Is Hindu hatred the reason of Indo-Pak Partition? Prof. Ishtiaq Ahmed and Shakil Chaudhary

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@drbharatj
@drbharatj Жыл бұрын
I am a Karachi born Hindu.We migrated to India in 1947.My Mother' left cooked meals in the kitchen.We left Karachi in a boat.We were dropped at Kandla port instead of bringing us to Mumbai. I am a Microbiologist and a Dental surgeon too. I am happy that we migrated to India and I don't have to live with JAHILS of Pakistan.
@vikram_shahi
@vikram_shahi Жыл бұрын
Stay blessed
@sidheshwarshendge5846
@sidheshwarshendge5846 Жыл бұрын
Really love u sir
@orunabho
@orunabho Жыл бұрын
Rightly so.
@simba8680
@simba8680 Жыл бұрын
👌👌👌
@toxic5445
@toxic5445 Жыл бұрын
Tunhji héndú dhi khy yahan chacha
@mna7116
@mna7116 Жыл бұрын
I am indian Muslim and most of Hindu r very good with Muslims. I love my India because of its culture.
@ramakantpanchal1536
@ramakantpanchal1536 Жыл бұрын
But very least Muslims are good with Hindus. This is the diffrence
@advaitaveda5671
@advaitaveda5671 Жыл бұрын
Whats the use though? At the end of the day do atleast muslims like u would come in defense of the hindus in areas where they are minority? NO u simply need/want ur hindu neighbours to be good to u where they are majority but simply wouldnt fight against the injustices commited towards hindus by muslims in areas where they have majority. Why is muslim educated, elite and even the so called peaceful population so complicit and spineless to put a simple resistance against something which is wrong? Im jusf curious, is it the fear of being killed by muslim mobs or simple moral bankruptcy?
@567ghj_X
@567ghj_X Жыл бұрын
Ummah matters not regions or Boundries
@Aashu299
@Aashu299 Жыл бұрын
Reverse is not true.
@Aashu299
@Aashu299 Жыл бұрын
@@ramakantpanchal1536 exactly.
@rranjan3439
@rranjan3439 Жыл бұрын
This video is at some different level. I am awe-struck. I am short of words. I will watch it a few more times at least. Seemingly true Facts, Objective reference to history, Unbiased opinions...what more can one expect from a discussion around a matter so sensitive as Indo-Pak relations. A must watch for "rational" people from both the sides of the boundaries. Thank you Tahir Sahab for this content. I am looking forward for more such deliberations with such sensible and pragmatic Intellectuals . Thank you. With regards. Namastey. 🙏
@highhousefoodmart2011
@highhousefoodmart2011 Жыл бұрын
All 3 great legends on one show- absolutely a treat.
@hungryseller
@hungryseller Жыл бұрын
This is what intellectual discussion is, with data points. Kudos to Tahir Sahib, Dr. (Prof) Ahmed, & Mr. Chaudhary.
@ganesannarayanan2047
@ganesannarayanan2047 Жыл бұрын
Wonderful people, great to hear them discuss in a civil manner, compared to cacophony elsewhere. Thank you Tahir ji.
@jsingh6872
@jsingh6872 Жыл бұрын
Very informative
@hassanazad4627
@hassanazad4627 Жыл бұрын
Reading the comments by Indians shows that partition was worth it. Pakistan has to stand on its own feet. With imran khan, this may be possible.
@SandySS0710
@SandySS0710 Жыл бұрын
@@hassanazad4627 same attitude what these intelligent people were lamenting about. Looks like everything went over your head.
@sid5288
@sid5288 Жыл бұрын
Yaar main soch raha tha k inn musalmano se Pakistan k 4 soobey nahi sambhalte To agar inko india ko sambhalna pada to 27 soobe kaise sambhalenge🤣🤣🙏
@zohaibghauri9732
@zohaibghauri9732 Жыл бұрын
Excellent mind changing video for all pakistanis to must watch and learn. Greetings from Lahore Pakistan.
@nationalnewsnetwork1516
@nationalnewsnetwork1516 Жыл бұрын
Sorry Pakistanis can never change their mind for India.
@shreedadarwala7650
@shreedadarwala7650 Жыл бұрын
*Zohaib saheb, afsos, ki aap ke jaisey log pak mein ek **_endangered species_** hain. Matlab itney kam hain ki aapki bat ki koi sunwai hi nahin hai wahan!*
@ShakilChaudhary
@ShakilChaudhary Жыл бұрын
@Zohaib Ghauri, Thanks.
