور امامت کے بغیر کوئی اجتماعیت نہیں ہے اور سمع واطاعت کے بغیر کوئی امامت نہیں ہے، اور جب جہالت عام ہو جاتی ہے اور اہل السنۃ کے عقائد پر افکار منحرفہ کی دھول جمع ہونا شروع ہوجاتی ہے تو ایسے وقت میں ان کا اس بنیادی اصول سے تمسک اور زیادہ مضبوط ہوجاتا ہے، اور یہ اس کا اور بھی زیادہ خیال رکھتے ہیں۔ اس موضوع کی اپنی جگہ بڑی اہمیت ہے لوگوں کی اس بارے میں حاجت کے پیش نظر خصوصاً اس زمانے میں جس میں آپ پر مخفی نہیں کہ لوگوں کی حالت کیا ہے الا من رحم اللہ۔ اور یہ ملک ( بلاد التوحيد ) الحمدللہ اب تک خیر میں ہے، اب تک اللہ تعالی کی نعمت کے سایے میں ہے، اللہ تعالی سے دعا ہے کہ وہ اسے قائم دائم رکھے اور اس کا ہم پر اور آپ سب پر اتمام فرمائے، اور ہر جگہ مسلمانوں کے احوال کی درستگی فرمادے، اور دشمنان دین اور مسلمانوں کے بارے میں گردش ایام کے منتظر لوگوں کی کمر توڑکر کے رسوا فرمائے۔ اس لئے اس مسئلے کی اہمیت کو اجاگر کرنے کے لئے میں قارئیں کرام کے لئے قسطوں کی شکل میں اس موضوع کو ترتیب دے رہا ہوں جس میں فاسق وفاجر اور ظالم وجابر مسلمان حکمران کی اطاعت وفرمانبرداری کی اہمیت خوب واضح کی گئی ہے۔ ہماری اللہ سے دعا ہے کہ اللہ اسے قارئین کے لئے فائدہ مند بنائے، اور اسے اپنی رضا کے لئے خالص کرے۔ قرآن کریم سے دلائل: يَاأَيُّهَا الَّذِينَ آمَنُوا أَطِيعُوا اللَّـهَ وَأَطِيعُوا الرَّسُولَ وَأُولِي الْأَمْرِ مِنكُمْ ۖ فَإِن تَنَازَعْتُمْ فِي شَيْءٍ فَرُدُّوهُ إِلَى اللَّـهِ وَالرَّسُولِ إِن كُنتُمْ تُؤْمِنُونَ بِاللَّـهِ وَالْيَوْمِ الْآخِرِ ۚ ذَٰلِكَ خَيْرٌ وَأَحْسَنُ تَأْوِيلًا " اے ایمان والو! فرمانبرداری کرو اللہ تعالیٰ کی اور فرمانبرداری کرو رسول (صلی اللہ علیہ وسلم) کی اور تم میں سے اختیار والوں (حاکم) کی۔ پھر اگر کسی چیز میں اختلاف کرو تو اسے لوٹاؤ، اللہ تعالیٰ کی طرف اور رسول کی طرف، اگر تمہیں اللہ تعالیٰ پر اور قیامت کے دن پر ایمان ہے۔ یہ بہت بہتر ہے اور باعتبار انجام کے بہت اچھا ہے۔ (سورۃ : النساء، آیت نمبر 59) اس آیت میں حکام وقت کی اطاعت کی فرضیت کا بیان ہے. اب سوال یہ پیدا ہو رہا ہے کہ اگر حاکم فاسق وفاجر اور ظالم وجابر ہو تو کیا تب بھی اس کی اطاعت کی جاۓ گی؟ جى ہاں اگر مسلمان حاکم فاسق وفاجر اور ظالم وجابر ہو تب بھی اس کی اطاعت کی جاۓ گی. اس بات کی وضاحت صحیح مسلم کی اس روایت سے ہوتی ہے: سیدنا خذیفہ بن الیمان رضی اللہ عنہ سے روایت ہے، میں نے عرض کیا: یا رسول اللہ! ہم برائی میں تھے پھر اللہ نے بھلائی دی، اب اس کے بعد بھی کچھ برائی ہے؟ آپ صلی اللہ علیہ وسلم نے فرمایا: ”ہاں۔“ میں نے کہا: پھر اس کے بعد بھلائی ہے؟ آپ صلی اللہ علیہ وسلم نے فرمایا: ”ہاں۔“ میں نے کہا: پھر اس کے بعد برائی ہے؟ آپ صلی اللہ علیہ وسلم نے فرمایا: ”ہاں۔“ میں نے کہا: کیسے؟ آپ صلی اللہ علیہ وسلم نے فرمایا: " يكون بعدي ائمة لا يهتدون بهداي، ولا يستنون بسنتي، وسيقوم فيهم رجال قلوبهم قلوب الشياطين في جثمان إنس " ”میرے بعد وہ لوگ حاکم ہوں گے جو نہ تو میری سنت پر چلیں گے اور نہ میرے طریقے کی پیروی کریں گے ان میں ایسے لوگ پیدا ہوں گے جن کے جسم انسانوں کے ہوں گے اور دل شیطان کے ۔“ میں نے عرض کیا: " كيف اصنع يا رسول الله، إن ادركت ذلك؟ " " اے اللہ کے رسول! اگر میں ایسے لوگوں کو پالوں تو کیا کروں؟ آپ صلی اللہ علیہ وسلم نے فرمایا: " تسمع وتطيع للأمير، وإن ضرب ظهرك، وأخذ مالك فاسمع وأطع " " حاکم وقت کی سنو اور اس کی اطاعت کرو، اگرچہ تمہاری پیٹھ پر مارے اور تمہارا سارا مال تم سے چھین لے۔ پس سنو اور اطاعت کرو ۔" (صحیح مسلم: 1847)۔ واللہ اعلم.

