Is Joe Bonamassa Right About Jimmy Page?

[@michaeljohnson5648]

I don't trust people who don't like Jimmy Page

[@davidkade4370]

Brilliant!

[@22julip]

@@michaeljohnson5648 what’s there not to like ? Except for these click bait videos , I’ve never heard a bad word about him , in his professional life , there’s been a couple of personal things , that might be a little unsavory, however compared to politicians, and other entertainers, who took advantage of every one that got in their way ,I’m surprised, a lot of people I used to like , found out the truth was not the same as the image , cheers Jimmy P.

[@TheKitchenerLeslie]

Yesterday was his birthday

[@stevegardiner8473]

Agreed.

[@TheLibraryChamber]

makes you a sad person.

[@bobturnley2787]

The thing that made Page and Hendrix stand out from the rest was they weren't worried about "getting it right." Their goal was to get it real. Playing something you weren't going to hear somewhere else. When players try to get it right, they abandon all possibility of originality in their playing.

[@22julip]

Page did both , when he was a studio musician, he was clean and accurate, but by nature he played by feelings and emotion , plus Page said himself said I don’t remember night to night what I played , except for the ones that had a certain lead , like stairway , the middle solo on celebration day , I’ve always said Page and Hendrix are opposite sides of the same coin , also Strat people have distinctive , sound and personality, same as Les Paul , people , I play guitar 44 plus years , and I know what you mean , because I play my own way as well, I play by ear , had some lessons to start , then I played it how I felt it . This is a big topic , Page is unique musician for a number of reasons , even on performances that people call sloppy or he was on drugs , not that much if a factor , 77-80 tours involved music that was more complicated Achilles, ten years , etc , they still played 2-3 hrs , he was still doing all the guitar work , that also can make you sound off , any way great subject, I could go on for hours.

[@jeffreypaulross9767]

Peter Green got it real AND he got it right!

[@bobturnley2787]

@@jeffreypaulross9767 Real must be wrong. Right can't be real.

[@gerryarcher4929]

Page and Hendrix in the same sentence doesn't compute. They both owned guitars. Hendrix knew how to play with soul and tone. Page was just the luckiest player ever.

[@22julip]

@ boy that’s a inelegant response to my 50 plus years of experience, I was actually being kind to Jimi , because where Jimi was a sonic innovator , he didn’t have the talent that Page has, at all facets of the playing, recording , musical styles , acoustic ,Page could play foxy lady , Hendrix couldn’t write or play a Achilles, ten years gone, Kashmir, different leagues, one ability to play great sonic tunes vs. Pages all around guitar army , no comparison there ,

[@JamesPetroff]

I enjoy listening to JP's playing more than anyone else. Period. Enough said.

[@earlgrey691]

His acoustic artistry is also on a different level.

[@joanstone6740]

It's like Eric Johnson is so technically perfect but he is a complete bore to listen to for more than a minute or two i'd much rather hear Jimmy Page be creative and sloppy

[@joemitchell9981]

I disagree. I love listening to Eric Johnson. He isn't a bore and he improvises all the time. I've never seen him play Cliffs of Dover the same way twice. Having said that, I also love Jimmy Page. He is super creative and has his own quirky style. The timing and rhythms of Led Zeppelin are deceptively simple. Even when they play in 4/4 time, the phrasing of Page's playing is really unique and very hard to copy.

[@joanstone6740]

@@joemitchell9981 That's fine I just find his vocals completely insipid and his soloing mostly full of cliches like his famous 5 note pentatonic descending pattern done at blazing speed complete bore for me also the music is just so diatonic and boring but if you like it hey that's great

[@joemitchell9981]

@@joanstone6740 That's weird because I think EJ has a really unique approach to guitar playing. He doesn't play standard patterns. He jumps all over the neck playing unusual and extended note choices. Very different from JP's playing.

[@thebostonbrawler1]

Technical perfection, thats what killed rock n' roll and the guitar solo! techies like Joe Satriani and Steve Vai took guitar soloing to a pinnicle of perfection and it all imploded. Now rock songs have little to no guitar solos.

[@joanstone6740]

@@joemitchell9981 He has his bag of tricks and as I said before I find it to be boring yeah he has those big interval skipping things but it's all just very diatonic and I'm interesting to me and his vocals have just got to stop terrible

[@c.e.anderson558]

Page improvised every concert He played the basic chords but solos were totally on the spur of the moment. Slurry indeed.

[@em001868]

He is the whole package for the time. Producer, writer, musician and visually stimulating too. How could anyone in their right mind play that down.

[@itslikethesamebutdifferent8020]

They’re not playing it down. They’re just mentioning that his sloppiness is part of his style and partly the reason why he sounds the way he sounds.

[@earlgrey691]

A one man Beatles essentially.

