IS IT OVER FOR NATALIA ROAMERS?

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Elgin

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@virus2339
@virus2339 2 жыл бұрын
It's definitely harder to do roaming Natalia. Her ult is way too long if we didn't kill any jungle creeps. And jungle Natalia is kinda hard to play in certain situations. You have to run away to the bush or kill some creeps while the full-on war is still ongoing, especially when it's a war inside the base tower whether it's yours or the enemies.
@fixxxel4712
@fixxxel4712 2 жыл бұрын
I agree even in late game the ult takes way too log to reset, risky move to use her ult in team fught & escaping
@doggywithatigryplushie3457
@doggywithatigryplushie3457 2 жыл бұрын
I did the roam Natalia it wasn't hard I understand of its situation so once I was at the above level I am about to kill the creeps to restock the ultimate and join the gank if needed
@ninecraft5526
@ninecraft5526 2 жыл бұрын
@@doggywithatigryplushie3457 good play
@gaminbros316
@gaminbros316 2 жыл бұрын
Think about it though as roam Natalia it's easier to steal creeps now
@davidking360
@davidking360 2 жыл бұрын
@@gaminbros316 exactly
@bitbybot3
@bitbybot3 2 жыл бұрын
As someone who plays Marksmans alot , I think this change might indirectly raise the popularity of MM's like Lesley ( Her ult can locate Natalia even while invisible) , items like wind of nature and force people to have more map awareness. But it's definitely gonna be harder playing generally squishy roles like mage and MM's 😖
@marielcarey4288
@marielcarey4288 2 жыл бұрын
Yep, Lesley is a direct counter to Natalia, Natalia got nerfed (damage, cooldown) and Lelsey is getting revamp + buff (faster s2, overall damage buff). Lesley enjoyers will be having it good.
@kemii_io706
@kemii_io706 2 жыл бұрын
and the fact that they are actually buffing Lesley
@juanitoarmandomesa9485
@juanitoarmandomesa9485 2 жыл бұрын
Lmao nah, her dmg was nerfed in general, gonna be mm meta next season with the new talents system, off tank marksmans like Brody, granger or bea gonna be more difficult to kill, not lesley lmao, yea she has that ult, but it's easy to scare her to use it lol
@doses9177
@doses9177 2 жыл бұрын
@@juanitoarmandomesa9485 Naaah it's the mage meta that's rising not mm
@ninecraft5526
@ninecraft5526 2 жыл бұрын
@@doses9177 I don't know what to say about you
@IsoyaYasuji
@IsoyaYasuji 2 жыл бұрын
Being roamer as the new natalia is alot harder now since u have to atleast steal a few creeps from the jungler to lower ult cds, and that kinda messed up abit of how she used to work. So ig nata jungler is the new norm xD Speaking about junglers, can u try martis as the jungler? Bcz since most junglers are strong early game snowballers, he’s the perfect candidate once he gets ult, is always active in fights and cleans them up like a Physical Karina (you can watch my newest martis montage for example xD). Just hoping u could try him as the jungler soon to show more exposure to martis :3 as for emblem, i suggest using Assassin emblem with killing spree talent so he can always sustain from the heal and gets extra mov spd for every kill plus perfectly stacks with his ult. Build can be by ur preference :3
@marctony8483
@marctony8483 2 жыл бұрын
You've really been requesting many ytbers to try martis,you must rlly like him eheheh
@IsoyaYasuji
@IsoyaYasuji 2 жыл бұрын
@@marctony8483 not only that, but also wanna increase his popularity xd
@eugeniodias1536
@eugeniodias1536 2 жыл бұрын
Why steal creeps from the jungle if you can steal from the enemy jungle? This is what I do:) By the way, Ruby main here☺️
@jeremypee4128
@jeremypee4128 2 жыл бұрын
tip: use natalia's ulti/passive to push turrets if the enemy is distracted on the other side of the map and the enemies are ahead in farm. The enhanced basic attack also triggers on turrets.
@ninecraft5526
@ninecraft5526 2 жыл бұрын
Good tip
@jeremypee4128
@jeremypee4128 2 жыл бұрын
her skill 2 can increase her attack speed also. Good for turrets.
@Gian872
@Gian872 2 жыл бұрын
I think the new meta for this natalia: 2 jungler (natalia invading) roaming item mage. then usual xp laner and gold laner. Natalia will still play the roaming playstyle while invading and stealing objectives.
@Chrono_topher
@Chrono_topher 2 жыл бұрын
This reminds me of the Funnel Strategy for some reason lol
@dr0wn8888
@dr0wn8888 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah good luck for your team not be angry
@rusheru7787
@rusheru7787 2 жыл бұрын
@@dr0wn8888 We tried this strat. 100% requires a squad to work.
