IS IT WORTH IT? Newest Stihl MS-660 Chainsaw Clone

Ride along as I take a trip to China Town and see what kind of trouble I can get into!
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[@jaydee2620]

I want one but I’m just not as mechanically savvy as you. If I was I would have some huge knockoff saws !! Who knows maybe I’ll try one.

[@IndianaDoug]

You’ll never be mechanically inclined if you don’t dive into it! There’s a whole community here willing to help with any issues you might have(because there’s always issues with a anything eventually). You got this👍🏻

[@jaydee2620]

Damn Doug u hope u read this. So I took ur advice and completely tore down my 390 XP to the bone. I figured out anybody can do it. And I will have more confidence in the future to tackle any chainsaw projects. Thank you so much.

[@powersawtomfoolery6739]

The black thing in the air cleaner cover is the summer/winter air diverter. It goes in the top for summer. In winter(bottom) it directs hot air from the cylinder into the air cleaner to prevent the carb from icing up. If you're planning on milling, you want clean cold air. I also pull the dogs off on my milling saws so I get more bar for milling. Sounds like it runs good. 👍

[@JKSawShop]

Well if it’s anything like me those screws were just screws that were left over. Anytime you have leftover screws it means you’ve done it better then it was designed.

[@IndianaDoug]

You know that’s right😎

[@ButlerOutdoorsCanada]

Right on man that's a pretty good cutter for an "off" brand!

[@IndianaDoug]

Not bad really, thanks Bushman🪓

[@brettblack7049]

Wait till you get that thing in some Chinese elm 🤣

[@IndianaDoug]

I’ll block Elm with a saw before I hand split it, that’s for damn sure 😆

[@brettblack7049]

@@IndianaDoug I do the same, but then I put it on the splitter, that stuff is nasty. I've found splitting t on the hydraulic splitter when it's frozen it does quite well. Have a great evening.

[@Aaron_A_Lynch]

I'd plug that decomp or get an oem ..those china decomps tend to fall apart and end up in your cylinder..don't ask me how I know🤙🏻

[@Brian2bears]

Aaron, Doug, I used an O.E.M. from a Husq. 395(decomp). A delete for an old weak man was not an option.

[@Aaron_A_Lynch]

@@Brian2bears Husqvarna decomps work just fine buddy

[@djbradles]

To note I’ve also experienced the “no pop” on full choke. It floods easy. On full choke I’ll do no more than 2 strokes and go right to half choke “1st position”. The instruction manual shows the L and H start positions of 1 1/4 turns to start. That how I’ve started all of 2 cycles over the years with a new carb or new engine.

[@kurtbenzon7260]

I got lucky and everything was dialed in right out of the box. Started in 4 or 5 pulls. Thanks for sharing.

[@KevinsDisobedience]

I truly don’t know how they do it. Sourcing the materials alone seem like it would be more than half the price. Also, your dry sense of humor is hilarious. “I hear these are pretty informative.” 🤣 At least you got the certificate!

[@IndianaDoug]

Thanks for viewing and commenting Kevin. I gotta tell ya this saw gives me the fever(pronounces “feva”) but I gotta say, it needs more cowbell🤷🏻‍♂️ if you know, you know😆

[@KillingerUSA]

Well well well..... that is pretty interesting. Cant wait to see how this turns out!

[@IndianaDoug]

You’ll be the first to know man😎

[@garrytalley8009]

You should do your own upgrades. You like taking things apart and putting them back together. That's all there is to upgrades. Except using a torque wrench when necessary. Now they sell the upgraded model that comes with the NGK spark plug and other important upgrades. I will be buying one of those in the near future. I have a large clean up job from a bad windstorm and need a mega-saw.

[@IndianaDoug]

Thanks Garry. Yes, I have every Neotec model. This was actually the very first one I purchased.

[@Justinbpierson]

I think you move that shutter to the other opening depending on summer / winter.

[@Aaron_A_Lynch]

Correct

[@IndianaDoug]

Ok that make sense. Thanks👍🏻

[@cajun3197]

We gonna give it da same extra boudin I give every saw that’s OEM and holds up to very much abuse! It will be a great test to this brands durability. I’m looking forward to finding out how their build quality is.

[@IndianaDoug]

Me to man. I’m just happy you let me talk you into it. If it ends up with half the sauce your other builds have, I’ll be a happy man👍🏻

[@cajun3197]

@@IndianaDoug It will be the best I can do that’s all I can promise sir 😁

[@Aaron_A_Lynch]

@@cajun3197 let her rip tater chip 🤙🏻

[@cajun3197]

@@Aaron_A_Lynch 🤙😎

[@andrewscott2866]

Well, that's definitely an affordable way to play with larger saws. Rarely do any used saws that size come up for sale locally.

