Is It Time to Redefine CAMPING?

[@doramather4729]

Camping is a recreational activity that allow people to enjoy the outdoors with a tent, cabin or an rv of any kind and size .

[@kr639]

@@doramather4729 no camping and glamping / RV ing are two different things Both activities allow people to recreate outdoors

[@michaelschaefer5014]

One thing camping should be is respecting nature, fellow campers, and cleaning up after yourself. No matter what travel accommodations you use. That is what real camping is. Too bad people leave huge messes

[@sykesc2]

I totally agree! It is sad that in this day and age people feel they must perpetuate a "them and us" world. I can't physically sleep on the ground in a tent anymore. Does that mean I get my "camper card" rescinded? I chose to continue to enjoy nature with the assistance of a travel trailer. Let's just all go out and enjoy nature in whatever way we are able. Thanks for a thought-provoking video, Jason. ❤

[@kenhoyer8601]

" Camping " in a 30ft mobile home is kind of like bringing your your vacation home with you. It's all good, but there is nothing like rolling your bag out under the stars.

[@s.porter8646]

Gatekeeper or, over watchers ..so, a couple that have been living in campgrounds for 5 years...these are my heros

[@captainskippy6622]

We have a very comfortable 35ft 5th wheel and I must admit I don’t call it “camping”. What do I call it? Relaxing. Rejuvenating. Togetherness. In our younger years, my wife and I did hike and camp along the Appalachian Trail sleeping on the ground in tents or shelters. That was 36 years ago. Now, in our latter years, we just want to be with each other and enjoy our time together and repose in comfort.

[@rollingeezer]

Totally agree. The only additional point I would add is that camping isn’t just to experience the natural wonders of our planet. It’s also an option for exploring man made locations around our country and planet. While staying in a campground we can spend time exploring nature or visiting a State and/or community we’ve never been to before. That’s the great advantage of camping no matter the method of camping we choose.

[@HikerTrailers]

We couldn't agree more! Camping can be for anyone at any budget or skill level. Get out and have some fun!

[@judykpremier]

Some resort campgrounds have little to no connection with nature. Not to mention the parking lot i recently saw in Las Vegas that calls itself a campground. Not one tree. But, if you're in a camper, what else could it be but camping?

[@rogergraves242]

Very True

[@shutupstoopid4518]

Life comes in seasons, we used to be in tent and sleeping bag season now we are in 44' toyhauler season next we might be in class B season or back to a tent ...don't know but it's all good

[@joanhall3718]

I started my camping, age 0 to 5 car camping. Because I was the youngest child we started backpacking as soon as I could walk 4-5 miles then ride on my Dad’s shoulders. He had a large external framed pack and his youngest daughter on his shoulders. As an adult none of my significant others would backpack. First I stayed in cabins with my ex. My husband would go out in a truck camper. Since he passed away I’ve been tent camping with friends. Now I’m having a Van built out into a camper to retire into. It’s all a journey.

[@grillinandchillinwithdeb]

Wow, we had been tent camping all our lives 65 years( since childhood) even took our kids for years. With that we bought a small camper 5 years ago and traded for bigger rig this year. Some people don't realize as you get older you can't lay on the ground especially when it's damp or cold out or you have medical conditions that you need certain comfort.

[@troypatterson5862]

Well said on a tough topic. I share your view. There are as many aspects of camping as there are different types of people. Safe travels.

[@jbcoker]

I live full time in a small travel trailer, when I go camping I use the rooftop tent on my gladiator.

[@warren6899]

From South Africa outdoorsing is the umbrella term. Some subgroups, vehicle / trailer or caravan / ground tenting / backpacking / motorcycle teardrop / mini / maxi trailer/

[@rickh59verizonnet]

Good job, Jason. So many people want to divide us up into a million categories, when we are all humans experiencing life in different ways. Let’s stop with the labels and start helping each other have the best lives possible.

[@RVMiles]

💯

[@electricamish]

We stopped using the word " camping " after we purchased the first trailer with a microwave in it.....we just call it getting away, because that's our personal goal , is just getting away from the daily. And like so many people we feel that to call it camping insults some, and most just say, " you can't call that camping "

[@dianabanana6724]

I call it vacationing or more specifically vacationing in my tiny home on wheels. And I agree with you. I believe it's an insult to those who truly are camping.

