Is Hudson's bay flint and steel kit worth the price

[@waveman0]

smart putting the piece of leather on top of the contents, as that is the inherent weakness of these kits, the magnifying glass can get scratched from the contents on the inside if you do not do this. I use mine just to house char cloth, and use the magnifying glass to ember the char cloth. I then combine this kit with other tins (a 1700's tinder box tin and 1790 tobacco tin) all in a possibles pouch as a traditional fire kit.

[@pjf883]

The Tin is great ! I did that very thing,just bought the Tin.It is cool. Already had my Flint Steel from CoalCracker and Pathfinder .Made my own Char out of old blue jeans. I doing Tshirt next.Then punkwood which we have lots.Trying all 3 to see which is Best. Always looking for something new.Thx

[@PineMartyn]

Thanks for that review. I have considered getting the Hudson Bay kit as a present for my wife, but you helped me see that such a kit, though aesthetically charming, has no practical advantages over a charring kit one would put together oneself. I'm liking your channel, by the way, so subbed. Cheers, - Martin

[@AdventureTimeOutdoors]

PineMartyn exactly my thoughts. I found it annoying that I had to carry 2 tins instead of 1. It got me thinking and led me to do this video. I will be attempting to make my own steel in the near future. Hopefully it will be a decent tool. I like your channel name. Pine Martins are adorable little assassin's. I checked out your channel and subbed ya back. good work

[@PineMartyn]

Adventure Time Outdoors Thanks for the subscription. I'm looking forward to watching your videos on the hand drill. I've become fairly proficient with bow drill fires, but I've not yet gotten a coal using the hand drill. I'm hoping I pick up some tips from your videos. Cheers, - Martin.

[@AdventureTimeOutdoors]

PineMartyn I am no master but if you ever have any questions you are welcome to contact me any time

[@PineMartyn]

Adventure Time Outdoors I might take you up on that. My thanks, - Martin

[@survivaleveryday7693]

I Appreciate the information I've been looking at the Hudson Bay as well as others similar to the Pathfinder kit. Thanks for the video

[@johnndavis7647]

First . The Hudson Bay tin was not originally a fire kit. It was and is a tobacco tin. Everyone smoked a pipe back in those days. The lens was for lighting your pipe. I dont smoke so i use mine for a fire kit. I have flint in a small Crown Royal bag to protect the lens. Also a fire steel. A little char cloth and a few strike anywhere matches a few splinters of fatwood and a bidthday candle. John Davis jax fl

[@AdventureTimeOutdoors]

I am aware of the history of the tin. I am happy I bought it but wish I bought the tin for $30 instead of the kit for $60 before tax and shipping. The kit that came in the tin was definitely not worth $30. I made my own steel to put in my kit and it out performs both of them.

[@jasonedwardledburynewzeala9897]

Amadou processing video would be interesting.

[@MarkYoungBushcraft]

Great video as usual. I like the looks of the Hudson's Bay kit for nostalgic reasons only. Cannot see spending money on one. My kit is a shoe polish tin with a broken file, quartz (no flint in Nova Scotia) and char cloth made from cotton place mats. I carry a Fresnel lens for solar ignition

[@AdventureTimeOutdoors]

Mark Young I love the look of it and I thought it would be nice to upgrade some pieces of my kit. Unfortunately this wasn't really an upgrade. To be honest because of the price I did think I would be getting a high quality set....nope! Nice to look at though! Thanks for watching by the way great job on that forester review. Looks like a great knife.

[@petemcpherson2259]

Good video, I have been wanting a Hudson Bay tobacco tin for awhile but the cheapest I've seen them is $44 USD, I don't know why they're so expensive it must be due to popularity.

[@AdventureTimeOutdoors]

Pete McPherson I struggled with this for a while before I bought the kit. Really in the end I really liked the look of it and bought it. In the I am happy with my purchase. It can't always be about functionality its alright to have some nice things too. Many people start with a mora and later up grade to a more expencive, better looking but equally functional knife. I find it a little expencive but I am glad I have it. Thanks for watching.