[@itslikethesamebutdifferent8020]

@@earlgrey691 except he couldn’t sing and wasn’t much of a lyricist. Plant was a better writer than Page. John Lennon could write and sing and play the guitar and piano and was an excellent lyricist, then you had Paul McCartney who could do all those things and write great melodies. George wasn’t as strong a singer as john and paul but if you see him up onstage playing and singing roll over Beethoven at the Beatles’ 1st US concert in Washington DC, you see he could hold his own, plus he could write great songs, number one singles at that.

[@NolalanD]

@@itslikethesamebutdifferent8020 yeah page was more a music writer, producer, and had help from JPJ who was trained and could arrange. Page was great at what he did honestly. My personal favorite is Physical Graffiti where the music is incredibly detailed and varied. I can't separate his playing from his artistry nor would i want to.

[@earlgrey691]

@@itslikethesamebutdifferent8020 Hence my highest compliment by comparison to the fabs.Well aware of their unsurpassable song writing prowess j just feel JP is the ultimate all rounder,sonic architect and guitarists don't really need to be singers operating as he did at his level.

[@jagmark10]

wow, i'm amazed people still don't get it. Jimmy Page is the guitarist when it comes to rock. he's up there with the best and most important players and he's in that club for a reason, just look back at his story.

[@davederoux3361]

2 year old with a broken hand? I guess Eddie never saw the July 73 MSG show. No quarter, stairway, dazed, that trumps all eddies live playing combined. More depth, imagination and pure inspiration than Eddie could ever muster. Forget the heroin daze from 75 on..give him his just due for his prime playing in 73. We don't judge Mike Tyson for his Jake Paul fight. And as far as sloppy, that's Jimmy's magical slop. It's loaded with character, attitude, and personality.

[@PeterFrayne-o4n]

Jimmys slop was once described by a classical musician of all people as being like brush strokes by renaissance artists. Look up close and it’s untidy, but stand away and look it’s a different picture. Also someone said his riffs are like thunderbolts delivered from the gods.

[@jeper1969]

Eddie was referring to Page’s playing on his 77 tour . And Eddie is right , some of those show page was so strung out that he couldn’t play barely . I’m a big zep fan . But 77 was a bad tour for Jimmy .

[@davederoux3361]

@@jeper1969 absolutely brutal

[@71kevman]

You are high.

[@36karpatoruski]

Every one of the 4 LZ members expressed disappointment in their mediocre performance on the 1973 Madison Sq Garden tour that was recorded for the movie. Source - Stephen Davis, author of Hammer Of The Gods - The Led Zeppelin Saga.

[@JimmiGaso]

James Patrick Page , Hammer of the God .

[@32brookse]

Bonamassa really nailed what makes Jimmy Page a master on guitar. One might even analogize Page's playing with the 'Drunken Master' martial arts style - loose and flowing like water (always on the edge of stumbling) around the instrument and its strings, but ready for precise attack in each moment. This has made Page's playing dynamic and a lot more interesting than most players. I used to play pool (billiards) in exactly the same way, and I was really good.

[@Dan-zq5wt]

That was really well said!

[@dustybrand]

I restore furniture like a Shaolin master so I understand.

[@NolalanD]

you got that window between 2-5 vodkas when the drunken master is in good form.....

[@32brookse]

@@NolalanD I somehow managed it at 5+ (in my youth). As long as I could stand, I could play with mastery. Not sure if Page was that adept. I'll say however that I would never sing or play an instrument in that state. I have too much respect for the music and the audience.

[@TalkLinkMusic-gd7fz]

Well put!

[@ryeguy7471]

Page was and is the greatest guitarist/producer combination in rock history.👍

[@ljpass70]

Listen to page ‘s live shows up to 1975 before the demons kicked dude is flawless live

[@desert-storm-borncharlie11]

I saw him live on the Outrider tour in '89. He was brilliant and spectacular. If I were to guess at all, I'd say the inferred sloppiness comes from him deciding or actually debating what color he wants to put on a particular phrase as it's coming up. When it comes to his improv, I feel like he gets an idea and pursues it, it doesn't always come out the cleanest or most perfect, but you get what he was going for. In his studio work it just doesn't seem to be that way at all, it's all crisp and spot-the-funk-on.

[@ronedee]

As Keith Richards once explained his own playing…”I create colors and textures with my sound.” That pretty much sums up the goals of an original, creative musician.

[@NolalanD]

And JP was a master of that.

[@tonychavez1733]

Nailed it.

[@rdhudon7469]

Never take anything EVH says about other guitar players seriously . He was a tapping one trick pony with mediocre writing and producing skills .

[@samholcombe3129]

Ironic of EVH to criticize Page when he has also said Page was an inspiration of his, I like Ed less every day it seems, and he couldn’t play a soulful solo to save his life unlike Page.

[@lyndoncmp5751]

Agreed. Anyone who thinks Jimmy's playing on Since I've Been Loving You, The Rain Song, No Quarter, Boogie Chillun' etc live at MSG in '73 isn't less than fantastic is quite simply just saying crap to be controversial.

[@samholcombe3129]

@ 💯

[@topteneverything7143]

Page is definitely the most envied guitarist, that's obvious.