[@ayranmcintosh]

My first experience "camping" was sleeping in a sleeping bag in our backyard. That led to sleeping at state parks and national parks. Graduated from sleeping outdoors to sleeping in a tent, then to a pop-up tent trailer, and now to a hard-sided RV. We're full-time RVers, but I still consider it "camping".

[@NelloCambelli]

Defining the “Camping Experience” created a fine episode. Gud onyah!

[@SMLPhotography1]

Bravo!

[@tedsouhrada7095]

Good piece Jason! I think we've all experienced different types of camping as we move through life. When we were tenters, and then pop up campers, those of us in that community used to refer to people who progressed to a large RV as "Going to the dark side". Now, most of the people I knew in that group have done just that, ourselves included. Our needs changed, and so did our desire to have more comfort when traveling. We still love a good tent and sleeping bag but our middle aged bodies have voted to the contrary... Happy camping!

[@eugenebreindel]

Well put!😊

[@penneemw]

Well said. We slept on the ground in a tent when we were younger. We are now retired now and enjoy travel in our fifth wheel. That same argument is thrown out there regarding terminology of many activities.

[@terratechoffroad9665]

My parent’s bought our first motorhome when I was 2 years old and we went on some amazing trips but a lot of our time was spent camping at race tracks. Yes that’s what we called it., camping. No services just a place to sleep in an empty field with other like minded motorsports enthusiasts. Since that time I have done lots of tent camping accessing remote Crown land using canoes, ATV’s, UTV’s and Jeeps and oddly enough still called it camping. With 10 years of military service and 30 years of remote law enforcement patrol I have also slept out in -30C temps in hand built improvised shelters or bell tents without a floor. Someone else called those “exercises” or “survival courses” but it really was still camping, just a harder, colder version of it. These days I’m in my 50’s and I hang with the overland crowd. Why? Because I love off road vehicles, I love camping and I enjoy some of the creature comforts our little 14 foot trailer provides. This set up also allows us to travel with our daughter who has special needs so this community is a great fit for us. I will admit that in my definition a high end Class A motorhome parked on a cement pad with 2 roof airs running isn’t my idea of “camping” but that’s ok. I’d still happily have a conversation with the owner and be interested in hearing about their adventures. I guess my point is we all come from different walks of life with different experiences so we all have a slightly different definition. A person who grew up in a large city would probably think a weekend at a KOA roasting their first marshmallow over an open fire would probably think it was a magical experience with their neighbours 15 feet away and others will scoff. The fact that people are out enjoying themselves should be all that matters. 🇨🇦

[@henryfelts8915]

Having camped for 17 yrs in the Army was the basic camping in different location. Our version of RV's were our trucks or mechanized track vehicles.

[@stevenreas7437]

Over 60 years ago, canvas center pole, umbrella tent camping. Then tent with side lobe, external aluminum supports. I still have our old Coleman stove. State and national parks. Have tent camped in 46 of the lower 48 states. Had light weight dome tent and pup tents for our two boys. Up graded to popup camper with a/c. Retired now, my wife and I really enjoy our 30' fifth wheel. Nice bed, bath, shower, kitchen, coffee when I want. Always enjoy NOT being in a hotel/motel. Nice "rustic" RV parks, not RV "resorts". Enjoy it all.

[@Jillybean620]

Very nicely said!

[@RVMiles]

Thank you kindly!

[@redbagsrambler9326]