[@payne5868]

Uncle ka basically argument ye ha k dictatorship ly aow 100 sal k liye....

[@cs6-n3p]

Hum dictatorship ko mazeed nahi bardasht karenge. Soon we are gonna end it.

[@shatnermohanty6678]

2:46 Shahrukh Khan has more wealth than some pakistani banks 😂

[@ahaanmisra4892]

Though clearly Mr PV Narasimha Rao ran the drivers of change but if he didn't have the infrastructure of quality educated population then I don't feel that even Manmohan Singh could have effected the changes so easily!!

[@shatnermohanty6678]

Biggest reason was India's Big Brother Soviet union was about to collapse Earlier Soviet union would help us out But this time we had to take decisions ourselves because there was no one to help us

[@naveenyadav8839]

Good video

[@ThePakistanExperience]

🙌

[@umayr2935]

5:00 'True, unfortunately most of the intellectual circles have forgotten now that the transition towards a modern developed country has always been an authoritarian one in all places around the world. Only after that transition, have democracies worked. Even the Marxist left until recently was very skeptical of democracy and very open in acknowledging that the initial transition can never be achieved through a democracy, because democracies never work alongside poverty capitalism and conservative ideas, that is why you see them justifying stalin, mao, and castro, which again is because they had to industrialize, not shoq se, but out of compulsion because in those days if any country did not induatrialize, it would have been colonized or destroyed'

[@huzefahabib1137]

Excellent discussion boss😅 Maza ayaa

[@ThePakistanExperience]

🙌

[@ssahu6657]

Dictatorship is better than democracy for economic prosperity.Bangladesh achieved tremendous progress during the one party rule of Seikh Hasina Wajed.

[@shatnermohanty6678]

North Korea ?

[@codifa5847]

Your India is already following that. Plus dictatorship is better if that person isn't selfish or corrupt

[@shatnermohanty6678]

@@codifa5847 following what ?

[@codifa5847]

@@shatnermohanty6678 India following dictatorship just like Pakistan, china, Bangladesh,

[@shatnermohanty6678]

@@codifa5847 how? Elections are being held regularly And BJP , Congress and other parties lose elections and also win elections

[@CinemaCut-n2e]

Nice sounds

[@usazar]

Narsimha Rao is the best leader with Manmohan Singh in the subcontinent.

