Is High School Musical 2... The BEST One?? (w/ Jarvis Johnson) - Guilty Pleasures Ep. 74

Jarvis Johnson joins us to discuss the class warfare fueled film: High School Musical 2.
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GUILTY PLEASURES
Comedians Zach Kornfeld, Kelsey Darragh, and Garrick Bernard take turns sharing their favorite guilty pleasure movies and TV shows and invite their funniest friends along to feel good about feeling guilty.
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Licensed from AudioNetwork
PODCAST PRODUCER
Miles Bonsignore
PODCAST INTERN
Rainie Toll

[@PokhrajRoy.]

I will tell this to LITERALLY anyone who will listen: The ‘High School Franchise’ is the biggest allegory about Queerness. It’s all about coming out and enjoying yourself living your truth. Also, why is no one shipping Ryan and Chad? That’s the ‘Heartstopper’ that could’ve been.

[@sam_597]

Hell yeah!! Ryan and chad is an elite ship!!

[@herb_rolls]

The director, Kenny Ortega, is gay. So yeah, probably despite the fact he does love making his straight musical romances. But you could take that same allegory and apply it to any marginalized person (women who only just gained the right to wear pants in the last 70 years and Kenny was born in 1950, black people being able to break prejudice both groups who are still marginalized) so when making allegory connections make sure to understand how sometimes a theme is so basic it can be applied to many people who need it! :)

[@PokhrajRoy.]

@@herb_rolls I didn’t know that. The fact that a director who’s gay helmed a grand franchise. Also, I know what you mean. Anything is an allegory if you think about it.

[@Claireannette77]

I will always be in love with Chad💕

[@flaviac6556]

PREACH

[@simplyjess9689]

can't believe yall didn't mention the fact that Lucas Gabriel (the guy who plays Ryan) was wearing two knee braces & a back brace during I Dont Dance bc he had just had knee surgery & had also just come off of touring this film so his body was in shambles & yet this man STILL!! performed his butt off for that scene. He literally said the director would yell cut & he would collapse from all the pain he was in.

[@adms226]

And still put his whole performussy into that homoerotic subtext!!?! Iconic

[@mayas3422]

that's fucking INSANE lucas gabriel was really doing it ALL

[@unseriousghoul]

Mothered tbh.

[@deathsheadhawkmoths]

*grabeel! but yes insane

[@Mocha_x_svt]

That's actually horrible and Disney is the worse

[@CarlyBarley333]

Zach’s face when he found out Chad and Ryan switched clothes was beautiful hahahaha

[@penroseforgeries124]

"to step away from the gay for a second-" "Why?!" "Don't worry we'll be back" Is 99% of my conversations with my friends hahahha

[@earth_2_erica333]

I feel like I could have an ENTIRE conversation with Jarvis on this franchise and it makes my heart so happy. Also, I need them to watch Ella Enchanted.

[@mayas3422]

yesss ella enchanted is so good

[@Johnsont2013]

I hope they watch Hsm 3 eventually. THE BUDGET!!! They’re not ready

[@LydiaHall-misamille]

Zach is not prepared for Scream.

[@0104brit]

The budget, Yes! The story.....no 🤭👎🏾

[@Thebeckyfiler]

They’re gonna sob. Especially if Kelsey 32 that means she’s my age so she had JUST graduated high school the year prior so all the graduation shit and leaving your theatre really hits hard 😂😂 ugh it still gets me lol

[@ajax3318]

THEYRE SO NOT READY FOR I WANT IT ALL and the ending..... theres no way they wont cry

[@emilymitchum9177]

Some movie trivia I'm shocked Zach didn't know lol: "Bet On It" was choreographed purposefully by Kenny Ortega as an allusion to Footloose! Otherwise yes it does look like an interpretive dance....arguably so does that scene in Footloose

[@rayrunn]

THIS IS AWESOME

[@LawnOrnament]

It makes sense bc he just KEEPS GOING💀🤣

[@hoolianalopez]

I just heard them say around the 12:30 mark that Ryan didn’t perform so why would he get the trophy from sharpay and I need them to know that Ryan is a choreographer and that’s like his whole thing

[@ia490]

Yes!! He choroeographed the whole thing!!

