Is Germany still attractive for skilled workers? | DW News

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According to a new report from the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development (OECD), Germany remains a top destination for skilled workers from abroad, despite many reporting racism and discrimination in everyday life. Thomas Liebig, a migration expert with the OECD, explains the results.
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[@SRSR-pc8ti]

Lived and worked in Germany for 24 years and counting. My Asian family has experienced mild discrimination occasionally but overall Germany has provided education for my kids, apprenticeships and now well paid jobs. Its not perfect- nowhere is - but workers have protections, sick pay, public healthcare works more or less and 6 weeks annual holiday. Overall I'm pretty happy to be here.

[@Cordycep1]

Prejudice is everywhere so it is normal.

[@gluteusmaximus1657]

I am sorry for your experience. Some Germans never change. Even mild discrimination is wrong. We are all the same. Thank you for your positive attitude.

[@Penny-mk7fv]

Ironically the immigrants in Austria are pretty unfriendly to foreigners I’ve found, the Austrians are fine though 😂

[@simba8665]

@@Penny-mk7fv Canada is way easier to integrate. But salaries are quite low compared to living expenses and hard to find accommodation

[@Penny-mk7fv]

@@simba8665 most of the immigrants in BC are not economic immigrants but are highly educated and are fleeing corrupt regimes or are there for education I think. Austria and Germany it’s just about money, and the immigrants don’t like competition. I think that’s why Canada is fine.

[@ghosthunter9897]

Germany doesn’t need skilled workers, Germany needs low paid workers.

[@aliancemd]

Worked with Germany and Ireland in software development. The Germans tended to discriminate but had trust we’ll do the job(they usually did mostly management and we did all the research and development). The Irish discriminated even more but also didn’t trust our teams, even though we consistently delivered the best quality in the entire project(all senior engineers in our team while they tended to hire juniors). I am trying to say that it’s not unique to Germany.

[@ChakokkNo]

Both discriminate

[@val-schaeffer1117]

Irish discriminated even more? Rank whatabouterry, in fact unfounded. Irish people are known to be far more friendly.

[@MSportsEngineering]

Germany says it wants skilled workers then does absolutely nothing sbout it. Horrible visa process. Low wages. No digitalization. Must call everyone on the phone and they only speak German.

[@meetimian3383]

True

[@meetimian3383]

High taxes as well

[@MSportsEngineering]

@@meetimian3383 good addition. Tax for those most likely to move as a skilled worker is 46% of salary but then 19% tax on just about everything else. So if the salary is 70 000 EUR, take home is 44 800 EUR, and effective purchasing power excluding non-tax items like rent is 36 300 EUR. Unbelievable.

[@MSportsEngineering]

@@SimpleEnglishMastery yes. Single person tax rate is 46%. Pre-tax health insurance is 14%, so it's actually worse. Yes, insurance is far from free here! 70K x (1-0.14) = 60.2K. 60.2K x (1-0.46) = 38.5K. So take home is 38.5K, and that does not include sales tax on anything purchased. Say rent is 1K, that leaves 26.5K. Almost all that 26.5K would purchase things with sales tax (of 19%), so 26.5K x (1-0.19) = 21.5K for everything else. Absolutely garbage income.

[@ap46723]

In the real life they don't want skilled workers from abroad at all, because these workers don't have the same papers, german experience etc. And that is not normal for them, so it makes a lot of problems, exceptions, their IT systems can't handle it by recruiting so they don't want that.

[@user-ri4gq3vb9x]

I know Germany has it's drawbacks, but living as an international student it hasn't been easy I studied the language, had good grades, now I m able to help my family back home. All I can say Germany gave me the opportunity my country could not and I am very grateful for that. Glück auf

[@val-schaeffer1117]

5th grade citizen status in Germany being better than normal life in your homeland, does not disprove the allegation of discrimination. In fact, it proves it.

[@user-jf9ev1hm2v]

@@val-schaeffer1117 Do you like the boot plain or with gravy?

[@val-schaeffer1117]

@@user-jf9ev1hm2v The boot is on the other foot. Arier Dominanz almost vorbei.

[@Flavio010295]

I'm not leaving my country to become a second-tier citizen in another country full of entitled people.

[@nataliac7716]

Yasss

[@fairuzmaileen5691]

Good for you, that you can stay

[@vendettadz9292]

Before calling people to be slave... Solve discrimination in your society.. Its horrible

[@user-bq5hl2mn4z]

It’s not just racism. German bureaucracy is ridiculously complex, but perhaps even more off-putting is how closed-minded and resistant Germans often are to any sort of change. Try working in any industry or institution and you will be surrounded by “Das geht doch nicht”, That’s not possible, “Das machen wir nicht hier” we don’t do that here. I have worked in Universities in Britain and in Germany, and here I am surrounded by incompetence, nepotism, and dysfunctionality, far, far worse than in Britain. Professors have complete power over other academics, they can’t be sacked, even if they don’t turn up, this often (not always) encourages complacency and inefficiency. Professors are often very poorly educated outside a very narrow range, they are afraid of foreign competition so rarely appoint foreigners to any significant positions for fear of it revealing their own mediocrity. The rest of the academic staff have to dance to the professors’ tune, which serves universities very badly here. Just look at the international university ratings - 1 German university in the top 50 vs 12 British, and plenty more American. Foreign friends of mine complain that the various institutions and industries they work in are just as atrophied and incompetent. The chances of foreigner workers being promoted to senior positions is very low. Plus you have to put up with petty moodiness and sourness - a very German trait. Topping them all is the know-it-all (Besserwisser) attitude. Are there nice, efficient, warm Germans? Of course - many, but sometimes in the public or work sphere it is very hard to find them.

[@coffeenorth]

I do agree with some of your points but you sound overall really negative and if that's the starting point you will of course find more and more negative aspects for the collection. I have a lot of international friends in Germany and the feedback includes all kinds of different POV. Why is it so common particularly among Germans to completely bash their own country? Criticism is valid but there is also plenty of positive aspects.

[@yurigansmith]

@@coffeenorth Absolutely. The climate for example. It's not too hot, and relatively humid.

[@2msvalkyrie529]

So, it was better in the country you actually came from ?? If not , why complain..?

[@ydcjydcj1724]

I knew it. Someone will be interviewed whose name is Nguyen.

[@robelhaile4478]

😂😂😂

[@rollingdownfalling]

You reminded me of Mailab. She said no one knows how to pronounce my name, then she explained it is like Nürn in Nürnberg.

[@noezyks6652]

Theyre eveywere!I prefer them over other asian ethnicity.

[@rollingdownfalling]

@@noezyks6652 I guess I am encountering racism now.

[@d.b.2215]

​@@rollingdownfallingthe real pronunciation of Nguyễn is quite far from Nürn, but it's impossible for Germans to get it right

[@GKP999]

I spent two months in Berlin last year. While some people were helpful and nice, I found many people unfriendly and sour.

[@mikethespike7579]

I live in Berlin, the city is not really Germany. And Berliners have a reputation across Germany of being a bit gruff, saying their mind and not mincing their words. That might come over as unfriendly, maybe even a bit impolite to foreigners, but in reality they are only being genuine. They also keep strangers at a distance until they know them better, but once you've won them over they're your friend for life.

[@LeegallyBliindLOL]

Bruh, Germans avoid Berlin, what did you expect xD

[@MrElmag12]

Berlin is not Germany 😅

[@mikethespike7579]

@@LeegallyBliindLOL I wish Germans would avoid Berlin. Thing is though, the city seems to attract people from all walks of life from all over the world. It's getting crowded.