[@IndianaDoug]

All jokes aside, it’s a pro model saw. All the features are that of a professional model where it counts. For $350 delivered, it’s pretty hard to beat for 92cc class saw. But you’d want to change out some things to oem if you used it a lot.

[@bryantitus6634]

That is one of the cleanest running clones I've seen without mods. Might be partly attributed to the 'west coast factory dual port muffler' it comes with. But it's a good runner for sure.

[@IndianaDoug]

I call it like it is, and it ran well. I put an NGK plug in and set the carb right. It’s starts right up, oils well, and cuts straight. Plenty of power out of the box for the price point.

[@Brian2bears]

Mr. Doug, excellent mechanical skills, it needed an INDIANA TUNE, good troubleshooting. The tank protector is a nice touch. So you're gonna put some parts/money in huh? Not bad, not bad. 💘 the humor!!!+1 on the 32:1 while milling.

[@IndianaDoug]

Thanks Brian. I think it’ll be a good milling candidate. The felling spikes and full wrap handle will likely go.

[@sundial6919]

How long this been available , i saw advers for the i think 038 an 105 an was impressed w their said construction and walbro carbs , i would have chosen this over the g660 i bought

[@IndianaDoug]

First I’ve seen this model was a couple of weeks ago. Ya if it’s a choice between this and the G660, this one has a cooler look I think, and a few more features too.

[@Users_world]

PRETTY IMPRESSIVE! not bad at all for the price point

[@tomjones4318]

That's one nice box. Gotta have more box. Box box box! *BOX!*

[@mm88swrt]

The cover on the filter cover is for cold or warm weather. Up top for hot and on the bottom for cold I believe. Keeps fuel from freezing up when really cold

[@IndianaDoug]

You are correct, thank you. I’m obviously not a huge Stihl guy, but I do like how they’re made, especially how the carb bolts directly to the intake without a boot.

[@mm88swrt]

@@IndianaDoug I just got one of the ms660 farmtec build kits. Put a 36" skip tooth on it. First time in wood was a couple hours ago and I am impressed. How long it'll last? I'm not sure but fit and everything was good. Didn't have any of the issues that the 4yr old youtube videos said. Only part that wasn't in the kit I put on was a high flow oil pump. It fired up on the 6th pull if I remember right. I also downloaded and printed out all the oem manuals.

[@IndianaDoug]

@@mm88swrt kick butt👍🏻 I was surprised by the power to be honest. The only issue I’ve heard of lately is on a brand new machine, fuel leaks a bit from the line connection at the carb, until the line swells a bit when running. I’m not so sure that’s the issue or not but mine did this the first time I fired it up, you may catch it in my video. One person said it looked like oil, but it was fuel. After I ran it for a bit I never had the issue afterwards. I have a couple guys testing these saws and reporting any issues back to me, so far I’m beyond surprised at how well they are working. Let me know how things go with yours👍🏻

[@ShawnCFarm]

Im sitting on the fence on what one to buy. should I get the NS 892 or the NS 872I ? both can be bought with a 25 inch bar. I have a 2 or 3 really big trees to cut so do I really need a 892 then have to buy a 36 inch bar for a few trees. I run an old o34 stihl and a MS 390. cut about 8 cord a year for the last 40 years

[@IndianaDoug]

Significant weight difference. The 872 will get it done, just slower.

[@SkogKniv]

Nice to see more saw options. Nice video!

[@IndianaDoug]

Hey! Thanks for stopping by👍🏻 Might be some big things coming with this brand. They reached out to me on a few things. I’ll let y’all know.

[@djbradles]

I have 3 of these now and they are vastly different especially with the BV models. Seems like they changed alot. Funny thing about the claims of using a decomp plug is those that never ran it think it’s a good option. Lol. This saw has alot of compression and a oem Husky decomp is necessary for starting. You can do the plug but you won’t get a full pull without alot of your arm.

[@AxeInTheKerf]

Nunchuck skills, butterfly skills....PPE, a tool kit, combi-can+ BIG CC/HORSEPOWER...Excellent humor, excellent vid. Is the carb running over? Great job man...

[@IndianaDoug]

Had the High side up and still couldn’t blow it up🤷🏻‍♂️ I’ve since fattened everything up👍🏻

[@tyedwinnell950]

the hole break in with more oil thing is kinda like the long bar argument people say right size for the job but same person will complain about ah sore back if you like burning tank after tank of rich fuel it will take longer for the engine to break in and my thoughts are run the Jets rich and engine 2 strokes with last if there gonna they could break down at any old time they please weather 25:1 or50:1 don't change anything that's why saw people like to have at least ah back up saw just my opinion

[@IndianaDoug]

I 100% agree, we’ll said👍🏻

[@jaythe306snowmexican]

Alot of extra features on there that stihl makes you pay extra for.