[@anto4380delaguaridaa]

they did say that the song they need up singing didn't have any choreography which is true

[@deathsheadhawkmoths]

corbin bleu was in fact an actual teenager during the high school musical movies!! he was the youngest person in the main cast, i think he was about ten years younger than monique coleman who plays his girlfriend taylor

[@theyJC]

Corban’s green shirt saying in the first dance scene was picked by the viewers. I remember Disney had an online poll to choose it haha man the nostalgia

[@cheskaarana6097]

Imagine being a part of history.

[@SilverCookie412]

I love watching Jarvis unleashing his undying passion for the high school musical franchise. Can’t wait for you guys to tackle hsm3 and Sharpay’s Fabulous adventure!! That spin-off movie was actually a really good thing for Sharpay’s character.

[@jennyw5904]

Kelsey and Jarvis: They switched clothes! Zach: *surprised Pikachu face*

[@harleyharris607]

So another fun fact: I remember the reason that they got a stunt double was that Vanessa Hudgens is allergic to chlorine. So that’s also why at the very end when she jumps in the pool, she literally starts almost drowning because she’s freaking out and swallowing the pool water

[@arianafranco2199]

i thought it was because she couldnt swim lol

[@cheskaarana6097]

There was a romantic night scene between Gab and Troy where they're in the pool though. The one where they were caught by Mr. Fulton.

[@harleyharris607]

@@arianafranco2199 she didn’t know how to since she never really learned because of her allergy

[@harleyharris607]

@@cheskaarana6097 yes, I just remember her saying in an interview that she was allergic 🤷🏼‍♀️

[@danid2702]

@@cheskaarana6097 Maybe they cleaned the pool and added water with no chlorine for the scene?

[@Somethingcorporate99]

Honestly that bloody Hawaiian song 😭 I was best friends with this girl in high school who thought she was basically Sharpé and forced me and our other friends to perform that bloody song for the school talent show 😭 it was atrocious, but when I re-watched the film with my daughter recently and the song wasn't in it I was so confused and it had me thinking the entire thing was a fever dream 😣

[@TheJayWashExperience]

I’m surprised no one brought up the photo leak Vanessa Hudgens went through right before this movie started filming which almost got her cut, which is probably why she had a limited role in this movie…

[@JordanA71009]

That's such a good point! I wonder how much was rewritten or changed in post production after the leak

[@Zeffer32]

Omg I completely forgot about that!! Maybe that's why her character doesn't have the biggest presence in this one

[@sunnypowers]

the photo actually was leaked after the premiere of hsm 2.

[@anto4380delaguaridaa]

@@sunnypowers it was before the premiere

[@he.said.teenjiejer]

god that was so fucked

[@0104brit]

Did anyone else become more impressed with the choreography as they got older? I loved "What Time Is It?" when I was a kid because it was fun. But re-watching it as an adult, I finally noticed how elaborate the choreography was..the attention to detail in that number is insane 👏🏾👏🏾

[@tayloroleary8844]

As a fellow Millennial who was the same ‘age’ all of the outfits are exclusively provided by Kohls. I owned literally every outfit in this movie.

[@alien_from_andromeda]

yeah disney always used kohls back then😭 i would always have the outfits disney characters wore

[@hellajanice]

Jarvis going in on the "All for One" choreo made my entire day 😂

[@MrFrankhdgs]

Ok. I'm 60-years old, and my children range in age between 21 and 39...I watched and enjoyed everything HSM, with my kids. I would consider it to still be a guilty pleasure.

[@tylonterry3604]

Real ones remember the premiere party on Disney channel and then Phineas and Ferb premiering right after

[@perrilewis180]

I want Jarvis to cover the entire high school musical song list.

