Is It Worth It To Buy A Box Of Commander Masters? A Magic: The Gathering Premium Product Review

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Tolarian Community College

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@TolarianCommunityCollege
@TolarianCommunityCollege Жыл бұрын
In just two days I am giving away 50 Collector Booster Boxes of Commander Masters! Sign up using my link and get a $15.00 credit to use on whatever you want: www.whatnot.com/invite/tolariancollege Sponsored by WhatNot!
@RiskyComment
@RiskyComment Жыл бұрын
Are you sure about a Friday stream again? Last time we destroyed the entire WhatNot platform....
@dcrow9650
@dcrow9650 Жыл бұрын
I had one question, Professor. Is this give away for any country or just the United States?
@andresicuro
@andresicuro Жыл бұрын
@@dcrow9650 On the start of the cideo he said he will ship anywhere in the world he is allowed to do so
@Next-Up-Gaming
@Next-Up-Gaming Жыл бұрын
Is the giveaway US only?
@MSUHitman
@MSUHitman Жыл бұрын
Has What Not updated their infrastructure so your stream doesn’t break their site again? Lol.
@TheMainManQ
@TheMainManQ Жыл бұрын
Ngl I thought this was gonna be a 5 second video where the prof just says no and ends the video 🤣
@pug8714
@pug8714 Жыл бұрын
Dang it, I click and was gonna comment something similar
@starchaser6024
@starchaser6024 Жыл бұрын
If video length wasn’t a big factor in how much money he makes it probably would have been
@dcrow9650
@dcrow9650 Жыл бұрын
I was hoping that. I really love when he pulled that one
@mattpotts995
@mattpotts995 Жыл бұрын
I thought this too lol
@sashaanne703
@sashaanne703 Жыл бұрын
He likes talking too much to do that 😜.
@maximuslordofdarknes
@maximuslordofdarknes Жыл бұрын
We're reaching the point where magic products are unironically becoming more expensive than Warhammer 40k ones... what a time to be alive
@pascalsimioli6777
@pascalsimioli6777 Жыл бұрын
I've just zenithal primed my Space Marines from the Leviathan box. Best 150 euros ever spent, it's already been hours of fun assembling and priming and I've yet to paint and play. Safe to say I got my money worth.
@francisserpa4465
@francisserpa4465 Жыл бұрын
It's nice to know that you'll be getting what you're going to enjoy. For about the same price as Leviathan you can get 4 collector boosters and then who knows if there will be anything you actually want. With 4 packs the odds seem pretty low.
@beliffywu5804
@beliffywu5804 Жыл бұрын
seriously who plays warhammer? bunch of lame people I guess....
@pascalsimioli6777
@pascalsimioli6777 Жыл бұрын
​@@beliffywu5804Not that I care much about my own "lameness" but what kind of hypocrisy do you need to embody to say this in a comment section about trading card game addicts?
@sosukelele
@sosukelele Жыл бұрын
​@@francisserpa4465did a double take when I realized you wrote boosters, not bundles. It's easy to get price blind when looking at hobbies, but jez
@pytawidmo
@pytawidmo Жыл бұрын
Remember - this is not a premium product. Just the price is.
@beliffywu5804
@beliffywu5804 Жыл бұрын
no... it is still a premium product...lol
@nickchaput219
@nickchaput219 Жыл бұрын
​@@beliffywu5804no wizards of the coast said it wasn't. That they never said it was.
@killeroid356
@killeroid356 Жыл бұрын
@@beliffywu5804 it really isnt
@cross1115
@cross1115 Жыл бұрын
​@beliffywu5804 no, it is not. can you show me where wotc said it was premium? (you should understand these are jokes mocking a wotc employees comments not serious)
@feist__
@feist__ Жыл бұрын
@@beliffywu5804 It is not.
@marcushart4445
@marcushart4445 Жыл бұрын
In Canada set boxes are 600$ Sorry fuck no, I’m buying a PS5
@marcoottina654
@marcoottina654 Жыл бұрын
cards last almost indefinitely, a PS5 around 10 years of substantial use, but the latter is still a better investment.
@Earthboundmike
@Earthboundmike Жыл бұрын
I mean you can say that but unless you've a library of ps4 games you'll still be paying more money for games
@modtyrant1784
@modtyrant1784 Жыл бұрын
@@marcoottina654 What are you talking about? I still play PS2 games. Investing isn't a requirement for some people, just having fun and being entertained can be more valuable. Especially if investing is redundant and they have career paths.
@beliffywu5804
@beliffywu5804 Жыл бұрын
@@modtyrant1784 stop crying
@m1gr3nA
@m1gr3nA Жыл бұрын
thats CAD or USD? there is quite significant difference.