@zohaibghauri9732
@zohaibghauri9732 Жыл бұрын
@@ShakilChaudhary Sir I am very thankful for you, Dr Ishtiaq sir, Tahir Gora sir and all guests on your platform and TAG TV for educating and enlightening us about the reality of Pakistan and India relations, conflicts, history and it's amplications. Greetings from Lahore Pakistan
@zohaibghauri9732
@zohaibghauri9732 Жыл бұрын
@@shreedadarwala7650 you are right brother but you see the only way forward for pakistan is to completely eliminate it's anti hindu mindset in it's state narrative and genral masses and have normal ties with India.
@nehadonde-variar1079
@nehadonde-variar1079 Жыл бұрын
This trio is a treat to watch. Absolute intellectuals Love from India 🇮🇳 God bless
@ratnakrishnan2598
@ratnakrishnan2598 Жыл бұрын
Three incredible people who put humanity above everything else
@rahul_k_a_g
@rahul_k_a_g Жыл бұрын
Dr Ambedkar's book Pakistan Or the Partition of India is also a very good book addressing the issue of partition in detail. It encompasses each and every aspect of partition. Must read for any person interested in partition history and get a good perspective and knowledge on it. Also applause to the panel for such an intellectual dialogue. Both Prof Ishtiaq Sir and Dr. Shakeel Sir were a treat to hear from. Mr Tahir a great host conducting the talk in such a wonderful manner.
@akshatgoyal96
@akshatgoyal96 Жыл бұрын
Totally agree with you Rahul . nobody can reach to the level of Understanding that Dr Ambedkar had regarding Hindu -Muslim and India and Pak and Psyche of sub continent ✌️
@Merasafar2000A
@Merasafar2000A Жыл бұрын
@@akshatgoyal96 yes Bhai the great leader he never even thought about SC ST nation or OBC but asked for betterment of them through education and that is why i believe in education and ambedkar in the level of God
@vivekpuri-08
@vivekpuri-08 Жыл бұрын
Its the most clear thaught expressing and reality check book on partition.
@harshthakur1040
@harshthakur1040 Жыл бұрын
as a brahmin I deeply respect Dr Ambedkar he was very sensed about islamism and psudo secularism of nehru and gandhi when he converted he choosed to accept budhism not leaving the dharmic fold instead of converting into abrahamic faith.
@Broken-Nation
@Broken-Nation Жыл бұрын
As a Pakistani living in USA I must say we need to change the school history curriculum/Syllabus and teach the kids the truth about themselves. We have big identity crisis and Islamic ignorance if not tamed, then Pakistan will domed completely. Neither there will be recovery or rescue. Love the content and must respect to all three intellectual contributors for their honesty and unbiased dialogue.
@mayankindian3750
@mayankindian3750 Жыл бұрын
Hello 😊☺️❤️
@trilokyamohanchakra6351
@trilokyamohanchakra6351 Жыл бұрын
Bhai you forgot one thing , the most important one, the root cause, Islam
@vik56in
@vik56in Жыл бұрын
It was Zia Ul Haq who sowed the seeds of the Pakistan crisis today . In the 1980s, he brought in religious nationalism as the identity for Pakistan. This has made real issues of modern education, health, security , economy get overlooked and go out of the window.
@Broken-Nation
@Broken-Nation Жыл бұрын
@The Journey- Voyage of Life for the most part, I agree.
@Cosmic_Player
@Cosmic_Player Жыл бұрын
​@@trilokyamohanchakra6351You are right, Islam is the root cause, its time for it to answer for Numerous sins committed by its followers in the name of religion
@ielts3009
@ielts3009 Жыл бұрын
I am an IELTS trainer, based in Kolkata. Of late, I have been teaching many students from Pakistan and interacting with them on many issues, apart from IELTS. I find absolutely no bitterness and cordiality. But,, perhaps, all my students are young and highly educated. But, I see no hatred towards India.
@vik56in
@vik56in Жыл бұрын
Lol, Pakistanis are very good at showing their best face forwards and do the best talks. Don't take them at face value.
@SinghAaditya
@SinghAaditya Жыл бұрын
Use the word "Religion" and your eyes will be opened automatically
@YogeshSharma-zy8uz
@YogeshSharma-zy8uz Жыл бұрын
Try living there and you will know.
@ielts3009
@ielts3009 Жыл бұрын
@@YogeshSharma-zy8uz I don't have to live anywhere, to understand minds. People like you will find Hitler an evil man, but there has been not a single leader in the history of mankind who could convert a nation from the very bottom to the power which could advance in every sphere, just in a span of a decade or less. But, people like you have a closed mind.