[@mikethespike7579]

@@MrElmag12 When I'm out shopping I hear people around me speaking about 10 different languages. In some bars only English is spoken. Some bar tenders can't even speak German. I was at the dentist yesterday and the stand-in dentist asked me to speak English because his German is still not good. You won't get that anywhere else in Germany.

[@Derestricted1]

We need more awareness about the differences between illegal, and legal immigration because they seem to get mixed up together and are significantly different. There should be a clearer focus on actively encouraging legal immigration of skilled workers, whilst doing far more to discourage illegal immigration of unskilled workers. The former strengthens the country, the latter weakens it. As a British / Irish immigrant in Germany it has been a great place to move, raise kids and start a company, but I struggle to find enough local talent, and also strugle under the huge amount of taxes I have to pay. On balance, out of the 8 countries I have lived, it's one of the best overall but the trajectory at the moment doesnt seem positive.

[@lusolanga8423]

The problem is that all types of immigrants, legal or illegal experience discrimination, racism and other aggression towards them. Unfortunately, even if all immigrants were legal, the hostile attitude would remain.

[@thorwaldjohanson2526]

​@@lusolanga8423I disagree. While you won't be able to get rid of prejudice completely, there are also reasons they exist. And it's usually from the unskilled illegal immigrants. If only legal immigrants who immediately become contributing members to society were to come in, attitudes would definitely change over the years.

[@klausschumacher7126]

What is illegal immigrants meaning??? Every person who comes to a country and asks for asylum is a legal immigrant. As soon as it is approved the person can live legally in the country....if rejected he must leave.. I am fed up with the right wing media calling immigrants illegal before they have cleared the status. If they come with small boats to the UK there is no law that it's forbidden to do so. They should implement a law that no boat can come to the country in the same way as North Korea is doing..... They don't have illegal or legal immigrants....😂

[@lusolanga8423]

@@thorwaldjohanson2526 You are wrong and clearly out of touch with the experiences of immigrants, legal or illegal. Saying illegal or legal justifies hostile actions, but the truth is that they don't like 'the other', whatever their immigration status. If all the "illegal immigrants" leave, the legal, highly skilled ones will become even more of a new target of aggression, racism and violence. There's always a scapegoat group to blame for all the ills of a society.

[@bookinsights1092]

Doesn't matter whether legal or illegal - both destroy the nation in the long-term.

[@lhmsc]

German society as a whole need to rethink how they do things, it's not just up to the government. Doesn't matter how much easier the government tries to make it. People still won't come if companies refuse to speak English, if there's so much suffocating bureaucracy, if there's no housing available (or lower priority for foreigners), if you can't get a barely functional internet connection even living in the city center, if you have to beg to make German friends, if there's discrimination and distrust towards foreigners (yes, in every company I worked it took months for the Germans to trust me, even though I was doing my job perfectly fine and better than most from the beginning, while other foreigners quickly acknowledged my skills), if it's so hard to get a doctor appointment. Then you see how much you're paying in taxes and question yourself if it's worth it to go through all this.

[@param888]

check the law, German govt is free to spy on your phone's, internet emails etc if they have only suspicion on you. I don't remember clause number but it is. so what is the criteria on being suspicious??? well as easy as you are non native German and your neighbour or jealous colleagues just made a call to authorities crying and sobbing and suspecting you as a anti German and entire bureaucracy, your life in Germany , from internet speed to heating to social help such getting lawyers everything will be nightmare, and these sick bastards are proud of themselves over such behaviour.

[@Talkshit3281]

I agree with you the German people need to be a little bit relaxed and give in English a chance in their society and economy if they’re counting on foreigners for faster economic growth

[@Lukas-yi9vv]

As a German I have to admit that you are right here. The thing is Germany needs skilled migration but the infrastructure (health system, housing etc) is already under pressure. My girlfriend is from the Philippines, she works in nursing. She only has foreign friends besides me. And for her the US would be way easier given that everyone in the Philippines is fluent in English. She also complains about taxation and bureaucracy.

[@blackbird7842]

So true! To be honest, it's not worth it.

[@Talkshit3281]

@@Lukas-yi9vv that is Germany and it’s very bad one can lost his life when feel rejected or manipulated it’s really a bad situation.

[@flybutterfly4636]

I came to Germany to work AS a nurse. It has been the closest I have ever been to slavery. I am 42 yo

[@Fleetfoot]

if nursing was a good profession in germany don't you think germans would do it themselves?

[@val-schaeffer1117]

@@Fleetfoot So basically foreigners are for jobs and neighbourhoods refused by locals. Generation after generation.

[@wrestlingterrier8366]

A Nurse from Spain, told me the same thing. Despite wages being a bit higher in Germany, she ended up moving back to Spain.

[@val-schaeffer1117]

@@wrestlingterrier8366 Salary in Germany might be little higher but costs are much higher as well. So on PPP scale, Germany is actually worse. Especially asset prices are so high, even highly skilled workers end up affording only a single apartment in their entire lifetime.

[@wrestlingterrier8366]

@@val-schaeffer1117 I think the situation is similar in the Netherlands and much of Europe.

[@RamakrushnaSwain]

Only if this country cared a bit more for those who are already working here, it would do a world of good for this struggling mammoth.

[@user-1rg9f2-g3l6d]

They already do: the government provides very generous state benefits for its residents.

[@RamakrushnaSwain]

@@user-1rg9f2-g3l6d If that were the case, the country would not be in such a situation. As someone staying here for the last 3 years, unfortunately, I still feel quite unwelcome here. Be it in the professional space or private.

[@AiRPasternak]

If that was the case the AFD wouldn't be second in the polls 😂

[@RamakrushnaSwain]

@@riturajborah382 Nope. I guess the issue here is how foreign workers feel about being in Germany.

[@RamakrushnaSwain]

@@AiRPasternak To be honest, non-AFD parties haven't been able to do much to make the situation better. I guess politics is irrelevant here.

[@rabask9226]

The country is not open and the society is not welcoming. Do not lie to people abroad.

[@drallagon]

I remember hearing that after decades the Goethe Institute in my hometown in Brazil was closing its doors, so I guess that wasn't only there where this is happening.

[@edw.y2451]

Don't forget that lots of people come to Germany and leave after 1 year or 2 years. That's also a fact.

[@meetimian3383]

Is this because of super high taxes??

[@merchantgold6327]

​@@meetimian3383 not just that, it's just the general vibe. Germany doesn't like foreigners, you'll always somehow be reminded of your place. To top it off you'll earn very meagre salaries which will be insanely taxed. You'll be lucky to save up anything, let alone send to your family back home

[@nataliac7716]

True. I am entering my third year here, and i’m considering leaving 😅😢

[@lilli798]

​@@nataliac7716why are you considering leaving?

[@tatjana7008]

@@nataliac7716 My korean friend considered to leave on his first day here. His opinion still didn't change, despite all k-boos running after him. And people treat him more nicely than me, since he has American accent. Even obligation of serving in military is less scary for him than staying whole life in Germany

[@ANTheWhizkid]

All people are equal and welcome, no question, but people in Germany seem so tight on their money that nobody can make big leaps… instead of paying people more to make jobs attractive, Germany rather looks for policies to get workforce in, that has not as high expectations regarding salary and work place conditions as the people being there already. Does that make sense?

[@j.erickson8571]

Every country in the world needs to attract talent at attractive rates. The US has the H1B visa for that purpose. There is nothing particular about Germany. As an employer, you want young professionals who want to grow with the company.