[@HurlerHerbert]

In the mandolin world they say the same thing about Bill Monroe. They say he was sloppy etc.. but he along with Earl Scruggs created a whole new type of music. There are only a few that can emulate Bills playing and really nobody can play exactly like him. And he also created timeless monstrous songs.

[@cdswan8943]

I saw Bill Monroe as a guest with Steve Earl shortly before he passed. He didn’t play but he stole the show on stage with Dave Gristman and Norman Blake and Earle. A great memory.

[@andrewbowen6875]

Page just comes up with such fast trick parts. Over the hills and far away has so many neat tricks going on

[@ChockHolocaust]

Like Jimmy Page gives a crap what Joe Bonamassa thinks

[@32brookse]

I imagine he does actually. Bonamassa is one of the best guitarists of all time.

[@jamesfetcho6315]

​@@32brookse😂😂 there is no such thing

[@32brookse]

You mean the Drunken Master style? Bullshit. It's called the Zui Quan or "Drunken Fist". Look it up. Try not opening your mouth to troll and ridicule people on social media unless you actually know what you are talking about - so you don't end up making yourself the one who looks like the fool. 😉 If on the other hand you mean "no such thing" as 'one of the best' guitarists, you are just wrong. There are guitarists who are some of the best who've ever lived. Page, Hendrix, Brian May, Dick Dale, Link Wray, Stevie Ray, Jeff Beck, Mark Knopfler, Eric Gales, etc.

[@Darin.Pearson]

​@jamesfetcho6315 It's a strange phenomenon when using a laugh emoji is considered by the user to be making a point. Rather than what it really is...using a dismissive demeanor as a substitute for having a cogent point of view. Yes, there is such a thing as a list of best guitarists of all time.

[@jamesfetcho6315]

@@Darin.Pearson Well if You are trying to sound intelligent you fail. No there isn't a list that isn't subjective to the time, the type of music, different technique, and many , many other factors. So of your 12, and only listen to one type of music from the last 10 years.....yes there is list.....if Your older, and have listen to guitar player from every time recorded, and many many different styles.....you realize there isn't a list.

[@majorfeelgoodrecords2740]

John Bonham could read Jimmy page like a book, he had him in his pocket 🎼🤘🏻

[@stavmgoo1575]

Jimmy had to parrot other guitar players in the studio for years, lots of times you can't tell it's him because he sounds exactly like the guy that was credited on the recording. Sloppy ? Not a chance.

[@markhaus2830]

Led Zeppelin, Jimmy Page, Madison Square Garden 1973. The Greatest!!! Case Closed!!!!!

[@captainkirk70]

I always wondered if Jimmy was after the soloing of say, Hound Dog Taylor instead of the precise Jeff Beck style. I'm much more attracted to Jimmy or Keith than an Eric or Jeff.

[@blcouch]

EVH became a legend, but he hardly had room to call anyone else sloppy. His whole guitar persona was built on hammer-ons. Without that, he would not have achieved anywhere near the notoriety of Page.

[@71kevman]

Ridiculous statement is ridiculous. It's almost like you never heard any of EVH's rhythm playing. Eddie's rhythm playing is arguably more memorable than his lead work and the guy was full to the brim with swagger and groove.

[@NolalanD]

@@71kevman i don't agree with much of what you've said in these comments but I have to agree with that.

[@CarmineLombardi-e9f]

When someone can write a lead like Stairway to Heaven, Whole Lotta Love etc, I'll keep Jimmy at the Height of heights, additionally he's the coolest ever!

[@Hundert1]

Great video. Thanks so much. Love Jimmy Page ❤️ ❤❤

[@TalkLinkMusic-gd7fz]

Glad you enjoyed it! I've got another vid coming about Jimmy Page and what he did to make Led Zeppelin so different. 😎

[@Hundert1]

@TalkLinkMusic-gd7fz Sounds great 👍 Zep in every way just perfectly ( uncopyable & unduplicable ) captures & creates the quintessential, most true, serious rock music group. From their aura to their style, appearance, mannerisms, etc. 🌲🎶🔔

[@JRriffin]

Page always said he thinks the "odd bits " are what makes it sound good. People who are in Zeppelin tribute bands , nobody captures that raw imagination.

[@Rosemary-m5c8n]

You are totally right😊😊😊😊😊😊😊

[@Rosemary-m5c8n]

You are goddamn right...

[@aganton4977]

Yes. I have been playing guitar for over 40 years. In deed Pages style is very slurry and unpredictable. But the recorded songs are all masterpieces. He was the most adept acoustic and electric rock player ever. His style is steeped in blues and British folk but pretty straightforward. A good player can learn his technique at least as recorded if they try.

[@TalkLinkMusic-gd7fz]

Page himself has called his Zep work a great "primer" for guitarists.

[@lescaster2179]

Page was a sought after session player before his rise to stardom as a live player. His style is based on his incredibly low slung guitar and gun slinger attitude. LZ as a whole was full of changing time signatures and ebb and flow of pace. It was all about 'feel' not about sticking some perfected arrangement. Its exactly WHY they were legends.