@xizumix
@xizumix 2 жыл бұрын
@@rusheru7787 yeah, for more cooperation
@slashlightvine1139
@slashlightvine1139 2 жыл бұрын
@@dr0wn8888 ye the team be like. "I pick Leyla and me need tank in 1v1, roam need go only with mm, not with jungler." Ahaha
@irwanimationtad
@irwanimationtad 2 жыл бұрын
i still think she's better as a roam she can steal but can't compete retri battle with other heroes. because once she's visible there's probably 3 hero chasing her right away. i know, because i used to main her
@luckytheunlucky1157
@luckytheunlucky1157 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah but the ult takes too long.
@NanthoiMangang
@NanthoiMangang 2 жыл бұрын
I agree....she can still erase mm/mage easily with roam+execute..making the team's life easier
@luquiten
@luquiten 2 жыл бұрын
1:36 i think its better off killing the moskov instead since hes the better target and already alone in the bush, leomord might not have time to react if you kill moskov fast, besides hes low hp for nat. fast and good target picking is very important for natalia
@RapBopzShorts
@RapBopzShorts 2 жыл бұрын
🤓
@luquiten
@luquiten 2 жыл бұрын
@@RapBopzShorts sorry i have game sense and had time to write an essay, and youre prob mythic 5
@RapBopzShorts
@RapBopzShorts 2 жыл бұрын
@@luquiten 🤡
@bladimierrivero8704
@bladimierrivero8704 2 жыл бұрын
Nice edit.. Do you edit it yourself? or do you have an editor?
@lingzhilong6259
@lingzhilong6259 2 жыл бұрын
10:33 that's what happen you don't hear what an strategies said and that will happen I've done that many to tell my to do this and that but they have free will and hard headed So i give up and just play it, when playing an tank it's annoying if you ult got all but team is not there
@SPHINXY
@SPHINXY 2 жыл бұрын
I m Natalia main user bro, roaming still kinda good late game but jungling is my new role now hehe 😊❤️
@Domingkun
@Domingkun 2 жыл бұрын
It's hard to use her now 😭😭😭 I'm more on a roamer than being a core. It's a bit pressure since they always rely and put the blame on you if the team losses rather than a roamer where your presence doesn't matter.
@lalalunaaaaa692y
@lalalunaaaaa692y 2 жыл бұрын
Yes she's much harder and I really don't like the new natalia. You need to wait for stack 2 of her ult to get absolute solo kill in early to mid unlike before. Plus her ult take so long to stack. I don't really feel her dmg even with direhit so maybe natalia is now suited as jungle which is disappointing but at the same time not. I'm not a jungler player and I loved using natalia( bc she's the assassin that is not often use as jungler) but now's the time I stop playing her.
@boslog
@boslog 2 жыл бұрын
@@lalalunaaaaa692y just kill the beetle jungle creep that resurrects for fast 2 stack then after killing someone visit the enemy's side beetle.
@cryohypostasis
@cryohypostasis 2 жыл бұрын
They could've also made her ultimate get the 50% cooldown when she gets a kill. It could help her a bit since I play her as a sidelaner and only as a jungler if I'm being forced to
@sheenosan
@sheenosan 2 жыл бұрын
exactly what i was thinking while watching the video
@cimtheaverage
@cimtheaverage 2 жыл бұрын
I honestly think roaming fits her assassin's role better and i think roam natalia is unique unlike other assassins that don't perform well roaming. The update made her a "just like" any other assassin. It's boring. Once again they ruined her.
@kidphobic7138
@kidphobic7138 2 жыл бұрын
ok
@theprofessor864
@theprofessor864 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah sure
@Aymam
@Aymam 2 жыл бұрын
🤓
@jhndoa5590
@jhndoa5590 2 жыл бұрын
🤓
@dark2520
@dark2520 2 жыл бұрын
She’s trash now. Got to USA top and now I can’t do shit with her.
@rayhanmiah231
@rayhanmiah231 2 жыл бұрын
5:45 a stronger combo (before patch) is Passive-Basic-1-Ulti-Basic-1
@ninkyminjaj8044
@ninkyminjaj8044 2 жыл бұрын
8:43 “with the lord on our side” amen! 🤣💀
@somedude4677
@somedude4677 2 жыл бұрын
This is kinda a bad change for her since the first reason why they changed her is to 'help her take out multiple enemies better' but now it's changed to jungling easier.
