Is Java TOO Hard to Learn?

Is Java easy to learn, and I'm just not good at programming? Or is Java hard to learn?
Some general tips on learning to code and learning a programming language like Java.
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[@TheMetaSD]

Java is one of those languages where you may have a very hard time understanding it until one day BOOM! It suddenly makes sense and becomes easy.

[@HowToNotCodeFr]

I agree.

[@akshaymanta55]

Yeah seriously man I actually find it the easiest but I have to say python is literally like writing in English. But I still love Java

[@Kloutkulture]

Java isn’t hard. Trying to cram Java instead of learning at your own pace IS HARD

[@arturfil]

I started with javascript and found it too hard, I went to python and found it too hard so I backtracked to html and css and started form there. I picked up javascript again. I learned javascript and jQuery and some frameworks like React and Angular. from there I took a bootcamp. I then learned Java and started doing some Android programming. Right now I am in a Computer Science program and I am doing C programming for my data structures and algorithms class and I am also using ansi C to program an operating system for another class. Imagine that I thought that javascript was too hard so I started with html and css lol. My point here is, don't get frustrated, this is a marathon not a race and if you do a little every day and learn the basics well, one day you'll look back and see how much you have advanced.

[@benzflynn]

You took a path that was meaningful and manageable for you. It all worked out in the end.

[@thelonercoder5816]

I'm in a similar position. I had to backtrack and i'm starting from html, css, and javascript but im slowly making my way into more "complex" languages. Learning less complex language def helps learning new languages easier lol.

[@arturfil]

@pinto beansIf you read, it was the other way around and yeah, I found JS more intuitive. Also computer science concepts are not related to programming language concepts. What you say makes no sense.

[@kingcrashplays]

I remember when I had the audacity of trying to learn c++ as my first language. That went as well as you’d expect it to. I went down to python and hated the syntax and overall layout, then I came across Java and fell in love with it.

[@StefanMischook]

Yes ... C++ is not my first choice of a language to teach someone programming with.

[@brutusjackendy3658]

C was my first language, then C++, Python, then Java. The more I learn, the easier picking up a new language gets simply because I know the principals of how it works and I have experience those same principals in many different ways through different languages. The beginning is indeed the hardest! I remember how hard it was for me years ago when I was learning C. If I can do it, so can anyone else.

[@elitehaxxor8025]

@@brutusjackendy3658 it's really just about pushing through the initial learning curve. The first few months is extremely difficult, especially if you're trying to cram through a bootcamp or course. I'd always suggest just getting a book like Head First Java, run through it, try to change up the little projects they give you, then once your done with the book, start doing your own thing and researching.

[@sparkscomputerprogramming]

same here

[@rishabhsemwal4180]

Hated python syntax?? Python have most beautiful syntax

[@Ctrl_Alt_Elite]

Yes to this video! Stick it out, it will make sense eventually. Callbacks and Promises in JavaScript are two things that tripped me up recently as their syntax is confusing as hell to look at to begin with. But sometimes you have to slow down and process each line of code. If a concept doesn't resonate with you immediately, break it down and walk through the logic in steps. Track the variables or arguments and note what happens to them & when along the way. It's also a good idea to have a pen and paper handy. You won't fill all the jigsaw pieces at once but over time they'll come together.

[@dwh19891218]

So glad I Learned java as first language.

[@taariqq]

I was going over a stack overflow question about how to include another file, like a header to a webpage, in a file in Java. People answered with the code. What was funny was one guy answered "why don't you use PHP" and then he shows this little one-liner ... that's it ... done!

[@h3w45]

@@taariqq and yet companies still use Java for web, that's the power of Java.

[@manuelengel3680]

Me, too. And I really struggled with it back in 2013. In 2019, I don't have any fear about a possible lack of programming skills anymore.

[@manuelengel3680]

@Epoch plus5 I work for a small local IT company. But, be aware. There is a big difference between my spare-time projects(games in either Java, JavaScript, C, Object Pascal) and projects at work(web-stuff in HTML, PHP, JS, Python).