@leenajohn136
@leenajohn136 3 ай бұрын
Please correct me if I’m wrong how23%hindus come 1% 428 temples during partition comes to 10th at also in ruins
@iqbalathwal9933
@iqbalathwal9933 Жыл бұрын
Tahir, what a wonderful program. Your program contents are always good, but today it's wonderful. Every single sentence of the contents deserves thumbs up. It was really really good contents. Bring these intellectuals together more often. Also sincere appreciation to Five Rivers Forum to help put it together.
@ajitwelling
@ajitwelling Жыл бұрын
Soon Modi will stiffle Pakistan by squeezing these five rivers...
@arjunKaisaAbhi
@arjunKaisaAbhi Жыл бұрын
This is what we call an Intellectual Discussions. 🇮🇳 media can also learn from this…🙏
@asangha182
@asangha182 Жыл бұрын
What a treat, three of our favourite personalities together in one frame.. This is going to be special.. I believe Ishtiaq sahib and Shakil sahib are in Canada for the 5 Rivers Friendship forum. All three are much loved in India...I think we owe a vote of thanks to Arvind Saharan for introducing these two gems, Ishtiaq sahib and Shakil sahib, to Indian audiences.Ganganagar waaleyo 🙏.
@ramahluwalia9569
@ramahluwalia9569 Жыл бұрын
Very intlectual discussion.but I regret to note that very basic and primary reason of enmity between both is typical interpretation of Koran in pak.
@ramahluwalia9569
@ramahluwalia9569 Жыл бұрын
True it is a garison state.
@ShakilChaudhary
@ShakilChaudhary Жыл бұрын
@A B S S: Thanks for your words of appreciation.
@bandusolanke8941
@bandusolanke8941 Жыл бұрын
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@Vk-sk7nm
@Vk-sk7nm Жыл бұрын
Hum bhi Rajasthani 🙏
@siddharthaganguli5299
@siddharthaganguli5299 Жыл бұрын
Very insightful discussion! Thanks for taking us through depths of history and enlightening us. Looking forward to more such interactions.
@abuabu2434
@abuabu2434 9 ай бұрын
محترم طائر صاحب رب کریم آپ کو اجر کریم عطا فرمائے اتنے عظیم لوگوں کے علم اور خیالات کو مجھ جیسے کم علم اور بہت سے تاریخ سے ناآشنا لوگوں کو درست سمت کی طرف راغب کرنے کا شکریہ
@zehrason
@zehrason Жыл бұрын
Really a thought provoking discussion , thanks to all participants
@jamshedfbc
@jamshedfbc Жыл бұрын
Prof Ishtiaq: always data-driven and factual analysis. Shakil sahab: Amazing 😍
@JaySiyaRamForAll
@JaySiyaRamForAll Жыл бұрын
In this Situation we can not Trust on You All the Time Pakistani Govt Poke Nife in the Back of India
@DK-dq8bu
@DK-dq8bu Жыл бұрын
Send the Pakistani army back to the barracks to solve the problems
@shomabhattacharya7515
@shomabhattacharya7515 Жыл бұрын
And Tahir Sir is at his gentlemanly best.
@kolardorpe3161
@kolardorpe3161 4 ай бұрын
Prof need to know the political ideology of Islam (Muslims)that threatens Hindus on Hindus prospective. His recent trip to Bharat miserably failed. In which world he is living I don't know. Prophably he might have cell difficiancy in his brain.
@KararaJawaab
@KararaJawaab 4 ай бұрын
Prof. Ishtiaq is data-driven & does factual analysis on history. But, He's too much idealistic & Eutopian for current era.
@rajansundara3283
@rajansundara3283 Жыл бұрын
I am from South India. I have learnt many information. My salutation to all three of you. Super discussion.
@hasanmiraj6182
@hasanmiraj6182 7 ай бұрын
my parents migrated from india to pakistan and i am so happy they did when i see the plight of muslims in india today
@leenajohn136
@leenajohn136 3 ай бұрын
Salman Shahrukh Amir sab Beth mangrein hai .kitne INDIAN MUSLIMS PAKISTAN KI CITIZENSHIP KEH LIYE APPLY KIYEIN HAI
@harris566
@harris566 Ай бұрын
Not even one Indian Muslim will come to Pakistan even if you offer Citizenship . Indian muslims are most peaceful blessed happy among whole muslim world.
@hasanmiraj6182
@hasanmiraj6182 23 күн бұрын
@@harris566 what a great lie and disinformation
@harris566
@harris566 23 күн бұрын
@@hasanmiraj6182 ....Has any body gone ???? But Pakistan minorities came in large numbers..
