Is It Time To Buy a 'Bargain' M3 or M5? | The Last Manual N/A BMWs

[@RoadsUntraveled]

So?! What it's going to be? M3 or M5? I think there's never been a better time to pick one of these up... if you're prepared for any potential problems.

[@clinttube]

Neither - get a V10 M6 w/ the factory 6-speed. I got mine a few months ago because I just couldn't believe you'd be able to get em with 35k-75k miles for $30,000-$45,000 much longer. Way rarer than either of these cars too - only 701 V10 M6 manuals total: 323 coupes 378 convertibles. The V8 M3 is a unicorn configuration among M3's. The stick V10 M5 or M6 is a unicorn configuration among automobiles, period. At least until you're dropping minimum 3x the $ for an R8 V10 manual or Viper. Gotta do the homework though on service history and buy >3/2007 builds to get major reliability updates and oil pan that drains easier. The coupe is only like 250 lbs. heavier than the E92. I know it's not the same of course and dynamically doesn't feel as tossable, but for similar $ the M6 is just a much nicer car than the M3 (better be considering it was $110k in 07). I'm totally a fan of all 3 though not hating - in most colors the M6 is probably the least aesthetically beautiful. Pick what you like best they're all sick cars.

[@timbardam5878]

@@clinttube m3 cause the m5 v10 are prone to detonate them self

[@misterpacha1]

​@@clinttubeare there solutions to the v10 m5s engine and reliability issues? U mentioned some but what if we can't find the model u are talking about

[@clinttube]

​@@misterpacha1 preface this by saying I've only been a BMW owner for

[@classiccarssp]

Neither, I prefer the iconic E39 M5! No Bangle here 😅

[@devin4369]

The color on that M5 is gorgeous

[@imaadcajee]

Interlagos Blue, it's even more gorgeous on the e92.

[@ultimatum127]

@@imaadcajee but even better on the e46

[@Adrianmichael04]

It’s simple, part out the e60 make a e9X V10 M3 👌

[@RoadsUntraveled]

This is Elvis' recipe as well haha

[@BooTub3]

I’ve always said the E92’s body with the E60’s V10 is 🤌🏽 Also, I’m not the biggest Audi fan but I think the E92 and the RS5 from around the same time period are the two most beautiful cars ever made. So simple and aggressive yet so subtle

[@matthewwaldrup149]

Lmao I’ve always wanted to do that with my e90 m3

[@reggiecam9134]

Something about the e60 feel more special

[@freezersnout]

Y'all's enthusiasm is infectious and Elvis makes a great cohost

[@kayzenl7911]

I love the vibe of these two. Two passionate people that understand you can’t compare and ask the same thing from NA to turbo. Two amazing car that will go down as legend

[@jeremiahex]

I own 2 well taken care of by previous owners E60 M5s: 1 for road trips, 1 for daily driving. Fantastic machines! Warm them up, proper maintenance, do the work yourself, and enjoy a true iconic car. SMG transmission is solid, what fails is the electric motor that drives the smg pump. E-motor failed on my daily at 50k miles. It’s a $500 part. I replaced it on jack stands; Presto!

[@1kontrabida]

Ive been contemplating on getting another v10 for that purpose lol. or have a spare engine at least.

[@gureno19]

Big end bearing failures scares me.... 😢

[@Tax_Mny]

I literally saw a V8 m3 yesterday and started going down the rabbit hole yesterday now here's it is I see your video 😮 Must be a sign

[@MrPTManning]

Do it. I've had mine for 6 years and I'm still not bored with it.

[@Tax_Mny]

@@MrPTManning I'm currently building my second G8. If I wasn't I'd definitely build one of these or

[@martinsuareznunez2620]

Alghorithm , scarry stuff

[@clinttube]

​@@Tax_Mny​ Nice I mean in a perfect world you could start monitoring V8 M3 listings for deals on a daily and not have to reassemble/disassemble the G8 between working on it. Obviously that's tough $-wise though - I wasn't in that position until recently but you could then switch to collector car insurance on one and probably have minimal extra recurring cost. I have 2 Holdens too and love em, both stick: a G8 GXP and 05 SAP GTO that I'll be selling fairly soon and the above scenario happened to me. After 4+ months of hunting for a deal on a good V10 M6 6-speed, a nice one appeared 12 mins away from me and I was able to get it for at least 15% below what it'd go for at a dealer. Not ideal financially parking extra cash in vehicles but the price and opportunity/convenience made it worth it. Especially cus the BMW's collector car insurance + state taxes are

[@Vgk36]

Rabbit hole is understatement 😂 kzbin.info/www/bejne/e6bJcoloiq58d68si=Mm_lEKu3aLpPAIvd

[@jaycellier6718]

I have an e92 M3 manual since 2014. I still love it since day one.