[@simba8665]

@@j.erickson8571 yeah but not every country is worth wasting my youth on. I moved to Canada, even though cost of is quite high compared to salaries, I do enjoy my life overall. I’m African, and feel very included in many aspects of the culture here. Canadians are quite friendly and employers will give back respect

[@j.erickson8571]

@@simba8665 Yes, Canada is also a great country. But Germany is way better. I am delighted that I managed to live here in Germany. Only some things are about money or costs. Nothing compares to Europe's architecture. Everything you see here has hundreds of years. It adds a nice feeling to it.

[@simba8665]

@@j.erickson8571 I appreciate your take, you probably know better than majority of people on these comments who don’t have 1st hand experience. I actually do think Germany might have better health systems and work-life balance for employees compared to Canada. What they need is better migration systems. And digitizing things instead of involving too much paperwork in simple things.

[@val-schaeffer1117]

Well they throttle the Ausländer. Money is flowing in 100% ethnic German management level.

[@lenzp4133]

restaurant and service workers, sure.. i myself worked as a chef here for about 5 years, and the sector is insanely toxic. not racist, but insanely old fashioned in terms of unpaid overtime, no bonus pay whatsoever, and in general just modern slavery. that being said, everything is preferrable to being bombed i guess. besides that, germany has the second highest tax burden in the whole of the eu.. if u can go somewhere else. not even locals with proper training can afford property. wouldnt recommend.

[@bartmannn6717]

I think Germany has the same Catch 22 problem like most other countries: If you want to get a working visa, you need an invitation to work from a local company. But all local companies want you to have a working visa first, in order to work for them.

[@ap46723]

@@madapro03 we have found long staying appartement hotels , in which you can register, as "home". Then you can open a bank account and make a work contract. But the negative intention is given by the whole mechanism: "Don't come here" (or just as a nurse to care the elderly)

[@val-schaeffer1117]

That is NOT this video is about. The video is about racism and hostilities. Not chicken / egg Visa situation.

[@EdwardPike]

German job ads for programmers too often demand cs degrees and fluent german language but pay poorly. In USA degrees matter far less than skill. But there are many good things about germany.

[@j.erickson8571]

Poorly? In a median of 100K, is it poor for you? Excuse us, Lord Edward, that we don't meet your standards.

[@icu17siberia]

I'm curious...whats considered a good salary in Germany? I truly don't know.

[@icu17siberia]

I think of those as qualifications. Either one is or one isn't.

[@EdwardPike]

Im saying that they want a nongerman to be a good programmer, have a cs degree, and speak fluent german and they want to pay not very much for all that. In the USA we reward talent first, then maybe a degree, maybe in cs and we are lucky that most everybody knows english. Very few ppl know german outside germany My youngest kids took german through high school, had a german nanny when they were toddlers, take german in college, took german lang classes in munich for 4 weeks this summer and they still dont know it well enough to go to college there. My older daughter has lived there for 3 years total and is still maybe b2. Her husband is a programmer but he works for an american company remote and speaks no german. I want germany to be a strong modern economy but german employers and until recently the govt are not flexible enough or realistic about their situation.

[@jusebacho]

In US you also need the languages

[@RsD996]

Racism and discrimination is only part of the issue. I wouldn't leave my home country to germany if i had a stable life and enough income to live. Nowadays, you struggle to get anything in Germany, including housing, proper healthcare, nurseries etc. After paying your bills and the extremely high taxes, you will mostly end up with nothing to take back home.

[@asfundyarkhan2425]

100% agreed

[@mikethespike7579]

"...you struggle to get anything in Germany, including housing, proper healthcare, nurseries etc. " Utter rubbish. I doubt there's anywhere easier than Germany to find housing, "proper" health care and day-care for young children. It's all anchored in law, everyone has a right to all that. And if you think German income tax is high you must be on a high enough wage anyway to take back home a lot of money.

[@LeegallyBliindLOL]

​​@@mikethespike7579All of Scandinavia is cheaper in housing. I can literally buy a house in my home town in Danmark for €50k, but in Germany it pretty much starts at €250-350k Also, I doubt you're German or live in Germany if you don't think Germany has a housing crisis xd

[@mikethespike7579]

@@LeegallyBliindLOL I've just checked out of my window. Yep I'm still in Berlin, Neuwestend, Charlottenburg, about a mile from the Olympic Stadium. Sure, Scandinavian countries have cheap housing, usually in the sticks somewhere and made of cheap pine. Lots of pine trees in Scandinavia and lots of wood mills to turn that all into building material (I lived in Norway for 3 years). I noticed that more than an average number of houses were in ruin because of fires. But for that everything that just smacks of a bit of luxury is heavily taxed. My kids stopped eating sweets because it was 3 times as expensive as in Norway. Want to go out to eat? Forget it unless you plan on taking out a bank credit. Here in Germany in the Baltic ports we see ferries arriving full of Swedes and Norwegians. They're going shopping in Germany because it's far cheaper here. You can watch them boarding the next ferry home heavily stocked up with booze and other stuff. Forget your cheap housing if for that the state milks you of your hard earned money.

[@LeegallyBliindLOL]

@@mikethespike7579 Die reale Kaufkraft ist in Dänemark höher. Du kannst nicht dein Gehalt mit dem eines Dänen vergleichen. Ja, die kommen über die Grenzen, weil's billiger ist, genauso wie die Ostdeutschen mit Tschechien oder Polen. Ja, Deutschland ist relativ billig, wenn das Wohnen nicht so unglaublich teuer wäre. Wir haben nicht ohne Grund den niedrigste Hauseigentümersatz in ganz Europa und ja, in der Pampe in Dänemark ist es billig, aber auch in den Metropolen sind die Renten in absoluten, nicht nur relativen, Werten, weitaus billiger. Ich kann in Århus für 300€ eine Wohnung mieten. In Hannover? Ja, komm, lass stecken, dabei ist Hannover nicht einmal eine der teuersten Ecken.

[@andyberberian4886]

As someone that married a German and has been trying to integrate its mostly the system. I have faced very little racism from Germans. Its mostly just the system that makes you feel rejected. I studied in a very good Highschool, taking all possible extra classes, including first aid, psychology and world religions. However I didn't take enough foreign language courses. So Germany says I am a Middle school dropout. And Germany's school system is so elitist that the moment you are not "university material" you are a dum dum that maybe might make it as a cook, warehouse worker, driver or whatever job the general German culture doesn't want to have. Germany is great if you want to live in a place with less crime, (though its getting bad, I have bad experiences in Koln) and with a basic salary and medical care. But the odds of you rising up above the path that the German government assigns to you are so so so low. If you are a visionary don't come to Germany...

[@ivianivanov2260]

Thank you, an extremely educated comment, - `the system`

[@krotensnabelbird4837]

nothing you can´t fix i guess , in germany its not about the indivudal no one got time to dive deep into a case , but i know one thing for sure you can throw legal objections against anything in germany if you cant have it the casual way, you need to find a law to make it so , there are plenty of laws you can use to your advantage you just need to find it or pay someone to find it , one thing you didnt think about there are many people like you who come to our country and germans love to see someone to make an afford above the requiements thats how germans got the steriotype of hardworking people , i dont say its okay but its just the way it is dont give up so easely there has to be a way!

[@hasafa9580]

Disagree, you have to approve your Highschool diploma through ZAB. Why won’t you do that?

[@ben8133]

Hi, thanks for the comment but I wanted to ask you what's wrong with koln? If you could tell please, as I am planning to pursue my masters there. I thought It was a good city.