@bijendersinghrawat
@bijendersinghrawat Жыл бұрын
Good to see all three of you at one stage and to understand our history......thanks 🙏
@ramarao8032
@ramarao8032 Жыл бұрын
It's a unique experience to have three gems in one frame. great discussion . Thanks Tahir Saab
@drtapasroy8024
@drtapasroy8024 Жыл бұрын
Thanks to Prof. Ishtiaq Ahmed, Janab Shakil Chaudhary and Janab Tahir Gora for presenting such a great discussion. These intellectuals having vivid knowledge and huge R&D work behind in Indo-pak relations today probably touched a new height in their own right.
@rajpaldhankhar8897
@rajpaldhankhar8897 Жыл бұрын
What a beautiful and true analysis of Indo Pak relationship by Professor Istiyaq Ahmed, Mr. Shakeel Choudhary and Mr. Tahir Gora.
@indrajitgupta3280
@indrajitgupta3280 Жыл бұрын
He not only mentions the contributions of Hindus to the infrastructure of Lahore, but also mentions the deep study of the Koran Sharif by Hindu intellectuals, including some who became Hafeez, and reminds us of the Husseini Brahmins, whose courage and bravery is so well known to all. Marvellous expression of a broad-minded and generous point of view.
@navinbhatia
@navinbhatia Жыл бұрын
This is one of the best non-biased discussions I have heard in a long time with the esteemed Dr. Ahmed and Mr. Chaudhary. Thank you Mr. Gora for arranging and sharing this wonderful discussion with all of us. Unfortunately I don't see any peace forthcoming from Pakistan as they have been living in an utopia which will not materialize. In the meantime the military and mullahs own the bankrupt country and democracy lies in a dirty ditch somewhere, the people suffer and life goes on. India has carried on and progressed and will continue to achieve more development, power and respect in the world. Wish things were simpler.
@jojijoseph6485
@jojijoseph6485 Жыл бұрын
Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued. Quran 9:29
@davenickle8783
@davenickle8783 Жыл бұрын
The best show that I have watched so far in my lifetime!!! Big eye opener . I seriously hope and pray that Pakistan is blessed with leaders with brains !!!
@_oo.monkeypox.oo_3344
@_oo.monkeypox.oo_3344 Жыл бұрын
Indian media should have discussions like this instead of yelling and shouting without allowing a thought to seep into hearts and minds.Kudos to these professors.
@trilokyamohanchakra6351
@trilokyamohanchakra6351 Жыл бұрын
You'll not find Muslims leadership which is as calm as this group
@aditibhardwaj8790
@aditibhardwaj8790 Жыл бұрын
Indian social media is far better and vast. Watch jaipur dialogue channel on KZbin
@nageshsharma9366
@nageshsharma9366 Жыл бұрын
Historical speech of 3 in 1. ZABARDUST, ❤ & regards to all of you from the people of 🇮🇳.
@javedfazal59
@javedfazal59 Жыл бұрын
Respected professors, existential threat /hate Idia / Kashmir is the policy of the ruling elite being carried since long and its in their interest to maintain the status quo . So one can only dream of better times!
@nandasologar9731
@nandasologar9731 Жыл бұрын
Muslims learnt thatThey were born to dominate and enslave Hindus.That is thew driving force that led to their notions of Muslim superiority buttressed by their sense of having ruled "India" for 700+/- over Hindus.Really fooling themselves as History and current state of Pk shows.Jinnah was a narrow-minded fool!
@ajay262134
@ajay262134 Жыл бұрын
Agreed, but almost all Pakistani awaam follow and reflect on their elite's narrative. Elites are just 1-2% of any given nations population, who control majority resources and assets of the nation, but problem with Pakistan is no one is ready to stand up against their elites's rule. Even after realising that "this is not true".
@varinderkumardahda7819
@varinderkumardahda7819 Жыл бұрын
A very informatic healthy discussion. Kudos to all three great historian. Such people are the best for new generation to read and follow
@praweengupta4612
@praweengupta4612 Жыл бұрын
Best video.... Love and respect from India🇮🇳
@polupinku
@polupinku Жыл бұрын
Two of the greatest thinkers and a great most intellectual host 🏵️.
@MrDNair-nn4dd
@MrDNair-nn4dd Жыл бұрын
Tahir sir, I just love the way you speak... So polite and humble... I am a Delhi person so polite is not there... And yes Ishtiaq sir and Shakil sir were so brilliant at making us understand their point of view with references... I hope Pakistani people do watch your videos a lot and are getting educated meanwhile... Respect 🙏
@jagajeevandasshettykodiyal4633
@jagajeevandasshettykodiyal4633 Жыл бұрын
Excellent discussion and analysis. Very informative for the present generation.