[@JAMESGANG-f5u]

Jimmy Pages vast catalog of songs and killer riffs compared to EVH’s is like comparing Mt Everest to a pile of dirt. I know I’d better not ever use EVHs finger tapping as a morning alarm or I’ll end up unemployed 😴💤😴 So….. THERE’s THAT

[@itslikethesamebutdifferent8020]

Wow putting EVH down like that is stupid. EVH elevated rock guitar playing to another level and many guitarists tried to cop his style. Basically all of the 80s guitar sounds were derivative from him. Jimmy Page was great too and he had his own style as well which influenced a lot of guitarists too. Ritchie Blackmore is a better guitarist than Jimmy Page but you won;t hear anyone say Page sounds like shit compared to Blackmore, they had two different styles.

[@71kevman]

Great, another stupid opinion in the YT comments section.

[@lyndoncmp5751]

Outside North America, EVH was never really a big deal.

[@itslikethesamebutdifferent8020]

@@lyndoncmp5751 same can be said about Led Zeppelin. They were never as big to the rest of the world as they were in the US.

[@noctxrnyl8240]

@@itslikethesamebutdifferent8020better guitarist yes better writer. No chance

[@ThomasWBaldwin]

Ten Years After. Ten Years Gone.

[@hkguitar1984]

Jeff Beck AND Jimmy Page are (IMHO) the most difficult to emulate/copy. Great Content, thank you

[@Notes-From-Underground66]

I definitely agree with your comment👍✌️🤙. On a video released in 2018 about Jeff Beck, Jimmy Page said that Jeff has the most complex style of playing the guitar and one must listen to each note because Jeff was going places where no other guitarist had ever been. Jimmy Page was not a sloppy player in my opinion. I loved JP because he could play a vast amount of string instruments; 12&6 string electric and acoustic guitars, mandolin, bass, etc. Jimmy’s 15 second solo on “Whole Lotta Love” just “blow” my mind. A solo of pure bad ass attitude that in 15 seconds “said” more than most other guitarists do in a 15 minutes. Jeff and Jimmy were both very proficient when using a slide or a Wah Wah pedal. RIP Jeff Beck

[@michaelwhitton8226]

Yes

[@JAMESGANG-f5u]

Jimmy Page is sloppy with a guitar in the same way that Denny Dent is sloppy with a paint brush. Imagine some watercolor perfectionist explaining to Denny Dent how he messed up as he looks at Dents work from 12 inches away. Same with Page …. Step back a bit and take another look from a different perspective. The only resemblance of a 2 year old is EVHs behavior through the years.

[@verginithe]

The song remains the same' concert is the greatest guitar playin I've ever seen. If that's 'sloppy' then that's a bunch of bullocks

[@lyndoncmp5751]

Damn right. That's Jimmy at his peak.

[@markhill9275]

Jimmy is light years better than Eddy Von Wanker, Eddy is a complete bore, he even stole tapping!

[@DoctorEnigma01]

Jimmys playing had soul, every live song was a master class in improvisation, the song was a canvas and the guitar his brush, shredders like Eddie Van Halen lack all of that, they’re a xerox, playing the same notes time after time night after night

[@WillDanaher]

It’s clearly much more difficult to create great music than to play great music that’s been created by others. As someone that believes that music really started to go off the rails in the 80s, I’ll stick with the generation that preceded the EVH-inspired trends that followed. Seems like people became more obsessed with speed, dexterity and technique etc. than newly created great music. Everything runs it’s course but I can still listen to 60s and 70s players and music and marvel at it but from the 80s onward I feel that very important aspects were lost and we’re still captured by a descending vortex. Can’t name them all but I’d rather listen to Page, Gilmour, Howe, Hackett, Hendrix, Clapton, Blackmore et al. than what followed. I’ll take a sloppy but musically gifted creator over a technical replicator every time.

[@carywest9256]

Well, if Jimmy woke up today, he's 81 yrs. and a day old. I didn't forget, just being lazy.

[@brownsounddesign]

Later on (late 80s or early 90s), Eddie said Page was a great player. In reference to Eddie's, earlier "sloppy" comment, Page actually toured with a broken finger on his left hand in 1975 after getting it caught in a train door.

[@sonikasoundarts]

Was every word of the voiceover recorded separately?

[@FlavioMOliveira35]

The music Page did is gold, absolute master pieces. About the other guys I can't state the same. I dont know any Bonamassa's song, sound s like blues boutique for me, not the real shit I love. A good guitar solo in a shity music is the same as a cherry in a cake of shit

[@davederoux3361]

@@FlavioMOliveira35 lofl

[@jasoncampbell3955]

Totally agree with Bonamassa.. I think that is the SOUL coming through with Jimmy Page, his phrasing, his signature, his "feel." It's the same thing with Bonham, you have that "human" and "soul" element to their playing which can't be imitated and it just sounds so fucking good! As a drummer, I hear so many players preach accuracy, but the thing is, I can't distinguish their playing from anyone else, plus they don't sound as good as players, such as Bonham.... Jazz often has that great swing and phrasing that just sounds AMAZING.... It's something that seems to elude players who just focus on accuracy and bash players that are supposedly "sloppy."