[@manuelengel3680]

@Epoch plus5 Why does that matter? What was the point in asking me to begin with?

[@MuhammadAmir-fs8sh]

Who else wants a java vs c#, spring vs .net video ?

[@bongbuincyril6150]

Pls btw Java and C# which is easier

[@Mrmcwarpather]

I just want money lmao

[@tweg5]

Lmao, nah because we already know .net is better.

[@abdirahmanabdikadir5630]

🖐🏾

[@BionicCyborg]

If you are targeting a microsoft platform which a lot of business and even early biotech's did (stop you python guys I said early I know they faked the moon landing and the human genome project. Of course the moon landing was fake there wasn't any JavaScript frameworks)...I know that. If you are looking at business in the past C# made sense, it still might. Java only makes sense if you want to use non- microsoft platforms and were/are willing to tolerate it's speed. I never programmed with Java (Professionally) ,I helped my daughter in AP Java and programmed a Wolfram Cellular Automata in Java (For me). Here is a news flash J++ in the 90 which a few substitues became C#. C# was always based on Java .I would admit to hating Java and more or less refusing to use it at work only because there has never been a viable reason to use it in my work domains. (Not saying there isn't a good argument for it) . I am getting long in the tooth so I love Go. For me other than not a huge ecosystem it suits what I am doing calling web API and needing to convert into SQL fast (Concurrency). So langauges have there uses depending on what you are using the langauage for... UNIX maybe Java maybe C++, Data Science Python or R , Mobile phones not sure I am learning Flutter that may be a mistake. What I do in a fraction of what I do at work ...Go in the other part C#,SQL,Powershell,JSON some intranet ASP.Net C# Forms and MVC. The point is nothing is inherently superior to the other it depends on use case. If someone argues only for A over B they may only know A. They are not willing to learn so the cling. I am not a JavaScript guy . I hate it! If I were using it for UX/UI well I might say I better learn JavaScript. Now I want to do server side stuff should I play with NodeJS yes . Did I yes! For my purpose was NodeJS better than Go? Absolutely not it was so inferior ! I am old and I probably want to stick with older languages like Go ( Actually reminds me of C++ /C)...sort of joking. In this field the cool langauge constantly changes if you can't change, you maybe have a career in software just not a coder. Hell maybe go into sales or management no shame in that. They make better money! Me I love slinging code!

[@robertvandeneijk1284]

The basic fundamentals of Java are pretty easy. But for some it can be very hard to get a good grip at OOP. And also, almost every statement you write comes with 10 pages of fine print you have to take into account to write good code. And that's where most people fail without knowing it. The rules and acknowledgements are so important.

[@jesseflanigan9008]

Taking Data Structures and Algorithms with Java right now. VERY VERBOSE. Good video!

[@jamilxt]

Can you please share the resources? Thank you. :)

[@thomaswinterburn6680]

@@jamilxt I love java i find it fun

[@benzflynn]

The problem with these short intensive courses is that there is no time for the student to sleep on the major concepts of Java, e.g. the concept of class, collection, interface, etc. We all need some time on new things. We have to ask ourself why this or that thing may be needed in a language, why it's done they way it is and what way we might do it. And we have to take time on things we don't understand. It so much harder in a bootcamp situation to stop on something you don't get. You feel that everyone else is moving on and you're all alone getting left behind, a failure, etc, etc. Morale-wise it is often easier to self-learn with a good book, a suitable IDE and a little support from good videos and some examples from various Java sites. And yes, without doubt, you only REALLY know you've got some aspect of Java down when you can successfully code up the exercises that use it. So what I'm saying is that I don't think that bootcamps work so good for total beginners.

[@benzflynn]

@Peter Mortensen You never heard of a short intensive course on Java, Node.js, React.js, etc ? Boys oh boys. Well, they're courses that are given over anything between 3-4 days to 6 weeks. Quite pricey too, some of them. Google them up.

[@leandrolambardi9712]

which books would you recommend?

[@leandrolambardi9712]

@@benzflynn Thank you very much for taking the time to answer. That's exactly the kind of material I was looking for. I wish you a happy new year.