[@lancegallant3647]

nice :-) me as well but b7 rs4 :-)

[@AbdulHaq11901]

​@@lancegallant3647 lovely car too man

[@lancegallant3647]

@@AbdulHaq11901 deff both awsome broski

[@jakegarage]

Had a blast filming this with you guys! Putting a V10 in the E92… is an interesting idea ;)

[@RoadsUntraveled]

I'm thinking a drift car... 😎

[@RolanTHUNDER]

Do it and bring it back here ;)

[@xerminador3303]

​@@RoadsUntraveledsome guy in brazil did exactly that

[@ederss7]

There's one in Europe.

[@RolanTHUNDER]

@@ederss7 the one on the UK drift channel? I think it's a black M3

[@joehernandez4323]

I have 2 e60 M5's and 3 e63 M6's, all with SMG v3 as they were designed specifically for this v10 engine. 2 of them are stroked to 5.8L and 5.7L. I have no complaints and as you can tell with owning multiple v10's, I love them. There is no other experience then these platforms from BMW. That is why if you notice, mostly everyone will laugh hysterically when they hear these vehicles while driving them.

[@Shift4g]

Never heard anyone in today's time say the E60 hasn't aged well lol

[@technom3598]

It hasn't. It was ugly when it was new. It wasn't well received and it's still kinda ugly. I worked for bmw in this period

[@Shift4g]

@@technom3598 Everybody knows it wasn't well received, every review said that. It still has more non car people thinking it's newer than it is than not when seeing it...which is the meaning of aging welI not whether you find it ugly or not. When you see an E39/34/28/12 they all immediately look like the era they are from.

[@technom3598]

@@Shift4g thats because many less expensive cars have stolen the design language from the chris bangle era. The design language was and is still implemented on lesser expensive cars making this still look somewhat relevant. But... Make no mistake... This is not a timeless design and it will absolutely date itself much more than an e39

[@Shift4g]

@@technom3598 I don't find many BMWs to have timeless designs (save for the 507/Z8), they all look of their time. Some just do so sooner than others. That being said, looking timeless isn't a prerequisite for me and many others to like the way they look.

[@technom3598]

@@Shift4g that's fine and to each their own. But timeless design is what is important or to be iconic. That's the design game. Many prewar BMWs were great 507. E9. E30 m3 is iconic. E39 timeless. E46 even though it's not my fav. 1m. They have had some good ones.

[@LeMans.M3]

Had my e92 M3 for 5 years and never fails to put a smile on my face.

[@daveisasdavedoes3558]

This is a cool video. I was facing this dilemma a few years ago, I had my E92 DCT M3 for nearly 3 years at the time and I wanted to try the V10. So, I bought an LCI SMG E60 M5, no manual option for us in Europe, but my plan was always to address that. Initially I thought the M5 would replace the M3, as you say, they have similar dynamics on the face of it, certainly out of the box. I was slowly modifying the M3. So, I took the M5 across europe and down to the Nürburgring, it was brilliant but on track, with a decent suspension setup on the M3, it's much more nimble. I never liked the manual in the M3, I didn't like the clutch engagement, 1st is too short, third is too long, the gearbox just doesn't align, the DCT works very very well. I agree with you on the swapped V10, the gearing is less of an issue, this is due to how you'd use the car, and there's a lot more torque in the V10. In the end, I kept them both as they do different things. To fix the issues with the M3, I did the following: - Ohlins Road and Track - M Performance inconel exhaust, with a primary cat delete - Eventuri Plenum - Alcon BBK - Recaro Sportster CS with lowered rails To fix the M5 - Manual swap keeping the SMG diff - Autosolutions Short Shift kit, which completely resolves the shifter feel, and if you run ATF 1100 fluid, there's no notchy shifter. - Eventuri plenum to come - Eisenmann race to come On the E46, it needs the same mods as the E92 to feel right. On the E39 M5, I daily drove one for 3 years, the E60 manual swapped is better in every way, yes a bit heavier, but the seating position on the E39 M5, is worse than the E92, the brakes are terrible and the biggest issue, which no one talks about is the steering feel, the recirculating box is just always in the back of your mind.