[@factorybear5264]

Little do the uninitiated know is that the Les Paul is just a fancy reiteration of the Telecaster.

[@Ninjametal]

Other than scale length, 6 inline vs 3x3 peg heads, general construction, neck and headstock tilt, wood materials, aesthetics, electronics, pickup type, fret size, fretboard radius, and control layout, they're virtually identical.

[@factorybear5264]

@@Ninjametal sound was just as twangy when they first came out with single coils and the Telecaster twang can still be created if you know how to use your LP.

[@aminahmed2220]

Awesome video have a great day also a fantastic weekend

[@PocketSunlight]

I think the evolution of songs like Stairway and Dazed & Confused (on the original official live double album) from their studio recordings are testament to Page’s/ the bands approach to this material in a live setting. Bizarre Van Halen didn’t get this but then, who ( other than a jazz band) attempts the evolution of basic songs in a live setting? It takes guts to do so and makes for a more interesting concert as an audience ( I saw Led Zep at Knebworth & the Firm too). I started playing guitar because of Page too!

[@ykmgeedee]

I suppose they are at least in part a jazz band, but to answer your question: Grateful Dead. The music plays the band! Not a musician so I'm not too knowledgeable, but Zep doesn't strike me as having too many jazzy qualities, so that makes their approach that much more remarkable.

[@mrmanch204]

I'd say to those who say he is sloppy..leave him alone. He is an originator, he is extremely eclectic, he has produced some of the most amazing music. I judge a guitarist by his style, if you are listening to a guitarist and you recognise them by their style/sound, then they have made their mark. Think about the likes of, Hendrix, Edge, Beck, Clapton, Kossoff, Blackmore , you know its them.. Bonamassa, Gary Moore, they sound to me a bit like other players at different times. Incidentally, I've found Blackmore the most difficult to copy.

[@chrisyoung448]

Well that’s your problem 😂

[@James-zx1qy]

And that guitar Walsh gave Page came from Lay’s guitar shop in Akron, Ohio via Virgil Lay who had shaved down the beefy neck for Walsh but when Walsh picked it up he found it to be too thin so he kept it and went on with life and touring. Later he showed it to Page who loved it and there you go. I have handmade guitars from Lay’s made by Dan Shin the owner and his brother Joel and they’re second to none in quality and craftsmanship. 😊❤

[@NolalanD]

This is really cool to know thanks! Are they still around?

[@PocketSunlight]

…also have you tried playing the guitar whilst dancing with it? Page mastered that as well!

[@oneofmany1087]

It's all about how many players one has played with. Jimmy played with Jeff Beck in the early days. it is like a trade worker who works with a bunch of different people. each Pearson brings a new trick. some tricks one adds or not to one's style

[@MarkSouza-bh6sv]

Listening about our heros being rated by their peers is the ultimate information music fans can get; most of us love our guitar heros because of feelings; WTF do we know;Finding out their deficiencies through being critiqued by peers that really know is heartbreaking,but shouldn’t change a damn thing; where were you the first time you heard and how did you feel when you first heard your heros? That’s what music is for! The criticism can be true, but not mean a damn thing; My guitar hero is Dave Meniketti from Y&T but I don’t mind knowing he’s not quite as technical as EVH and others…..

[@TalkLinkMusic-gd7fz]

Good points....

[@johnp6167]

Been playing guitar for more than 35 years. Page played in the studio for hours, he had all the time in the world to be precise. He could be accurate/note perfect, but his chops where blues based. It's more emotion than technique.

[@missionrd100]

I always thought Joe Perry could emulate Jimmy Page.

[@flazjsg]

Joe came up with some great riffs. Not the player Page was overall.

[@JoeandAngie]

Joe had to have Dick Wagner and Steve Hunter play many of his leads on their early lps. Joe's average.

[@stevenelms5524]

Page was one of the most well rounded guitarists ...being a studio artist and him being a producer also and a good one opened his range of sounds he could get out his guitars ...not only playing but mixing of sound effects on tape ..his range was very broad due to his exploring new sounds playing and arrangeing. Does not hurt being surrounded by equally talented band mates!

[@stevieflax]

Like-I-could-give-loaf-what-Joe-thinks.

[@huckfinn4686]

This is why i love frank zappa, improvising every solo live. Makes every show unique. Gotta have big balls to risk making mistakes like that. And they do happen, franks in a bad mood the show sucks. But then you also get some of the most unbelievable incredible shows ever as well. I wish more players today had the balls of the greats like zappa and page etc.

[@Davetv1121]

Jimmys best live playing was ‘68 to ‘73. Most likely substance abuse led to his playing going down in mid to late 70s Yes he had a loose playing style, but he still was more accurate earlier in zeps career. In the studio he was able to go back and clean up any mistakes. I saw him in 1983 at the Arms concert and again in 1998 on the Page/Plant tour. His playing got better as he was sober.