@ninecraft5526
@ninecraft5526 2 жыл бұрын
Good precise idea and saying
@zora4187
@zora4187 2 жыл бұрын
Imagine she still gets used as roam so she can help junglers farm faster😭😭😭😭
@zeithmarc45
@zeithmarc45 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, she is changed and kind of different now with her old gameplay, but little was changed with my gameplay with her, she is still awesome as a roamer, it is just that her ult is kind of restricted now because of long cooldown especially on early game, but I can counter on late game now since I can just kill small jungle creeps from junglers since they don't really put their attention on them that much, and her cooldown is shorter since there is a bigg cooldown cut on her ult
@surge5753
@surge5753 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve been playing jungler Natalia since the update to her, she’s really good still if you know how to play her and use her últ properly, I’ve gone matches with 25 kills and 3 deaths the problem is that in a team fight she’s v v ineffective which is bad since you want your jungler to still be able to do something in team fights, you have to be v v sneaky and a bit lucky in team fights to catch a quick kill and run away. I’ve also noticed that her últ now let’s you be invisible even if you get hit right when you use it which is big as you’re not wasting your últ like it used to be
@domu6589
@domu6589 2 жыл бұрын
Nope, Natalia is still a good roamer
@dreamcatcher1074
@dreamcatcher1074 2 жыл бұрын
A roam for sure, she's better to be a solo role than being in a team fight
@grimreapersarada5540
@grimreapersarada5540 2 жыл бұрын
0:41 kalmot build i can't stop laughing at that part and also I quit using execute on natalia,instead im using inspire to fast kill squishy heroes with the roam dire-hit when playing her in solo rank even in classic mode
@YusukeEugeneUrameshi
@YusukeEugeneUrameshi 2 жыл бұрын
4:25 how to check popularity?
@reddemafeliz3004
@reddemafeliz3004 2 жыл бұрын
Here's a hard Natalia combo to those who want enemies to disappear instantly: Passive - Basic Attack - First Skill - Ulti - Basic Attack - first skill - (Either use second or ulti to finish them of "or" just use second for basic attacks then use ulti to run away) I recommend for those who wanna use this combo at practice mode cuz it kinda needs a bit of practicing :> Stay safe y'all!
@klassyplays4324
@klassyplays4324 2 жыл бұрын
Aamon being the new roam Natalia: “Savage!” “Wiped out”
@multatuli1
@multatuli1 2 жыл бұрын
I just saw this like 2 hour ago, I destroy amon with my Hilda 😂
@klassyplays4324
@klassyplays4324 2 жыл бұрын
@@multatuli1 either that aamon was bad or your reallly good with hilda, bc hilda is a bad pick for aamon because of his camouflage skill… tho I guess hilda users can still get around with this
@multatuli1
@multatuli1 2 жыл бұрын
@@klassyplays4324 my Hilda roamer never had any problems against Natalia and aamon, Hilda skill 2 could still chase while they're running+hiding. But the most scenario that happened was I always on the bush first and ambushing them.
@klassyplays4324
@klassyplays4324 2 жыл бұрын
@@multatuli1 yea that’s one of their weaknesses, using the bushes and also getting the shield from hilda. Gotta say your pretty good 😀
@Zafar-hussain16
@Zafar-hussain16 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome bro I love it full sapport from Sir Roger Channel 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
@reddemafeliz3004
@reddemafeliz3004 2 жыл бұрын
7:19 I WAS SOOOO CONFUSED HOW DID HE 1 HIT THE LORD. BUT IT WAS ACTUALLY THE POWER OF EDITING 😭😭
@RUKA_BABYMONST7R
@RUKA_BABYMONST7R 9 ай бұрын
😂
@serenajulius5308
@serenajulius5308 2 жыл бұрын
Can they buff or help Selena seems like her main role now is roam or only place she fits in the meta is support bec the jungle system has change so much Selena can't jungle as well as she did before and completely fell out and barely keeping up with the meta if she's not a roamer she doesn't have good clear not even good dmg without her marks and her traps aren't even permanent she just needs a buff to become a jungler or at least a decent exp laner
@honorstealer
@honorstealer 2 жыл бұрын
I second that
@sprinter5901
@sprinter5901 2 жыл бұрын
The quality of the video is excellent.