@gayatriganesh84
@gayatriganesh84 Жыл бұрын
A very detailed and factual discussion. Also very respectful and measured. Lovely episode. I just hope both countries can work together for a better future
@jyalmensidhho4619
@jyalmensidhho4619 Жыл бұрын
Greetings from the west coast of Canada and thank you for your valuable information. It's a pleasure to listen to you all. I've listened to Professor Ishtiaq Ahmed and Tahir Gora before. It's the first time I've seen Shakil Chaudhary. Again - a pleasure.
@ishanbhardwaj3256
@ishanbhardwaj3256 Жыл бұрын
shakil chaudhary is a gem of a person..you must follow his youtube channel with same name
@ishanbhardwaj3256
@ishanbhardwaj3256 Жыл бұрын
the critical patriot is the name of shakils sahabs youtube channel
@jyalmensidhho4619
@jyalmensidhho4619 Жыл бұрын
@@ishanbhardwaj3256 Thanks
@jyalmensidhho4619
@jyalmensidhho4619 Жыл бұрын
@@ishanbhardwaj3256 Thanks
@ShakilChaudhary
@ShakilChaudhary Жыл бұрын
@Jyalmen Sidhho, Thanks for your compliment. Let me introduce the Five Rivers Friendship Forum to you and other friends. kzbin.info/www/bejne/a3yZlJiFaL96bbM
@hotmail28
@hotmail28 Жыл бұрын
It is very informed and worthy discussion between all of three great intellectuals and a lot of things to learn.
@anilsakrepatna
@anilsakrepatna Жыл бұрын
One of the finest and enlightening discussion , thanks Tahir Gora Sir 🙏
@sachikantamohanty463
@sachikantamohanty463 Жыл бұрын
Political scientists of highest order..my regards to Istiaq sir & Shakeel sir🙏 what a sync between the anchor & the esteemed guests....now days such type of interview is very rarely seen 🙏👍 Tahir sir, thank you so much.
@debasishmukherjee4979
@debasishmukherjee4979 Жыл бұрын
Wonderful conversation indeed !!! At least there are a few Pakistanis who don't fear to confess the truth !!! 👍👍👍
@atulkaul9665
@atulkaul9665 Жыл бұрын
Those lucky souls stay abroad.
@NazirAhmed-zg1rp
@NazirAhmed-zg1rp Жыл бұрын
Very informative talks
@TimKono500
@TimKono500 Жыл бұрын
What a brilliant piece of history lesson
@pranabsen6372
@pranabsen6372 Жыл бұрын
Thanks lot to all three great persons. Learn many things of the history of Division of subcontinent. Discussion should continue in future.
@panthervenom7310
@panthervenom7310 Жыл бұрын
I have never seen such a well integrated discussion. Hats off 🙏🙏
@rameshchander7041
@rameshchander7041 Жыл бұрын
Sir, I feel very positively satisfied after viewing your noble untired efforts to improve relations between India and Pakistan. Sir please don't be desperate because you are serving the humanity with heart and soul along with physically . Chand milta nahin sabko sansar mein,he diya hee bahut roshni ke liye. Thanks
@rajgoswami9805
@rajgoswami9805 Жыл бұрын
Really impressed with the quality discussion. Thanks for sharing this
@anwarpasha5198
@anwarpasha5198 Жыл бұрын
Insightful. Already t o hear u all.
@rajeshkothekar6920
@rajeshkothekar6920 Жыл бұрын
Very very neutral discussion, excellent, but changing radical mindset is impossible Sir
@Only86PursuedQuranRestBySword
@Only86PursuedQuranRestBySword Жыл бұрын
Join #Sachwala .
@donaldtramp38
@donaldtramp38 Жыл бұрын
Rajesh भाई ये discussions हो रही है क्यूंकि पाकिस्तान की fatti पडी है. पाकिस्तान को aaj China का साथ khulkar मिल जाए तो यहीं KZbinr intellectual नहीं kahunga इनको यहीं China का gungan kar rahe होते.
@rishavkumar1250
@rishavkumar1250 Жыл бұрын
@@donaldtramp38 yeh log Pakistan Liberals hai
@donaldtramp38
@donaldtramp38 Жыл бұрын
@@rishavkumar1250 ghante के Liberal
@rishavkumar1250
@rishavkumar1250 Жыл бұрын
@@donaldtramp38 Tujhe aisa लगता hoga, Muslim विरुद्ध hote होते ab toh common sense ke विरुद्ध bhi ho gaye 😂
@jamilmalik6296
@jamilmalik6296 Жыл бұрын
An excellent interaction. I was pleasantly surprised by such balanced views shared by the two guests. There IS hope for Pakistan.