[@livk453]

it definitely was a "how cheap can we shoot this" scenario with making the country club in the desert because the country club they filmed at is also in utah 😂just drove the cast the 5 hours down from the high school set to the country club lol

[@woohoojazelyn]

absolutely, high school musical 2 is THE BEST of the franchise! i owned the dvd as a kid and i would watch it almost every day (interspersed with camp rock lol). as an aside, i never thought the way gabriella said "summer" in the beginning was horny, i just thought she was being like... wistful and yearning. but yeah, i hear it now 😅

[@axeavier]

Is that Jarvis Johnson GOLD?! they're so premium

[@EvMaddiePlusDaddy]

Missed the part when Vanessa is fighting for her life not to drown in the pool at the end hahaha

[@MarleneRodriguez711]

No you don't get it this is crazy. I JUST REWATCHED THE EPISODE WHERE THEY TALK ABOUT HSM1 and when no one but Jarvis said they watched the second one I was so disappointed. Then I later I come online to see THIS in my recommended. I'm actually shaken up. I wanted this so bad

[@totallybionic123]

Since you guys were talking about Hannah Montana, I think you need to watch the Hannah Montana movie for the podcast. I think Kelsey and Rainey will appreciate and voice every Hannah Montana fan’s frustration that the events of the movie had ZERO impact on the show’s storylines after the fact. Aside from that, the movie slaps and still holds u; and that’s all that really matters 😂

[@emilyholder1225]

I’m literally dying for an episode for the Les Mis movie. It has to have both Keith and Eugene as guest though, no exceptions. Miles too.

[@faenatical_]

PLEASE do High School Musical 3. I need yall to break down the scene where Troy sings Scream bc talk about a dream sequence - this movie had a THEATER RELEASE and had their biggest budget.

[@desiraebunch8258]

Fun fact: the last song “All for One” features Miley Cyrus dancing in the background! Legendary cameo!

[@Evl_enchantress]

I was waiting for them to bring it up..

[@jayjohnston97]

Jason was in the first one! He's one of the basketball players and he asked the drama teacher how her holiday was

[@jayjohnston97]

Also about "Vanessa's" low note thing you'll actually find they did that in the first one too. Any lower notes they switched to another singer

[@Sophie-nz9fz]

I have such vivid memories of watching this on the couch with my friends when it premiered and crying our eyes out when gabriella left 😂

[@paulagibson7079]

By sheer coincidence I watched HSM3 today and omg why did I never realise that all 3 movies have the exact same plot. Zac's performance is "Scream" is every bit as extra as Bet On It. The fact Troy thought for even a moment that he was more of a basketball kid than a theatre kid 😭😭 Gabriella even had another getaway car moment with her mother lol

[@brianatford6603]

This is the most important episode of Guilty Pleasures. I’m so glad we have it now

[@themermaidmak]

In regards to the nicknames in the yoga scene. The mum calls Sharpay "Kitten" at first. Then when talking to Ryan, she says "Duckie! How's my dashing boy?" Then she uses another name for Sharpay, "Pumpkin". AND then before she storms off, Sharpay says "OH, Namaste!"

[@harleyharris607]

HSM3 will always be the best one in my opinion and I hope that they watch it. My childhood is literally defined by this franchise. I had a blanket with Troy Boltons face on it

[@kamra8462]

I remember the dance because Disney Channel had the 5 minute cuts in between shows to teach you choreography. Those were the days 😆

[@goldwassa]

ommmggg I forgot about that! 😭 soo good!

[@beckmannm]

EXCELLENT video!!! My favorite HSM fact is that Corbin is an *incredibly* accomplished dancer, and they finally gave him things to do in the second and third movies!

[@Merehalasa]

I’m late but we now need Jarvis back for HSM 3 🤷🏼‍♀️

[@Blackcanvasart]

I love the story they’re creating with Stacy/Sandra/ etc. The sound/stunt double girl 😂

[@tweetthang96]

Okay so! The talent show plot: Kelsie and Gabriela talked Troy into doing the talent show because the staff is allowed to do a number. Sharpay overhears them practicing and tells Ryan to infiltrate. She then steals that song (Music in Me) and wants Troy to do it with her because he’s been promoted from kitchen staff to golf pro. So Kelsie writes a new song for the staff, and Ryan, who’s been tossed aside, joins the staff to do their choreography and perform with them. He then helps them drag Troy away from Sharpay and Troy performs with the staff and Gabriela comes back because she just can’t stay away. EDIT: Bet On Me is spurred by Troy finding out that staff can’t perform in the show, but he’s somehow still allowed because he’s “not the same as them” according to Sharpay. So it’s not that “he and his friends” can’t perform but that his friends can’t perform and he’s somehow getting special treatment he doesn’t want As to Humahuma, the “extended edition” including the song was indeed shown on Disney Channel a couple years after the first airing, and it was released on DVD.