@HalfBloodPrince69420
@HalfBloodPrince69420 2 жыл бұрын
0:42 I like the name of the build 😂😂
@chitaranjan8067
@chitaranjan8067 2 жыл бұрын
I am still playing nata as roam after new adjustment still she is beast 👀
@whatamistudio2557
@whatamistudio2557 2 жыл бұрын
After her adjustment I'm using natalia roam with inspire
@chitaranjan8067
@chitaranjan8067 2 жыл бұрын
@@whatamistudio2557 xD nice but I still playing with execute and it's still good :)
@imposter4222
@imposter4222 2 жыл бұрын
@@chitaranjan8067 but her early damage is too low now u need to build at leat 3 items to instant kill mm. And mages by that time mm also gets farm
@dark2520
@dark2520 2 жыл бұрын
She’s so much weaker now. How is she a “beast”
@whatamistudio2557
@whatamistudio2557 2 жыл бұрын
@@dark2520 mid game natalia:am I a joke to you
@evelynnstop1fanreal642
@evelynnstop1fanreal642 2 жыл бұрын
The hardest combo for her is Paesive Basic 1st Ult Basic 1st ult basic Also I do guardian helmet on her to not waste time by recalling to base I get it after Blade of heptaseas
@rikoalfiez6291
@rikoalfiez6291 2 жыл бұрын
2:33 imagine being leomord lmao
@badmashbm
@badmashbm 2 жыл бұрын
they practically made her useless..not all heroes are suited for jungler role..shes a pure assassin..not a wall hugger like ling....any jungler can be found on the map by looking at the map and listening to the sounds..they can easily kill her everytime...jungler natalia is only viable in legend and below...mythic and above if u get a good enemy..she wont be able to do anything..not even farm...roamer natalia was still some what good..this one is useless...guess cant rank up anymore with her
@knzee1689
@knzee1689 2 жыл бұрын
when your a natalia user. even being a roamer with this new update its still good, its just need an adjustment to the player who gonna use it. its just accepting whats the changes on its abilities
@Sgjcjhsst
@Sgjcjhsst 2 жыл бұрын
I usually use the passive-Basicattack-1-ult-basic-1 And i always aim the 1st to the enemies back bc natalia have another passive that if u attck enemy in their back the basic att dmg gets higher
@shinhikaru
@shinhikaru 2 жыл бұрын
What makes her amazing is her rotation and early game power. Jungle Natalia basically kills her main purpose because she already deals good damage plus CC right from the start. Which is why Roamer Natalia or Midlane Natalia works very well because she can gank easily. Moonton made Natalia bad again.
@GengUpinIpin
@GengUpinIpin 2 жыл бұрын
I just take the beetle+mini beetle whenever my jungler is on the opposite side of where i am After that, back to roaming
@d_anzen4517
@d_anzen4517 2 жыл бұрын
This game role is very flexible, although they make that change, I think she can still be a roamer I believe most people use her as roamer is for the ability to poke the enemy while being agile and not mainly because of her damage so personally this change are not really matter I mean I play her as roamer but at the late game she is more like a pusher while truly back to be an assassin Now with the ability to decrease cooldown after killing jungle creeps she is the ultimate assassin roamer anyone can ever ask 😅
@thesmiles4750
@thesmiles4750 2 жыл бұрын
I agree on the last part 10:53 when natalia is in the enemy base it can be useless since its about the passive and you have to run back to the bush again outside when the passive is out and knowing your role as a natalia is core and jungler you also play a big role. So i hope they can do something about it since those are critical moments
@youtubewatcher6124
@youtubewatcher6124 2 жыл бұрын
I hate how Moontoon don't want unorthodox Roamers like Natalia, Popol and Jawhead They keep nerfing them until they are not viable as roamers They were not too OP and no one bat an eye when they were roamers But no, Moontoon just wants us to follow what their Role Labels are Smh
@honorstealer
@honorstealer 2 жыл бұрын
Yet they made adjustments to help tanks to jungle 😂😂😂
@BG_Is_Trash911
@BG_Is_Trash911 2 жыл бұрын
2:33 best part for me
@Random_Person11
@Random_Person11 2 жыл бұрын
Tbh I don't like to play natalia on jungle since mainly she has high damage on early game (same concept as saber or other burst assassin) its better to win at early game since natalia is weak on late game So its not necessary to waste time in jungle
@Allen_Walker21
@Allen_Walker21 2 жыл бұрын
I miss the Roam Natalia
@F3Y_030
@F3Y_030 2 жыл бұрын
It's been a year, that your tower and etc are darker than the original colors. I suggest you get the back-up files from @iSnip, to fix it.
@bigbrainhampter8672
@bigbrainhampter8672 2 жыл бұрын
7:17 wow that transition
@tapmypfpv
@tapmypfpv 2 жыл бұрын
Oh god I'm now regretting my decision of buying her starlight, because the main reason I did it is because of me using her as more of a roamer rather than a jungler but after the update it's quite hard to do those anymore (it only doubles because of the fact she also relies too much on her passive unlike other assassins.)which I literally hates because I think it would have been better if I just waited for a more better option.
@mcley3563
@mcley3563 2 жыл бұрын
The New Emblem system is actually op for natalia, so i kinda understand why they don't want her ultimate to have a reduce cooldown when killing enemy hero
@koraymaru2926
@koraymaru2926 2 жыл бұрын
Natalia early-mid game almost doesn't exist
@kennan7527
@kennan7527 2 жыл бұрын
i dont think the video answers the caption. Doing good on Nat jungler os not enough to say that Nat roamer wont be advisable anymore.. It will, though if you had still use her as roamer despite the changes
@sokcheangprum3551
@sokcheangprum3551 2 жыл бұрын
May I know how to display items below the map ?