[@hasafa9580]

@@ben8133 Nothing is wrong with Köln, some people like to complain. Germany is most generous country. Greetings from Germany from foreigner

[@vslsnd2320]

Looking for cheap labour workers is already discrimination dressed up as openness, which you could experience in some environments in Germany. The language for example. One thing is a language level that allows you to survive, and one other is to being able to discuss intellectually with somebody. If you can’t speak fluently you probably will not be taken serious. Even if you know the topic and have knowledge to make your point. If it doesn’t sound convincing it will not be heard. Some people can feel discriminated if they are not heard. Discrimination works at many levels, and the language is not an exception. Even positive discrimination is a daily thing in Germany. I can only say, if you are looking for just a job, probably better paid than your home country, but low (depending the area you specialize) in Germany it worth to try it. But if you are looking for an experience with development of your skills, engage with the culture you live in, participate, expand, and grow I would not recommend it. Germany is a place to shut your mouth, put your head down, obey and work hard. It is not openness it is a limited tolerance what you will experience.

[@MrTohawk]

it's not only cheap labour. Some of these jobs, like the electricians they mentioned in the video, are paying really well

[@SonnyDarvishzadeh]

When I landed in Berlin (first time in Europe), I was so surprised that my colleagues in IT department were all (except one older German) from much poorer economies; e.g. Cuba, Russia, Ukraine, Bulgaria, Zimbabwe, Pakistan, Sri Lanka, Iran, Turkey, etc. I kept wondering where are the Aussies, the Japanese and the Americans? Why don't they move to Germany? Apparently they do, if they have some specific or personal reason like because of a family member or they are here for short term. Germany is only a decent country to move to a better place. Is food good here? No, the imported food culture is good. The weather? No AC in scorching hot summers and 4 months of solid freezing temperatures. Is life 26/7? No, they tend to close whenever they want on top of holidays and weekends. Do you enjoy talking to people here? Good percentage of conversation is about reminding each other of what is illegal to do. Can you choose your apartment from 100 of options and filter out where exactly you want to live? No, housing crisis is ongoing for many years. Only work and employment rights is really good here, the rest are trade offs. Oh we have plenty of strikes, from airports to trains.

[@vslsnd2320]

@@MrTohawk if you maybe read what I wrote, I did say "depending in which area you work". But your lack of text interpretation doesn't finish there. If you also read, you might understand that "only working" is NOT a fully developing life for many. It is also about how you can BE PART OF, EXIST, EXPRESS, DEVELOP independent from ONLY WORK, in a culture. That is what at least I consider part of "life quality".

[@luwaggagodfrey2089]

Bro, Am from uganda kindly I there any genuine agency which you would recommend to someone to use to go to Germany. Coz we are jobless. Thanks​@@SonnyDarvishzadeh

[@renanfelipedossantos5913]

How crazy would that be if we treated people like human beings with intelligence, dreams and ambitions.

[@Leviathan_070]

simple answer to the title of this video, NO, racism is getting higher and higher. It doesn't matter how professional you are , if you are not german you are pushed to fly away.

[@tatjana7008]

I also think the more media tries to fight racism, the more racism is here. People don't like to be told what they must to do. Surprisingly for me, older generation is more inclusive and polite to me (ofc some exclusions), but young one put you in the box according to your passport and will treat you accordingly. My Korean American friend treated much better than me here, because he got "superior" citizenships. The same goes for Taiwanese. Mainland China don't enjoy this priviledge at all, because they seem to be inferior to developed West

[@MarinaVendetta]

Germany wants you to want to come here but once you went through the troubles of accommodating yourself you will see that the country has done absolutely nothing to help you in the process, it is quite the opposite. They need cheap labour, it's all.

[@scorpion.4266]

If you have option to choose other countries, it is not recommended Germany. Go to Netherlands,Switzerland,Uk,Norway

[@wrestlingterrier8366]

Besides English language being used in the Netherlands, would you mind sharing what other positives the Netherlands has over Germany?

[@scorpion.4266]

@@wrestlingterrier8366 to know it you should live. So many advantages

[@jaupolio]

What about being emotionally repressed? No feelings being shown, no hug, no touch, no affection, no set heart and passion in what you do. Welcome to Coldmany!!!!

[@val-schaeffer1117]

They are fairly nice to White Mexicans and South Africans. But not to Chinese PhD student and Indian SAP developer. It is about race race race.

[@janeznovak7589]

Don't go to Germany. It is one of my biggest life mistakes. Unfriendly people, creepy old apartments, hard language, limited career options. Poor service, poor infrastructure Look USA, immigrants kids are CEOs of many great companies. I have never meet a foreigner or their kids being boss in Germany. We save to move to Australia. Warm weather and way more relax people. If not possible than Canada

[@tatjana7008]

Thats important moment, immigrant children has less possibilities since school, because they can't go to gymnasium and study. If they try to do it, it will take many years and effort, but its still filtering based on ethnic and financial background at 4th grade. I met many talented people who were sent to Realschule, only because their background didn't please teacher

[@DhirajPatra]

Less salary, high living cost, no rent or extremely high rent. Language and company corruption rejecting non eu without any reason. Germany company getting profit from immigration but life is pathetic for high skill Indian in Germany

[@val-schaeffer1117]

The main problem is that there are NO ACADEMIC BENCHMARKING. A US company can never reject an immigrant with degree from Harvard or Princeton. In Germany, you can be a Grad from Heidelberg or TU Munich, it matters zilch in corporate job market.

[@TheKirilover]

Its not just about attracting new talents, its also about keeping the ones that already came. Recent report indicate Germany is the country where foreign workers are the most depressed. This is very hard to stay long in Germany

[@meetimian3383]

Is this because of super high taxes??

[@mr.centrist5789]

Good let them leave

[@ap46723]

​@@mr.centrist5789that's the problem .😂 Where you will get nurses, doctors, ingenieurs, IT people from? Germans are not many enough to do all the jobs... Maybe you don't see this yet

[@mr.centrist5789]

@@ap46723 yeah that's the problem. And you think making Germans a minority is the solution. Germany is not just an economic zone. 😂

[@TheKirilover]

@@Titanesses Forget about him. I was living in UK during Brexit time, there are millions of people like him. They see non-nationals as a threat, not an opportunity. After Brexit all non-nationals, inlcuding me, left UK and now UK is in the worst situation since WW2, but people like Mr Centrist will always refuse to see this.

[@CDGbyGraziaCosta]

Bringing in more people doesn't seem logical when the job market in Germany isn't readily open to immigrants. Many graduate students, even with C1 German proficiency, struggle to secure good jobs. It's not just about attracting them; the focus should be on retaining talent since, ultimately, they may come but often have to leave. It's about keeping them in the long run.

[@val-schaeffer1117]

Germany wants specialists training by OTHERS working at rock bottom salary in Germany. So an English speaking SAP developer from Infosys with only a Bachelor from India would be more welcome than Uni Stuttgart Computer Science grad with C1 German level. The Infosys guy will be preferred as well for his low exit opportunity. He will be in a deadend technical role for rest of his life.

[@yasserm.dhouib9488]

This is basically a depleting process of emerging nations

[@mnkwazi]

@yasserm.dhouib9488 it is. Not sure why Vietnam is for this.