[@azeemkhan6252]

Classic chitrol of our wanna be democracy guy 😂😂

[@Esra21902]

I appreciate

[@ThePakistanExperience]

🙌

[@Jalalkhan12ii]

Educate the people and then apply democracy without that democracy is blind and handicapped

[@umeshnaidu]

Shahzad even a reasonable person like Yousuf Nazar is exasperated and is giving up on Pakistan.... The worrying part is he too is not able to put forward a set of priorities for the nation ...😮

[@Engineers2]

15:24 I know what guest is saying, Pakistan is transitioning democracy as Kakar pm said. Idea spread by boys k jasy hamain khuch na bolain abhi democracy ai nhi any wali hy. Ayub khan ideology k abhi basic democracy lo beta

[@anaskhalil2087]

I am totally with shehzad ghiyas on this.... Military and technocrat/expert system has been implemented over and over and again.... just because you didnt like those people doesnt mean you need to keep pushing and repeating the same failed thing The only thing that is yet to be tested in pakistan is democracy... absolutely free of military control and manipulation.... That has never been tested, and to dismiss this based on hybrid puppet governments of bhutto, nawaz and imran is not fair at all. Give democracy a fair run.... and we will see what it will produce.

[@abdussattar4574]

Guest is very rude..conversation confusing

[@ahaanmisra4892]

Your guest is making a great case but I am truly divided between your and his arguments...what I seem to draw out of the entire podcast is that to try a new approach one should create an amalgamation of your and his views!! Get a set of experts and then cross your fingers 🤞

[@shitalsalve6591]

Bangladesh agala pakisthan bananey ja raha hai. Best of luck both of you Pakistan and Bangladeshi

[@beeliciousvardhan]

A country which has still not been able to fix it’s taxation system & depends on its army for solving all it’s problems is a certainly a doomed state

[@MuhammadAwais-l8e]

One Podcast with Hafiz Saad Hussain Rizvi

[@rohanrajput_9]

Uske baad koi achi si glue bhi dedena 'sar' aur 'tan' ko wapis jorne kelie

[@asimashraf4932]

@@rohanrajput_9 nice one.

[@sasif89]

​@@rohanrajput_9 😂😂😂

[@MunnaMobile000]

Albaik Albaik Albaik Fried Chicken Kha!

[@ozymandias8988]

He is talking about assembling a team of aristocrats to run the country. How long would it take for those aristocrats to turn into oligarchs in a society where Nepotism is the way of life?

[@globalsensemovement1022]

Podcast with Saad Rizvi please

[@hassancheema2268]

chef ko undue hate mil rha he for this clip, but, looking at the full podcast and thinking about it, devolution is inherently democratic and democratizing

[@hassancheema2268]

chhubnay wali baat kr rha he na

[@CrimsonRed09]

Banker Babus should stay at banks, Man kept asking for 1 min all the time while speaking.

[@DASTANGO]

Ghoom ghoom k aik hee baat horahee hai. Voh suj hee nahij rahay.

[@Dr-X9]

Iss chachay me bilkul sabar nahi hai !

[@HashimAtif-x9w]

Shehzad I think chief of army staff gen asim munir should rule Pakistan and maybe he can restore good relations with India

[@Engineers2]

Shehzad ko manipulate karna mushkil hy boss

[@shahmirjalal_999]

I think Pakistan can't have democracy and can't really survive with it. Establishment is a permanent part of Pakistan and we need to move along with it in order to progress. Unexperienced politicians are a true thing. We don't have time to wait for one so we have to move along with what we have and make that bond better by good understanding and teamwork. Pakistan can't have democracy and I think it's for good.

[@huzefahabib1137]

Exactly. But political parties backstab other parties again and again. That's what Imran Khan and his party did. Made good relations with the army at the expense of calling all other politicians thieves chor and whatnot. Then came PDM, trying to please the army and not leaving any room for political discussion because, its counterpart, PTI, is also trying to settle a deal with army. So, in order to grow together, there has to be a common point for all the political parties on which they can agree on And then, working with the establishment can become a way forward.. Wrna army sab ko lraati rhy gi or khud mzy kry gi

[@shahmirjalal_999]

@huzefahabib1137 Yes I agree. The Army can't rule officially since it is not appricated globally so the army has to work along with these clowns in order to get along with today's world. If military rule was not taken negatively by the world then this country would have been in military rule but just because a dictatorship can't work independently along with other nations, the army has to forcefully work with these failed politicians. There's no other option because handing over a country to these foolish politicians is like giving Dimond to a monkey.