[@benzflynn]

@@leandrolambardi9712 Es nada. Viva Diego.

[@BionicCyborg]

Nice advice....first code langauge is always tough. My first coding language C. I never programmed professionally in C. I got a C .....in C. Life went on. Love coding.

[@GoodGuyDream]

There is an easy way to learn java! learn c++ first then learn java!

[@lincolnsand5127]

No. Learn Rust instead. You'll save yourself your soul.

[@lincolnsand5127]

@John D Gates I very much disagree. I much prefer having control over memory and pointers as more design patterns can be created and more predictable object lifetimes arise. That isn't to say garbage collection is bad (I use gc languages as well). I just like having the choice and freedom of lower level languages. I would agree that C++ memory management is not great, but have you ever looked into Rust? Also. As much as I hate on C++, it is still miles ahead of Java. Java is awful. C# at least fixed a few of the issues with Java, but it's still got room to grow. Java & Oracle could go die and the world would be a better place. Java is not expressive at all and has the clunkiness of C++ without any safety guarantees. Java has no real excuse. Java is effectively modern COBOL: bulky, slow, & nobody enjoys using it. That is my opinion though, feel free to write a rebuttal with your reasons for why you enjoy Java.

[@tasheemhargrove9650]

@@lincolnsand5127 So you'd build a web app in C++ over Java? I was under the impression that both languages have their strengths and weaknesses.

[@lincolnsand5127]

@@tasheemhargrove9650 I'd rather use rust to build a web app over java

[@tasheemhargrove9650]

​@@lincolnsand5127 Rust isn't C++. But I get it. In your mind, Java must be the most lucrative language by accident.

[@flaviu-vanca]

THIS VIDEO IS SPOT ON ABOUT LEARNING JAVA. THANKS FOR SHARING YOUR THOUGHTS. The first and only language I've learned is java. The following is my experience learning java. I failed 3 times the foundation exam and then passed it with 78%. Nothing made sense to me, but I managed to pass the exam. I failed Associate se 8 with 60%, but with some revision, I managed to achieve 80%. It was the time where I started to enjoy learning java. Then ocp se 8 came along, and it was tough for me, I mean, it was really tough for the fact that there was so much to retain. I failed the exam twice with 57%, and I started to get very frustrated because I was scoring high on mock exams but low on proper one, until the third time when I managed to achieve a score of 66%. I was a bit disappointed but in the end, it was a pass. Then I realized that the score is irrelevant because it's a test made to push your boundaries. By the way, I sat the se 11 exam without preparation and failed it with 48%. With java being updated so often, my opinion is that merging associate and professional into one is a bad idea. It should be split into 3 short but tough and affordable exams, and the associate remains as it is but professional to be split into 2 separate exams. My advice is to never give up no matter how many times you fail the exams. Failing will make you stronger and wiser. You will be grateful in the end. Java is a beautiful language. Good luck with studying Java.

[@anotherwave8035]

Thank you. I appreciate the encouragement.

[@eriktred]

Great advice! I felt the same when I first started to code...

[@masoomeamini1397]

Grateful for your advices . I try to use it during my process 😁

[@StefanMischook]

Happy to help!

[@christanronald1271]

In my opinion the stuff that comes after java like Spring is way harder to learn than just plain Java.

[@paulocabelloacha4195]

I agree at all with this video, thanks!. There's a lot of trees in your city, what a beautiful view!

[@757Media]

Thanks Stefan I am taking my Java class this term at my university and I was feeling lost and partially dumb. This was a welcoming wake up call. Reminding me to take it a little by little until my mind can absorb the concepts of the language

[@nacholibre5705]

Im learning Java as a first language and struggling somewhat. Part of the problem is that my lab is taught by other students, which doesn't help at all. But one thing I've learned is that practice is key.

[@michaelharrington5860]

I just finished my first week in a full stack development in Java bootcamp. It's difficult, it's mindbending, but it's incredibly rewarding when these concepts and logic clicks. I love programming

[@Imeric_]

I chose Java as my first language at the age of 12. Didn't understand much of it back then, took a break and at the age of 13 I understood it more, now im 14 and I know some stuff, the reason i chose java was because I like minecraft and I wanted to code plugins and mods, that's what I do now.

