Is it time for the Kraken to blow it up? | Kraken R&R

[@jlm3619]

I’m at a loss. Just no words. 😳 I really wasn’t expecting this turn for the worst.

[@CheapSeatsSports]

Me either.

[@BWinDCI]

As a Sharks fan who has Kraken season tickets I’ve enjoyed the Sharks wins but I’m frustrated for Seattle. There is no team identity, defense is sloppy, and there is zero scoring depth from the third and fourth line.

[@d17a2dude]

Eberle held it all together. He's injured, so someone needs to step up and lead the team until Ebs is back.

[@jt_strickler]

“12 days of Christmas, or in this case 12 straight goals” had me dying hahaahahaha. Hoping we can get the ship wrighted on a tough east coast road trip coming up

[@papanojohns6510]

I don't think the sharks being given enough credit. We've had a bunch of close games this year even against teams towards the top of the league. I know we're not world beaters by any stretch. But I think we're a bit better than our record suggests. Espescially in this last stretch of games we've been getting better scoring from our defense, and it feels like they've built more chemistry. Not to mention Celebrini was out of the lineup for all but one game in October, and Will Smith is now starting to turn it on. I think we got more to show this season. Also Granlund is a beast!

[@CheapSeatsSports]

Celebrini looks really good. I'm not looking forward to having him in the division for the next decade plus. We already have to deal with McDavid. Still a year away but it'll be interesting to see how next year goes for him after Beniers and Bedard so far both had step backs in year two.

[@lenaburch6566]

TLDR love the guys, tough to love the team right now I’m sure I’m not the only one who was hoping a coaching change would bring some much needed energy and consistency but it seems like Dan and co have done everything they can to try and get this group going (call ups, healthy scratches, line blenders, etc.) and nothing seems to stick. Any momentum gained is almost immediately lost and the only consistency they had in Joey has been slipping cuz he can’t carry the entire team through the season by himself. It’s hard not to be frustrated when there seems to be no cohesion throughout the lineup and even when players try to step up (Monty, McCann, Wright), the energy doesn’t seem to be there from the rest of the team to sustain them through 20 minutes, let alone 60 minutes. I especially worry how this kind of play might impact Shane’s development, obviously he’s not in the position to be *the* difference maker this season but how can he develop into any sort of difference maker with a lack of support around him? Throw on top rough contracts limiting moves that can be made and it’s feeling harder to get excited about watching this team

[@ryangarcia3729]

This has been a really depressing week to be a Kraken fan.😢

[@CheapSeatsSports]

Yes

[@orionhunt7011]

If they won those last 3 games they’d be ahead of Calgary and in a playoff spot.

[@CheapSeatsSports]

Instead they have a worse point percentage than the Ducks.

[@lrwill3083]

I can’t even…. Something has to change

[@Quantum-yz9fc]

It really seems like basically nobody on the Kraken can shoot. I don't mean they don't take shots, I mean they just can't seem to shoot accurately. It's always wide or right to the goaltender.

[@unplugged123]

As a Canucks fan.. i want to see Seattle do well and build a rivalry with us. Ron Francis needs to go. He builds teams way to conservatively.

[@CheapSeatsSports]

That would be a fun rivalry. Or will be at some point. Francis is good at drafting and pretty good at finding value mid lineup talent which could work if draft into a superstar or two, but I think his big weakness is not being willing to take big swings on trades like Vegas has done constantly.

[@sea_mellem]

Welcome to the Bylsma Experience

[@CheapSeatsSports]

None of this is particularly new to this season tho. It seems like it might be more of a player issue.

[@sea_mellem]

@CheapSeatsSports I guess it seems so. The puck possession is awful in some particular.

[@micmuffles8563]

Im still relatively new to hockey and don't really understand how much players are worth in trades. But, instead of trading our valuable pieces like Daccord, McCann or Beniers, what could they get for players with expiring contracts like Gourde, Tanev, Borgen or even Grubauer? Like instead of draft picks, could they try to retain some of their salaries, and try to pick up some hidden gems or just some smaller contracts, or are trades like that hard to do? Instead of a lengthy rebuild based purely on drafting, since we have a solid, young core, I feel like a full on rebuild would be too much, and we just need a slight re-tooling. We got Tolvanen from a waiver claim, Kartye was undrafted, and is on a Entry level contract (was a key player in our playoff run), Daccord was let go by Ottowa, and signed with us for $1.2 million. wouldn't it would be faster to go that route? Like I said, I don't understand what a player is worth in trades so I might be seeing this completely wrong.

[@CheapSeatsSports]

Players on expiring contracts have more value typically since the new team isn't tied to them for more than the remainder of that season. So it's less risky. Longer contracts are more difficult as the team also has to be ok with the contract too. You can retain some of a remaining contract to help with that but that then is money you can't spend on new players. So teams usually only retain money in trades if they don't plan on being good for a couple years.

[@micmuffles8563]

@@CheapSeatsSports Oh ok. that all does make sense. So Burakovsky and Grubauer's contract is that ugly huh? :/ Those are the 2 main contracts that seem like they will be impossible to get rid of...

[@TradingFeline]

What losing to the 2024 Sharks does to a fan base

[@CheapSeatsSports]

Once is what it is. Twice in back to back days is another thing entirely.

[@DEVlLLAlN]

My issue is Chandler Stephenson. -10 and more TOI than any other center we have. His passing is terrible. His hustle is terrible. His defense is terrible. Why hasn't he been benched? I don't care that he's gotten points recently - his play this season does not warrant the contract he was given. Nor does it explain taking minutes from Wright's ability to develop at the NHL level. If we're going to lose can we at least get youngsters play time?

[@CheapSeatsSports]

He's been ok to me, reliable to win a faceoff when needed and good in transition. Not worth what he's been paid, but fine. Either way he was out with illness for this game so can't blame him for this one.

[@nfl_pug_nm]

it was goaltender interference because the kraken player backed into blackwood and literally moved his mask

[@Gauweezy]

The team is imploding. A shake-up is needed. Look at Nashville last year, Edmonton's terrible 1st quarter. Unfortunately someone needs to go. Burakovsky, Schwartz, Tanev, Gourde, Larsson Something has to be done

[@danielmorrison571]

or sharks r just good.

[@Lukeiskraken-m9s]

I was there and it was bs these refs suck

[@trisarahtops202]

I'm going to the game against Chicago at the United Center here in a little over two weeks. I am so scared of how this game is going to turn out following this series of games against the Sharks and Ducks. My boyfriend is a Hawks fan so this is a big game for us and I swear if we lose I am never going to hear the end of it. I wonder how much of an impact the injury to Ebs is having on our offensive production and I would also like to know wtf is happening with Gru. Like is he not trying to play as well now that Daccord has kinda gotten the spot light and he feels he can relax or is age catching up to him? He's freshly 33 but there are still older goalies in the league seemingly doing better than him. I don't know. I just scared about this Chicago game🥲

[@martybraga4832]

Your goaltending blows.

[@oblonghas]

painful to watch

[@oblonghas]

grew up in cali and I'm fond of the sharks, but the kraken just looked bad