@RojaJaneman
@RojaJaneman Жыл бұрын
I don’t have any
@sumitranjan4167
@sumitranjan4167 Жыл бұрын
Main problem is : Is**l*am. Wherever this is there , there is no peace and only poverty, violence.
@ajitwelling
@ajitwelling Жыл бұрын
No hope for Pakistan and Islam...
@arian1569
@arian1569 Жыл бұрын
Congratulations, you all three should be invited and share these historical facts to our citizens ..both Muslim and Hindu including all Sikhs, Bengalis . That will help all to understand historical as well as current and it will definitely help all of us citizens to stay with more peace , love and understanding.
@arvindchandra8457
@arvindchandra8457 Жыл бұрын
All the 3 experts (including the Interviewer); are simply superb! My compliments & salute to them! As a Indian nationalist Indian - fully supporting our present Government stand; I visualise that Indo-Pak issue can be fully resolved - for the benefit to both our countries; if your esteemed views can be guidelines for Pakistan Government! Thanks! 🙏
@msms3260
@msms3260 Жыл бұрын
Wow! What an amazingly honest conversation. True heroes, all three. I am hardline, but have melted after this. Irrespective of whether we see relationships improve between two countries in our lifetime, all of you have healed and grown yourselves by acknowledging the truth. And carved this path for others too if they want to walk on it. If there is life beyond you all have earned a honorable seat in it. Lives being well lived indeed. The least all the viewers can do is include these gentlemen in their prayers for their well being. Thank you dear Sirs. Be safe and well.
@Vk-sk7nm
@Vk-sk7nm Жыл бұрын
But the sad part is majority of the Pakistani population don't listen to these gems. And don't pay any heed. Their discussion heals all the wounds of past and melt us, but the reality is different. Pakistani Punjabi Sunni Muslim have immense hatred for Hindus and India. And this is 💯 truth.
@mdsundriyal
@mdsundriyal Жыл бұрын
@@Vk-sk7nm Can relations between the two countries improve or normalise now? If not, the reason? To me, the three panelists have pointed at them but not stated bluntly. The panelists have agreed that the two nation theory has failed and that Pakistan was created on the basis of hatred. But there are two more reasons which go along with these. First, the elites and politicians of Pakistan have painted Bharat as their enemy no.1 and towards this end they have made Hindus as enemies of Islam. Second, the elites and politicians of Pakistan have foisted on the Pakistani madarsa system of education. This has stunted the rationale thinking of the Pakistanis. Third, again, the elites and politicians of Pakistan have allowed the fringe to become the mainstream. These three ailments have afflicted the muslim intelligentsia of Bharat too. Sadly, Bharat is following suit in one aspect (I am talking of Hinndus). The fringe in Bharat is, more and more, asserting as the mainstream. I shudder to think of the consequences for Bharat if this trend continues for 10 years.
@nandasologar9731
@nandasologar9731 Жыл бұрын
I have never accepted Jinnah's. pathetic EXCUSE for Partition! Beyond that I even suspect Jinnah's plot to marry his friend;'s daughter and how he set his friend up to surrender Rattna Bai!
@nandasologar9731
@nandasologar9731 Жыл бұрын
Rattan Bai!
@induchopra3014
@induchopra3014 Жыл бұрын
Bengalis punjabis have suffered partition. Not all india. Kashmiris are still suffering. Hindu muslim is not a problem, problem is poverty , colonization, British
@rajatrat
@rajatrat Жыл бұрын
Kya baat hai sir. Great to see u all together and having this great discussion.All the best to your new initiative on 5 river friendship.
@rajivmishra9614
@rajivmishra9614 Ай бұрын
Discussion between intellectual people... Only facts no useless talk Please keep doing this kind of podcasts Love from India ❤❤
@manoharjha2346
@manoharjha2346 Жыл бұрын
Fantastic discussion.love to hear next time.
@atulmittal5809
@atulmittal5809 Жыл бұрын
What a treat to watch Prof Ishtiyaq, Dr Shakeel and Gora saheb physically deliberating Indo-Pak relations!! Well done Five River Freindship Forum and Sharma Saheb🙏🙏
@tapankumarpanda4689
@tapankumarpanda4689 Жыл бұрын
Salute to all 3 luminaries Great thinking Tough introspection Unfortunately out of homeland 🙏🙏
@pushpabhatia6666
@pushpabhatia6666 Жыл бұрын
What a highly intelectual discussion and extremely fair, pleasure to participate
@pawandudi5306
@pawandudi5306 9 ай бұрын
Sir, you are right `अखँड भारत` विशवास और प्यार से रहे!