[@_MJ_x]

Jarvis is the best guest and I waited for them to have him for an ep. on the best HSM movie hahaha

[@rheasilvia2787]

ive only seen the title and havent listened to the episode but i can confirm that YES, high school musical 2 is the BEST one

[@sam_597]

Aaaaa jarvisss!!! It's soo cool to see Jarvis here ❤️❤️❤️ Edit: HSM 2 is definitely the best in the series

[@evesrah2117]

IM FROM MAINE! I’m glad this line stuck out to you as much as it did me as a maine child with no Hollywood representation. I always took it as “she’s so rich she’s importing things from the wrong place on purpose cause the famous stuff is below her.” Like maine is known for lobster they flipped it with Turkey as both a country and a meat. And maine rhymes with Spain as you established. We aren’t known for poultry but we do have many awesome farms up here to choose fresh local meat from!

[@amentrison2794]

lol i was shocked to hear that Jarvis didn't like the rock version of "you are the music in me". As a kid, I always liked that version better than the original

[@baemaxbby]

Just started Listening to the Zetus Lepetus podcast where they're reviewing all the DCOMS in order and I"m loving all the DCOM love in the air, I can't get enough of it

[@biancacolmenares620]

Ummm I didn’t know about this and I need to check it out!

[@fradulentghost]

i need the resolution to this trilogy. high school musical 3

[@theringedjewel6895]

When I was in elementary school I remember the whole class was gonna be in a play. I was really young, the class was small. In this play I only had one line. My whole family showed up with flowers and I was so excited then right before I was to go on and say my line the girl already onstage just blurted it out. It was indeed crushing.

[@Evl_enchantress]

I LOVE Sharpay’s version of “You are the music in me” and humuhumunukunukuapua'a (Hawaiis state fish btw) is great 😂😂. Not even ironically.

[@alexandramai]

I laughed and clapped so hard when Kelsey suddenly made that miley voice.

[@FlagCutie]

BUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA!!!! When the boys said that synchronized "me," I felt that lol

[@writerchick94]

Come ON Kelsey, fashion was not like that at the time 😂Disney Channel fashion was soooo specific and the layers were off the hook 😂

[@saraha4972]

in an interview recently, corbin bleu reviewed the i dont dance scene and he admitted there were def some queer overtones

[@Steffunny]

Sharpay’s Big Adventure is incredible.

[@jsco8253]

crying at jarvis doing the choreo jfsjadhasjd

[@LydiaReneeDarling]

First time dropping in on Guilty Pleasures and my musical theatre grad heart is so happy, love seeing Jarvis here! 🎶❤️

[@lydiaraines2649]

Hey! I had to stop by because we have the same first and middle name!! I’ve never met a name twin lol

[@SM-dq3ix]

I've watched this video like 500 times (I'll fall asleep to it a lot) and I'm still shocked there aren't more views on this

[@LemonJMG]

Zach, if you think Bet On It is intense, just you wait until Scream in HSM3

[@emerson1998]

If you didn't SOB singing I gotta go my own way (both parts, somehow, simultaneously), then you need to rewatch it

[@emmyemu33]

I had a "coach Carlos" too Kelsey. Adults need to take responsibility for there reactions

[@peytonsturdivant8392]

I'm 23, and have spent like a year thinking Jarvis was my age and just found out he's 30. I am so shook

[@kelseycopley1542]

How dare you not rememeber that Jason was in the first HSM

[@reyfairburn5023]

Omg sharpay's fabulous adventure was a part of my childhood I totally forgot about until now

[@nicolewilliams5438]

So I just went thru a break up and we would joke tht we were gonna use sum of these songs for out wedding and the reason we broke up is actually really similar to the reason Gabriella and Troy broke up so I haven't been able to watch this movie without crying lol guilty pleasures is the perfect way for me to enjoy the movie again without watching it and getting sad. Thanks guys 💞💞💞 I love this show

[@OhEffiesAudacity]

Kelsey explaining Tampa Palms is incredibly accurate especially Lutz

[@jayceitup3603]

The definition of a guilty pleasure, cant wait to listen

[@SeychelleSunshine]

Jarvis was a great guest, and I enjoyed Zach's energy here.