[@thomaswinterburn6680]

I started with java it is like unraveling a ball of yarn. took me months, you should focus in on small bits of progress spend time on it. Steve is right thou I started his web developer course recently and his teaching ability is as good as it gets, I wish I began with his courses but I do feel I can navigate java pretty well and I dropped out in grade 9.

[@msugal]

Have an interview coming up in a few days, I know Java and Python. I'll stick with Java because I find it more easier to translate my thought process into code. Python is good for hacking small scripts.

[@andriyua7802]

This video is so unmotivated=) But I'll continue learn this language because I believe in myself and I recommend everyone believe in yourself and in the future you'll find you job!!!!!!!Good luck !

[@asifgaming8630]

100% Agree

[@FourthRoot]

I've been teaching myself Java on jGrasp using online resources. I'm definitely getting there. I can write code to do what I want it to do, but to say that the process is frustrating is an understatement. In the back of my mind there's a caged angry nerd that assumes he knows better shouting "Why would you structure a programming language this way!? This makes things pointlessly complicated! Why do I keep typing the word "static" when I still don't fully understand what it means? Why are all the examples I'm looking up using constructors when my code works fine and seems simpler without them? WTF does "this" mean, why is it used? Why is every explanation I find online of these things equally unhelpful?"

[@cuddy90210]

Thank you so much!.. I feel better now!

[@ffatheranderson]

Very good advices. PS: except one - I would recommend to start from java or C# or Swift (I personally started from java) - atleast these languages are really wide used and you will be able to find work to apply your knowledge ASAP aithout RElearning java after (God keep you from learning Javascript as a first language) Javascript or python.... Python and Javascript are dynamically typed languages - and the one can set wrong (yes I do not like dynamically typed languages and style that Javascript developers write in) the "code writing descepline" for himself if starts from such languages...

[@curtisdavis8594]

Yes. I was teaching, today. The person was "Forcing" the results. Teach students step by step debugging. My background C#..many people do not know/practice basic OOP principles. polymorphisms Inheritance Encapsulation.. S.O.LID.. Thank You

[@trannhanITSinhVien]

In Vietnam, I learned Pascal in secondary school and high school. When I came to university, I learned C and C++, so Java is super easy with me.

[@jiajunzeng5632]

thank you for your advice and encouragement.

[@StefanMischook]

Any time!

[@weewee4805]

sometimes i understand the concept but i dont know how to code it . Guess ill go take your advice of 20 minutes per day Thanks for the advice love it

[@bariole]

Java is small language with clear syntax and excelent tooling. By my opinion, in a group of most used languages, Java is is one of the simplest and easiest to learn. The biggest learning hurdles of Java are: required compile step (non obvius tooling wizardy) and insisting on OoO concepts even they aren't a plus (non obvious semantic magic). I would say that ideal first language is Python, with only actual failure being horrible vm implementation in a CPython (and for beginers that is non issue). Von Neumann langauges with Algol/C structure, like Java, are quite easy to learn in general. The tooling and frameworks are much harder step. Stuff like handling linker erros in C, too many objects of Object type in Node and all that Spring and WebSpheres in Java are the actual learning hurdles.

[@taariqq]

Stef, when do the fall colors start to appear over there? I missed the last bit of the last video b/c I was listening with monitor shut down and I was in bed. Gotta go back.

[@StefanMischook]

In about 2-3 weeks. I will be sure to take some 4k video of that with my cinema camera.

[@taariqq]

@@StefanMischook Cool.

[@porrest11]

I got introduced into programming in high school, c++ to be more precisely. I messed around with c++ for 4 years, just as you said, i took it slow. Now Im in college, java being my favourite language, and i dont have problem learning a new language since i've learned the concepts of programming. What Im strugling with now is the design of the code. Now, I think coding is a very easy thing to do while designing the code being the hard part. Take it slow!

[@AbuSuhayb363]

Thank you Stefan for the advice

[@StefanMischook]

Welcome.