Okay, here's my example of why all forms of camping are not under the same umbrella. You're spending a summer traveling by bicycle to explore this country at a human pace. Everything you need is on the bike, including tent, stove, etc. You've pedaled about sixty miles that day and looking for a legal place to set up for the night. Happily, you see a sign indicating a campground pointing down a side road heading toward the river. You pedal the extra ten miles to the campground as the sky grows darker. You step into the office of the half full campground and request a tent site. The lady behind the counter looks at you and responds, "Sorry. We don't allow tents." Only a mile from my house is a sign with a tent symbol and the word camping beneath it. However, there is only one campground and it doesn't allow tents, only RV's less than ten years old. I've traveled by bicycle and motorcycle a lot, and I've run into increasing situations where campgrounds I used to overnight regularly no longer accept my tent. If all forms of camping were under the same umbrella, then a commercial campground advertising "camping" would accommodate all types under that umbrella. I will give KOA's credit. They ARE expensive, but at least they always seem to have tent sites. Sure, one can always make reservations and phone campgrounds ahead of time to check tenting policies. However, that's not always possible. Bicycle travelers and backpackers in particular are affected by a variety of factors such as weather, fatigue, mechanical issues, unexpected detours, etc which often make reserving a site days in advance impractical. While I try my best to research campgrounds and plan my days accordingly, sometimes it just isn't practical.

[@exploringquests]

Love it!

[@turnbullstravels735]

Agreed! I have car-camped and backpacked (with the boy scouts). Now full time in a Class A - with that flat screen television we never turn on - and this winter, I might be car WINTER camping occasionally in Yosemite! (Husband plans to stay back in the RV, lol.)

[@RKONeilJr]

Very well said!

[@jimallen8238]

Whatever the definition is, it should not include mass littering and reckless use of public lands. There’s been an increase in trail erosion, off-trail damage to trees and shrubs, graffiti on rocks and in caves, noise pollution, etc. Getting outside is our public right, but some abuse it to the point that regulation is coming to dampen our enthusiasm.

[@felicianomiko5659]

I agree. We’ve been full time in our skoolie for over 4 years now and while I don’t always see what we do as camping, I’m not putting that on anyone else. Tons of people come out on the weekend or for a few weeks and get to see something they didn’t see before. It is what you make it and it’s living outside a sticks’n’bricks home or hotel. That’s camping IMHO.

[@pammortensen8225]

Great content!!❤

[@Klohma]

After 30 years in the Army and a family that had a cattle ranch, I earned my shell with bed, kitchen, and flat screen TV!

[@Tuttle723]

When we pull our rig into the mountains and park in the middle of a meadow, we're camping!

[@human_first]

I live in a Manhattan penthouse and identify as a camper. What about that? 😎

[@allenshaw1305]

In my opinion, camp your own camp, hike your own hike. I'll camp my way, you camp yours. I'll tent camp untill I cant set up a tent. I don't hate on RVers, but I know what it's like to be discriminated against because I'm a tent camper. Have fun and see ya at a brown sign.

[@ieronmandan5]

As long as you are doing stuff out side and actually doing stuff out doors I would call that camping, but yah it can get to fancy

[@richardduhaime8071]

That was fun. Thanks from the smoresmobile

[@dinospumoni8860]

Anything beyond tent camping is glamping. And trust me I love glamping way more than camping lol.

[@nofear2trek]

What is the ‘camping legal definition’ used by LE on public lands? Occupiers of a parked vehicle are also considered camping?

[@mrdonigan]

My mom said staying at the Holiday Inn in Kansas City was "camping." I'm ok excluding that from the definition.

[@jdright1157]

And don't forget Hammock camping, which I have done wild camping and being woke at 5am by a disgruntled buck snorting at me !!😂 Personally, I have grown up camping. From canvas wall tent with no floor and army cots when my parents took us camping. From your common tent to pop-up trailers to class C to towable RV. NOTICE I used the term camping in each instance. And they do fit under one umbrella. Those that cry foul the loudest sound to simply be envious. Just go, relax, unwind recharge, and enjoy the outdoors. And HEY, respect the environment!!!

[@peachblossombotanicals2248]

Amen!

[@TheMarmaduke1975]

I hate camping personally, my trailer with all that it has makes it tolerable. Its nice for touring with a dog and a wife that needs constant comfort stops.

[@palazzolot]

I really don’t think that the accommodations we “camp” in is the issue of what camping really is. I believe it’s the “behaviors” that have become the true issues.

[@GaryL3803]

Had a Class C RV for about a year. It was less fun than living in a trailer park.

[@joanhall3718]

Are there actually tent camping areas in Washington DC?