@hatepickles1753
@hatepickles1753 2 жыл бұрын
Seems like u forgot Natalia is auto locked to be a jungler in her revamp, her ult has 60 sec each charge which means picking her as a sidelaner is a troll pick
@jirehemanuel
@jirehemanuel 2 жыл бұрын
actually nata is great all around the match even in late cus you have smoke for anti basic attack and silence for skill caster just be smart and strike at the most perfect moment
@rest.relax.repeat.3109
@rest.relax.repeat.3109 2 жыл бұрын
I noticed some teams use Saber as roam and played like a roam Natalia. I wonder why can't we see more team compositions like this. If your jungle is a Tank, can we have a burst assassin as a roam. I want to see Karina, Harley, Lancelot, Gusion, Aamon and Helcurt as roamers. 😂😂😂
@slashlightvine1139
@slashlightvine1139 2 жыл бұрын
Helcurt need farm for [demon hunter sword] (idk correct item name, sorry for mistake) As fast as he can!
@MayuMayu6911
@MayuMayu6911 2 жыл бұрын
@@slashlightvine1139 some pro player used him as mid I think
@KianClanceyFR
@KianClanceyFR 2 жыл бұрын
ye I play Saber as Roam or Side laner it's fun :]
@nightcoremarcus
@nightcoremarcus 2 жыл бұрын
mpl ph blacklist vs nxpe game 3, saber roam vs jungle natalia, i mean yeah, it's actually true, as long as you have tank junglers like akai
@user-jr6vk5uk8f
@user-jr6vk5uk8f 2 жыл бұрын
They are need gold bruh
@ninecraft5526
@ninecraft5526 2 жыл бұрын
11:56 slashy slashy (and look at the turret going down)
@generalknez3942
@generalknez3942 2 жыл бұрын
The funniest thing is that Natalia comes at me when im playing Terizla and the exp fed me cuz i guarded the minions denying him of the exp carts. Natalia tries something, i smash with 2nd skill a few times, heal thru bloodlust axe and then ULT for the 3rd killing blow of 2nd skill... I play dmg build with both axes and either Hunter Strike or BoD. Also play dominance ice and immortal with vengeance. Although its been weaker since 2nd skill dmg nerf and passive dmg red nerf, Terizla is still strong in lategame as he can ult the enemy dmg dealer before they can burst him down, resulting in a great teamfight advantage plus he can survive if the tank dives in time, resulting in certain 3rd hit of 2nd skill and massive heal from bloodlust axe. The build has 40% CD reduction and if there are 3 squishies you can go 30% CDR by taking BoD for extra 25% dmg for 3s, securing squishies.
@misoo7350
@misoo7350 2 жыл бұрын
That Natalia you are playing with is dumb, why would she go to exp lane, it's better if she roamed instead. (But maybe exp lane is playable it depends on the enemy) And if she knows how terizla works she won't attack you carelessly. If it's me, I won't target you unless you have a very very low health. Because I can silence you first and finish you. Then I'll priotize the squishy heroes. Lastly, Natalia shouldn't attack the fighter first in the teamfight 🗿.
@selocha4367
@selocha4367 2 жыл бұрын
Full damage terizla sounds so painful to hear. Sure you add 2 def items but man he only need 1 or 2 damage items and the rest defense
@WhoamI_2505
@WhoamI_2505 2 жыл бұрын
I think she should get cd reduction on killing an enemy too, so she could finish and escape simultaneously
@NbNgMOD
@NbNgMOD 2 жыл бұрын
It's soo annoying when they don't listen and don't let them outside their base to gank them then they get killed.... that was very specific but it's very common for me
@kurokenshin2507
@kurokenshin2507 2 жыл бұрын
Intellectual : isn't a jungler count as "roamer"?
@nerox118
@nerox118 2 жыл бұрын
Kinda yes and no, since Jungler spent most of their time roaming in jungle in early game
@josephtulod9799
@josephtulod9799 2 жыл бұрын
Hi. Ask ko lang how to remove the beta issue? Thank you!
@kiff3842
@kiff3842 2 жыл бұрын
Is it only me or when I'm playing natalia, I usually locked the hero first using the hero lock mode but when I'm attack the enemy suddenly natalia aim the minions or creeps. Anyone encounter this problem?
