Is it Intrusive Thoughts or Is It Excitement?

[@anweshabardhan1579]

Why isn't anyone else as detailed as you are? Somehow you manage to tell the excat things I feel that no1 else talks about like you do. They touch on the topics but not in the statements you make. You are so helpful. I have severe... like really severe ocd. It's literally 24×7, anything I do, as simple as taking a bath or eating or drinking or sitting can trigger my sexual intrusive thoughts. It's just about everything. Your vds help.

[@maddierose8123]

she’s so good at explaining it. i remember in one of her videos it gave me a countless amount of reassurance because her experience was the exact same as mine!

[@anweshabardhan1579]

@@maddierose8123 ya i know people keep telling that reassurance is bad in ocd but i feel if you don't know what's what or what ocd can cause then how are you supposed to get better. It's like saying you shouldn't know that fever is a symptom of cold but you are expected to not worry about it, how are you even supposed to know what medicine to take if you don't even knw that fever is a symptom at all. Knowing the whole scenario helps, in my opinion.

[@maddierose8123]

@@anweshabardhan1579 i think if you look for reassurance and find something you don’t wanna see that could be false it isn’t good, but what’s wrong with knowing what’s going on i agree!! i’m only 15 struggling with this

[@anweshabardhan1579]

@@maddierose8123 with time you get to know what information to take in n which ones to reject. I hope we all find ourselves in a better place soon.

[@juepaul691]

Hey, are you bengali? I also! And what kind of ocd you have?

[@lauraska95]

The groinal is by far the most disturbing OCD symptom 😔 at least for me. It feels like your body's betraying you

[@Nicolas14215]

Sometimes I thing that I enjoy it and I don't know how to know the diference with real arousal

[@anuvabchakrabarti4089]

@@Nicolas14215 don't try to figure it out mate....i experience them too but I have noticed that if I don't give any attention to it, it doesn't flare up but the next instance I give it an attention, the whole cycle gets repeated...I know its very tempting to look for evidences to get relief but it's just a momentary respite from the apparent anxiety not a permanent solution to your problem....so try not to look for evidences....hope it helps..

[@NadimHaidarihaidari]

@@anuvabchakrabarti4089Thanks bro i try to do it but it comes back my live so bad😢

[@Shivalik_7778]

​@@Nicolas14215do you recovered?

[@wengadeeaider7362]

@@anuvabchakrabarti4089have you recovered

[@wolvesgirl1565]

It really does suck, I can't stand the thoughts and the way my body reacts to it. It makes me feel me awful, and gross. I'm seeing a therapist next month, hopefully it will help. Thank you for making this video.

[@Dub_97]

How has therapy been ?

[@wolvesgirl1565]

@@Dub_97 could have been better

[@Dub_97]

@@wolvesgirl1565 how long were you in therapy for this was 2 years ago .. how have you been feeling ? Still dealing with the thoughts ?

[@wolvesgirl1565]

@@Dub_97 been in therapy for 2 years not helpful

[@Dub_97]

@@wolvesgirl1565 why wasn’t it helpful ?

[@zeapear]

This video is exactly what I needed right now. I’ve been going through an OCD relapse recently, and this video is touching on a lot of the thoughts and fears that I’ve been grappling with. Thank you Chrissie for all of the work you do, you have made such a massive difference for those of us suffering with Pure O (though I hate the term Pure O because it isn’t quite accurate haha).

[@zeapear]

The talk of protective mechanisms is especially true. During the pandemic I’ve actually really appreciated wearing a mask, because it feels like an extra protective layer preventing me from “snapping” and kissing someone, or blurting out something inappropriate. Going back to not needing to wear a mask will be some good ERP for me, beucause more often than not I just wish I could keep it on.

[@anthonystitt3052]

You are a godsend to so many. Thank you for addressing these embarrassing themes that terrify so many of us.

[@Persei1]

I went through this the other day. I felt anxious but confused it with excitement. Even after years of OCD, I still fall into this trap from time to time. Chrissie, thank you for shedding light on this topic!

[@Dusky-Bunn1e]

I also fall for this, i’m falling for it right now.

[@jahkarl7376]

Intrusive feelings/emotions are horrible coming out of nowhere and shutting you in.

[@theredbeard6333]

Hi, Chrissie, I have the same problems when I ruminate on my thoughts but what I noticed that It’s really easy to mistake arousal with anxiety or excitement, but when ocd creates physical arousal it can feel pleasurable, this is how we are designed to feel pleasure from „physical arousal” but this doesn’t mean we want it, it’s called arousal nonconcordance. Another thing that I noticed people with OCD have wrong interpretation of body changes as emotional responses. It’s like they are false feelings in our mind.