[@lyndoncmp5751]

80% of Led Zeppelin's concerts were in the 1968-1973 period too. 🙂👍

[@vvblues]

Exhibit A: Listen to Paul Gilbert play Jimmy Page solos. Super articulate player trying to mimic a looser player. JP is hard nail.

[@TalkLinkMusic-gd7fz]

Great point! If it was all about technique there's be a million Jimmy's, but there's only one!

[@midnitetokerj7961]

what made him the goat was that he wrote the music as well as play it!

[@kellydonnelly7828]

Page is an off the cuff player. He get's it. That's where the soul of the performance is. When I was engineerimg an Eric Johnson record, I worked with Andy Johns. He claimed the solo on Since I've Been Loving You was a first pass. He recorded it. JP's genius. Yes I'm E.J's engineer. I like both players for what they offer.

[@thebostonbrawler1]

Bonnamasso is way to kind to his peer. Glad to have them all alive and playing.

[@SimpleManGuitars1973]

I play tons of Zeppelin songs and I can absolutely tell you that he's extremely hard to emulate and especially if you try to play really accurately in general. Jeff Beck is the absolute MOST impossible but Jimmy Page is incredibly hard to nail. Joe Perry said the thing he loved about Jimmy was "he wrote solos he could almost play". LOL! Oddly enough, Joe probably reminds me more of Jimmy than anybody else. Joe is pretty unorthodox as well.

[@sgt.grinch3299]

I never thought Jimmy was sloppy. For the past 50 years I have always said that he was always reaching for the next note or sound. He is untouchable.

[@IdealX-fr4eg]

I agree he was very deliberate if you listen to his acoustic stuff much of it is crisp and clean.

[@Leit2290]

Today I learned Les Paul has a narrow neck….idk are we comparing to a giraffe neck?

[@uspsdaveable]

Joe wasn’t the first person to say this about Page, does it matter….no , just enjoy the music……..

[@jakemore2024]

Stars are Stars cuz the are Stars

[@Relayer6a]

Joe is right. And Jimmy IMO is the most influential guitarist since maybe Chuck Berry.

[@WithCarePlz]

Jimmy Page was my earliest guitar hero as a child. That being said, no he’s not that hard to emulate. The hardest guitarist to emulate is Jerry Garcia. I’ve spent years studying him now, and adding “jerry-isms” to my playing, such as the little chromatic fluttery things, the way he would play off the vocal melody of the song and play vocally, the way he would do those big descending runs thru different octaves. He’s the hardest person to emulate if you want to add your own original you-ness to his playing. Page isn’t that hard to emulate, just play filthy blues licks and add little Aeolian notes from time to time. The hardest page-ism to emulate is his time feel. Because the way he would weave in and out and around syncopation with Bonham was nuts. Time feel is what makes Jimmy hard to emulate. A great example of this is “The Ocean”, the time feel of that song is super hard to nail because it changes repeatedly each time you do that riff. But no, it’s much harder to emulate Garcia. And bobby for that matter. But trying to emulate Garcia is like playing lead, rhythm, banjo, and singing with your guitar all at the same time while being relaxed about it

[@flazjsg]

I disagree. I've listened to thousands of hours of GD. Frankly, Jerry noodled a lot - so most guitarists wouldn't want to imitate him. He made a ridiculous amount of mistakes throughout their career. All that being said, I like Jerry's playing best around 1983. The JGB show at Roseland Ballroom to me, is some of his best playing. But Jerry was out of it a lot of the time and not in a good way. At his best, he was a wonderful player - but it wasn't everyone's cup of tea. The guys in DSO over the years do a good job with his style. At his best, Jerry had a limitless amount of ideas and was very articulate. I've seen Johnny Winter do the same thing - take 10 minutes worth of solos in the blues vein and keep it interesting but I digress...But since Jerry's been the most recorded guitarist (in all likelihood) of all time, his bad nights and moments are out there as well for all to see and hear. I'm not a fan of his playing post the coma. I think he was best from 1978 through 83, although he played some great stuff throughout his career. Not a big fan of his late-60s playing apart from the great Dark Star captured on LP. Funny enough, Jimmy Page said that he loved Jerry's pedal steel playing but didn't care for his 6-string playing.

[@WithCarePlz]

@ jerry almost never noodled… that’s a comment that really identifies who actually listens from who repeats internet attacks. Jerry was not a noodler. Jerry was about the most musical improviser in the history of rock music. There’s a difference between playing for a long time and noodling

[@WithCarePlz]

@ it’s pretty clear to me that you’re a listener rather than a guitar player, no offense

[@flazjsg]

@@WithCarePlz You can believe what you want. He meandered a lot to my ears and to a lot of other people's. Some of Jerry's playing sounded like bad scale exercises - Al DiMeola at 8 rpms. When you resort to insulting my ears, you lost the argument.