[@here_we_go_again2571]

@@mnkwazi Remittances (sent back home)

[@jamestk656]

I knew this Asian American girl 20 years ago. She told me a story about how she loved German culture and she spent years learning the language. Eventually, she convinced her parents to host a German exchange student at their house so they can learn from each other. They enrolled in a host family program and had a German girl fly over who stayed at their house for three days only to immediately leave after complaining to her parents that she'd rather stay with real Americans (or at least the version of Americans she had in her head). To top it off, I don't think the girl I knew lost her love of Germany despite that experience which makes her a better person than many. Decades later, I still think about that story whenever the topic of Germany comes up lol

[@remurrr]

“ i still think about that story whenever i meet Germans lol..”. I feel you 😂

[@kreight_]

1 person = 80 million people, naturally

[@Me_di]

Germans don't seem to give a f of typical asian tiger moms or helicopter parenting

[@jamestk656]

@@kreight_ There are only 80 million of you? You're more endangered than I thought lol

[@kreight_]

@@jamestk656 ok. No point arguing with a big brained person like yourself

[@neuronneuron7304]

I worked in Germany for 7 years. 5 years in Rostock and 2 years in Berlin. I was working in academic institutions in Germany (Rostock University and Charite Medical Center, Berlin). I was working on neurodegenerative and neurodevelopmental disorders and did a lot of research in the research laboratories. I have to admit that I really enjoyed working in Germany. My experience working in Germany was simply superb. My boss in Rostock was simply the best boss that I ever had, and my second boss in Berlin was great too. The only problem I had in Germany was learning German language. It is a difficult language. I still do not know how to use der, das, die. Maybe it is because I speak already three languages, and additional language might be problematic to learn. One thing that Germany needs, is to bring more and more academic and high skilled people, for example scientists, researchers, engineers. In addition, they need to create more stable research positions in academia. Research positions like staff scientist or research scientist positions simply do not exists in German Universities. So, imagine a person with 30 or 40 research papers and the person is still a postdoc. Another problem is that after you completed your PhD in Germany, you have 6 years to work in academic institution. If after 6 years you were not able to find a tenure position, you can not work in academic institutions. This is the reason why we have so many German scientists in the USA. Tenure position/s in German Universities simply do no exists. Overall, I had a wonderful time in Germany and I never experienced any discrimination, or racism toward me in Germany.

[@cookies3905]

Is there a institute you would recommend for someone with an undergrad in Microbiology, looking to go to Germany for studying/ doing research on neurodegenerative diseases?

[@neuronneuron7304]

@@cookies3905 Hello. I am neuroscientist, and electrophysiologist. With regard of neurodegenerative diseases, there are some excellent centers that exists in Berlin, Goettingen, Freiburg, Heidelberg, Bonn, and in Munich as well. For example Charite Medical Center, University Medical Center Hamburg-Eppendorf, and of course Max Planck Institute for example for Brain Research or Max Planck Institute for Medical Research that studies neurodegenerative disorders.

[@neuronneuron7304]

@@cookies3905 Yes, there are some excellent Institutes in Berlin, Munich, Freiburg, Heidelberg, Goettingen, Frankfurt, Leipzig, Mainz. There are a lot of groups that are working on neurodegenerative diseases, for example in Charite Medical Center in Berlin, or in Max Planck Institutes.

[@val-schaeffer1117]

Academia is not a "real" job. And your lab was anyway 80% Chinese Indian Romanian Arab. Try entering Banking in "multicultural" Frankfurt.

[@reza310]

I am a skilled worker with a phd in pharmacy specializing in oncology . Everytime i go to ausländer behoder , they treat me like a criminal . I studied and lived in three other countries and none were like this . But day to day life is ofcourse less troublesome

[@MashinLA_03]

dont go to germany you would regret it

[@jhoanne3659]

Its hard to find apartment here in Germany....And when you find one....its not sure if you will be the one to get that apartment.

[@val-schaeffer1117]

Day 3 as a student in Uni Frankfurt, way back in 2008. Went to a career fair with a Ukrainian friend. HR people at the desks TOTALLY ignored my then intermediate German, but engaged in very friendly manner with my English speaking Ukrainian friend. While I was asked to apply using online apprication page, 2 min later the Ukrainian got visiting cards. I knew what was in store for me in Germany.

[@aslammighty8835]

If you are earning good money and have your own house than your country is a better place for you.

[@MTM3016]

The hilarity of a multicultural society demanding that you learn German. I for one am pro assimilation but the current system of multiculturalism poisons peoples attitudes towards immigrants as there truly is no pressure to assimilate in a world where a lot of people can live permanently online.

[@scorpion.4266]

This country is very old fashioned. Old buildings, bureaucratic services. When you enter country, you notice that country is the full of with older people.

[@2msvalkyrie529]

Answer : Don't come ! ( easy ? )

[@Thomas.Deverell]

I wish requirements for public transport drivers were simplified. At the moment there is a high demand on them, but one must have a German driver's licence for two years in order to get the job in Germany. I have been studying German for 3 years. I may continue, but it won't help me.

[@viradsingla8050]

Well, I'm an Expat living in Germany and I can tell the issue of Discrimination is not a perceived one, it is very real..

[@jansoltes971]

So why do you stay there if it's SO bad?

[@JonTodt775]

Which state u live in Germany?

[@1rich14]

@@jansoltes971it’s people like you... Every human being is entitled to be treated fairly and w/ decency no matter where they live. It’s 2024. Get with the program.

[@val-schaeffer1117]

@@JonTodt775 Does not matter. I am fluent in German and hold German nationality. I faced racism in every single step, from rental to labour market to dating. I moved to Luxembourg last month.

[@val-schaeffer1117]

@@1rich14 I think he wanted to justify racism if the location is East Germany, with comments like "what else did you expect". In reality entire Germany is equally racist.

[@markdc1145]

Germany is a good place to work but foreigners considering moving there should also be aware that they will be excluded from many areas of society. As in the past, Germany badly needs foreign labor today but they should also know their place. It's that way.

[@aslammighty8835]

Germany could be good for Germans but foreigners mostly prefer US, Australia, UK, Canada, new Zealand because we are British colonies. We mostly speak English. Language barriers is the most common problem in Germany. People don't want to learn German language.

[@mandarinandthetenrings2201]

Sorry, but your not going see a whole of immigration in Germany. In fact your going see the reverse many skilled German workers are going leave for America. This happen in the 1840's it will happen again.

[@TheSuperVideoRey1]

@@aslammighty8835 Also those english speaking countries tend to be more open to socialize in comparison to Germany so find your place as an immigrant could be easier.

[@mzsnayem1731]

Visa consulates need to have more workforce to ensure quick visas; for example Dhaka embassy has a long waiting period( greater than 18 months currently for student visas). Work visa s are also a lot slower.

[@meetimian3383]

Similar in Islamabad embassy. Thank God I came to France or else i may have stuck. Though some lucky friends of mine still got early visa appointments

[@MisoDad777]

There is no such thing as open society here in Germany. German may be welcoming to people but they are very much adamant or even closed off to newcomers and newcomers, despite having the language skills, cannot just shift their mindset to the germanness of the german (I can't explain but if you live here, you know what I'm talking about). Overall, I am happy to be here with the life that I built with my partner. Nowhere is perfect sure, but living in Germany has given us so much that we could possibly need in terms of basic necessities such as health care, education, worker's rights, etc. and for that I am forever grateful. But there's a caveat here, it does attract people who want to be basic, mediocre, and would demand so much for nothing that they could give back (Just look at the never ending strikes. Workers demand for more but nothing has been improved to give back to the end users wtf?). So yeah, what can I say. Do I like it here? Yes. Do I recommend people to come? Absolutely!

[@user-xr2hc2mf2k]

The strikes are because hard working Germans have to pay a third of their income to these socialist benefits (mainly for immigrants and old people)

[@val-schaeffer1117]

The keword is the word: BASIC. So Germany treats you at legally the lowest level. Proves the point of racism and exclusion.