[@theredbeard6333]

@@ajnaajnica3376 yes, I had this happen to me as well. The more You are trying not to be aroused then your body gets aroused this is how ocd works. Sometimes sexual intrusive thoughts may cause arousal just because they are sexual, primitive part of the brain don’t care who or what is it. They see it as „sex” and they turn on the physical arousal

[@ajnaajnica3376]

@@theredbeard6333 thank you so much ❤️

[@theredbeard6333]

@@ajnaajnica3376 I can send You some good links with medical Articles about it

[@ajnaajnica3376]

@@theredbeard6333 plese send me

[@theredbeard6333]

@@ajnaajnica3376 You can give me Your e-mail or a user name on some ocd forum if you have one

[@T_glock666]

Hey Chrissie. I’ve been struggling with OCD for almost as long as I can remember and didn’t catch on to it being OCD until I was 13. At that time, it was physical rituals that I was convinced god was telling me to do. I was raised very religious and mistook my OCD as orders from god until I was about 14/15 and left Christianity. For a brief period, I didn’t feel that I struggled with OCD; then in 2017 my POCD and sexual orientation came back full force with the forming of a new relationship. This then triggered ROCD, etc. I decided to go see a therapist. I’ve been with her for years now and she has never told me I have OCD or gotten me formally evaluated. Until recently, I didn’t realize that my ruminating was a compulsion. I thought for years that since I quit physical rituals, I defeated OCD. Just recently I found out what POCD, HOCD and ROCD were. I’m now realizing that I’ve been ruminating and confessing as compulsions without realizing it was OCD. I’m just frustrated with my therapist for never mentioning OCD. I feel like maybe I should get a new therapist?

[@T_glock666]

And my ruminating has been debilitating, leading me to skip class, stay inside, sleep in, etc. because the guilt and shame have been so bad. My ROCD has led me to confess stuff to my girlfriend that has hurt our relationship in the past. My POCD has led me to ruminate and confess to my brother who gives me reassurance.

[@T_glock666]

I need to mention, my first memory of OCD and the need to confess, I was 7 or 8 and I saw nudity on a TV show and felt immediately like I needed to tell my mom. She became the person I confessed to for years and it was almost every night for about 2 years and then on and off for years after.

[@clumsygirl__]

For me honestly, I am fighting these feelings for a long time already but I have also learned a lot... But I think the most important thing in all this c*ap is to BELIEVE IN YOURSELF. You are not what you are afraid of. That's why you are afraid of... Take a look around... If you look better, you'll see there are other people who are carrying the same shadows you are afraid of. It's not you that was projecting this sh*t out. It was the world that was projecting that onto you. It's okay to look around and actually understand: HEY, I'm not the only person who is a monster here. No matter how other people look normal, trust me they are not that innocent. Now. When this arousal shows up, try bringing it to some calm state where you can actually remember some good memories from your childhood or some place you felt safe and sound. I realised that in this process of healing uncontrolled chaos, you have to find inner values that are not forced to be good. Instead they naturally were good. So sometime when you get excited, maybe try think about how you felt like that as a child. Because it is not something that is based on sexuality in the first place. The feeling of happiness can easily be misplaced for the feeling of arousal. Both are coming from the same root (sacral) but it doesn't necessarily means it is sexual in the first place. But bringing two minuses or two pluses like fear of sexual arousal are already giving the worst income - catastrophe. The truth is you are energy and it cannot be stopped. Energy is coming from everywhere. Give yourself time. It won't be easy to always relax and try to understand without forcing... Sometime you will also have to force it and when you do, give yourself the best to get actually angry. Cuz you deserve to spit that shit out. It is not easy to bear this disgusting burden and not being able to tell anyone cuz even you on your own cannot figure it out. Establish yourself and one more time, BELIEVE IN YOURSELF. You are better than what you live, see and feel.

[@anweshabardhan1579]

I cant thank you enough for telling me that I'm not what I feel I'm. No1 on the internet tells this that your sexual intrusive thoughts can zone in on 1 particular person and the butterfly thing and feeling excited when I really don't want to. I get sooo panicky. I even have trouble writing or seeing the beginning letter of that person's name. I'm getting married in 3 days and have been in a relationship with this perfect person for 16years now... and ROCD had to it me.. it just had to.

[@Dusky-Bunn1e]

I get that too, i suffer with TOCD and it gave me that butterfly/feeling excited feeling when i really didn’t want to and ended up crying after because i was so scared.

[@noahstump24]

@@Dusky-Bunn1e remember u can confuse it with anxiety i have the same

[@maddierose8123]

anyone else while struggling with this lost some interest in the opposite sex? is this normal…? i want it back:(

[@pillowbearroblox5485]

i am too

[@quorauser-b1t]

yeah bro its normal, in starting i totally lost my libido and attraction for girls but as i educate myself of hocd and had some patience it will back some tips during this don't force yourself to find attraction by seeing every girl on street and quit porn asap , it will ruin your life more

[@darkyboode3239]

I don’t feel anxiety anymore but I feel calm now even though I shouldn’t be, however the physical compulsions are still there.