[@dylanbarden7083]

I have to say the m3 comp wheels are honestly one of the nicest looking stock wheels ever produced.

[@PetarVN]

Had both! In fact that’s my ex M3 in the video (hi Jake 😉) and the M5 is the more impressive one IMO. Both rock though

[@FloHilux69]

Are they actually though. I mean as nice as they are, don’t they have a reputation for being unreliable?

[@jeremiahex]

@@FloHilux69 s65 v8 and s85v10 are one in the same: both need rod bearings change because of their high revving nature, thick oil, and rod bearing clearance. If a person constantly sits on the rev-limiter, no matter the engine, it will suffer damage. I have 2 E60 M5s and they are fantastic!

[@patrickdonahue3400]

Fellow e90 owner here. How tf did you keep that interior from falling apart. These materials are so fragile!!!

[@kenkeeej]

i would take the m5 everyday , that car is rowdy af

[@E92Harold]

I'm getting an E92 M3 this weekend!!! Been my achievable dream car for since I passed my driving test 10 years ago

[@Vgk36]

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[@DrGammaMindset]

Awesome video fellas. Just found your channel and loved this M3 M5 drive felt like I was in that car with you. Fantastic. M3 for me.

[@RoadsUntraveled]

Glad you found us! :D Elvis and I are revisiting this M3 soon... with boost

[@sveeny]

Most tasteful E60 M5 I've ever seen. The blue, the silver BBS, that gorgeous intake, the exhaust, the raised rev limit and of course the gearbox make this such a fantastic package. Owner must be a true connoisseur! :)

[@paisleyF]

I have an e60 M5, love it the eisenmann exhaust is godly. However I still daily check all the sites for e9x

[@nissansfinest3245]

The V10 swap has been done for years especially in the E46. Its just a youtube search away. Phil Morrison of Driftworks bought his V10 E46 back and rebuilt it.

[@carfan5296]

Yep E30 ///M3 as well

[@Poorschedriver]

15:43 This is why we love cars. Great job guys. Elvis' laugh is contagious!

[@tractioncontroldelete]

Great segment! You two work great together btw.

[@TheGoldenDrive]

Amazing video brother, was so much fun getting to experience both cars back to back. Best M cars in my opinion 🙌🙌

[@RoadsUntraveled]

Yeah my ears are still ringing haha. It was a good drive!

[@TheSpeedAddiction]

Great to see Elvis on this channel 😎

[@RoadsUntraveled]

Sometimes I need my opinions checked 😂

[@TheSpeedAddiction]

@@RoadsUntraveled The new "Straight Pipes" :)

[@CarsOverPeople]

My 2 fave ///M cars. And I’d probably take the E60 M5 over the E92 M3. In case you guys didn’t already know, the V8 (S65) in the M3 is literally the same as the V10 (S85) in the M5 but with 2 cylinders chopped off (& a different tune, obviously). Also, the E60 M5 is the ONLY 4 door sedan with a rwd, manual & a NA V10 (hence making it a true exotic car).

[@RoyDeMeo-2]

Elvis!!!! So good to see you dude! Greetings from Nashville and Nashville C&C!

[@garryfounds]

I have that V10 in an E64 M6 convertible (V10 sound with top down is heaven, and with the top down, the balance in corners is amazing) and an E90 M3 Competition (practical Kid-hauling track car). Sometimes I have to pinch myself! These are not my favorite M cars--these are my favorite cars ... ever!

[@bradfoster8146]

That M5 is absolutely incredible. It sounds unbelievable

[@m5honcho588]

I’ve owned an e60 m5. I miss it! Best car

[@pplace993]

Currently have an E60 M5 with the SMG! It's not as bad as people make it! I used to own a 2011 M3 comp with the dct and it was great as well, but it's something that the E60 does to you! I've owned mine for 7yrs and I've only owned the M3 for a year, so that's in it self says a lot! Great video!!!