[@flazjsg]

@@WithCarePlz When you get a chance, post a link to your "easy Jimmy Page" playing. I'd love to check it out.

[@kel72ong]

I play the guitar n hv seen n listened to page live n his recorded studio works 4 quite awhile. Truth b told, i hv never understood exactly y page is said 2 b "sloppy" 🤷‍♂️. N my guess is 99% of the listeners wd hv no idea whatsover if page is sloppy or not. Only those highly skilled 1% wd b able 2 notice the "sloppiness" perhaps 🤔🤷‍♂️. The rest of us 99% .... guitarist or not..... just 2 busy enjoying n marvelling at page's guitar mastery .

[@JoeandAngie]

Write like you have a brain. Those abbreviations are infantile and your message is lost.

[@ibji]

If you recall, the live album, The Song Remains The Same, Jimmy had to re-record some of the guitar parts. No big deal.

[@MerlinCrowley77]

Good original music is rare and precious. Page used to love to really catch a buzz before a concert. It helps deal with the massive rush of the audience volume. I have seen Eddie Van Halen suck, too. Only Rush played like the record every time.

[@tonydeaton1967]

Anyone can go listen to Dazed and Confused, from The Song Remains the Same, and find out what Jimmy Page was all about.

[@Dave_Wight_The_Rock_Oracle]

did he say he was a sloppy B leaguer live but really good in the studio? So doing my Q &A with Andrew Klein, Randy Rhoads coffee table book, Randy was a fan of Page, Page went backstage after a Quiet Riot show to meet Randy he was impressed.

[@wildrideron]

First thing. I usually do not watch these type videos, because usually its someone bashing Jimmy Page as a lazy guitarist and never has anything good to say about him or his guitar playing. So, To hear someone like Joe Bonamassa say correctly about Jimmys guitar playing and giver him credit for his works, Makes me extremely happy. And I wish I could thank Joe in person for NOT disrespecting Jimmy Page, like the way EVH has always done. There are 2 guitar players I give all the respect in the world. And that is Jimmy Page (Who changed my life when he became Led Zeppelin) And Randy Roads, who I wish had lived because I would have loved to see what he became later in life. He was ALWAYS trying to improve his talent. He really wanted to be a classical guitarist. And I miss him greatly, as does Ozzy. Anyway. Thank you for this POSITIVE video of the man I think is the greatest musician of the Rock and Roll era. I know, the Beatles changed rock and roll, but Jimmy changed Rock and Roll forever. There was nothing like LZ when they came out, and there has never been anything close to them since. Again, Thank you. Ron Jarvis 71 yrs young and still listening to the greatest band of all time, every day.

[@TalkLinkMusic-gd7fz]

Thanks Ron, that's an excellent take! Luv the Randy Rhoads observation. 👍😎😎

[@jerrysilver4858]

Jimmy Page is good, and Joe Bonamassa is a great guitarist! I have seen them both and love Bonamassa. I'm 70, so I grew up on Zeppelin and all of the early 60s rock!

[@TalkLinkMusic-gd7fz]

I've seen Joe live he was amazing!! I love that you've seen both live! 😎

[@jacquelinechellis4036]

I did get into Page but i found it was better to play with his attitude and boldness To improvise and have your own riffs is good for your own self. Everyone is unique so be unique.

[@thebluesrockers]

Jimmy Page had some serious addictions in the 70's. John Paul Jones had a shit ton to do with the Zeppelin sound. He wrote the riff to "Black Dog" and did most of the work on "In Through The Outdoor" Go listen to John Paul Jones's album "Zoomba" and then go listen to Jimmy Page & Robert Plant's album "Walking Into Clarksdale" Then you tell me who had the most Classic, Zeppelin sound?

[@stratwrassler]

Jimmy Page was very influential in grabbing my ears attention and motivating me to learn and play rock guitar. For a while I became a "technical" snob and was critical or Page's "sloppy" playing, but over the decades I have really come to appreciate how musical and expressive he was while playing for the song production, not to impress other guitar players. And he's one of my favorite rock riff masters of all time, along with Keith Richards, Malcom Young and Toni Iommi. I also find it hard to copy much of his playing note for note.

[@robertschiffhauer1679]

I can play Jimmy Page,Kieth Richards,Hendrix,🎸🔥✌️

[@keithgallagher3471]

Page was always known as being a sloppy guitarist. I had always thought it was the booze and drugs. If you listen to some of the YT vids where they isolate different parts of Zep's songs, you can really hear the slop in Page's playing. What also stood out for me is how simple some of his guitar parts were, and how when they get layered in during the production process the songs become like a Persian rug, where the individual threads of ach part in the music turns into a wonderful piece of work when put together. Both Page and Jones had pretty significant experience in music production when Zep was formed, and I think that is where both of their musical genius really came into play. I came onto Zep late in their run, with my first album by them was Out Door because Fool in the Rain was on the radio at the time. They quickly became one of my favorite bands and remain so to this day.