[@Johnny0nieves1]

Great advice!!

[@EntreMaster]

Yes, it's harder for most. But it's made for enterprise thinkers. You should learn Java if you want to build an enterprise level business.

[@cd78]

Absolute bollocks. You could build an enterprise application in many other languages

[@EntreMaster]

@@cd78 of course you can. But Java is commonly used for enterprise apps

[@SaimSelim]

Thank you Stefan this was the video I was looking for .

[@StefanMischook]

Glad it was helpful!

[@deimanterepsaite9014]

-Am I that stupid? -It could be! I burst in laugh😂😂😂😂

[@garrethmayham6576]

I like when info about learning explain people like you author, slowly, without expession, but with the reliance..thank you for video.

[@gvasconcellos92]

Well, i’m lovin Java. I think its complex, but it kinda good in a certain way. I think the code is very “readable”.

[@StefanMischook]

Java code is readable and dependable for sure. But the infrastructure around it is yuuge.

[@AnnaIsHere]

Thanks for this comforting

[@granporculio]

I love your videos, the way you explain and share your experience & wisdom. You're the big Lebowski of the programming world.

[@mahdibakht9676]

Java isn't that much hard like C. It will take time to know what to do, just practice write software and learn design patterns. It's a very good and powerful language, i recommend it. Learn java you can learn C,C#,Python,JavaScript, easier all the concepts and OOP are same.

[@olitonottero7620]

Very helpful review !!!

[@DevlogBill]

Great video Stef always love watching your content. Talking about your video I may have to review JavaScript again but for high order array functions, how to destructor and the reduce method. Basically, I had hit a roadblock with React. What is confusing is something called method called useState(). I am at the point where I am trying to write code in one file and link the code to the primary root file which is your App.js file. Switching between files and having code on one file and calling that code to the main file is getting very tricky. Maybe I need to review Vanilla JavaScript again to make sure I am able to use React correctly? Which is why I am thinking to review Vanilla JavaScript to make sure I am ready for React. As always excellent video.

[@flipmode916]

Get a Gaddis book. I learned c++ first, learning java now. I'm still in my infancy with programming. But I feel java is a little less intuitive than c++. Yeah yeah, pointers. I know. Makes it so much better not having to deal with pointers.

[@inf3ct3ddr3amz]

Thanks man seriously I just brought a full course for full stack python and java I’m excited but I’m ready the journey.

[@Aayush-yr1df]

Hello, can someone please tell me that after learning basics of java like oop concept ,constructor, polymorphism, encapsulation, Inheritance, Arrays, Abstract classes, interfaces, java generics, packages, java collections, lists, maps, sets, what should i learn next in order to get a good programming job . Since I am new to programming I don't know what concepts should I have in my bucket to progress in programming. Later chapter in the course that I am following are, basic input output java.util, concurrency in java, lambda expressions, regular expression, databases so should I learn these concepts first or go for something else. Will be very great full if someone clear my doubt . thank you.

[@alan2211]

Please let me know if you find answers.

[@hardikgangani4225]

Please watch KZbin videos about Java road map

[@dudem5447]

Thanks man!

[@mnamaddy]

Thank you. It was like I talked to my dad. It helped me to get more motivation to continue to code.

[@StefanMischook]

Glad I could help!

[@jwd557]

Thanks you bring up a lot of good points

[@Mnerd7368]

If you do something, your brain and mind will struggle but if the person does it a little bit to be expose then someday in months or years the brain will *click* without noticing it or know might notice it is easy. but is a journey, it's a marathon, not a race whose the first, and training too much cause burnout and over stress causing depression and giving too much and after years or decades to learn a programming language and touching *effort* that cause them too much pain to learn the programming language. Though learning the structure of the code in different programming language is just as important to problem-solving and communicating to other people to translate large sets of programs. Good code is self-documenting and less lines of code is the common norm for everyone.

[@aaronerickson6845]

No one ever wants to do it when I tell them, don't depend on schools to learn these things. Learn programming before you're actually in a class and get as far as you can. Theres plenty of cheap/free learning material online.