@slobertsmalls
@slobertsmalls Жыл бұрын
C+ is a generous grade. I was hoping to split a box 4 ways with my friends and play sealed, but even with sharing the cost the price is ridiculous. Going to pass on that. Thanks for keeping us informed, Professor!
@shiragi8426
@shiragi8426 Жыл бұрын
Same same. I was excited to draft this with my friends, but it's just too much for "casuals" like us...
@TheIrishJackel
@TheIrishJackel Жыл бұрын
We decided it would be more interesting to do "sealed commander" (something LRR did recently): 14 packs per person (from a variety of sets), decks are the full 100 cards instead of 60, and trades are allowed.
@CascadianCrow
@CascadianCrow Жыл бұрын
Same lmao, like hell I’ll ever buy them this expensive, buy singles
@Hakaze
@Hakaze Жыл бұрын
Same, but I don't have enough friends that would want to pay that
@thedoctorbob7
@thedoctorbob7 Жыл бұрын
Print pictures of the cards and sleeve them up in front of lands, then draft that as a cube. All the fun for a fraction of the price!
@pseudoku1
@pseudoku1 Жыл бұрын
Wizards: continues to raise prices, scaring off new players. Professor: continues to put out incredible content, welcoming new players. ❤
@beliffywu5804
@beliffywu5804 Жыл бұрын
and buying tons of the stuff himself... so lecturing on one thing while doing another is... meh
@Senny_V
@Senny_V Жыл бұрын
@@beliffywu5804 The difference is that the entire audience are not content creators. And he himself is one person, not a group of millions. And if you are talking about all the boxes he is giving away - he doesn't buy them, they're sponsored by Whatnot, same with the LOTR ones.
@Typher_
@Typher_ Жыл бұрын
@@beliffywu5804 a sponsor bought those, looks like he only got draft boosters
@altromonte15
@altromonte15 Жыл бұрын
WDYM scaring new players? the game keeps growing and makes more and more money with more and more players every year. The LOTR set is one of the best selling of all times despite being more expensive than a standard set.
@presidentfrog4683
@presidentfrog4683 Жыл бұрын
Seriously, without the community the game wouldn't exist. WoTC thanks us with $1000 proxy packs and $300-400 reprint sets that collapse in value if someone so much as glances in their general direction. Prof gave it a C, I'll give a it a D for dumpster fire. Fuck WoTC.
@ericaschner3283
@ericaschner3283 Жыл бұрын
We've gone from Trading Card Game to Collectable Card Game. Used to be so fun to all crack packs and trade and shuffle cards around to make decks, but now the only reason to buy packs is to hopefully get an "investment piece". All of the social side parts of the game have been ripped out.
@underscore_5450
@underscore_5450 Жыл бұрын
It's so crazy to me that the most popular format in MTG right now is incredibly social and casually friendly but Wotc somehow hasn't capitalized on that at all. Why aren't there official commander tournaments? Precon 4 packs so groups have an easy point of entry? Hell, commander isn't even on ARENA! Commander is a very social format and Wotc doesn't seem to get that at all. It feels like they're actively trying to discourage people from playing with high prices, avalanches of products, an under supported competitive scene, and confusing product design.
@edge929
@edge929 Жыл бұрын
These prices are bonkers. Time to hit up MPC proxies.
@ChrisPhelior
@ChrisPhelior Жыл бұрын
Really happy with the ones I got, thanks WotC for telling us proxies are totally ok for you.
@ChippNDipp
@ChippNDipp Жыл бұрын
The professor's chaotic sponsor bits are top tier. Keep renewing that contract WhatNot.
@BooAxe
@BooAxe Жыл бұрын
On announcement I was very excited. Then after a few spoilers I was less so but it looked cool. Then the whole set was spoiled and I thought to myself, "That's it? Where are the really exciting reprints?" Now I'll maybe buy some singles after Eldraine is already out
@Couldnt_Be_Bothered
@Couldnt_Be_Bothered Жыл бұрын
For future reference stuff like the mystical archive is called a bonus sheet. This includes mystical archive, retro artifacts, and multiverse legends.
@nanoglitch6693
@nanoglitch6693 Жыл бұрын
I like getting bonus sheet. 🙂
@Couldnt_Be_Bothered
@Couldnt_Be_Bothered Жыл бұрын
@@nanoglitch6693 me too :D
@chiblast100x
@chiblast100x Жыл бұрын
@@nanoglitch6693 That's probably a good thing. I fully expect that we'll keep seeing them for a long while, since they probably serve a few long term WotC goals such as the entry cost sustainability of eternal formats, more variety for Limited, and bringing older cards into Arena in manageable batches rather than with full Arena exclusive sets.