[@Dodsquatch]

I was talking to a coworker a few weeks ago and mentioned I would be off that next Friday as I had a camping trip planned. He asked where I was going and I told him I was taking my TT to a state park. He responded “That’s not real camping. When I was younger, we would take a blanket and sleep under the stars.” I told him that sounded hardcore and asked if he still camped like that. His response: “No, I don’t like camping!” 😂😂😂

[@davidmahoney7960]

Just because my camping has evolved doesn’t mean I not camping because I’m not in a tent.

[@CRAM.Lajoie]

Sorry, but I'm an RV'er pulling my trailer with a half ton. Although I say I'm camping, I feel I'm just helping to increase the amount of traffic in the forest we have left. Proof? WELL, I would not camp almost every other weekend with my family, if we did NOT have a trailer. The fact that camping used to be a bit unpleasant: no sleep, no showers, tons of bugs, ect... is what kept me from going all the time (and I'm sure other RV'ers like me), and by the same token, kept our parks pristine. All this to say, I don't feel "equivalent" to camping like I used to as a kid. So Cheers to them. And for us RV'ers, let's all please leave with our sites cleaner than when we got there! 😁

[@yetanotheropinion.843]

Either way why do you need approval of others ?

[@Rvfootprints]

I may not agree with your politics, but on this we agree.

[@ranig2848]

IMHO, the only place that should NOT be included in camping is where people use their RVs in "parking lots", ie, a "campground" that has nothing to do with nature. A concrete or pavemenet parking lot, with no cover... like many/some KoAs or some "RV Resorts". If you're out in nature, you're camping. That's all that counts. Doesn't matter if your sleeping on the ground, roof tent or Class A $3,000,000 motorhome. If you're in nature, you're camping.

[@geriatrictrippin]

Great topic and video ❤ BTW, your RV extended warranty has expired 😅😅

[@bigoldal2436]

" WHATEVER" Wouldn't be great if everyone would get over themselves. What ever happened to the freedom to have a opinion and not criticize someone else.😊

[@rmccabe117]

Well said, camper!

[@s.porter8646]

We camp with an electric car and a MYPOD teardrop...we get both, that's not camping...or, wow thats minimal ..

[@RVMiles]

Kind of like how people think full-time RVers are super rich or completely broke.

[@s.porter8646]

@@RVMiles or a millennial that is doing vids has rich parents

[@RVMiles]

@@s.porter8646 tell me about it! I’m technically a millennial (depending on if you consider 1979 the end of Gen X or 1980) and I’m 43 years old!

[@s.porter8646]

@@RVMiles meh, you're an X'er

[@RVMiles]

@@s.porter8646 if so, only by a month!

[@lrobie123]

a flat screen is posh if camping for real

[@dme2453]

Tell me you’re broke without telling me you’re broke. I have no interests in pretending I’m homeless on the weekend.

[@jonathanrickard237]

I think your definition is too broad, as it would seem to include staying in a hotel, which I would not consider to be camping. I think of camping as involving nature and being a temporary location. I don't think parking overnight in a Walmart is camping, while going out into nature is camping, whether in a tent or a million-dollar RV. I feel like someone who lives in a trailer park is not camping, but staying in a cabin may at times be camping. The definition isn't black and white, and we need a common reference for meaning, but also those who hound on specific definitions should leave room for others to have a nuanced view. As long as we agree in general terms that should be enough.

[@unclemartin6368]

Agreed. I’ve backpacked, kayak camped, boat camped, tent camped, and now as I’ve gotten older I invested in a teardrop trailer. It’s all been great and so have the people. REAL camping is what you make it. Thanks for saying what needed to be said; well done!

[@artofcampingnow]

I too have explored many types of camping. We now RV after having mainly car camped the last 20 years. I consider all of it camping. Whether I am traveling on foot with a backpack and tent, canoe, car, or RV. It’s all great to explore and be outside together.

[@meanbean859]

Best comment ever!

[@joyfulhomemaker8053]

Tear drops and pop ups are basically just tents. Typically you still cook outside, it’s camping! We have a 5th wheel (NOT camping) and we have an Aliner pop up for camping. We just needed a bed. I don’t want to sleep on the ground anymore. And I love the outdoor kitchen drawer so everything is easy to set up and break down

[@kr639]

@@artofcampingnow as a FT rver when I’m sleeping in a comfy queen bed with heat, refrigerator, bathroom I just don’t feel like I’m camping. Am I in some of the same places and out boondocking in the middle of nowhere? Yes! ….. but personally I just can’t put it in the “camping” category. But to each their own

[@posteroonie]

I disagree. IMO the only camping is when you carry your shelter, bedding, and cooking gear in on your back. I travel in a minivan and sleep on public land, sometimes in quite remote places, but I don't call it camping. I call it a road trip or van life. Props to real campers.