@MarvKage
@MarvKage 2 жыл бұрын
The edit at 7:19 was way too clean. I had to rewind and check the time to make sure that I wasn't seeing Natalia 2 shot lord x.x
@mystifiedzombie7428
@mystifiedzombie7428 2 жыл бұрын
i’m all for players making different experiment with their hero, i think the developers forcing this kind of adjustment is ehh.., may be natalia players wanted this in the first place i have no clue. i suppose it’s for the better ..?
@karlbyronbergorganiza6605
@karlbyronbergorganiza6605 2 жыл бұрын
If you play Natalia, make sure if you have full stack, on ultimate, and used it again, if you have second skill and push the base, and don't let those marksmen will target you, make sure you have tank on your side... That's how could works I was solo play using Natalia... pretty impossible to use, if you already on late game, you will be crushed or killed by those marksmen that they support the tank.
@rheivenjunoblianda6989
@rheivenjunoblianda6989 2 жыл бұрын
I hate how Moonton pushes heroes to be specific to one main role (in this case, a jungler) really makes it kind of dull imo. Anyways, the good thing for this change is the ultimate change. Yes the cd is too long but then again, the second part is no longer timed, giving you a broader tactical option.
@darthmon4541
@darthmon4541 2 жыл бұрын
natalia already had 2 charges but this new update made her ulti just 1 charge and you need to wait for the cooldown to make it 2 unlike before its instant 2 charge it only coolsdown when used but after using both it instantly goes back to 2 charge after cooldown.. since natalia was release all update from her are lowering her attack power I never saw any increase stat update.. better delete that character if its just getting all nerf update
@CodeyBluey
@CodeyBluey 2 жыл бұрын
7:17 damn wth did she one shot the lord or am I just seeing things
@Tlbsoftware
@Tlbsoftware 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome now my roaming invade gameplay is enhanced even better, I like stealing the enemy jungle creeps while waiting for openings, that way the enemy jungler has less farm
@jmsy5696
@jmsy5696 2 жыл бұрын
Kapag nasa base na yung clash, check check ka muna kung mag kaclash na tapos hanapin mo yung mm or mage pag pawala na yung passive ult ka kasi kaya mo na burst yun mga yun ng 2 hits + 1st skill palayo double dash dahil sa likod ka naman nila napupunta after ng enhance attack. Ingat lang sa aoe skills, assassin emblem na may movement speed para madali ka makailag. Overall mas trip ko padin ang nata roam, mas nakakatakot kalaban.
@johnjamili4431
@johnjamili4431 2 жыл бұрын
The finale song was silhouette
@ayushraj6749
@ayushraj6749 2 жыл бұрын
How u got mini build viewer under your map😢😢😢
@Amanrio7
@Amanrio7 2 жыл бұрын
Question: why don't people use marksman emblem on natalia. Workshop emblem give 15% extra damage from equipments where as assassin emblem(single target) give only 7% to single target.
@johnkennethtapon4874
@johnkennethtapon4874 2 жыл бұрын
Natalia jungle maybe efficient in some ways but for me making her roam dire hit is still better. That 16% max hp damage of dire hit can make high hp heroes to become squishy. Moreover, if you're a good natalia user, you can still survive even late game
@lichienloo4696
@lichienloo4696 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for nata combo,i always p-b-1-3-b-1-2(p=passive b=basic attack), that's why enemy can kill me before i kill them
@belimvasim143
@belimvasim143 2 жыл бұрын
This was definelty a overall buff for nat Look having high damage on skills which is good but it doesn't matter if you can't kill the enemys but now with this buff Natalie's overall burst is higher thx to the ultimate buff + now that you still have a another ULT to run from battle if things go wrong And TBH I think this just made roam natalia a li'l batter in late game 1 - in late gave with few equitpemnet you can easily kill creeps fast so ULT's cooldown is not a problems 2 - you can use execute in your arsenal cause it definelty better better then retri in team fights. 3- agree or not jungle natalia is not as good as other junglers like thamus specially at objectives thamus can easily sustain a lot at objectives fights but natalia can't (she is a pretty good objectives stealer tho) Conclusion : natalia jungler=roamer It doesn't matter what u do cause a good natalia player is always going to excel at it
@SoojinSeooo
@SoojinSeooo 2 жыл бұрын
They made her focus only on jungling, not ganking
@shylevilladores6712
@shylevilladores6712 2 жыл бұрын
eh i still use roamer natial besides, if i need my ult charged i just take the bug buff thing in the bottom lane :>
@aterovis3693
@aterovis3693 2 жыл бұрын
Why do they always have to "fix" heroes who are already fine? Most people play her as a roamer so why would you make her a jungler now? "I dont care that everyone plays her as a roamer, I WANT you to play as a jungler. Done!".