@Kantharr
@Kantharr Жыл бұрын
I'm glad I preordered the Eldrazi Unbound commander deck when they first announced it back in February for $68. That is still an expensive price but it's better than what I'm seeing now.
@osvaldoramirez805
@osvaldoramirez805 Жыл бұрын
Same here
@Someguyy867
@Someguyy867 Жыл бұрын
Same but with 2 Doctor Who decks for $50 since they are going up.
@alexdoran527
@alexdoran527 Жыл бұрын
Prices have already plummeted between when this video was recorded and now. I picked up my copy of Exsanguinate, the only other card I was after in this set apart from Demonic Tutor for my mono-black Vampires deck, for 40p/50c. That's absolutely crazy considering last week it was about £3-£4!
@Colossus1921
@Colossus1921 Жыл бұрын
I was 100% planning to buy a box before I saw the price. I want a good number of the cards in it, but when I can get an Ulamog for the same price as a booster pack, there's no real point in buying the booster pack I was hoping to pull the Ulamog from, is there? I love opening packs. It's so much more fun to finally find the rare or mythic you've been looking for in a pack, as opposed to just buying it. But when the packs are so expensive and there's so much chaff diluting the pool of rares and mythics, it just makes it nigh-impossible to justify buying a pack, much less a box. For now, I'm going to keep my eye on prices for half a dozen singles and see what happens.
@SamwaisGanza
@SamwaisGanza Жыл бұрын
Same here. Horrible and incomprehensive pricing on this.
@amicob
@amicob Жыл бұрын
FYI Jace, Mirror Mage doesn't come in the booster packs, he's in the precon only
@amicob
@amicob Жыл бұрын
Also, unless I missed it, there's no mention in the conversation about how many R/M are worth the price of the pack, is that you get 2-3 rares per pack, which changes the math on that worth considerably. (Up to 5 R/M in set too, though of course those cost more).
@colecarignan7032
@colecarignan7032 Жыл бұрын
Was just about to comment this exact thing
@dunsinane88
@dunsinane88 Жыл бұрын
I think he can be found in the packs in the commander slot of the pack that contains cards specific to the precon decks, so you could see him.
@davidlindsay5837
@davidlindsay5837 Жыл бұрын
Precon slot is usually only in collector boosters right?
@JoeGrzzly
@JoeGrzzly Жыл бұрын
Once again we see the flaw of the varied packs system: not being able to keep straight what is in them.
@spectral635
@spectral635 Жыл бұрын
I jumped on this video faster than mono red jumps at the chance to play blood moon. Thanks for the content Prof!
@christopherreid4782
@christopherreid4782 Жыл бұрын
There should totally be a blood moon 4 every color that be cool
@janoprivracki1992
@janoprivracki1992 Жыл бұрын
​@@christopherreid4782I think it's nicer if it's unique
@spectral635
@spectral635 Жыл бұрын
@@christopherreid4782 That'd be incredibly nice, rewarding mono colored decks in a multi colored format
@hegel9590
@hegel9590 Жыл бұрын
Do you ever do a "Is it Worth it?" revisited, where you discuss if it's worth it three months in or whatever? Or like, a three-month after booster-box game?
@JackTheEternal
@JackTheEternal Жыл бұрын
I love the bit where you grabbed all the collectors
@encampedsoldier
@encampedsoldier Жыл бұрын
Thank you Professor, for spreading REASON rather than hype. It's why I come here, for you honest opinions from a man like me who obviously loves this game. Great advice, I am passing on most commander master's products as I agree the pricing has gotten out of hand. I will wait on most of this and pick up some of the singles!
@ImARichard
@ImARichard Жыл бұрын
I appreciate you so much for the in depth analysis. I already wasn’t planning to buy any packs from commander masters, but now I’ve got the data to point to that justifies it further. See you on whatnot!
@kylescott2290
@kylescott2290 Жыл бұрын
St Cloud, MN is Set Box $449.99 pre-release ($469.99 on release), Collector box $259.99 pre-release ($279.99 on release). I do not think it is worth that, I'll wait two weeks and buy the singles I need.
@xmenwolverineX
@xmenwolverineX Жыл бұрын
cant say how many sets youve talked me out of buying into. I was looking forward to this set too as I thought it might have the same turn around as doublemasters 2022 which I was able to do the booster box game 3 times, get the cards I wanted and sell the rest for a near break even by the end.
@Justadadonthetok
@Justadadonthetok Жыл бұрын
Wouldn't it have been the same result and less headache to just buy the singles you actually wanted vs playing the booster box game. Not a knock at you, but generally. Your comment caught my attention. Edit- I understand you said you broke even doing it this way but you got lucky. It's always a gamble on what you get.