[@leosmith9301]

I'm a former tent camper, 5 x veteran of Burning Man, former owner of a VW Westfailia Camper, and a former owner of a pop-up tent trailer. I call my current outdoor experience with a well-equipped travel trailer (heat, hot water, AC, full-bath, comfortable bed) as "GLAMPING". At 72 years old, I make no apologies about having comfort while enjoying national and state parks.

[@kr639]

Def no need to ever apologize. It’s just not camping. It’s rv ing …. Let’s just call it that

[@sued115]

Thank you very much for your service!

[@Luv2camp316]

To anyone who doesn’t like the way I camp, thank you for your input. However, I still plan to do exactly what I’m doing and you’re welcome to do what you’re doing. It doesn’t take long to find someone’s definition of camping contradicts mine and vice versa. But in our minds were all camping. And when I run into like-minded people, it’s amazing the relationships that we develop and how quickly they come about. I’ve met some of the people who camp exactly the same way I do. Yes, I will enjoy my flatscreen TV, my Blackstone grill, my awning, my rocker chairs, and more. I like my definition of camping just fine.

[@brianwilkinson2120]

I grew up in CO and when I look back at my parent’s lives I find it fascinating that they went from tent camping with myself and my brothers, upgraded to a pickup with a shell along with the tent, upgraded to a pop up camper, then a hard shell camper, and finally when they retired to an airstream where they drove from coast to coast, Canada and Alaska! They saw so much of this beautiful country and we’re following in their footsteps!! They also took 3 big trips with 6 of their grandkids aging from 5-13 in their airstream!! Stories told at every family gathering thanks to my parents camping adventures!

[@joyfulhomemaker8053]

We often use our Aliner to camp all around CO. Absolutely love it. We are able to set up and breakdown quick so we can get to the next location

[@timclosson7166]

One of your best yet! Been camping for over 70 years, and due to old age, no longer tent camp but have an RV, and love it.

[@camustang1966]

You hit the nail on the head when you said “gatekeeping”. There are always people trying to gatekeep all sorts of activities or terms. In the RV Camping world, it’s “what is camping” but also “what is an RV” and more. I have little tolerance for these “gatekeepers” in any subject. Great video as always, thanks!

[@davidw2959]

I did my share of camping when I was in the Army, and I told myself when I got out that I would not sleep on the ground or in a sleeping bag or a tent again. So when I travel now I make my abode a 25 foot travel trailer. As far as I am concerned, I earned the right to "camp" however I wanted to.

[@ericwilkerson2598]

My wife and I say the same thing, for both of us. We "camp" in comfort now, thank you very much.

[@Tony-pq3xv]

I agree, after serving in the Army, I want some comfort! Lol

[@pl5861]

The more creature comforts you have, the less "camping" you are doing. And don't even get me started on pretentious Overland rigs and condo's on wheels.

[@tristramstout8988]

You’re going to try and get everybody on the internet to agree on something?? What kind of drugs are you taking?

[@timothylinn]

I travel in a nice truck camper and I probably make the “I’m not camping” argument once a week to the officer knocking on my door at 2am.

[@mdbeatt]

When I was growing up my family went from camping in a 16 ft old Fireball trailer to before I joined the Army my dad had a 28ft class A motorhome. Through out most of my adult life I camped and fished with my small boat and a tent. Now that I had to retire due to a failed back surgery, I found camping in a tent was just too hard on my body. So I now have a small Jayco travel trailer for my and the wife. My whole life I felt that no matter if I was tent camping or in a RV, It was all camping, to connect with nature. I do not Judge how anyone goes camping as we all do so to get away from our everyday life, and enjoy the outdoors.