[@RolanTHUNDER]

Great video guys! It's gotta be the M5 V10 for me. It sounds fantastic and even better than the already impressive sounding M3 V8 and come on, it's a V10. That's really the biggest attraction of that M5 and arguably a bigger attraction than the V8. Both being manual is a big plus as well. As for the looks, yeah the M3 is better looking but that M5 is no ugly duckling either

[@mhiscott]

Cool comparison. I've got an E92 M3 6MT and an E60 M5 6MT also in Canada. While the M3 handles better, the S85 (with long tube headers especially) sounds totally out of hand. My M5 was 6MT from the factory. Also LCI like this one.

[@voltmasters5217]

I had my E60 M5 next to an 2024 M2 . They’re the same size !!!😅 amazing😊

[@d.4063]

Own(ed) both of them. The E92 M3 is the better all round car. It is daily driveable. Feels tight and compact. Is 100% reliable with good maintenance. Sounds great. The E60 M5 is on another level. It feels super car like. When the SMG hits from 4th to 5th, the slap is so hard and the speed is so high that you start to think you are in a time machine. The screaming V10 is better than music. Even with preventative maintenance it was not perfect reliability wise. But as far as the experience goes: it is unmatched!

[@Junglecp]

Love the enthusiasm in both off you. New to you guys, loved it.

[@plujmoto8744]

Wow impressive mileage on that m3, looks clean!

[@seven92023]

That V10 is one of the best sounding engines. But I will always choose the E92 M3.

[@xxbucajucaxx7426]

Most people seem to think the m5 has aged great. People hated the look when it came out, as time passes it seems to look better.

[@horvathr95]

Actually, the bangle era bmw’s sold really well compared to the e38/e39/e46 era. BMW’s became to conservative in styling by the 90’s and it needed to be changed

[@demetriusford]

That V10 with a titanium exhaust would be crazy

[@TTGamingTrinh]

E92 M3 is my favorite all time tbh. Beautiful car

[@Birmingham_racing]

The v10 sounds godly

[@panda51829able]

Love my 2010 E60 M5 ❤️‍🔥

[@MBS..]

you interested in selling?

[@panda51829able]

@@MBS.. if the price is right

[@MBS..]

@@panda51829able how many miles and what color? i’ve been looking for a 2010 M5 but there isn’t many in the U.S, and the ones i find are typically high mileage with no history of rod bearings or any of the other major maintenance done on it.

[@musicandmusic9796]

Same here, 2010 Monaco blue with silver stone leather, smg and full Dinan exhaust

[@panda51829able]

@@musicandmusic9796I got a Silverstone II with black interior ❤

[@jstoli996c4s]

You better have deep pockets 💰 to own either of these cars, especially the V10

[@jamesstaggs4160]

We can wave goodbye to them being reasonably priced. When cars wind up in KZbin videos with a title like "Best performance car bargain!! Why is this car so cheap?" the price on them goes up as everyone who has them for sale thinks they have the next air cooled 911.

[@erniearambula3525]

The scream of the E60 M5 is worth the admission alone.

[@ibrahimakz]

12:06 I can confirm, a shorter gear works well. My e92 m3 has BMW Motorsport 4.44 Final Drive and it drives great. Topspeed is not important for me (it’s not more than 280-290kmh) but lower rpms and acceleration are better.

[@geedunk13]

At @9:10 I thought that beep was a long line of profanities about the new BMW steering 😂😂

[@jacobxpalma]

I was like agreeed 😂

[@Cee_M3]

The E92 is still such a beautiful car, especially the M3. The front is near perfect! The only thing I would have liked is for the rear to have been widened as aggressively as the treatment the E90 got. The coupe rear doesn’t match the front as well as the sedan does. It’s still my favorite driving experience of the M3s, though the E46 and E36 are the ones I’d choose for a track. I want the S85 but I want it in the E63 M6.

[@starrdogchamp1]

new co host? this was a great episode

[@RoadsUntraveled]

Glad you liked it! I'm sure he'll be back

[@musicandmusic9796]

There is this sweet spot in the m5 I find, when you hit approx 4500 rpm’s the sound becomes harmonic. Don’t get me wrong at 8200 the true orchestra awakens.

[@rdle272]

that V10 engine note is insane, high pitch! Love it. But e92 M3 much more of a looker and classic design.