@xmenwolverineX
@xmenwolverineX Жыл бұрын
@@Justadadonthetok it was fun I never do this but the Prof. had a good turnaround over and over so I took a shot and it paid off I pulled boarderless foil manavault which was going for 180 , wrenn and six, 2 eldrazi gods twice and many more I kept loads of them and what I sold let me break even. I also added several to my collection like smothering tithe. It was a good experience. keep in mind I only spent the $350 once.
@Justadadonthetok
@Justadadonthetok Жыл бұрын
@@xmenwolverineX fair and what a haul.
@BookOfVampires
@BookOfVampires Жыл бұрын
There are OBVIOUS things missing. Commander plate, mana vault, mana crypt, etc.
@beliffywu5804
@beliffywu5804 Жыл бұрын
dual and fetch lands
@malakimphoros2164
@malakimphoros2164 Жыл бұрын
​@@beliffywu5804Temples for the wiiiiinnnnn
@WatchListConnoisseur
@WatchListConnoisseur Жыл бұрын
Those come in Commander Masters II, III & IV, etc.
@chiblast100x
@chiblast100x Жыл бұрын
@@beliffywu5804 Original duals will never get reprinted, they are on the reserve list. Fetch lands, however, will probably eventually get reprinted again... since they are legal outside Standard and Pioneer, probably in a Modern focused set since Commander is lumped in with Vintage and Legacy because of legal card pool.
@drpibisback7680
@drpibisback7680 Жыл бұрын
Mana Crypt is extremely egregious, it's climbed up to nearly 200 bucks despite being reprinted pretty recently, in a set that had a lot of cards that should have been in a Commander reprint set (Double Masters 2022). Mana Crypt's continued existence in the format is questionable, but it's exceptionally questionable when the gulf between having one Sol Ring and two Sol Rings in your deck is $170.
@michaelmiller5177
@michaelmiller5177 Жыл бұрын
There should absolutely be a "premium" product in MTG, filled with rare art, treatment, and serialized cards to push the price. Those cards won't lose value over time and are meant for collectors and high end players. But the set and draft boosters, should have an MSRP geared towards new player entry. Asking a new player to put down $80-120 for a deck or $50-60 for a draft is way more than most newcomers would want to fork over. I recently had about $100 to blow on Magic. In years past that would have been a booster box, maybe a couple of pre-cons. This time around it was just singles. At the end of the day, these prices aren't set by WotC, LGSs, big box stores, or online retailers, it's set by the consumer. As long as players are willing to doll out several hundred dollars, if not thousands of dollars, for these products the prices will remain this high.
@doolittle8888
@doolittle8888 Жыл бұрын
I think it's worth noting that for the dud rares segment you mentioned Abundance, Decimate, and Jace Mirror Mage. Not a single one of those is actually in boosters, they're all in one of the precons or another which use the same set code. You can tell due to their high collector numbers, even if they don't say how many cards are in the main set anymore.
@xxPenjoxx
@xxPenjoxx Жыл бұрын
My husband ended up sitting out of last weekends draft because it was too expensive. I was surprised because it meant he missed magic, but I get it now. Love these in-depth explanations about overpriced new products.
@DiabloMatrix968
@DiabloMatrix968 Жыл бұрын
Great review prof! I agree with you, and think the contents of the packs and cannot justify the price. Buying singles is the way to go after prices drop a bit
@JoeDun
@JoeDun Жыл бұрын
Recently picked up the game after playing yugioh for years, I really appreciate the type of content you make and other mtg creators make. It makes it so much easier to figure out what to buy.
@mikeguanci1138
@mikeguanci1138 Жыл бұрын
I like some of the full art card designs and will probably grab some of those at some point but not planning on buying any boxes to crack open which I normally like to do.
@winkelfilms
@winkelfilms Жыл бұрын
Been having a really rough mental health week, thanks for the upload, always brings light to my day
@stanislav_5312
@stanislav_5312 Жыл бұрын
I was amazed how singles prices tanked even before release. Well better for me, in a month i will be picking up those for a few cents.
@BooAxe
@BooAxe Жыл бұрын
Really excited to finally grab a copy of doubling season, but where is parallel lives?