[@val-schaeffer1117]

If you want to attract Neurosurgeons, then actually treating him like a nurse with "everything else taken care of, by social welfare safety net", is not enough. People want reward proportionate to their effort. Problem happens when foreigner neurosurgeon seeks a flat in German upper middle class nrighbourhood.

[@luisvasquez5015]

It is not the rise of the far right, it is the ancient unending bureaucracy, lack of openness by Germans, and underdigitalization. These things made me and most other of my international classmates in a German University decide to just go elsewhere, where we could get our work permits done, our qualifications recognized, and started working in two months (in germany, if your work permit is processed in less than one year, it is considered FAST)

[@val-schaeffer1117]

Day 3 as a student in Uni Frankfurt, way back in 2008. Went to a career fair with a Ukrainian friend. HR people at the desks TOTALLY ignored my then elementary German, but engaged in very friendly manner with my Ukrainian friend. While I was asked to apply using online apprication, 2 min later the Ukrainian got visiting cards. I knew what was in store for me.

[@Tykoon]

Never lived in Germany, but I like the fact that DW talks about discrimination. In Quebec (Canada) discrimination is widespread especially at the workplace but Quebecers never acknowledge that. If you express concern about discrimination they will go after you even more.

[@colin8696908]

lol 30,000 there is no way it's that low were talking about 1 million unregistered people in the country right now.

[@2msvalkyrie529]

It's virtually impossible to deport illegal immigrants from Germany ! !? Human Rights ...blah, blah...etc

[@askarufus7939]

My uncle (polish) works there in building sector for more than 20 years already and when he goes home for vacation he gets tens of calls when he will come back because the clients want him specifically to work for them. He says Germans treat him normal, same as in Poland but they pay more 😂 My brother has been there for some time with his wife as a mechanic. Doesnt know much german nor english but he said he was treated nice and very needed and that they appreciated his work. Never expercienced bad treatment. It's contrasting when you hear peoples experiences from Britain.

[@flyingpenguin574]

Well one thing to mention is that polish are europeans 😅, which of course don't experience much racism like we asians.

[@luiscobos123]

Why would a European that is more white than the Germans, and they learn German at school or know it from living at the border, complain in a comment section of a news piece about racism from all over the world living in Germany. It is beyond me. I don't understand it.

[@fairuzmaileen5691]

​@flyingpenguin574 or people from the Middle East, Africa, Latin America, India

[@tatjana7008]

My boss(es) also want me stay here and me to work for them. Still doesn't change the fact that I'm ignored and not included, unless we talk about my work results. Not even saying bye / hello, just like I don't exist beside my work. And about Polish I heard jokes "Is it stolen? " so may be your uncle ok with it, or never heard it

[@jdrancho1864]

The Vietnamese who are in Germany today are mostly workers imported from North Vietnam to the DDR, in the spirit of socialist cooperation, comrade. So there is really nothing new about going to Vietnam to source labor.

[@jorgeortegavindas]

The biggest problem is finding a decent apartment or house

[@compactwoodhplcladding]

Discrimination is a serious problem in Germany. This is the 21st century. Terribly sorry.

[@2msvalkyrie529]

er......Don't go there ..! Simple solution. Maybe your home country is better ?😂😂

[@MrElmag12]

"Life is too short to learn German" 😂

[@milonmathew8510]

Versuchen Sie auch, die Gebühren für internationale Goethe-Prüfungen zu senken. In Kerala, Indien, steigt die Zahl von Jahr zu Jahr und liegt nun bei 20.000 bis 25.000 Rubine. Es gibt Studierende, die die Prüfung mindestens 2-3 Mal absolvieren, um sie zu bestehen.

[@aslammighty8835]

Why senken? Why not weiter steigen? Is everything in India not expensive today?

[@Veggieture]

I went to report a crime at the police station. I asked, “Sprechen Sie Englisch?” I got replied, „Das ist Deutschland“ over the intercom.

[@meetimian3383]

The same they say here in France as well 😂

[@Ausknutz]

Well, they are not wrong. The country's official language is German, not English. So they don't have the obligation to speak any other language. I moved to Germany last year and so far I haven't seen people refusing to speak English, even in the public sector.

[@scientifically5812]

Nooooo.....It is very atractive for toilet cleaners....

[@rodox2832]

Wages are just too low to compete with the US and Australia

[@hasafa9580]

Disagree, I am from Georgia 🇬🇪, living in Germany for 20 years. It happened only once throughout all this years, that some rude guy discriminated me. Germans are the best. Love this country ❤️

[@Indresh2468]

I never faced discrimination in the Ausländerbehörde as pointed out by many here. Maybe I had an exceptional experience. But all the conversations I had were in English and it went smoothly even though I forgot some documents, I was able to provide the e-version of it.

[@JonTodt775]

Which field do you work in Germany?

[@Indresh2468]

@@JonTodt775 I'm a PhD student

[@renanfelipedossantos5913]

As much as I like Germany and would love to visit or even live there, your model seems broken. If you need to take in 400k immigrants per year, how could that ever be sustainable? Keep in mind that these immigrants will not remain on the same job their whole lives and if they settle, they'll eventually form families and have more educated children prospecting the same middle class lives as the natives, thus compounding the problem. Are you considering guest worker programs instead, where the immigrant worker stays for a fixed period of time and then goes back home?

[@jmc4935]

All this immigration and they can't seem to land the people for the jobs they have urgent needs for. We're eating their lunch in the US by sniping all the top tech talent from abroad. I'm in tech and there is ZERO chance I'd go to Germany or recommend anyone in my industry to go to Germany. No upside for moving to Europe if you're in tech. If anything, we're seeing German talent come to the US. Had plenty of Germans in my last big studio and we contracted German artists in Germany since they were so cheap compared to their US counterparts.

[@alexmartinez-og8gu]

most immigrants leave on their own. especially the ones with skills. of your a engineer, doctor or coder there are literally 100+ better coutries then germany and according to the german goverment they seem to figure it out quite fast because the vast majority leave.

[@markbecker71]

Perhaps Germany should just have more children 🤔..

[@UndSieBewegt]

The former Romanian president and dictator Nicolae Ceausescu also demanded this from his subjects. Only they would have preferred something to eat!

[@melolonthamelolontha9099]

That this would be possible is an illusion of the right-wing in Germany.

[@bojanm986]

That would be offending for child-free couples

[@param888]

yes and then handover them to Klaus Schwab 😂😂😂

[@param888]

@@uhwake how many times have you been dumped and divorced ? tell honestly 😂🤫🤫

[@jdrancho1864]

They didn't have to go far for this report. They could have just interviewed this presenter.

[@richardm9934]

I just migrated to Germany from the USA to complete an apprenticeship in an in-demand Handwerker field. I speak German C1. My experience was a disaster. The behavior of anyone further up the hierarchy to subordinates was truly appauling. From the construction managers, to the boss to the vocational teachers. Even well intentioned German coworkers were completely ambivalent to supporting me. Hours were exploitive too, with the Freizeitsausgleich work model essentially forcing people to work 50 hours every week. I must say, it was worse than the similar jobs I did in the USA in poor, republican states. And even as the most privileged minorty I could possibly be (white German-looking, German-speaking American) I still felt discriminated against; for ex, I was repeatedly humiliated by a further up for wearing a yellow rain suit in stormy weather. The lower class Germans suffered the same, but systemic racism absolutely exists here. My coworker from Afghanistan was treated TERRIBLY. The boss would casually say racist insults to him, degrading his intelligence. He was unfairly skeptical about any needs my Afghani coworker had, for example screaming at him for not being able to make quotas on the sandblaster when they were impossible and breaking his body. I love Germany, but someone's gotta politicize these exploited minorities so they can make their voices heard - and expose their nasty bosses. Otherwise, it seems Germany's progressive liberalism is no better than places like Idaho or Utah - really sad.