[@RobertFireLionBlueHawkWinkler]

My kit contains charred denim, flint (chert), and piece of an old file. Not fancy, but usable. It works, and that's what counts.

[@AdventureTimeOutdoors]

Robert Winkler sure does. denim is the best material to char in my opinion. I will be making my own steel in the near future. Hopefully it will work well.

[@southpawbushcraft7522]

I LOVE my Hudson Bay tin. I know the pathfinder is just as good. It was a conflicting decision for me too. But I ended up getting the Hudson Bay Tin as a birthday gift. I got the whole kit with all the goodies in it. In the end, I think I would have gone with the Hudson Bay just because I really love that tin over the altoids tin the Pathfinder one comes in. Its functional and its just cool LOL

[@AdventureTimeOutdoors]

SouthPaw Bushcraft your kit was really nice though. I don't think it came with the same stuff as mine. If I remember correctly it had a better steel in it and better quality char cloth aswell. if I was to do it all over I would probably just buy the tin and put my pathfinder steel and my own charcloth in it. I was just expecting better tools in an expensive kit like that.

[@elohansen8971]

The tvisted Chard cloth in Hudson's bay Flint and Steel, are made by twist.

[@LeeRalph100]

I really like their cases/tin. I think the price was a bit steep!! But it did work ok. Thanks for the review!!

[@gordonmurdoch3811]

I enjoyed the video and found it very informative. I was amused when you used a firesteel to light the wood stove to char your cloth and amadou; there's more than one way to skin a cat. All the best.

[@DeanO]

Great demonstration. I have the Hudson bay firesteel and never use it

[@KevinsAdventures]

Awesome video man, you really know your stuff. Thanks for showing the technique for using the false tinder fungus, I will definitely try that out. You almost lost your eyebrows when the nest finally combusted...lol Thanks for the demo and I'm in the market for a flint & steel kit, you definitely gave me some food for thought.

[@AdventureTimeOutdoors]

Kevin's Adventures lol true. the birch was so wet when it finally dried out enough it was like it exploded. just another tip. It is better NOT to dry out the false tinder fungus before charing. It will take a spark better when chard straight off the tree

[@KevinsAdventures]

Nice man, repetition is the mother of all learning.

[@sixstring12]

Nice video, and it was great to see the amadou fungus charred. Plus I see it will last a long time. The curled steel looks like it was made in a CNC water jet machine, but I see it works well. The U shape was made by bending the steel in a cold state before heat treat and that works well also. So neither steel was hand forged which is fine. I know that people that have been using flint and steels for a long time like the fancy hand forged ones and it takes a lot of skill and work to make them spark well and to look symmetrical etc... so one would pay more for a hand forged steel. To heat treat them correctly one at a time is an amazing amount of work. The best steels are hardened and then tempered so that if the steel is dropped it will not break in half. Keep up the great work on the videos. Cheers

[@AdventureTimeOutdoors]

sixstring12 thanks brother. I have tried to make my own. and they do spark well but they are ugly. The one with the curls on the end does look to be water jet cut. There is no stamping burr on it. wouldn't be bad if it did though. Would have been a great Ferro rod striker as well as a steel. Stop by any time. Take care Mark

[@sixstring12]

I sell also, But I'm continuously working on trying to find char cloth material to make and sell in very high quantities. Cotton jean strips work well but only catches a spark on the edge or you need to strike the steel many times to get it to catch the spark in the middle, Muslin cotton works great but you can';t over cook it cause it gets too brittle, monks cloth is the best material to buy but it's very expensive, etc.. Again I'm talking about high volume sales where you include char cloth. The amadou is great to char as you have shown but it's very time consuming to cut away. Other higher quality cotton is tightly woven so it does not work as well as muslin material. So I'm actually going to get some monks cloth today at the fabric store with a coupon lol. They sometimes ask me what I'm going to do with the material and I tell them (I'm a gonna burn it!) lol

[@AdventureTimeOutdoors]

sixstring12 one of my favorite things to char is a normal cotton face cloth or towel. those catch an easy spark and can be found cheap. give that a try

[@highlandtrekker]

I love those tins...I wish the lens came off and the cap had a small pin hole in it so you could use it as your char tin also. Thanks for sharing

[@AdventureTimeOutdoors]

Kijika Life that would be a great idea. thanks for watching brother.