@beliffywu5804
@beliffywu5804 Жыл бұрын
LOL. keep dreaming buddy boy. people always say that... but then they drop like 10 to 20% then go back to where they were
@beliffywu5804
@beliffywu5804 Жыл бұрын
@@BooAxe I have like 10 copies of parallel lives and no doubling season. funny
@agafaba
@agafaba Жыл бұрын
​@@beliffywu5804the big win is the cards that have never had a reprint, their price will definitely stay lower than it would have been, in some cases the lack of a reprint being the only reason they were ever over $100
@iancavalari7286
@iancavalari7286 Жыл бұрын
I felt like the calculated references to gambling were on point, and certainly were considered in their effect. He really went out of his way to hammer that line home a few times and hopefully if wizards wants to keep shooting for the moon with their agreed this will draw the attention should from legislators.
@KR-nd4dm
@KR-nd4dm Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the work Prof, definitely needed this after how horrible this day has been.
@ParkerReidTims
@ParkerReidTims Жыл бұрын
Things will get better, hang in there. 🖤👍
@turbo2763
@turbo2763 Жыл бұрын
Hope your day gets better!
@Logantor
@Logantor Жыл бұрын
Hope your day gets better bud
@seleswilderchan
@seleswilderchan Жыл бұрын
I remember being so excited at the prospect of Commander Masters when it was announced, and when my boyfriend told me the price months ago I told him in disbelief it would go down, that the set would not be that much for a commander set. Now here we are, with both the still ridiculously high prices and lukewarm reprints in it (honestly, the pricing you showed of the top reprints was quite shocking), and my excitement has dwindled to anger. I certainly won’t be partaking in buying this set, except maybe singles from it from my LGS
@equattlebaum22
@equattlebaum22 Жыл бұрын
Just casually juggling about $10K worth of product there with those collector boxes :P
@namebrandlabel
@namebrandlabel Жыл бұрын
@@MrCenturion13true. Even the collector packs for lotr are stacking up around in stores near me.
@origaminosferatu3357
@origaminosferatu3357 Жыл бұрын
@@MrCenturion13 really dude?? It's enough to stop you buying an entire set because they made one character black?? What a hill to die on.
@culturegeekgaming2390
@culturegeekgaming2390 Жыл бұрын
holy shit ! i made the calculation, and this is not a joke ! it's even less than the real value (around 12 000 $ for my local price) Is this it ? magic cards is worth more than gold ? You sell your house, and your car, you can get ... 20 collector booster pack, what a great deal XD
@arphaxadbasilona1871
@arphaxadbasilona1871 Жыл бұрын
@@origaminosferatu3357 It's a good hill to die on amongst the other crappy shit WotC made making that unwanted abomination of a set...imagine making an man-made scarcity on a piece of cardboard like the one ring lol
@Eramiserasmus
@Eramiserasmus Жыл бұрын
Loved this lengthy breakdown of WHY the recommendation is what it is.
@8thy
@8thy Жыл бұрын
Super sad it’s so expensive, locally in Australia it’s looking like a $75 AUD draft, I don’t have the kind of income to play the draft format which is a bummer, I loved both the Commander Legends draft sets and this third one I’m gonna have to miss. Also little video correction, the Jace, Mirror Mage printing is in the Planeswalker precon not in draft boosters, all the monocoloured planeswalker commanders from a past precon cycle in it though!
@xander_man
@xander_man Жыл бұрын
My LGS is charging $90AUD and still taking a loss
@Spoondogg
@Spoondogg Жыл бұрын
So excited for the stream on the 4th, a streamer I enjoy with drops/a giveaway I'm actually interested in? That's a no brainer professor. Bless your soul.
@simoncss1
@simoncss1 Жыл бұрын
Think, thus far, this is the set that best exemplifies Prof’s ad nauseum message of “buy singles”. Greed is a very human trait but the recent years have shown that Hasbro/WotC is trying its utmost to show us inhuman greed. Some time back when Prof. invited Gavin for a round of Battlebond fun, I was lamenting why for so many years WotC wasn’t following up that most excellent product with its stellar EV. But now, I do fear a bit that if & when WotC does revisit Battlebond, it’ll b priced no different from the most costly Masters sets.
@KidTokyo_
@KidTokyo_ Жыл бұрын
Love you dude! This channel literally saved me from depression
@JosephFitts
@JosephFitts Жыл бұрын
To me, THIS was the kind of set to do the aftermath style packs that don't have commons.
@pokepat460
@pokepat460 Жыл бұрын
Draft packs of edh reprint sets can make for fun drafts if they don't load it with chaff and if it costed like $20 instead of $60.
@TodayWePlay06
@TodayWePlay06 Жыл бұрын
The Whatnot promo seemed like a skit right out of Rick and Morty and it's hilarious😂😂😂
@HeySaiAqui
@HeySaiAqui Жыл бұрын
yes!! I thought I was the only who noticed it, it reallyy felt like Rick n Morty
@rustybrazenfire
@rustybrazenfire Жыл бұрын
I was hoping that this video was going to be like 70 seconds (10 seconds to say no and 60 seconds for a sponsor) Alas, actual content. Good stuff Prof!