@rajivramanjani8706
@rajivramanjani8706 Жыл бұрын
Very enlightening conversation with two highly knowledgeable panelists. Good job by the host as well. I got to know many facets of history that were unknown to me
@knots1975
@knots1975 Жыл бұрын
Just finished Prof. Istiaqs book on Jinnah. Very detailed, open minded, vivid and scholarly. We are lucky to have him at this discussion.
@drsubashn4025
@drsubashn4025 Жыл бұрын
Tahir sab , this video is simply superb. No words to describe how good it is. I wish you will organise more discussions bringing these two gentlemen together. Thanks to you and to them. Fountain of history knowledge
@JSGill-jg6zv
@JSGill-jg6zv Жыл бұрын
I am delighted to listen this very informative discussion. More so speakers were unbiased and gave true picture. My salute to all of you
@sumithrasithan6951
@sumithrasithan6951 Жыл бұрын
Conversation is v truthful, n v ery healthy conversation with good scholars love ❤from India
@qadeerakthar8437
@qadeerakthar8437 Жыл бұрын
From all three, well said. GOD BLESS YOU ALL.
@amiindra
@amiindra Жыл бұрын
What is the use?
@ishtpreetsingh9090
@ishtpreetsingh9090 Жыл бұрын
I appreciate all of you... We all r Indian's...
@pemduptsheringlepcha688
@pemduptsheringlepcha688 Жыл бұрын
Great discussion of the great peoples. Big salute from Sikkim India 🇮🇳🇮🇳🇮🇳🌺🌹💐💞💞💞
@thinkingcitizen
@thinkingcitizen Ай бұрын
Sikkim is integral part of India ❤ land of Dhamma
@rohitshanker8878
@rohitshanker8878 Жыл бұрын
I am really feeling proud that listening three great thinkers and most intellectual personalities of Pakistan
@1aarora
@1aarora Жыл бұрын
Why are you proud? What is your achievement? Listening to them?
@exmullarangilarasul
@exmullarangilarasul Жыл бұрын
@@1aarora भाई मूर्ख जाहिल हिंदू ऐसे ही होते हैं।
@Pearls103
@Pearls103 Жыл бұрын
@@1aarora Deep down… the speakers love Pakistan and are having this discussion for the benefit of Pakistan and not India. I think he meant he is proud of India, which is fine.
@1aarora
@1aarora Жыл бұрын
@@Pearls103 how kind that you want to interpret someone else’s statement for me. I think I’m fine in the field of reading comprehension. Is he under 18 yrs of age and not responsible for his actions that you feel the need to clarify his statement. Pride/being proud, is a very strong subjective feeling. Should one be proud (Hindi-Ghamandi) at all? If yes, then only of one’s achievements. How can one be proud of someone else’s achievements remains a mystery to me.
@rishavkumar1250
@rishavkumar1250 Жыл бұрын
@@1aarora Arora sahib, thora thand rakhiye
@jasleen155
@jasleen155 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this important and unbiased dialogue!
@vaibhavaunique
@vaibhavaunique Жыл бұрын
Many many thanks for this treat Tahir ji... To see 3 knowledgeable and veteran persons together was a treat for me... As you said, keep on doing programs with these 2 scholars.
@vinod.19
@vinod.19 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the show.
@minijha946
@minijha946 Жыл бұрын
Such a great conversation
@VU2GA
@VU2GA Жыл бұрын
What a great talk/ discussion. True knowledge has been shared. A lot of things from the past have come through this discussion. Thanks to all of you for such an honest review.
@ranadixit3950
@ranadixit3950 Жыл бұрын
Gora sahab , Kamal ka episode hai ye , mja aa gaya . Thank for this program.
@debasishroy9388
@debasishroy9388 Жыл бұрын
Wonderful! Lovely podcast; want more of the same. Please!
@sunilkulkarni583
@sunilkulkarni583 Жыл бұрын
Great to hear that, two scholars giving true facts about our relationship with Pakistan.
@mrramanpoonam
@mrramanpoonam Жыл бұрын
There can be no program better than this on these issues. Kudos to all participants.