[@highlandtrekker]

+Adventure Time Outdoors You seem to be good at rigging things so I thought it could make a good project. Although at $60.00 it's not something you'd want to mess up lol

[@markcash2]

You can buy those tobacco tins without the magnifying glass....I'll find a link for you..... here are some, but don't just look here, there are other options out there on the interwebz. www.tdcmfgstore.com/agora.cgi?product=Boxes

[@m005kennedy]

Very good detail on the mushroom.

[@shovelhead8]

Cool always has a price. I could not bring myself to pay it. Thank you for the video, Mark

[@dgdavis1600]

Another great video, thanks for posting. If you have time I would be interested in seeing the ash boiling method.

[@AdventureTimeOutdoors]

dg davis I will do it just don't know when I can fit it in

[@davidpglosson244]

What is the model of the battery operated fan that you used for your stove?

[@mr.fisher3973]

Great video - I had some reserves about the price before I bought mine, but pulled the trigger and I am glad I did - I just love the look - very classic look to it and just the right size.

[@AdventureTimeOutdoors]

GoFeesh 85 I like the tin and love the look. but after seeing many reviews on how good the kit was I was expecting more for the price. I think it is better to buy the tin and build or make your kit. Just thought it was dissapointing to put average tools in an exceptional tin. I will just slowly start replacing the tools with my own custom creations. thanks for watching

[@mr.fisher3973]

agreed - that is what I did.

[@msilverhammer]

You sir are a master fire starter! I don't care what those people in Quebec have been saying about you! :)

[@AdventureTimeOutdoors]

Msilverhammer lol thanks brother. I know all about those guys from Quebec.....I'm one of them. lol

[@msilverhammer]

Ahhh, then it must be those guys down at the local pub! ;)

[@AdventureTimeOutdoors]

Msilverhammer yup sounds about right. Lol

[@SnowfogOutdoorsbushcraft]

Great video and comparison my friend. I also have the Hudson Bay kit with the crappy char cloth. Lol. I use denim as well, much better. I think the tin itself is why the price is high not the contents. But it's a great piece of kit anyway. 👍🏼

[@AdventureTimeOutdoors]

Snowfog Outdoors I love the look of it. The price difference of the tin and the tin with kit was wierd. I would not pay 25 for that kit. 40 dollars for a tin is pricey but it is a specialty item. Still love the tin though I was just a little dissapointed after watching reviewers rave about them. when I saw the contents of the kit it was a little dissapointing. Good to hear from ya Diane hope all is well.

[@jasonedwardledburynewzeala9897]

Canadian $51 usd for same hudson bay kit. Parthfinder 6 dollars cheaper. Nice tin though, the brass hudson bay.

[@MTwoodsrunner]

lotta useful info in this vid...thanks Mark...woods

[@jasonswiatkowski9127]

Is it worth the price? The answer is different for each person. If you have the right natural resources and knowledge, you can make your own kit for just a dollar or two. If you want something that is historically accurate and pre made, you might want to pay more and buy a kit. I have an ugly but functional kit that I put together for under $10. Those Hudson Bay tins work, are nearly foolproof, and are beautiful. Its your choice.

[@AdventureTimeOutdoors]

I agree. A lot of reviews I saw were talking about the kit being excellent and you get what you pay for. This is what I was trying to show. You can get a great steel or complete kit for way less than $65. In this case a $12 dollar kit worked just as good if not better than the $65 dollar one. The best steels I own are one I forged myself with all hand made tools and one I made out of an old axe file. If a person wants to pay a lot more for something that looks nice that's fine. I just dont want people go be fooled into thinking it is a better quality steel just because of the price!

[@rjwildlove]

Awesome! I really enjoy your videos. I am glad I found your channel!