[@IndianaDoug]

This is true, never really thought about that. Thx Jay👍🏻

[@livingthedreamwiththelucas90]

I got the Holzfforma 660 a few months ago, and I tell you what, it's a badass saw. It's all Stihl parts and if you want or need any extra parts, it's pennies on the dollar compared to to buying original stihl products. I had added a couple tweaks of my own to it. But you can actually afford it with this company. Great product at a great price. And I'm definitely buying more from Holzfforma. You do the math, $338.00 for a ms660 with everything, including a 36 inch bar and chain plus 2 extra chains.or a Stihl ms660 for $1,999.99 plus tax and that's stock ms660. Not including the bar and chain.

[@franciscahazlet4021]

Very nice piece of equipment. Also the intro and exit music went with the machine great nice work. I can't wait to see it in action.

[@garrytalley8009]

That music doesn't do a thing for this video. It's load and obnoxious.

[@powersawtomfoolery6739]

I've had to grease between the air horn and carb on my Farmertec saws to keep fines from migrating inside the air filter.

[@IndianaDoug]

Good tip

[@WSTMike]

You may have to put a leash on that thing when you get it back from Cajun Worksaws 🤣 I'll be curious to see the evolution of this saw. My only downplay on them is exactly what you called out, nothing is quick about working on them. Clunky and heavy. Change my mind, Doug.... I dare you 😏 Good vid! WST

[@IndianaDoug]

Thank you sir. It is heavy that’s for sure! The OEM MS-660 has come a long way in ergonomics and quality in my opinion.

[@jasontucker5727]

As you where pulling it it was leaking fuel

[@IndianaDoug]

Yes you’re correct. I found out later this is an issue with out of the box models. As it runs the fuel line swells a bit and there’s never an issue. I don’t like it, but I’m not paying OEM money I suppose. Never leaked once after this video.

[@aldredske6197]

Hi Doug!!😀😀 Looks like a pretty nice clone!! Seems to run good. I like the skid plate on it. It will be interesting to see how it runs after its ported. Take care my friend!!😀😀 Logger Al

[@IndianaDoug]

Cajun Worksaws is gonna give it the Garlic. Can’t wait💪🏼 thx Al!

[@3vil3lvis]

@24:10 you said "the low jet was turned out 2 turns and the high jet was turned out 2 1/2 turns" are the original settings that didn't work? How many turns for each jet to make it function?

[@IndianaDoug]

From the factory, the jets were turned out too much. I set both jets out ONE turn from seated position and it ran perfect. Also the idle was not even touching the throttle arm. I start it by turning in ONE full turn from touching the throttle arm. I have a video in the NEOTEC playlist and I’m in the process of making more.

[@3vil3lvis]

@@IndianaDoug Thank you for a quick and concise answer. You sir have earned a sub!

[@IndianaDoug]

@@3vil3lvis you’re welcome! Let me know if you have any issues👍🏻

[@KainKustomGarage]

Sounds pretty good to me! Time will tell!

[@IndianaDoug]

Pretty good for Chinesium.

[@KainKustomGarage]

@@IndianaDoug 🤣🤣

[@chevy7134]

Change out the carb with a WJ-76,NGK Plug,Stihl high output oiler, clutch,Fuel filter,worm gear & put put that decomp plug in & your all set..😎

[@IndianaDoug]

I haven’t found the WJ-76 to add anything. I’ve only had one bad carb out of the 8 I’ve had so far. No oiling issues, fuel filters are trash but so are the lines, I’ve replace two of those so far. Clutches are holding up, but ya they’re are suspect for sure. In the process of doing high performance mods/porting to all these models as well. Should be fun👍🏻

[@hatchet646]

If you can't pull out a milling table from that box you know you have been ripped off.

[@IndianaDoug]

Can you elaborate? Are you saying because they advertise it as a Milling Saw?

[@hatchet646]

@@IndianaDoug no it was a joke from your last unboxing video where you pulled off a bunch of things from a tiny box. lol

[@IndianaDoug]

@@hatchet646 haaaaa, oh gotcha. Ok now I have an video idea🤣

[@Brian2bears]

@@hatchet646 Mr. Hatchet, I got it from the get-go....

[@backwoodscountry6040]

Dude I watched your video and ended up buying one of them LOL I have a STIHL 500I but wanted a better saw. I hope you make more videos of this that thing

[@IndianaDoug]

Thanks for letting me know! If things go right I’ll be making detailed (and more professional) videos of the entire line. The company actually reached out to me on this. Let me know how it works out!