@coolBguy
@coolBguy Жыл бұрын
For the price of 1 draft box commander masters you could almost get 4 draft boxes of commander legends bfbg. 3/4th that price would be closer to something I'd consider buying but then there is still too much bulk in it for my taste.
@smolshay
@smolshay Жыл бұрын
Right? I'd rather spend $400 on TWO boxes from a previous set if I wanted to Crack packs and get fun stuff. Or I'd spend $400 on upgrades for current decks, OR $400 on 2 or 3 new decks with some higher powered cards in them. $400 for one box is asinine!
@bmprosser
@bmprosser Жыл бұрын
Good luck on whatnot, everyone. I’ll be sitting the giveaways out from now on because life. But much love to the prof. for doing these giveaways, even if they are sponsored.
@Nerveroxis
@Nerveroxis Жыл бұрын
These really becoming an excersize on how many ways to say no. Wilds of Eldraine seems like it will actually be good and worth it. I do love that my LGS's are having a launch event for Commander Masters with the entry fee being purchase one of the precons to play in the event. Not paying $99.99 (local LGS price) for an average precon. Bought my Riders of Rohan precon for less than half that and it's just as good if not better than most the CM precons.
@owlbedamned4034
@owlbedamned4034 Жыл бұрын
Professor really channeled the Interdimensional Cable during the sponsored part of the video.
@jamescruz8678
@jamescruz8678 Жыл бұрын
5:50 Someone got a hold of a pack at Target early and it went for $18 USD :(
@Fistfullofpizza
@Fistfullofpizza Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the impressive review. You may have been generous with your grade.
@ChickenMcThiccken
@ChickenMcThiccken Жыл бұрын
wotc: lets make a set that's stupidly expensive. then immediately after. the next set includes same mythic powerhouse cards for hella cheap? wotc: yes. good idea
@Timmyfigs
@Timmyfigs Жыл бұрын
I 100% agree with your final point that the sku selections were wrong for this targeted commander set. If I were releasing it, Set booster boxes, and bundles, and collector boosters would be the way to go. I wouldn't even have made commander decks, except maybe to re-release the top 4-5 previous ones in full.
@proddreamatnight
@proddreamatnight Жыл бұрын
I can never not say the "Many Magic The Gathering players ask the question" line along with you
@msorsher
@msorsher Жыл бұрын
I wonder if the supplemental product team and the main set teams at WOTC compare work. Back to back reprint (though ecstatic to have them) seems like a failure in collaboration
@dzdj
@dzdj Жыл бұрын
Played a preview over the weekend and had a blast. I love commado draft format. It makes for some fun games. It's just so expensive.
@SarithenVol
@SarithenVol Жыл бұрын
Sets like this are why I like to buy singles.
@3ndlessL00p
@3ndlessL00p Жыл бұрын
I am proxying every MTG card I need for the foreseeable future, but I will still watch these videos.
@santuli_91
@santuli_91 Жыл бұрын
I've drafted the set twice. My first draft I walked away with a borderless Jeweled Lotus, Selvala, and Razaketh, as well as bunch of smaller things (Ashnod's Altar, Mangara, Exsanguinate). My second draft my most expensive pull was a Sol Ring. C+ feels appropriate.
@LieutenantP1ckle
@LieutenantP1ckle Жыл бұрын
I had friends who were so excited for this set, waited all year, evenmkre excited for it than LOTR. They were lived when they saw the prices and realized they can't engage in the sealed experience at all. Keeping new cards limited to the precons is also a huge slap in the face
@AC-mb2kp
@AC-mb2kp Жыл бұрын
My luck I'll win a box and it will be one of the ones tossed on the ground all dented 😂
@DumahAtreides
@DumahAtreides Жыл бұрын
For sure - reprints sets would be an awesome place to see known packages of cards. Make a set of 20 card packs or so with no unknowns except perhaps some alternative art.
@werothegreat
@werothegreat Жыл бұрын
It's stuff like this that is making me hopeful that Lorcana does well. MTG players don't even need to like or play it, but if it does well enough, it will draw players away from MTG, which might finally convince Hasbro to start lowering their prices to try to lure players back.
@pascalsimioli6777
@pascalsimioli6777 Жыл бұрын
Lorcana is going to be a Disney advertisement printed on small pieces of cardboard. They already stated to have no intention to balance the game cause the game "isn't too casual or too competitive". I was really hopeful but truth is Disney can just pump money into it and will survive even if it's a hell scape of a game, supported by Disney fans. I think I will just take a look into Battle Spirit Saga or Digimon.