@Saika5140
@Saika5140 2 жыл бұрын
Because maybe Moonton notice that Natalia is not a Tank but Asassin
@aterovis3693
@aterovis3693 2 жыл бұрын
@@Saika5140 so every assassin has to be a jungler?
@ReiiRussWentMissing
@ReiiRussWentMissing 2 жыл бұрын
Is that Naruto-Silhouette at the end lmao
@Trio_s
@Trio_s 2 жыл бұрын
Wait does Elgin made a video about hanabi being revamp? I'm excited for hanabi's revamp
@pastir91
@pastir91 2 жыл бұрын
Can a Nata main (or at least, someone good with her) explain why it's not a thing to steal the other jungler's first buff? On paper, it should be pretty easy, hard but do-able if the other team's roamer is around... Go in a bush, wait from a diatance, retri, run... Or is it too high risk?
@nevermoresoulkeeper6893
@nevermoresoulkeeper6893 2 жыл бұрын
i main nata with 5k matches, and killing a HERO feels better, than killing a buff. I have 100% kill rate once i knew its time to strike, vs 50% chance of either stealing the buff or being killed by enemy jungler and his support.
@nevermoresoulkeeper6893
@nevermoresoulkeeper6893 2 жыл бұрын
heres the majority of my experience when going to enemys jubgle on early game: 1.The enemy jungler saw "!" on their head 2. theyll shout: "Request Backup!" 3. The two of them will spam skills at bush 4. My invi gone 4. Me regret going to that jubgle, i should have go visit gold lane instead and kill their mm. Wasted time on that jungle.
@hdhdhdae9949
@hdhdhdae9949 2 жыл бұрын
roam natalia was one of the most unique playstyle I ever tried. IMO they should've kept her like that but yeah moonton wants m0ney🤑
@sjisisksnzkz
@sjisisksnzkz 2 жыл бұрын
How? Kid
@Ilovetoticklepeoplestip
@Ilovetoticklepeoplestip 2 жыл бұрын
How money is connected with her change in playstyle 🤡
@user-iu3kz4hc5s
@user-iu3kz4hc5s 2 жыл бұрын
Nah your just scared kiddo and wtf that thing has to do with money someone paid moonton to change nathalia skills or you just saying that pathetic reason?
@jamespiedad5866
@jamespiedad5866 2 жыл бұрын
Grabe Naman kayo
@jamespiedad5866
@jamespiedad5866 2 жыл бұрын
Na alala ko tuloy yung mga toxic na emotes na ginawa ni moontoon tapos Bigla nilang ti Ang gal yung sound Kasi toxic daw 😂😂😂
@じろです
@じろです 2 жыл бұрын
My combo: Passive Basic atk 1st skill 2nd skill Ult Basic atk Ult Basic atk It can kill even the toughest fighters EVEN CHOU
@wmfbwmz
@wmfbwmz 2 жыл бұрын
I'm a Natalia main, I prefer her as a roamer rather than a jungler since she's a hit-and-run heroine. I'm not a jungler user and Ive always got some pressures everytime I use her as a jungler because of how useless(but not that useless) she is in a team fight and late game. She's also bad at killing lord, you see heroes like lance, ling and others could have solo kill lord and have higher chances to outplay but Natalia is just slow that you can barely defend yourself when enemies try to steal your lord. When your ultimate is in CD, it's a game over. Personally, I kinda upset when moonton forced her to become a jungler, I mean just because she's an assassin doesn't mean she supposed to be a jungler. Oh yea, not just her roamer role got destroyed but also her side laner(gold and exp) because of her ridiculous new ultimate. So, What's next moonton? Matildha jungler? Lol.
@insanityfromyt2169
@insanityfromyt2169 2 жыл бұрын
I m a natalia user and i use -passive ,basic attack ,1st ,ult ,1st and ult if target not ded . Squisy don’t ve time to react to this combo :)
@zer0gaming1991
@zer0gaming1991 2 жыл бұрын
Anyone know the nerf now in Natalia's stealth jeez...
@meow9935
@meow9935 2 жыл бұрын
It's better if you recieve charges by killing an enemy hero instead of a creep.It'll be a problem for her if the enemies commit mass extinction in the jungle and leave none for her to kill.