[@MulligansBlog]

We Glamp. Sometime we sit by a fire (outside) and Camp… but then we go to bed in air conditioning! 😂

[@chrisschiel6741]

Well said. It's more what you do than what you do it in.

[@desertdog2282]

When I take the travel trailer out, I tell folks I am going RVing, whether I am plugged into power or not. When I throw a tent in the back of the jeep and head out, I say I went camping. I think folks should be specific, blanketing everything as camping is much too vague.

[@ronrothrock7116]

Sorry, Jason, but I disagree with you. Camping needs to be updated to a concept, not a singular verb. We need to use the categories intentionally. The reason is because it conveys meaning. If I tell you I like to camp you may think/assume I own an RV. If someone tells me they like to camp I would assume they own a tent. It is like saying, "I work" or "I like food". It is simply not descriptive enough. As I am sure you are aware, the Supreme Court today ruled on the Grants Pass public camping issue (I happen to live about 30 minutes from Grants Pass). How would you like any laws regarding camping use just the word "camping" if a legal definition? Using a predicate is simply practicing good communication with your audience.

[@judyclark8653]

Good point.

[@slamboy66]

If you want to see real wild life, stay in a MOTEL 6 by the airport. You'll be peeking thru the curtains like your looking out your tent at a bear in camp.

[@GoingNoWhereFast]

Good try, but if your not feeding the insects with your blood, it isn't camping!! lol

[@marthatroyer3021]

My parents bought a tent so we could "camp" as a family. It always rained!!! As soon as they could afford it, they bought a pop-up, which was an awesome upgrade. At least we were out of the puddles. They bought a 5th wheel to enjoy in retirement. They camped the way they could afford all through the years. We love our 25 ft motorhome, and I will NOT feel guilty about giving up sleeping in puddles. 😂

[@findfreeman]

You sir, are on point.

[@artofcampingnow]

Absolutely fantastic community building perspective. Thank you for sharing your view. Love the comparison of a tent camper at a park vs an RV in the wilderness. All of us camp. We also have different goals. Sometimes it’s about travel, exploration, or testing our limits. Sometimes it’s even just about being together. There’s so many types of camping to explore.

[@terrymoses7548]

On a more humorous note, I've heard people say, "I'm going to set up camp right here." As the unfold their camp chair and set down their cooler at an outdoor concert!

[@SelfEsteemArchitect]

Well said sir, well said; there are more common denominators within our community. I judge people however, by their treatment of nature - period.

[@bobanderson413]

I did a lot of backpacking when I was young. Got married and my wife wasn’t interested in backpacking. When our kids were old enough we camped in a family sized tent in campgrounds with bathhouses. When my son joined Boy Scouts, we went backpacking again. Now as empty nesters we bought a couples sized camper. The bed, a full size bathroom, and air conditioning feel good to older bones. And it still lets us enjoy the outdoors, campfires, and other people. So there. Enjoy camping however you can.

[@jenniferdurham2782]

When I was younger, I scoffed at RV's saying that was not camping. Now that I am old, I have widened my interpretation. But words have definitions. It's a temporary place to stay. Cabins and domes are not temporary. They are not camping. They are something else. Not bad, just different.

[@kr639]

Yea I’m a FT rver and it ain’t camping lol. Any chance I can leave the rv and tent camp in those harder to fit and get to places I will. That’s true camping imo

[@tracymeskel2839]

I switched my fishing partner to a hard sided rv. I had an OLD 1965 Side Kick camper. In Oregon, it rains on the coast, constantly (you know). In the summer, it’s seems, it only rains on Sundays ☔️🙏 we would go to the coast for three days, over the weekend, and fish. We would pack and leave on Sundays. For 12 years in a row, it rained o the day we broke camp. One year, we bought this old truck camper. Pump water, no bathroom, just a lug a loo. Well that Saturday night, we all went to bed. Of course it rains all night. I wake up, in T-shirt’s and shorts. Open the door of the camper, every one is huddled under a 10x10 awning, in full rain gear and dripping wet heads. I looked at them and said, “Oh! Did it rain last night?” The next year, everyone under that awning were in new campers or trailers. I laughed at them. They were finished with the rains on Sundays. After that, everyone bought new RVs, the rains quit on Sundays, and We started staying til Mondays. 30 years later, and we are all still in RVs.