[@MrRez86]

The v10 was sweet and it sounded nice

[@tagtag-connected5263]

Are you crazy? It’s like have a full meal and a snack. S85 v10 all day everyday. The sound of that engine is about the best produced in bmw history for consumer vehicles

[@MichaelSmith17]

E92 M3 all the time! It's just an amazing car with one great sounding standard exhaust 😌

[@dwaynebolan2583]

Great video guys! Please do a F80 vs G80 video. Thanks again

[@immillnr1868]

Instantly subscribed and 👍liked

[@sergiupavlov9953]

to make this list complete, in year of 2008 you could buy from BMW dealership all 3 M Cars options including Z4M inline NA S54 powered M car, that would be a wild comparison

[@EightyFiveHundred]

S everal M ore G rand for a swap! 14 years and 197,000 miles on my Dinan S2 6 speed e60 m5. Had e39m5 that I would run laps at Buttonwillow. Have e28m5 stroked restomod track tool. Have an e30 racecar. I have to laugh, every time I hear, “the s85 was designed for the SMG”. Take a second think how silly that statement is, s85 does not care what GEAR RATIOS are bolted up to it. Go to any racetrack and you’ll find guys swapping gears to match the track. I know if my run my 4.10s at certain tracks, I will gear out on faster/longer tracks. It was the 3.62 gearing shared between the 7 speed SMG and 6 Speed transmission, which was mismatched as an AFTERTHOUGHT by the bean counters. Bean counters shared the 3.62 for the 7 Speed SMG and the 6 Speed to cut costs. The 6 speed didn’t have the best gear ratios, when mated to the shared 3.62 - optimized with 7 gears. To cut costs, the bean counters jammed a square peg into a round hole. While a 3.91, with 6 gears, optimized the torque curve of the s85. The s85 doesn’t care what transmission is bolted up to it.

[@m.m_11]

I like the manual trans in the m5 but it doesn’t really go to well with the s85 the smg is really a pain in the ass but the gear ratios are perfect which makes sense the smg 3 was made specifically for the S85. A dct m5 would be very interesting and if I decide to swap mine I’d probably go for the dct instead of the manual.

[@14KShadow]

This is video i'll watch many many times

[@acmurda84]

The last E92 M3 on this channel was mine almost 10 years ago and ppl were saying I was asking too much for it @42 cdn 😂

[@eddiefumar]

The V10 singing…❤

[@755hp]

Long gearing can be annoying for street spirited driving. For example, my ZX10R’s first gear goes up to 90mph! Not fun to be able to go through gears and rev the engine out without getting into high speed trouble/safety on the street. But a ZX6R would be better suited with shorter gear ratios.

[@ZakTakesFlight]

M3 e92 looks perfect and modern even today, can’t say the same about the e60. I don’t know what it is, but something just puts me off looking at it. Like I really want to enjoy how it looks, but I can’t

[@MrEdit74]

Beautiful cars, period.

[@aroundtheworld3393]

M5 for me!!!!!🎉🎉🎉

[@peterhammer6915]

I love the S85 but as a car I would take the M3 any day. Had one for 5 years.

[@Mousiee7sg]

Give me the M5......that S85 sounds way better than the S65. The SMG suits the S85 better than the manual.

[@eddiedawkinskingofuniverse]

Two crazies on four wheels.....

[@racingdreamz8021]

I have a 2007 M6 SMG & Also a 08 Corvette C6 manual…….The vette smokes the hell outta the BMW

[@SteffenGo_]

I had both and I kept my M3 :-) I was really tired of the SMG after a year of daily driving it. As a manual I would have prob kept it too. Speaking of value, I sold my last year for 55k Euro.

[@grandmer8]

You need to try a e92 with a 4.44 final drive 👌🏻 the std manual definitely is geared way too tall

[@jacobschuette254]

That m5 color is awesome but I’m not a fan of the sound of that v10 or the cars looks

[@zuhayrm]

I couldn't agree more The M3!!

[@ldhofann1]

This looks like the roads over at Fort Langley.