[@AdventureTimeOutdoors]

rlove2bike thanks man

[@spudyaquilina3001]

Awesome thank you 😊

[@LANDSEAAIRCANADA]

Great video as always, thank you

[@AdventureTimeOutdoors]

LAND SEA AIR CANADA thanks for sticking around for so long lol

[@johnndavis7647]

I like the Hudson bay tobacco tin As far as fire kits go. I dont think the average native or white settler on the frontier would have had an expensive tin like that. The average person on the frontier would have had a flat tin box just big enough to hold a fire steel piece of flint and a candle stub. Maybe a few splinters of fat wood. John Davis jax fl

[@robertdunn8541]

Just ordered one 👍🏻

[@maritimespook]

May Grab One for pics/nostalgia but thank you for the REAL Review Mark !,,,,Atb !,,,,Spook

[@AdventureTimeOutdoors]

maritimespook thanks spook some folks talk like it is the best kit ever. I think it is just the best looking lol

[@maritimespook]

Adventure Time Outdoors I think you hit the nail on the head lol ...but it is damn pretty lol ...Cheerz !,,;Spook

[@martinarcher5280]

Amadou and ash? Please do

[@southpawbushcraft7522]

hmmm good point about how you can't throw the hudson bay one in the fire I didn't even think about that!

[@AdventureTimeOutdoors]

SouthPaw Bushcraft ya but you can always bury your cloth and build a fire over it.

[@Chungustav]

SouthPaw Bushcraft why couldn't you use it to char your material?

[@AdventureTimeOutdoors]

Silkworm the problem is the magnifying glass would be damaged. It is not removable from the lid. hope you don't mind me answering

[@southpawbushcraft7522]

It would ruin the magnifying lense...oh I see it was answered below. Also because I don't really want to burn up a beautiful brass tin that cost a lot of money.

[@southpawbushcraft7522]

exactly!

[@AdventureTimeOutdoors]

It sure is brother!

[@anthonygomez446]

so you're selling for self reliance ?

[@AdventureTimeOutdoors]

Anthony Gomez I don't sell for anybody. I just give my opinion. in this case a 15 dollar flint and steel kit works just as good as the $50 one. I just want people to know that just because you spend more doesn't mean you are getting a better piece of kit.

[@sgbradley]

I just added birch bark to mine, I think I got mine at the canteen shop. If I'm right I paid $29.00 for mine delivered to me when I was in Ottawa. Canadians Eh trying to keep our History alive but at a price to pay for it while everyone else can get it cheaper.

[@AdventureTimeOutdoors]

Stephen Bradley I checked many places buying a kit from the US with the exchange and shipping it was even more than 60 bucks. they sell the same kit at bushcraftcanada.com for 69.99 and they changed the steel for the exact one I compared this one to. I have seen the just the tins tins for 39 but I don't know how they see that steel and stone and char cloth being worth an extra 20! crazy!

[@sgbradley]

Adventure Time Outdoors I bought mine about 4 years ago, I'm just as surprised as you with those prices. We are definitely in the wrong business. As for the char cloth making, I used (shh) a terry cloth bathrobe that I screwed up. Makes a nice thick cloth for bushcraft hehehe.

[@bkreep]

**Note to video makers:** Don't chew gum, or anything, while shooting a video. It takes away from the content when the movements and lip-smacking over power the video.

[@oneer8435]

Make your own. They tend to work better. The reason these companies make firestarter cheap is because your life doesn't depend on it no more. The only reason a steal wouldn't work good is because it wouldn't be hardened enough. Easy fix.

[@TimWatsonOutdoors]

Oof, that's a lot for that tin. Maybe as a collectible look.

[@jasonedwardledburynewzeala9897]

Dont throw those horse hoof spores away. You can char that.

[@BrosephRussell]

Cool demo brother that tin is cool but price no thanks brother

[@gunnerhusnian4375]

sweeeeet bro

[@752brickie]

Wow the Hudson Bay is pretty pricey !!!

[@jonc2914]

Flint and steel should be dirt cheap I don’t understand why they are so expensive....

[@AdventureTimeOutdoors]

I agree! The one I forged myself works better than both of these. Most of these kits are a total rip off.

[@m005kennedy]

Really small flint!

[@NathansFerroceriumrods1]

That's an expensive tin.