[@Elizabeth-rq1vi]

I agree!

[@Tinstaafl01]

Since you've stopped "camping", I have to question how relevant your input is in this respect. At 74, I still enjoy getting out with a backpack and cooking over a campfire. No, taking a mini-house into the woods (which RV'rs rarely actually do) isn't camping.

[@RVMiles]

@@Tinstaafl01 does taking 5 people 10,000 miles through three countries over 7 months in a 25’ trailer staying on hookups 20% of the time meet your criteria?

[@Suncity4]

I don’t disagree with most of what you said. Yes, here comes the “but”. By your final definition someone staying in the park lodge or the Holiday Inn outside a park allowing closer outdoor access is camping. While backpacking in Isle Royal NP I met some folks that said they were there camping too… in the lodge. I like the large umbrella idea but there has to be a line somewhere.

[@__WJK__]

"Camping" while staying in the "Lodge" (lol) what passes for logic these days is a bit concerning.

[@overthehillandoverthemount2925]

Also, you should mention that roughing it is different than Camping. Comfort can be dangerous. I see all the time and I am so amazed of these big RVs that drive to beautiful locations and 95% of the time they just stay inside and never come out. 🤷‍♂️

[@mingopapogascon456]

Absolutely right... on point!

[@raymondclark1785]

My parents were Scout leaders before I was born and I grew up camping. My wife never had and the only way she was going was in something with a proper bathroom and inside kitchen so we ended up with a. Class C. But I've steered her away from commercial RV parking lots. We use HH , state parks, boondocking, and moochdocking about 5 months out of the year. She's been complaining about the RVs rough ride so I got and LR4 with air suspension and she loves it. Next I'll sell the RV and move her into a expedition trailer 😂 with a tent screen room

[@aor5148]

Modern people and definition camping is inaccurate. Camping is derived from the military term campaign soldiers of the 19th century actually called it campaigning. It wasn't till Robert Braden-Powell a British officer and Father to Boy Scouts started to use the military slang camping for recreational use. There was one other British born man ( I forget his name) who believe collaborate d with Powell and wrote the first camping hand book in 1908.

[@martyi398]

We’ve heard this (that’s not camping phrase) for the last 30 years since we bought our first self contained camper, we just kindly say we’re Glamping or RVing, we stayed at a private campground for a couple years that was called Condo Camping, lol

[@sleahy4082]

Agreed, 100% against gate-keeping the term "camping". I'm a former family RV camper as a kid, turned backpacker as a youth, turned car camper come kids, and now I'm past the time where I am able to sleep on the ground and do many of the physical things so I am turning RV'er with my now aging kids sleeping out in the tents when they want to. Which time was I camping? Am I no longer going to camp now that I am no longer physically able? pshhht.

[@pauldean3935]

I've been living full time in a 22' fiberglass 5th wheel for three years now. For the past three months, I've spent all but two nights between one and ten miles down chunky dirt roads, living on a gallon or so of water per day, getting water from streams for bucket baths when I can, and doing all the cooking I can with electricity from my solar system. Is it "camping"? One of those two nights that I was not in my camper down a dirt road, I hiked into a wilderness area with my tent, and another I spent at a full hookup campground. Did those both count as camping? I'm going to call all of these things camping, and if some sad internet troll needs to take a swing at me for it... that's his problem. We need to be HEARD in the interest of preserving wild places and access to public lands. Allying with ATVers, hunters, day-trippers, overlanders, backpackers, paddlers, and all types of campers gives us a better chance to do that.

[@LiterallyOverTheHillAdventures]

Camping ain't nothing but a word that has different meanings to different people. If you like it, do it how you like. I do what some call as overlanding, I am one who doesn't call it that. I just calling it vehicle based exploration....

[@sheepdog401]

I did "camping" (tenting) for years. Through the years I have moved up through a tent to a pop-up and now a 28' trailer with all the bells and whistles. I now refer to myself as a "glamper" and make no excuses about it. I am older and now when it rains or is cold or hot I can still enjoying being surrounded by nature. Tenters can turn up their noses at me while I watch my tv dry from the rain, enjoy my awning or turn the heat up or turn on the air-conditioning 😂