[@deustitanjiujitsu]

Most of people trying to teach actually don't understand Java. If you learn the basics of OOP very well it will become easier, but still hard.

[@StrawHatGamingg]

Just the video I was looking for as I was coding in Java

[@jhjhj2172]

First language I tried to learn was Java I didn't understand it much now I started learning it after cpp now it's lot easier.

[@AndresTudares]

Before learning a new programming language I always watch your videos, thanks, wise suggestions, God bless you.

[@psychedelictacos9118]

I enrolled in an OOP unit which used java, I unenrolled after 2 weeks coz I didn't understand java. Now after studying a bit of java over the holidays and taking the unit again, I am averaging over 80 percent. It makes more sense, just need to practice.

[@sf2998]

Java is not hard. Beginners may find Java and other OOP languages hard because OOP has too much 'indirectness' by default, eg a class is only a blueprint with encapsulated attributes that cannot and should not be access directly. And then, as your program grows, you need to create abstractions for your classes, which inevitably adds even more layers of 'indirectness' to your code. Some indirectness in coding is fine and necessary but too much of it can be very hard to read even for expert programmers.

[@SimGunther]

It's not too hard to learn the basics of java, but it's impossible to learn everything there is to java, even being in industry for 20 years (much like c++)

[@jail8011]

I’m currently learning Java because I had to choose between C++ or Java I started with python then JavaScript but I start college soon so I choose java and will do C#

[@williamworsham3175]

Ok I’m not sure it’s the language but I’ve tried like four IDEs and I guess they’re just not very user friendly. Now I’m trying on Bluejay because it seems simpler and that’s what I want. I’m also wondering why I can Java in an html….like does that mean I don’t need the IDE? Anyway my frustration is the IDE environment and I’d appreciate like a real course in that. I tried python and it seems like that’s not a pain….so like am I right or just dense?

[@ProgrammingwithPeter]

We are different persons, there exists multiple ways of learning something and maybe your brain prefers another one that you are trying to do. There are no hard to learn language, it's just that if it's not something that you like, it will be a hussle to learn it.

[@efrainmanriquez4586]

Programming with Peter agree.

[@nolifeispower494]

So is it worth to start learning Java in late 2019? I'm learning C++ (I know OOP, learning SFML now) and I'd like learn more about data structures and algorithms or adding assembly code to C++ but most universities in my country teach Java (field of study : software development). I'm about to start my studies in next 2 years but it seems like nothing will change in that case (some schools still teach Pascal). So I wonder if will it be good to start learning Java in next 2 years or should I focus on C++?

[@marcioamaral7511]

C++ before java is a great choice!

[@pladimir_vutin]

Depends on what you want to do witth them. if you're into real low level programming and system design and such, go durther with c+ if you'd like to get a job with it you absolutely can, but java is a better choice for job market. The thing about c/++ is that they are very niche, and if you do learn them, the only positions available will go to you. You can become most likely n embedded system/ firmeare developer. with java however you always have a higher Negotiation power. Btw where are you from? ( curios about the universities teaching Java)

[@nolifeispower494]

@@pladimir_vutin bruh, it's been long time. I'm done with programming. Wish me good luck in classical literature on university

[@coderxgamer]

Java, like any other language can be confusing if it's your first, but you can get used to how programming and Java works with enough practice and it becomes easier over time.

[@koenterheegde9328]

I want to finish my Java course as quickly as possible, but I know it doesn't work that way. I'm not learning just watching videos. I should take more time to learn it.

[@alexandruteodor3585]

Thank you for the video! Where is this beautiful place 7:27 ?

[@vex6559]

Get the sybex books for ocp11 + 17...it's a good start.

[@unity3dconcepts434]

I totally agree. I faced problem in loops. Never understood how loops work how to write my own loops and what the hell is for loop inside another for loop. It takes time to wrap our brains around programming.

[@imdanielmarques]

Is Ruby too Ruby too learn?