@Yae_Publishing_House
@Yae_Publishing_House Жыл бұрын
They say there are no stupid questions, this is the exception.
@cuccooverlord9812
@cuccooverlord9812 Жыл бұрын
Thats a ton of money. What is wrong with WOTC?
@randomrandom1050
@randomrandom1050 Жыл бұрын
Because: Hasbro
@deejayf69
@deejayf69 Жыл бұрын
I was really looking forward to this particular set as a Commander-only player but the price tag killed it for me.
@Maya_Momo
@Maya_Momo Жыл бұрын
Many Magic: The Gathering players know the answer, its never worth it to buy a booster box at over 400 euro! Love to vids as usual professor, but Commander Masters has deeply upset me from the outrageous price points. You could tell me the second coming of Christ could be in those packs and I won't be buying at those absurd prices.
@lordsauron8546
@lordsauron8546 Жыл бұрын
The big issue I feel with having a draft environment for something that's specifically a reprint set is that the set itself gets pulled in two different directions; one side being the draft environment, and the other being the "lottery" aspect of the packs (where the value is). I'd rather there just be set boosters with a focus on high value reprints across the board, common to rare. At least Dread Return is pauper legal!
@hosersupreme
@hosersupreme Жыл бұрын
I like how the Professor sounded like Rick and Morty ending a season with their chaotic, frantic rant about the collector booster box give away
@Hedgemonkey5
@Hedgemonkey5 Жыл бұрын
The problem I have with this set is that I have the vast majority of the cards in it already, so they'll mostly be going straight into trades. The only ones I don't have are the tempting but OP cards which are ~1/100 of actually pulling; Doubling Season, Lotus, Deflecting Swat, Deadly Rollick... but these are also cards which should never have been printed or are way too hardcore for our *"Casual Format"* (with extremely heavy air quotes), so I'm not sure I really want them anyway.
@trident042
@trident042 Жыл бұрын
Of course Prof is right - as much as I've seen plenty of people having fun drafting CMM (LRR, for example), the fact of the matter is, Masters sets should not have Draft Boosters. Set boosters and Collector boosters should be the whole set. It's all reprints, the goal is to let players get at the cards that see usage in the game we all play. That's the whole point. Right? So they should be "fill out your collection and get some bling in the process" boosters. If people want to draft cards in the set, hey here's a thought maybe WotC can put some time into helping people create their own cubes, sell official cube merch and post guides on creating good draft formats and such.
@Gofioneta
@Gofioneta Жыл бұрын
In Europe (At least the Canary Island in Spain) they are selling the set box at ALMOST 500€... Just incredible.
@Gofioneta
@Gofioneta Жыл бұрын
In fact ive just seen, in amazon the box is 552€ :)
@DJ-se5pl
@DJ-se5pl Жыл бұрын
I was honestly planning on drafting but I've not been in the loop. Didn't realize this set was that expensive. Might have to pass on that draft 😢
@AverageEnjayer
@AverageEnjayer Жыл бұрын
To give you a price comparison our draft booster boxes are $524, our Set booster boxes are $710 and collector boosters are $367. We get absolutely screwed over in pricing overseas because there is no MSRP for stores to abide by and these prices above were from a WPN game store, absolutely disgusting pricing.
@deputydevil6839
@deputydevil6839 Жыл бұрын
I can say without a doubt that I am the target audience for this set. I recently got into commander this year and don't really have an extensive collection, but I do very much enjoy deckbuilding and playing with my playgroup as we all evolve into better players. Couldn't be more excited to crack open my first set and be flooded with juicy commander staples to start out my collection, despite the $400 plus tax and shipping I reluctantly shilled out for it.
@smolshay
@smolshay Жыл бұрын
As someone who has played commander for a while now you definitely would be better off buying singles or packs from older sets. There are plenty of cards that you can make work in commander from normal sets. I love cracking packs as much as everyone else, but when the packs cost this much? You're not getting much value out of it.
@AJHornet1
@AJHornet1 Жыл бұрын
I drafted this last night. It was the best fun I’ve had playing Magic in a LONG time. I can’t believe it but I am actually considering buying a draft box.
@GamingBear_Q_E_D
@GamingBear_Q_E_D Жыл бұрын
We can copy the Prof snd proxy them all .. no need to even buy singles! We can out do the prof by proxying in every card to play with our friends .. we will all save a fortune!
@rbruch98
@rbruch98 Жыл бұрын
I think you're being beyond generous in giving this a C+. At best, this is a D+ for me - Even then, the precons are where my interest is, but not for the price theyre at.