[@TheLibraryChamber]

Guys like Morse or Johnson technically and proficiency blow Page away. Sorry Page was sloppy. If he had not been a foundational rock musician, he would have been considered really good. Having said that, love listening.

[@TalkLinkMusic-gd7fz]

Logical enough. I think one tricky thing about Page is he actually has various phases as a guitarist. Some are more fascinating than others. Sometimes he's rock solid, sometimes he's too wasted to play. I think he's put everything he can into the guitar and it's beautiful to see. 😎😎 And hear!

[@32brookse]

To see a really good video interview with Bonamassa about how he gets his sound (and how he ditched most of his effects pedals) look up "Joe Bonamassa recreates legendary tones - in a toilet!" on KZbin.

[@Winstonrodney6989]

Page will always be a master and an innovator of electric guitar. He was also sloppy live. Simple as that. No need for people to get upset about it.

[@stephenpaquet]

Jimmy page takes a lot of heat because he doesn’t play the solo on “Heartbreaker” the same way as on the album. He only did it like the album a couple of times live after that it’s a hard no. I read a great article in guitar world where he came for an interview and they were joking about maybe one day I’ll play the solo like on the album, to big chuckles. He then carried on to say, but that’s not the way I play I like to keep it fresh always experimenting, always reaching.

[@bnoteVel]

I, like yourself my friend, have the odd ability to mimic JPL or rather I play rather loosely, ready to go where the muse takes me and it isn't always graceful. At times its downright atrocious! However, this is the price one pays for the spontaneity of improvisational greatness when the Gods smile down upon us. What a great little exploration this is on what I consider the greatest 6 string Alchemist to have ever walked the Earth. EVH r.i.p pales so shallow against the depth and multitudes of JPLs talents. How unfortunate he had to be such a jealous arse as well.Great job young Man!

[@TalkLinkMusic-gd7fz]

Excellent comments! I Appreciate your support! I'm not actually young, tho, just have a young sounding voice! 😎

[@contemposuits1983]

I have listened to a ton of LZ bootlegs throughout the years and one thing remains certain, JP never played a solo or even the song, for that matter, the same way twice.

[@melody6840]

I agree with Joe.. Jimmy did do some interesting things on his instrument which made him unique..guitar playing shouldn’t be a competition it is an art form so the beauty lies in the ears of the listener…

[@TassIan77]

Jimmy Page put the bar so high, even he couldn't reach it anymore.

[@jemsnowdon]

Of the old masters Ritchie Blackmore is the outstanding player.EVH is god of the guitar.

[@ljpass70]

Page was all heart fart notes and all he poured it all out

[@green461]

Playing a guitar is not an art form. Art is what is created with it. If you play by the book and think there is a precise method you have to follow , and cant create, you are a player, not an artist. So many people dont know the difference between an artist and a player. Learning note for note, following scales, theory, so many people can do..... create masterpieces your own way only few can. Those are artists. Being a master player that is also an artist.... you get the greats.. Hendrix, SRV, Page, VanHalen, Walsh, Clapton, Moore, Fogerty, Bettencourt, Vai, ....etc.. Playing out of the box is why we know their songs 50+ years later.

[@gto1607]

You can't compare Jimmy and Eddie. Two completely different players with different things on their minds.

[@BeatSyncBytes]

Only one equal to him is Blackmore. Jimmy Page had speed listen to I cant quit you babe blues version it has some fast chops and also heartbreaker second solo has speed

[@marvelherman419]

Its funny everyone makes fun of him but everytime they play one of his songs they sound really bad or stale. My interpretation of Page is that his experience developed a feel for the meter. That feel is where he puts strikes of rhythm over the beat. If you contemplate a drum flam as one then realizing iits impossible to play in the middle of a beat. A click track may sync cadence yes. There is how a beat is heard and felt verses what its math is. You could play a note on the beat before the beat or right after and still be in time. The clef could be reversed. Its where Page places his sound over the beat. If its just ahead or just behind or right on top. Some players are aware of this. Keith Richards puts his parts in a weird spot in the music. Most people think one way is correct but the swing of cadence is why so sounds so alive. Sure Van Halen sounds great but he interprets music to be with a generalized cadence. On another note simple patterns could be subdivided into polyrhythms. A drummer can do this but instrumentalists can as well. A player can play in five and another seven. You have seven fives and five sevens for the sequence. Herein a normal meter is produced by the accents. Contemplating this dialogue is a type of quintessence for lack of a better word. The interplay between the subdivision and accent meter with respect to melody becomes difficult. Without any musical knowledge one can get a sense of the meaning without meaning.

[@Jm-Gonz]

Page was also pretty wasted most of the time live and just went with how he felt in the moment There was so much improvisation every night

[@howarddenney5331]

I think when he played live he didnt try to be perfect like he would in the studio. Thats why i like studio version better unless you are there live. Plus you dont get all the mixing when its live

[@lyndoncmp5751]

He gave us more when playing live. He was always trying to strike for the moon on stage. Sometimes he messed up, other times he improved on the studio version. No Quarter and The Rain Song from MSG in '73 for example.