[@backwoodscountry6040]

@@IndianaDoug I use that chainsaw today I cut up a whole ash tree. It's pretty impressive. I'll be downloading a video I love it to KZbin. I'm assuming from your name you live in Indiana. I am a fellow Hoosier myself.

[@IndianaDoug]

@@backwoodscountry6040 good to hear👍🏻 yes I’m east/central on the Ohio border.

[@ScrewdriverTUNING]

Doug sorry I haven’t been by sooner. Hope all is well. Great review. What are your overall opinions after cutting. ???? Hope your weekend is great. Kindness and love one person at a time ❤️‍🔥🦾☀️🎯

[@IndianaDoug]

Love this saw, get one man they’re great!!!

[@DaveyBlue32]

😂😂😂😂. They threw ya curveball out the box with those crazy carb adjustments!!! 🤪😂😂😂. I’d love to run one of those against my g660… I toss the meteor topend kits on them right out of the box for the ability to run them commercially for a couple years off the get go…. She sounds pretty good man!!!! I love playing with these Chinese saw’s!!!!

[@IndianaDoug]

These saws are strong out of the box, it surprised me. I’m getting to make a review on their Stihl 038 mag 72cc clone.

[@DaveyBlue32]

@@IndianaDoug cool! Did they like your video and reach out to you? That 038 mag… 52mm? Over 34mm should be a good useful saw! Heck… I’ve used the 036 with a 20” bar and I have that 038Super 50mm and I run a 24” full house on it… zips along! Hell u could probably do a 28” with skipper tooth if ya needed to… had a couple big ones and that was your biggest saw …or you had just got a homestead and had a few bigger trees to handle… I bought a ms391 from my neighbor who wanted to start a firewood business and he really wanted a 362… a year later he was mad at himself so I bought the 391 to help him get his 362… I ported and muffler mod’ed it and it’ll pull a 32” with skipper no problem… you wouldn’t want to do it every day.., but I did a dozen big rounds… then ripped them into quarters… no problem… a homestead guy with a few bigger trees would be fine with something like that…👍. I’m over from the Hopper live feed the other day… 👍😁

[@IndianaDoug]

I’ll update you when I make the video. All Good saws so far

[@poparamiro]

Nice video, runs good.... 🤝🤝🤝

[@IndianaDoug]

Thanks pop, we will see how it is a few months from now after it gets beat up a little🤣

[@brianaguedan7475]

Nice knife! Thanks for the content

[@IndianaDoug]

She’s a beauty😆 thanks for watching/commenting Brian👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

[@PetersonFarmsofNashvillePFON]

Never heard of Neotech Have a couple of Stihls and just getting into some more serious chainsawing last couple of years since we move down to Nashville Indiana Thanks for sharing Phil PFON

[@IndianaDoug]

My pleasure. One good things about these clones are on many older oem saws, it’s hard to find replacement parts. These saws are EXACT replicas of the oem, every part! And this company sell the parts too. Pretty good deal if your trying to bring one back to life👍🏻

[@Rob-tl9md]

why wouldn't you run as is till you need a cylinder and piston?

[@IndianaDoug]

Good question I’m glad you asked. My thought was to build a more reliable machine, after taking this one apart and inspecting the parts, there’s really no need, they’re built these very well!

[@bryandant85]

Love the shirt brother.

[@IndianaDoug]

Thanks, love me some Buckin👍🏻

[@sonofthunder.]

coolio i been lookin at em,im a 034 fan,

[@IndianaDoug]

They have an 038 version model NS872, I’ll review one at some point.

[@traceanderson4010]

Did anyone notice the fule leaking out

[@IndianaDoug]

yes! I didn’t notice until after watching the video. It was leaking from the carb, the fuel line was not seated all the way.

[@eagleeye1542]

I'd rather have my 660 Magnum but somebody decided that they needed it more than I did! 🤬😡

[@eagleeye1542]

I clicked your link, 355$ isn't bad for 92cc. Do you think it can pull a 4 foot bar ?

[@IndianaDoug]

@@eagleeye1542 I think it can pull a 3 foot bar.

[@nbookie]

Out of stock everywhere.

[@IndianaDoug]

I may have one or two. Reach out to me on Instagram. Link in the About section

[@chevy7134]

Guys if you don't like yours I'll be happy to take it off your hands immediately! 🙃

[@IndianaDoug]

You need one?

[@chevy7134]

I wouldn't mind trying one out..

[@IndianaDoug]

@@chevy7134 I wish it worked like that.

[@Roadkill3120]

A whole lot of blabla

[@IndianaDoug]

That’s the kinda guy I am💪🏼