@dre983
@dre983 Жыл бұрын
The giveaway announcement reminds me of when Morty gets upset about something, "get your sh** together Summer!" 🤣
@Kagebushin01
@Kagebushin01 Жыл бұрын
I've already took Prof's advice and pre-ordered some singles
@Shane16784
@Shane16784 Жыл бұрын
I know the topic is Commander Masters, but on that mention of Mystical Archive; I loved the spell in Strixhaven, loved the artifacts in Brothers’ War, will probably love the Enchantments. Can’t wait for the Planeswalker archive haha.
@kingdare4585
@kingdare4585 Жыл бұрын
Fridays Draft I was lucky got a side art of Naheb and a friece gardingship on pack1 pick 2 then 3rd pack Doubling season 😅 great night
@slumdutchmillionare
@slumdutchmillionare Жыл бұрын
Watching the professor’s commercials feels like I’m watching inter-dimensional cable…
@Treecko890
@Treecko890 Жыл бұрын
Im super excited to draft this set next week with my friends! I bought the whole box myself and Im hoping to keep a lot of the staples at uncommon and common since I just started playing and keep anything I would want to play, and then sell the rest and hope the fun we got out it was worth the difference in price for me!
@jasonbennardini7756
@jasonbennardini7756 Жыл бұрын
Always appreciate your videos. The singles I need for my deck. I can buy all of them for around 50 bucks. No way I’m ripping any of these. 15-16 a set booster? That is literally insane….
@Tomyzz
@Tomyzz Жыл бұрын
2:19 "Collector Masters" - so accurate!
@BrensExhausted
@BrensExhausted Жыл бұрын
Best part, hands-down, is the prof, forgetting how to end a video, and just sort of modeling off into existence at the end there 😂
@BriPod90
@BriPod90 Жыл бұрын
The hand motions are on point as always.
@Akuyuye
@Akuyuye Жыл бұрын
Hug Someone as the Professor is hugging those collector boxes
@jaketheyounggiant
@jaketheyounggiant Жыл бұрын
Bro hit us with the Dark5 music and freaked me out 😂
@williamwh810
@williamwh810 Жыл бұрын
Was thinking about getting a pack or two, but thanks to your video I will just get the cards as singles. What I am after may cost more than a pack, but a lot less value in trades than I thought. Thank you for the video.
@CervantesVI
@CervantesVI Жыл бұрын
The thing that makes bonus sheet cards so beloved is that they're pure upside. It doesn't matter if you open a dud bonus sheet card, because it's just a free add-in. What sucks so much about these (not) premium reprint sets is that you still have the dud rares and mythics, but you *are* paying a premium for the pack. I know Wizards says its to raise the excitement for when you open a valuable card, but I don't know about you all, but I've never felt "excited" to open a valuable card from an expensive set, I've only felt relief and a sense of "finally" which is not a great feeling to instill in someone if you intend on them opening a lot of your product.
@amokk187
@amokk187 Жыл бұрын
Here in Montreal, Quebec, canada, draft boosters are 19.99$ +tx (15%) = 22.99$, set boosters are 24.99$ +tx= 28.75$ and collector boosters are 89.99$ + tx=103.48$ WHICH IS RIDICULOUSLY INSANE. In comparison, a collector booster for LOTR right now is from 49.99$ to 59.99$ , a double masters pack is about 24.99$, a mystery booster is 14.99$. I think this set is BY FAR the most expensive with so little chance to get a thing. Yeah it's gambling but this set is gambling and being screwed over for the price
@mikeroach9224
@mikeroach9224 Жыл бұрын
Thank you. I knew this, but I needed to hear this lol
@jnroden
@jnroden Жыл бұрын
Professor makes a great last point! If WotC had ONLY printed SET boosters, but at the price point of what they did Draft, I think this Masters set may have been an amazing product for all MtG Commander players who wanted to expand their inventory for their future deck builds. Had WotC priced and advertised the product this way, it would have been a win/win!
@nickrossi5992
@nickrossi5992 Жыл бұрын
I will say that the drafting I did was pretty fun and most folks pulled value (with extra prize packs) but yeah, especially after this, I’m more hyped for Eldraine personally
@NotoriousM16
@NotoriousM16 Жыл бұрын
The sponsored segment feels like something from Rick & Morty’s Interdimensional Cable 😂
@derekwilliamson2118
@derekwilliamson2118 Жыл бұрын
I signed up for whatnot! Can’t wait for tomorrow, prof!
@defiantparsnip
@defiantparsnip Жыл бұрын
In unrelated news, Tuya Bearclaw looks like a fun pauper commander.
@Flyboy245
@Flyboy245 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the analysis, as always. I look forward to this video coming out every set, as it is a contributing factor in whether or not I will consider buying a box
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