[@buffaloniankao]

Men's laughter is so genuine

[@1kontrabida]

Having own and still own M cars all FI'd out new and older, each M have their characteristics. For me the E39 M5 is the goat, this model that was famously dubbed as the wolf in sheeps clothing. Size, Power, looks is on point, just install 9.5 all around and slap some RA1's and ur good for the meantime lol! add a 3.45 diff and an ESS supercharger and skip the CAI or dinan S2 been there done that and nothing i mean nothing will come close to an ESS supercharged V8 now we're talking lol. BMW M division should drive the e39 M5 every time whenever they start designing a newer model for reference jmho. As for the e60 M5 i call the deep sea diver, gives me a different grin whenever i drive it, If u own one keep and maintain it because once everyone understands that the rod bearing issue was overly exaggerated by people not understanding what their talking about and will just need to read the manual to know how to properly maintain and drive the car, the price will go up exponentially starting next year. F10 is ok but loving the F90 over, imma skip on the new hybrid M5, anything electrical when it comes to any european car is so much more complicated as they age so imma have to pass on the next M5. As for the M3 i'd start on the e46 M3 great car e9x is good track car out of the box and for people complaining on the lower tq number its because when ur at the track ur basically on second third and 4th at a higher revs thats where u need the most attention on tq and rev match to maintain that power if i have to choose which E9x ill choose the E90 M3 not sure why but its solid specially at the track, The F82 M4 well balanced car i wish they kept the size of the e9x other than that no complaints on the engine and mods u can add is a breath of fresh air from previous models u dont have to spend a lot the downside if something happens on the engine it can be pricey. Haven't picked up a G82 M4 but have heard good things about them, thinking of the first gen M2.

[@AutomotiveAnatomy]

Love the sound of both. I cant remember the name of the exhaust that can be partner up with the v10 and it would be sound amazing

[@erenyeager9772]

Eisenmann?

[@JasonLaCharity]

There is a V10 E92 M3 on Driftwerks channel

[@MrVangboi05]

Yall should do a review on this one guy's e46 m3 with the V10 swap.

[@semajharmon5777]

Not that they’re easy to find but E63 m6s are the best m cars of the 2000s

[@lancegallant3647]

Awsome whips ❤ them both 100 % but also love my b7 rs4 unreal machine :-)

[@VerryJerry90]

The one you pick is the one that costs less of a headache to maintain 😅

[@davidestate]

The only reason you can find these cars are great prices and far from the original pricing is because all M-Cars become endless money pits. The older cars have less modules and stronger engines before all the known BMW M-Engine problems, known today.

[@rudygay9329]

Good luck finding a decent e60 m5 in the states they have pretty much become pre historic most have blown motors most people can’t afford to maintain it the m3 are definitely still around and easier to get but I’m seeing less and less of those aswell

[@Anon_Fox]

They are definitely rare. My neighbor had a clean one in black that was so beautiful. He barely ever drove the thing because he said it costed $1000/drive lol

[@voltmasters5217]

M5!!!POWER!!!

[@CEOshaqo]

m3 is so beautiful needs to be in a glass case

[@CarburetedKilos]

I have an 07 M6 with MT, I am craving an e92 MT. Any others out there? Would love someone’s take.

[@widme9884]

16:15 The question is have you switched from 400 to 507 hp M button?

[@kentbeitel9966]

This is one of my favorite sounding v8’s. This and a de stroked highrevving 8-1 header Ls 😂🤷🏻‍♂️

[@BP-fx3qc]

The last two gundams.

[@joet3866]

A 4 door with a v10 that goes over 200... I show up to car shows and every1 looks to see what sounds better than the Lamborghini and ferrari. You can park that sedan next to super cars at a car show and people that know about cars, know

[@Sikeslikescars]

Never realized just how large the E60 is. My e92 is not a small car by any means…but it looks like one next to the e60. 😂 both beautiful, both dram cars.

[@CaptainAries98]

i'll probly take the e92 m3 if i had the money for it and learn to drive stick or have someone teach me since i never drove stick even tho i know the pattern. not sure if that's the right word for it but i always drove automatic vehicles and scared shitless to drive manual since i don't know anyone who daily drives a manual

[@brandondarmani8089]

I prefer the m5 looks and engine wayyyyyy better, in my opinion

[@vktravellog1242]

I dont mind a M3 V6 twin turbo but what I hate is a ford f150 and the stupid eco boost. F150 should be a V8

[@christian247ful]

Did you even push the m button to unleash the maximum power on the m5?

[@112hounddog]

I can't help but think these guys did not put the M5 into M mode and were driving it around in 400hp mode

[@matthewwaldrup149]

I’ve owned my e90 m3 for 2 years and I STILL feel weird redlining it. I ALWAYS stay under 5k lmao