@IDarkFireYT
@IDarkFireYT 2 жыл бұрын
If Natalia is roam they just bully squishy jungler or sidelaner if it's jungler Natalia there's disadvantage when clashing enemy base and Natalia is squishy against not squishy heroes it just depends what heroes their up against
@DrotZawk
@DrotZawk 2 жыл бұрын
Elgin sure is a really good ml player. But as a natalia main, I can see many things Elgin could've done better in this match. (NOT RELATED TO MY FIRST STATEMENT) There are many things to take into consideration to become an effective natalia player: - Knowledge of every heroes and their skills. (Extremely useful in game) - Always be aware of the team's composition during draft picking. This includes their battlespells and roles. - Always learn to prioritize targets and avoid tanky heroes. Target lock is a must practice. (Stop auto clicking!!!! you might end up wasting your skills on high hp targets instead) - Learn when to go in a fight or whether or not to go in. (One of the most common reasons why beginner natalias die often is because they always go head on to a fight) - M A P A W A R E N E S S
@bitbybot3
@bitbybot3 2 жыл бұрын
This whole comment is kinda pointless as Elgin does most of the things you mentioned. He's been playing ml since long ago , he's quite good at it by now. I'm willing to be he's better then even you hum 😤
@DrotZawk
@DrotZawk 2 жыл бұрын
@@bitbybot3 Sorry if you may have misunderstood my comment but my second paragraph is not connected to the first one. I could point out the many things for he could've done better in the match if you'd like. As for my second paragraph, I am merely stating the essentials of being an effective natalia player.
@isenggamingg
@isenggamingg 2 жыл бұрын
What was your account tier in that game? Some of your team mates really low skill, and enemy double MM for sidelane 😄
@mekahans3678
@mekahans3678 2 жыл бұрын
Roam nata is still better IMO Roam nata still can kill enemy squishy hero or atleast give vision cuz she dont really need to farm But if you play jungle nata maybe you can use ulti more often, but if you got snowballled by enemy it will be so hard, you need item, and dont have dire hit roam effect
@earlthehunter
@earlthehunter 2 жыл бұрын
I think it's stupid specially for Natalia to have jungle dmg bonus embedded on her skill without the retri condition. I always try to steal buff every start of the game with her (without the current update), since I can always escape if the enemy roamer is not with the jungler early. With the current update she's more obnoxious early specially against ling and fanny who don't hide jg creeps in bushes early xD . I've actually have more success in stealing lv1 creeps now and since Natalia's 1 cast ult silence is the most important part of her kit(with passive) she somewhat better now... I dunno if it's intended but the dmg nerf is probably because of what I do and many others so with her early. Just wish they only nerfed early and not late because she doesn't matter late game anyways. . Remember, as Natalia you only need to scout, burst once leaving silence and wreck then leave your team to deal the finishing blow, this patch just adds a better incentive to be more obnoxious for purple reliant enemies xD. Roam Natalia is still better. . P.S I made a lot of fanny's and ling cry and tilt much after this patch hahaha.
@telroc6640
@telroc6640 2 жыл бұрын
I still prefer to play her as roamer because of the dire hit passive. When I need to recharge the ulti I just take the enemy's cockroach
@Elvynna512
@Elvynna512 2 жыл бұрын
She can invading enemies if you play her as jungler/roamer
@jadesuarez416
@jadesuarez416 2 жыл бұрын
HOPE YOU LIKE MY AAMON GAMEPLAY CAN ENTERTAIN FOR ALL OF YOU GOOD VIEWER THANK YOU 😊🔥
@jojoelio5537
@jojoelio5537 2 жыл бұрын
How about adjusting that cancerous ult of Fanny?
@Granglife
@Granglife 2 жыл бұрын
I'm probably sure Nata will fall the relevancy ladder after this nerf Cause Nata's kit is more suited as raomer than a Core she hence why she is popular as a living ward and solo pick machine But as jg to be present at objectives and clear jg which makes her pressure fall by 50% which makes her kit even worse since the role of a hero should define said hero not limit him So this is basically a nerf to nata
@johnclarenceoliveros6489
@johnclarenceoliveros6489 2 жыл бұрын
Just in case Elgin doesn't know it yet.... But.... RON means "Ruins of Necrokeep"
@DraudeCG
@DraudeCG 2 жыл бұрын
iglin FRAMEZEZY use this as side laner and using spell as a inspire it can literally 1 hit MM
@bleepbloplop7750
@bleepbloplop7750 2 жыл бұрын
Imo roamer natalia can do more than jungle natalia when she a roamer she can move freely around the meaning helping teammates more often jungle natalia need to farm creeps to level up but just roaming will slowly level her up
@Ieozawa
@Ieozawa 2 жыл бұрын
They just ruined my Redhead girl, I can't even play her in rank no more always gets banned and she is a god tier in roaming she can still be ngl, but you need to kill jungle creeps to reduce ult cd and it's just time consuming.
@littleflower8182
@littleflower8182 2 жыл бұрын
She is useless now. Why she is banned in ur server ?
@Ieozawa
@Ieozawa 2 жыл бұрын
@@littleflower8182 that's just how it is in PH server when a hero is OP or they think is OP they will prio ban it, Natalia is OP if used properly and picked in a draft right (even if the hero is nerfed the player isn't)
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