@periumasankar
@periumasankar Жыл бұрын
Sensible points put forward by three sensible persons. Hope peace prevails in these countries
@shamimsagar6903
@shamimsagar6903 Жыл бұрын
Awesome discussion much respect for professor Dr Ishtiaq jee and all of you
@sachinshrotri2501
@sachinshrotri2501 Жыл бұрын
Nice discussion 👍 All the panelists are great intellectuals and perfect humanists.
@sabinbharali1339
@sabinbharali1339 Жыл бұрын
Legendry episode. Three pillar of intellectual together. Thnks to Tahir saab. Love and respect From India 🙏🏻🇮🇳😎
@RAVI22ize
@RAVI22ize Жыл бұрын
Cheema ko bhi bulawo yaha
@rakechas
@rakechas Жыл бұрын
@@RAVI22ize Arrest karke ?
@sourav2124
@sourav2124 Жыл бұрын
@@RAVI22ize wo aajkal rana ayuub ko date kar raha hai.
@kalpeshsachala276
@kalpeshsachala276 Жыл бұрын
@@sourav2124 😄😄😄😄😄
@unknown1o23
@unknown1o23 Жыл бұрын
@@sourav2124 😂😂😂😂
@Artsupplied24
@Artsupplied24 Жыл бұрын
What a discussion. Really loved it. Please keep it up...
@sonalirawat4342
@sonalirawat4342 Жыл бұрын
Learned more about history than history books through this conversation.
@abeninan4017
@abeninan4017 Жыл бұрын
History books are all lies whitewashing congress.
@santanuc05
@santanuc05 10 ай бұрын
It is indeed a treat to listen from the most intellectuals Dr. Prof. Ishtiaq Sir. And Shakeel Sir. You are our last hopes in this subcontinent during this disturbing time. Thank You Sir. My Pronam.
@ratansalve7615
@ratansalve7615 Жыл бұрын
Nice topics and good discussion. Thanks to all of you for narrating important issues of the region in view of past, future & present.
@tolykozin
@tolykozin Жыл бұрын
beautifully said, may Pakistan continue to produce men of such high intellectual capacity, they can see beyond the narrow teachings of madrassas! God bless you all!
@pankajpanwar9495
@pankajpanwar9495 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for such an honest, informed and well intended discussion!
@brijpahuja2339
@brijpahuja2339 Жыл бұрын
True and highly appericiable debate, god bless the team.
@poonamkapoorvasudeva805
@poonamkapoorvasudeva805 Жыл бұрын
I have been listening to all three eminent gentlemen...Mr. Gora TAG TV for many many years ..and recently in the last 2 years Dr.Ishtiaq Ahmed and Mr. Shakil Chaudhry very regularly when they began their KZbin channels ....and have a huge respect and liking for all of them. It is such a relief to listen to such calm and rational voices and I hope that they can achieve the peace and harmony and actually the simple fun and laughter that indeed we can share ...Indians and Pakistanis...after all ...we are of the same land. I fully support the new venture of the Five Rivers Friendship project.
@sushilsrivastava9036
@sushilsrivastava9036 Жыл бұрын
Great to see three great personalities together in one frame delightful discussion & their concerns keep alive My full support 🙏
@siddbanerji2404
@siddbanerji2404 Жыл бұрын
What a grand three personalities educated,decent,emancipated and ready to move forward.
@govindnarayandixit9267
@govindnarayandixit9267 Жыл бұрын
आप तीनों विद्वान बहुत काबिलेतारीफ हैं। बहुतबहुत शुक्रिया।
@rajeshmaratha3970
@rajeshmaratha3970 Жыл бұрын
Itni badiya debate aaitak kabi nhi dekhi, Thanks a lot for showing this show
@somzcall123
@somzcall123 Жыл бұрын
One of the best discussions I have ever seen. Thanks for your effort!
@sandeepdasgupta1584
@sandeepdasgupta1584 Жыл бұрын
Fantastic. I'm indebted to learn so much.
@m_varun_leo
@m_varun_leo 9 ай бұрын
Awesome interview ❤ Data Driven and highly informative ❤
@kiney0713
@kiney0713 Жыл бұрын
Fantastic conversation. Great insights. 🙏🏽🙏🏽
@gautamkrishnan1061
@gautamkrishnan1061 Жыл бұрын
Have seen 25 mins..Nice to see reasonable voices... Straight forward..and from the heart..
@parryismful
@parryismful Жыл бұрын
What a mature and rare discussion .I like the honesty and views of panelists regarding the partition and future of this region.
@anilmishra4882
@anilmishra4882 Жыл бұрын
Surprising but very pleasing .....to listen all three of you .....Mr Bashani and Tarek Fatah ji would be one day part of this kind of gathering
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