[@jensvandenberghe898]

eggcellent question

[@andresramirez3840]

I got a job and we are learning Java for 11 days. I am struggling to write code and understand concepts. It’s just too fast. It makes JavaScript look like cooking eggs

[@kashifaziz5272]

Lol

[@jaykay7932]

No programming language is hard to learn. What’s hard to learn is frame works. Hard to learn in the sense of development, production etc etc. Then I remain baffled as to why php, c# remain favourites compared to cold fusion. Just try and do a CRUD system in c# and compare it to cold fusion. To be clear if I were to start a business up cold fusion would be my choice

[@TheKmsaboor]

I went to a Java Bootcamp too. I wonder if it's the same one in Wilmington Delaware.

[@ashtwenty12]

Learn java , just java oo is not to bad, but do that before learning Spring otherwise you'll get confused what spring takes care of for you.

[@ElTexMexAlex]

Could it be the software guild bootcamp? I am C# major, not really interested in java.

[@ElTexMexAlex]

There is not a lot of java or c# bootcamps. So, I dont know which bootcamp he is talking about. I am currently doing the software guild.

[@hemantakakati1103]

Java as a language is easy but when you work with frameworks that is where the hard concept comes. Like in spring mvc we have to do alot of config. and sometimes more than one two days are needed to spend just to config. properly and tools such as spring data jpa makes your life alot easier for eg you just need to implement CrudRepository interface and you are done, you dont need to write any crud codes. But it also confuse you alot. And there are alot api that needs some real understanding. But on advantage side it makes you a well rounded programmer....

[@Monster33336]

I agree. The hardest part for me is configuring the behavior executions with the API'S.

[@murigig]

How long before I can code a calendar or clock app in Java from scratch?

[@cesarlip3254]

I just took "Eckel, thinking in Java" book (I have ZERO backround in computer science or coding and I am not a native speaker) and my particular problem has been that the explanation, conceptually, is really good; however, when He starts throwing code at you , there are many terms and syntax that simply have not been explained and I am like "why the fook does this code put this word here and this letter here and why is he using { } in that place and is this name free to choose or a necessary piece of code? is like He starts good and then comes up with the code as if I know what the code means........

[@victorkolis3438]

Best video on the topic!

[@theMarhaenist]

It took 2yrs for me. Self-taught. After in my 1st 1yr i learned JS. And as u know JAVA, ull get lot of confidence inside u.

[@abi_hajdari]

Did you get a job bro by self-taught? Im a student but I think I wanna leave university to self study..But is it worth?

[@theMarhaenist]

@@abi_hajdari Whats difficult for a self learner is to understand where you need to be. From what i can guess is that you might be just being tired of all the difficulties given to accomplished. I have some friends whom graduated from CompSci but failed to find job and instead doing other things other than coding (believe it or not?). So whether you choose to proceed or not, whats more important is the possession of the right understanding of JAVA/C++. Like i, myself, i struggled a lot while trying to build the picture of all the puzzled codes of JAVA. Even concepts like generic's wildcard i spent a lot of time failing again and again. Therefore, identify your real problem and decide ur own future. Coding needs passion but sometimes obsession also helps. (I am here obsessed with programming. I have collected thousands of True PDFs about Java/C++/Javascript/so on.). GoodLuck,

[@theMarhaenist]

@@abi_hajdari Sorry, i decided to learn Java/JS for fun only. I have my own business to support me however, in near future i will release a platform/startup just to attempt something new and also starting cost is 'affordable' (such to say). Considering how much u need to start foodshop businesses. Goodluck,

[@abi_hajdari]

@@theMarhaenist understandable,have a great day man...Thanks

[@areebcopycat6765]

@@theMarhaenist same here i want to learn two languages for fun only please help me

[@coderpreneur]

wow bro you talking 100% true. I also agree that Java is bad choice for first language, I suggest go w/ Python first ;)

[@Shiv-vb1re]

If you know how to code you can learn any language

[@synen]

I prefer C# to Java or C++.

[@adamspice9076]

YOUR THE BEST

[@StefanMischook]

That's what she said!

[@alvinmaung1307]

I am currently learning java and c# at the same time. I am wondering if it is a good choice to do both.