[@osamaanees8406]

Brain Rot Brain. We do have time. All countries that right now are developed took more than 100+ years to stabilize. Pakistan is a young country. If given enough time to democracy only then it can grow. Growth comes out with the biggest change.

[@veenjharmemon8097]

logo change kardiya but actually the crappy set/background needs to be changed

[@althafmohamad7315]

Establishment voice

[@manojkumarmishra748]

Shehzad, do you want your guest should sing in your tune. Guest should be let free to express.

[@ThePakistanExperience]

Mai kaunsa guests Kay Mun par kapra band deta hoon

[@tigernishanth]

My perception was guest was given a lot of leeway. He kept saying, "Let me finish and did not give any thought-provoking argument

[@rememberme12356]

Duffer Army uncles and their logic

[@bakuldada7838]

Koi bhi ho.. jyaada mussalmaan ho

[@osamaanees8406]

Uncle je Pakistan mein history deakhin to Army ny Mulk tora hoa hai. Ajeeb pagl banda hai. He cant understand what democracy even is. Its an evolution. It improves over time.

[@MuhammadAwais-l8e]

Don't take TLP lightly😎

[@AmeerHamza-tu7dx]

TLP KO TUMHARE BAAP establishment NI Banaya.Agar Deen ki liye Kar rahe the Tu Faizabad dharni mein Paise Ku le rage the?Tum logo KO Istemal Kia Gaya Jaise Pakhtoonkhwa mein Dollars ki liye LOOGO KO Istemal Kia gaya

[@fawadshah5852]

Utter woke nonsense”-Sean Dyche

[@ThePakistanExperience]

🤣

[@EforrEgo]

Bro, I don't want you in Pakistan 😂. Try to understand my innate meaning. 😂 You people, I mean the common people, think that one messaiah come and save the mulk. Your caption itself says Musharraf.

[@MuhammadAwais-l8e]

Last hope TLP Saad Hussain Rizvi Second Most Popular Leader in Pakistan Alhamdulilah

[@codifa5847]

Imran 2.0😂

[@osamakhan3665]

wasted my time

[@AHRPH]

Waste of time, wrong number guest.

[@AminAliShah-sl3gd]

Shahzad this is not the full vedio but frankly yar it is one of the worst vedio in your channel.... You always do extra ordinary work by callimng brillant minds but I was not able to understand your guest Point of view? what is the actual problem of pakistan? still this guy is unaware of this... after listening this the argument can be made like this. 'we have to run our country like monarch where government do nlt chaange . because election waste time, resources etc ... I think this guy does nlt know any thing about evolution of democrasy

[@ThePakistanExperience]

Democracy vs Dictatorship Debate - Yousuf Nazar on why Pakistan needs a Gov of Experts - #TPE 403 kzbin.info/www/bejne/m3mpfZRugdCaaLc This is the full video

[@aatifhusain1419]

Their has never been democracy in islamic republic of pakistan only army rule 😂😂😂

[@FkuIlu]

Because not a single islamic nation is democratic Islam only allowed kalifa

[@JaysaiDeepak]

Bhai bura mat manna, apke vahaa army democracy hai, jo pakistan ka sabse bada problem hai. Apke jo bade PM,vazir ko ilect nahi select kiya jata hai. Jo direct democracy ko chailenge karta hai.

[@arjunpatil9685]

Yaar kya tum log digitization, economy, system, Cambridge ke chakkar mein pade ho. You have such a robust system of Education Minister - Hafeez Sayed Principal - Azar Masood Prestigious Universities like 1. LeT 2. Hizbul mujahidin 3. Harkat ul Mujahidin 4. Harkat ul Andar 5. JeM 6. Al Badr 7. ISKP 8. Al Qaeda 9. ISTP Additional many high schools and schools 😂😂😂😂😂