[@paulyb7267]

I have a German friend who told me that they can also be racist towards people from other parts of Germany. She told me that she once experienced a mobbing for speaking like a Prussian.

[@userz1985A]

So sad...your Afghani Co worker should have yelled at his Boss...He would not loos anything...I had a Boss in Germany and I wouldent even let him to talk even louder than me...

[@LeegallyBliindLOL]

​@@paulyb7267I don't know what a Prussian is supposed to sound like since Prussia doesn't exist anymore but yes, regional racism is strong in Germany. Especially eastern people often hate the west and Bavaria just hates everyone xd

[@lordwiadro83]

Come to France, it is much worse here in terms of bullying and discrimination.

[@g00d-news]

imagine this headline... that is the saddest thing i read in a long time - and that will say a lot - crazy to think about it. the biggest fascist country of the world once "still" is unfortunately discriminating foreigners who try to collaborate.... Ridiculous , sad!

[@SonnyDarvishzadeh]

Have you heard of the scientific study of shocking the lab mice while feeding them? Where the scientists discovered that 2 generations later, the sound of shock still scared the mice. Genes change much faster than they thought. We aren't that many generations away from the atrocities.

[@mikethespike7579]

It's a matter of where in Germany. Many Germans in the former East German states are not so happy about immigrants. Strangely enough though these love and welcome Vietnamese. Otherwise I find (as a someone with an immigration background) that most Germans are relaxed about immigrants with many robustly standing up for them. I also found that learning the language helped. Some Germans are uncomfortable with someone who doesn't speak their language and might react off-putting. One can get by with English for a while, but it isn't a good alternative for a longer stay in the country. BTW, the mentioned complicated immigration laws are not unique to Germany. Pretty much the whole of the EU has complicated immigration laws. And just to counter some of the misinformation further down below, Germany has one of the best and most affordable health care systems. Health care insurance is mandatory for everyone and fees are gauged to income.

[@davidfoltz8922]

I agree it should be easier, and countries need to be friendlier... Western countries need immigration because of our falling birthrates. That being said, it's easy to criticize some countries though.... I wonder how they treat foreign workers in places like India, Asia, Africa??? I've heard nothing but horror stories! In Canada, they "claim" there are shortages in some areas and "NEED" foreign workers to fill them, but once an Indian or Philippine person etc. get's in to a hiring position, they DON'T hire Canadians or anyone not of their nationality! EVER!

[@dieunterhaltung6130]

I agree with you. Declining birthrates are the problem of developed countries. Pension, healthcare, education, and all benefits are needed to be fulfilled by taxes paid from workers that fill the vacancy gap. And the same discrimination happens too in other countries as expats and as local competing workforce.

[@meralyncaang2434]

I'm almost 3 years here in Germany i also experienc discrimination now im introvert no work yet,i trying to fight the feeling of not comfortable with others i look for a jobs just for the start Cleaning job justto gain self confidence again.but I saw on indeed ang other platforms they looking for Erfahrung in Cleaning jobs is that necessary? I apply also at DHL but they look for Deutsch kenntnisse I understand Deutsch but my confidence to speak is difficult I wish Germany like other countries they are friendly to the new here legally..

[@engin643]

Two thirds say they have experienced racism and dude is talking about "perceived" racism ?!?

[@val-schaeffer1117]

Brushing racism under the carpet is what Government mouthpiece DW does.

[@2msvalkyrie529]

Anyone who doesn't get a job or promotion or served with a smile in shops : It's Racism....!!!

[@mongtkb]

Just look at we Asians in the US. Racism is the last thing in our list of things to worry about. Like an English saying "out of sight, out of mind," we don't dwell too much into something that someone says mean thing to us

[@val-schaeffer1117]

So basically you admit that racism is rampant in Germany. (Your therapy strategy being "suck it up")

[@Toulkun]

Except in US you will be an American once you get citizenship while in Germany you will forever be a foreigner.

[@eyeeyeoh]

Living in Germany since 2020 and making about 75000 euro a year right now. Never faced any discrimination or even red tape. Yes it’s not that easy to make friends here randomly, but the guys from work are very friendly and genuine personalities. And I know a bunch of other expats who have a similar experience here.

[@tatjana7008]

I had this expereience too, then they know I won't date them and its over 🤣

[@heinzvoll7798]

Hubertus Heil dubbed with a scottish accent - great! 😂

[@Keyzizu]

not sure, im here about 8months and its tough to find a job. they want you to know german first

[@gialamhuynh5448]

The biggest problem is the language barrier. Most of jobs in Germany require German which is natural but there are currently numerous unemployed foreign IT engineers in Berlin struggling to find jobs whereas the demand in IT skills is high.

[@ap46723]

I was told yesterday: In the real life they don't want skilled workers from abroad at all, because these workers don't have the same papers, german experience etc. And that is not normal for them, so it makes a lot of problems, exceptions, their IT systems can't handle it by recruiting so they don't want that.

[@gialamhuynh5448]

@@ap46723 Thank you for sharing. Interesting, but not surprising in a way. In France, you will encounter the same language and cultural barriers in French companies.

[@zui589]

You can find job in Germany, also in IT or business..but you will not get the same money as your german colleague, even you are more skilled. One tipp = to have a german sounding name and know perfect german language with accent of your location in Germany.

[@tatjana7008]

Well still have to put photo in CV and nationality as well. Won't help that much. And tasks I get either ones my colleagues can't do or don't want to do

[@karalove3786]

The hostility is not only in Germany, but also the embassies are very hostile despite having all the documents required for a national visa. You get there and they request documents not part of the requirements. Learning of German at the Goethe Institut isn't cheap either so for many people (at least where I come from) it's not just the daunting language that's a turn off, but the expenses associated of learning the language, since institutes like the Arbeit Agentur requires a minimum of B2 to register with them as a foreigner oversees looking for a job in Germany.

[@Alma-wl9bo]

Germany has enough working force but its social system doesn't encourage people to work. Germany high taxation to working Labor force is not attraktiv either cause the more you work the more you pay taxes, so many people prefere to work 4 days or to not work at all.

[@AllAroundRoutes]

The first discrimination is obviously can ben seen at Ausländerbehörde offices. They should hire more open-minded staff. Those who don't judge newcomers by German language skills, skin colour, and ethics.

[@masri750]

Absolutely right. I remember the first time I went there in 2018 in Düsseldorf, I picked a ticket and chose "English" out of many other languages on the screen. When my turn came & I started talking in English, the young lady didn't even bother to listen to my question, interrupted me and said something like we're in Germany, we speak German and I can't help you today cuz we're understaffed, either you bring a translator or take another appointment (Termin) in the next 6-8 weeks.😂 I still remember that dinasour, and that was my first contact to the German Multiculti Monster. Btw I'm a doctor, and at that time I had a Language-Student visa !!which means I obviously couldn't use German YET.😂

[@2msvalkyrie529]

Immigrants outrageous sense of entitlement is biggest problem.!! Plus they quite openly say how they despise German language and Culture . But they demand to be treated like valuable guests ???

[@anhidric1]

Racism and discrimination in Germany are very subtil.