[@lesuanunwimene3905]

As long as there's time for study and practice, you're good.

[@itwasag.ijanejoke386]

Learning C(no standard library) before leaning java wored very well for me

[@anotherdovahkiin6272]

How about the comparison between c++ and java

[@skyler948]

I think ur confusing java with c++

[@rinkuverma3459]

If java was even hard then what about c++

[@juanandrade2998]

Whats hard abut Java is not the language, its the way people teach it, and by teach I mean OOP. OOP its too abstract of a concept to grasp even to experienced programmers, eventually what separates a good OOP programmer from the rest, comes from repeating the same patterns over and over until it becomes a habit..., it does not come from a real thought out and fully understood concept. If instead of teaching OOP out of the box, teachers taught generics instead, leading to functional, maybe people would come to a full understanding of what OOP means, maybe not so much "understanding" (because OOP is more like a philosophy than something strictly axiomatic), people would come to _terms_ with what OOP means to them(like religion lol) (I still dont fully get it myself). I use OOP as a convenience tool instead as a rule of life as some people do. BTW I'm not an OOP hater, I just hated that it took me so much damn time to get it, that I began doubting myself, in the end it was just a matter of relativism. Yet some people preach it as an absolute truth.

[@nicholassaulnier5951]

I disagree. Java is a great language to learn first. Make the jump to C and C++ for a tour of memory management/pointers after you've gotten your footing with Java. Get basic data structures/algorithms/IO down, and then start looking at generics, interfaces, lambdas and, most importantly (in my opinion), Object Oriented Design. Start using gradle or maven. When you're coding and you get confused or have a question, ask google. Get really good at searching for and finding the information you need. Also, reference the Java API javadocs and Java tutorials. You can do it! He's right, it just takes time. Lots and lots of time. Don't waste it doubting yourself.

[@thefirehawk1495]

I've programmed in python, php and c++. Java isn't sinking in. Mainly because the code looks so ugly, verbose and repetitive that when looking at it I find it hard do understand anything it's doing, it ends up feeling like I'm polluting my mind learning it.

[@skeliskull]

I really think Java should be a primary language that Universities teach. Maybe they can do python for the introductory course but coming out of a bachelors degree with minimal Java knowledge is rough. The same for C/C++, every university grad should at least have _some_ experience with it. It's especially tough for those learning to code on their own. Because it's harder to stay motivated when using C/C++ or Java because it takes a lot more time to learn them and also get something of reasonable size done. Honestly don't know if I would have been able to learn them if I didn't have the pressure of having to maintain a GPA.

[@vlad981]

Can you explain why?)

[@theultimatereductionist7592]

I know less now about coding, in any language, than when I took my first comp sci course at local community college in Fortran in 1981, then two semesters of C++ in 2005 at the same college. At U of Delaware, for certain chemical engineering course, for my BChE degree that I earned in 1986, I used Fortran. Also, for a year of physical chemistry, I used all the features out of a programmable calculator. On my job as Engineer 1 doing calorimetry and corrosion at Rohm & Haas Research Division 1986 to 1988, I used SAS - Statistical Analysis System. For 12 years in graduate school in math: 1988 to 2000, I did ZERO coding. All math on paper. Except for typing up my doctoral dissertation, which I did in MS Word and Mathtype. In 2012 my programmer brother signed me for his online Java course, to have me be a sort of "beta-tester". Never used Java ever again after that. I began to self-teach myself Python in January 2015 and is currently the ONLY language that I remotely know. All I can do is calculate some numbers using nested for loops.

[@IndellableHatesHandles]

PHP as a _first language_ ? Why would you torture yourself like that?

[@XLuckyChloeX]

Doing my degree learning Java, felt out of place and this helped me so much

[@GarrettH1]

Struggling with my java course at a community college.

[@StefanMischook]

Write 20 minutes of code per day;even if you don’t understand it.

[@frankiethefish73]

I'm so glad I learned C as my first language back in 1998, and then Java. Also, C for Dummies was a godsend when the Chinese grad student teaching the course really wasn't the best at explaining the concepts.