[@kierrrac]

i actually loved sharpay's fabulous adventure

[@InternetsPedestrian]

HSM 2 is just so memorable and has some of the best songs. Bet On It can never be beat !

[@galgow]

It's time for the third one I crave it

[@bethdavisjimenez]

YES! Adore Jarvis!

[@LisaMarie-K9]

I went to an arts high school (was actually also one of the first ten highschools chosen to preform the stage play of the movie when they were beta testing it before it went to broadway) and let me tell you, the depiction of high school in these movies was actually pretty accurate lmao. Down to the random outbreaks of singing at lunch 🤣

[@riribeasley4741]

JARVY ON A TRYPOD, this is so flipping exciting

[@Ken-zx4ui]

when I was a kid I got my parents to paint Wildcats on my wall in red and white

[@erinw4935]

I like to believe Jarvis and I were watching the HSM2 Dance Along, painstakingly practicing at the same time.

[@marytaylor9001]

This is the episode I’ve been waiting my entire life for.

[@gh0stcup]

where is the HSM3 Senior Year episode featuring Jarvis Johnson (and possibly also Jordan Adika bc their dynamic is everything to me) ????

[@griffin1155]

the dvd release definitely had the hawaiian song and my elementary school self loved it with the ferver that only a child could experience

[@beatrizrocha8773]

I'm so happy Jarvis is here

[@queenk-ia2862]

it has to have been at least 10 years or more sense I've seen high school musical but I still vividly remeber the baseball scene/song

[@gunjan1771]

tbh i loved the humu humu song , its so fun 😂😂😂😂

[@cheskaarana6097]

I'm in love with Kelsey's top outfit.

[@number420dad]

Ik I'm about to repeat everybodies comments but we NEED jarvis back for hsm 3!!!!

[@pusheenqueen519]

I remember being disappointed with the first movie: I love musicals and when this was first aired I was so hyped to see it but ultimately I was like "Huh. Oh. 😕" and I could not get why everyone was so obsessed with HSM. Then the second one came and I just loved it so much. Not so much the story and the acting was fine, but the overall movie was just way more fun and the songs stuck with me so much more. Years later I still listen to the soundtrack now and then.

[@eyeris2992]

I axtually loved HSM2 so much that i actually learned english from it. After watching many times i could turn of the swedish captions and still understand every word 😅

[@samanthamaiden8172]

One of the 4 singing groups at my high school was the golden throats, it was the “concert singing” group

[@scarlettm3889]

I remember I had this movie on vhs recorded from the premiere and then brought it into school and watched it with my whole class. I felt the coolest cause I was the hsm hookup lolll

[@Claireannette77]

I just turned 21 last month and I can stillll sing and dance to I Dont Dance and Bet On it🤣🤣🤣

[@floralvarezr]

Kelsey picking up that Kelsey is gay 👏🏻 the gaydar is popping here

[@dandy10195]

ITS JARVIS!! omg im so happy to see yall do this movie!! its my favorite hsm movie lmao

[@Zeffer32]

I remember learning the hsm2 choreography toooo man such vivid happy memories of dancing to that all for one song, such a hit of nostalgia seeing Jarvis bust out those moves. That and Work it out had the best kinda simple choreography that was easy to pick up so fun!!

[@heyummrandommuch]

wow, in the flesh. i just rewatched the one about the first hsm so this is perfect

[@pinkywinkyx]

Always so fun with Jarvis as an addition!

[@graceherring6628]

I DEFINITELY saw the Hawaiian number in whatever version I watched omg I thought I made it up😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@dd4850]

Excuse me? This was definitely Ryan and Chad’s love story EXCUSE ME

[@kyris66]

I remember when this premiered on Disney Channel. Also, I rolled on the floor laughing the entire time of Bet On It, because that dancing was just so… if you’ve ever seen this children’s music group from Australia called Hi-5… it just reminded me of the two white guys in Hi-5 dancing. It was just so over the top.

[@malaikatinashe]

haven’t hit play. the answer is yes. but i need y’all to see the BUDGET they put behind high school musical 3.

[@pusheenqueen519]

This is so cool I love the Try Guys and I love Jarvis!

[@vangaxoxo]

In Switzerland was the song hummumaku.... Always in the movie.... But we have different cuts in Europe.