[@val-schaeffer1117]

They are very direct with discrimination

[@advaitrao]

Germany has a lot to offer. Yet, I have to admit that my home country India may not be as advanced as Germany but offers so many more things. Firstly it is digitally way more advanced. I need to carry cash around just in case 🙄 I still cannot believe living in 2024 in Germany, I cannot go to a supermarket or mall on Sunday 😂. So many things are done by post due to DSGVO. And let’s be honest work culture and conditions are great, but the pay is quite poor with high taxes. If someone wants to earn money go to the USA. If you want a dynamic life and like your country stay there. Only if you want to get great work conditions, nature and earn moderately well and don’t mind losing most of it to social and tax payments, come to Germany… I have decided to leave within 12 months btw.

[@meetimian3383]

Where have you moved now? What are your thoughts about Luxembourg and France??

[@advaitrao]

@@meetimian3383 I am still in Germany and actively looking for opportunities to move back to India. I think Luxembourg is similar. I didn’t find it fascinating when I visited. France depends on location but can’t say more as I don’t know.

[@ylpea5170]

OMG no! Unpaid overtime on a daily basis, RUN while you still can!!!!!

[@Pram4]

I think we are good enough to respect the culture, i read a lot in our forum that when we work in Europe or Asia that we need to learn their languages, blend and study the culture, not into politics, pay taxes and use the money from the government for good.... Because yesterday Im surprised that some immigrants not working at all and use the money from the government just for playing everyday in their home wth

[@ichbinhier355]

the problem is that people don't want to integrate into the German society amd don't even make the effort, that's why they always say "I'm not welcome here"

[@koushikdas1992]

It's their choice!

[@Continentalmunkey88]

4 day work-week discussions in Germany, more work by species isn't always fun, neither is lack/want from less work, or miss-taken less energy

[@meetimian3383]

When exactly can this be implemented??

[@interchris]

This guy saying that “perceived discrimination and abuse” doesn’t mean the people actually experienced discrimination speaks for itself and shows why this discrimination isn’t going to go away any time soon. Step number one to make things better is to believe vulnerable people’s experiences! Otherwise nothing will ever change.

[@wafazorgui9066]

The racisme, sarcasme and discrimination in germany work places is out of Hand. Its not a cliché, it’s a truth, a fact! If You want to Save your Soul from a painful experience don’t come here. Word ! The money is not even worth it, there nothing to do hier beside work !

[@the_nomadic_ajith]

I have lived in Barcelona, Spain for a few months earlier. I would say that they are so friendly and welcoming. Every EU country needs to be like that. ❤❤❤

[@nataliac7716]

They have blood in their veins ❤

[@svart7716]

Germany is getting more and more discriminatory. Wages are not satisfactory compared to other industrialized countries. Highly educated professionals don’t choose Germany. Germany has not caught up with the digitalization. One single American car(Tesla) market capitalization is more than twice than all the great cars of Germany combined.. But the biggest problem Germany faces now is the hostile treatment of immigrants..

[@SonnyDarvishzadeh]

Congratulations to Germany for finally having Google Street View! 👏 Only took you over a decade.

[@thulsa_doom]

lmao 🤣 One day we will get rid of letter and faxes, and finally use emails, just give us another 20 years.

[@Lando-kx6so]

Germany's mostly attractive to those from other European countries (mostly to Easter, Central, & Southern Europe both in the EU & not in the EU) & the Middle East.

[@Saymyname1.2]

Absolutely true. and there is no one to call for help when you are discriminated. Wish I knew before it happened to me in Germany.

[@tomgrzesik2587]

1st hard to live in Germany just using English language only:(

[@bidzej86]

...then learn German, if you live there.

[@rollingdownfalling]

But that defeats the purpose. You should rather stay in your home country.

[@deesiInGermany]

Make English more acceptable like other Nordic countries

[@sweden_is_xxxx]

Haha yeah...the problem is the Germans don't speak 10% of English so how would it help?

[@elizabethabele3039]

Learn the German language!!!

[@deesiInGermany]

@@elizabethabele3039 how you will make world learn German. They need to build their service sector. Manufacturing will be done by china india Vietnam Indonesia

[@saleemysn]

They speak english better than people in england,just they refuse to speak it !​@@sweden_is_xxxx

[@oliverschmidt1988]

Nope. If you wanna work and life here, learn the language. PERIOD

[@wokeaf1337]

I am german and I feel discriminated in Germany...being discriminated and feeling discriminated are two different things.

[@UndSieBewegt]

Yes, because you hate yourself, you keep posting (repeating) the howls of the right-wing extremist AfD.

[@deesiInGermany]

I have been discriminated, due to my poor German, Dr. denied my treatment. Although it is one rare scenario

[@Zarturael]

@@deesiInGermany being racist is not okay, but to be fair, as medical doctor maybe he really couldn't trust that he could make a correct diagnosis if he doesn't understand you. Patient - doctor communication usually is a huge part of diagnosing

[@asmirann3636]

​@@deesiInGermany I went to two Dentists in Germany. Both of them were very nice. This was because despite the Health Insurance I was willing to pay them in cash to get priority treatment. They were extremely nice, friendly and courteous with me. But both of them destroyed the tooth they worked on. One required a root canal which eventually failed and I had to get it redone from some other place. Other one required a cavity to be filled, which came out after a year and a half. So they are very nice if you give them money. When the Germans know that they can benefit themselves from you, then they will always be nice to you, irrespective of your skin color or race.

[@zineddinebelgaid7303]

😒

[@user-jp2lo2pp6g]

If someone able to resist the discrimination and rasicm in germany ,he /she can make it. However I guess it is so difficult to live for long period in germany as a foreigner since there is a wild discrimination and unfriendly german behaviour. I have seen many foreigners leave germany after a while stay due to this environment.

[@mr.centrist5789]

Good they should leave

[@user-jp2lo2pp6g]

​@@mr.centrist5789😂 I think germany will hurt when these skilled graduated students leave the country . They come from abroad they study for free but due to wild discrimination then they move to other better places/countries . For them it is win win but for Germany it is loss..your country is running by immigrant , germany factories elderly care system and engineers for the main economic engine is held by immigrant , trust me if all these immigrants leave germany, it will be the first country to collapse. But I do really wish this to happen then Germans learn how much valuable these immigrants mean to their economy.

[@FabianRitterG]

Skilled workers is one measure but top skilled workers is another. I wonder if Alemania attracts top minds or if in that sense is quite behind. On my personal bias I would expect to not be attractive enough for very highly skilled workers where they would still prefer US, UK, Singapore, Portugal.....

[@thelongtony]

Germany should review its laws regarding nationality to descendants abroad

[@annhat3343]

xD, Nobody pay attention on the poster @ 0:10 :)

[@midsomerparva5188]

lol

[@meetimian3383]

What about insane amount of taxes? For an instance if someone makes over €100k which is even rare in Germany but still if we imagine then about €45k will be taken by government. This is BS! No one can make real wealth in Germany

[@val-schaeffer1117]

100K is very very rare in Germany. Even in the range of 65K gross per annum, the deduction are about 50% (tax and social insurance)

[@patriciacrowley1103]

I really would love working and living in Germany. Life is expensive and very modern and futuristic. They're very educated and cultured. There are many interesting careers in Germany, beautiful places too. Tourists love Germany for many reasons

[@JUST_OBEY]

modern and futuristic? 🤣🤣🤣 They are afraid of emailing you so they will ALWAYS prefer sending you unnecessary letters - they have a fetish with paper, i'd say 🤷🏻‍♂