[@dexageddon]

Oh my god thank you so much I thought I was the only one holy shit thank you you’re going to get through this I believe you can

[@callumhaigh8233]

Hi Christie. I’ve been watching this video series on KZbin called Mind that seeks truth and it says a thought whether it’s intrusive or not can’t change anything in you. It can’t change you into something else. I’ve been really struggling lately

[@cillian6460]

The thing that is really disturbing me recently is because I’ve masturbated to these thoughts in the past and didn’t feel shame,guilt or fear and now I am feeling all this because my mind is telling me that i wanted those thoughts

[@fatboy_notsoslim6582]

Can it be mental aswell? like I indetify a trigger/thought, for that moment mentally it seems If I want it, its almost appealing or 'hot' in that split second then after I feel gross/ashamed/confused. With other exposures I've gone towards the thought like yeah maybe and my ocd paniced and went wait what... and I then realised I didn't want it but, it seems to happen now when masturbating so like anything/thought feels good however gross as I'm pleasuring myself as it pops up as a thought or image and I go to checking/testing after. Its very frustrating. Any advice/comment?

[@Nicolas14215]

I'm not sure man, I thought I relate to you

[@srjgamer5321]

Its ocd , ocd is tricky and it can trigger a self talk, ocd is smart it keeps trying to create a trap, ocd is a complex disorder it has many symptoms including intrusive thoughts , physical urges , groinal response, guilt and shame, self talk and many more, when u have ocd u cant differentiate u r thoughts and feelings with ocd symptoms, dont forget to seek medical help

[@NathanSkiles]

That exact thing happens to me

[@quorauser-b1t]

​@@srjgamer5321can u explain what a "self talk" be like?

[@cleverhandle420]

Ocd is bonkers man!! U can’t trust anything during a cycle!!! I just focus on my behavior until I break out of it. Obviously I’m not perfect but I learned enough in therapy to remember the only thing that matters when it feels like ur brain is is betraying you is your behavior and ur brain will follow eventually.

[@alisherlock6556]

are you from Libya

[@ad0re_xo]

Its annoying because you know its wrong but your brain insists that how you feel

[@antoniopaloumusic3914]

Chrissie thank you for this channel. Its so complete. It has helped a lot!!

[@GarryLarryBarry]

The confusion between anxiety and excitement for me, seemed to crop up as a backdoor spike in recovery, was so used to having stronger physical systems of anxiety before. Then after i'd trained to reduce the anxiety response, it was confusing, made me seak the anxiety again.

[@TMSBLU3]

All throughout my life...as early as 5 and up...I believe I have what can be classified as a nervous stomach. Whenever I am about to go on a trip...my stomach would be so nervous that I would lose my appetite, have weird feelings in my stomach...and sometimes pain! Even today...especially when I am going through an episode/season/time of anxiety...my stomach goes crazy! Sometimes I can't eat as much...and everything triggers my stomach...everything! When the alarm or phone rings...my stomach sends a jolt of something through my abdomen...which makes me feel even worse....I have been a victim of this type of stomach pain for a long time. I even remember when i used to date...my stomach would be so nervous that i couldn't eat and I would feel pain...even lose a ton of weight...crazy!

[@simaysevincli7730]

Can ocd create more intense arousal than actual arousal?

[@Nicolas14215]

Apparently yes, that's what she said on the video

[@aqebrax]

Aaa benimle ayni cehennemi yasayan bir türk

[@dexageddon]

It’s what I deal with every day

[@Shivalik_7778]

You all recovered?

[@dexageddon]

I’ve been taking natural supplements because my parents are against prescribed medication I take gaba and some other with a long name I don’t remember but it has stopped some of the anxiety and of course it still comes through but it also has stopped me from going on multiple websites and now I only look at one source and am not falling down a rabbit hole. The feelings and sensations are still there and that’s what I was trying to get rid of I don’t know what’s going on but now that my anxiety has decreased it feels like my ocd or this other half is having full blown conversations with me and is making it so much harder to not look up a video or ask someone about what they think of me

[@jessie333x]

magnesium glycinate is good too

[@jessie333x]

so do people without ocd not hyper focus on arousal? can they control arousal? i think this is me just asking for reassurance lol

[@bmsc1233]

5:10 what if it is actually erected? Like hard but still scary

[@Nicolas14215]

Sometimes I can feel the differences between the groinal and my real arousal, but sometimes I couldn't and I feel like I'm just a repressed gay dude and I don't know what to do (Often times my groinal response is a tingle on the tip of my dick and also i feel something on my mouth, but there where other times, at least 4, where i felt like I was actually enjoying the thing on my mouth and on my dick) anyone can relate?

[@Secretlyintelligent]

I can relate 100% Its hard to tell the difference sometimes

[@Nicolas14215]

@@Secretlyintelligent Thanks man, I was felling kind of alone on this one.

[@Secretlyintelligent]

@@Nicolas14215 are you on some kind of medication or taking therapy?

[@Nicolas14215]

@@Secretlyintelligent I'm going to terapy but I still without making much progress, I guess it's because I still obses with getting anwsers.

[@thenordianmapper]

​@@Nicolas14215i swear, you are just like me. Btw, are you still struggling with this?

[@andrewreynolds722]

I think it may because we sensitive people or l am anyway. Love ❤ all.

[@dexageddon]

That’s what I was thinking last night but am now just in a total rut and need to get this all out of my head

[@Kingmationproductionz]

Is there anyone that have IG that I can talk to?

[@Nicolas14215]

Yeah, me

[@NathanSkiles]

​@nicolas19676 I need to talk to some one could I hAve ur ig

[@squamish4244]

You are beautiful :)