Is KRISTOFF the PERFECT MAN? Relationship Therapist talks FROZEN 2

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@warriorcatthings2612
@warriorcatthings2612 4 жыл бұрын
"You can't disagree with an emotion" My mom begs to differ
@elizabethgrinningson7730
@elizabethgrinningson7730 4 жыл бұрын
My dad too
@Bllue
@Bllue 4 жыл бұрын
lol do we have the same mom?
@Charlie-hl7jr
@Charlie-hl7jr 4 жыл бұрын
My older sister too. “You’re just CHOOSING to feel that way about it, you can change how you feel about stuff like that!”
@warriorcatthings2612
@warriorcatthings2612 4 жыл бұрын
@@Charlie-hl7jr my mom is always like "Stop lying! You aren't sad!"
@DarkestElemental616
@DarkestElemental616 4 жыл бұрын
We all have terrible parents.
@thelastasmrchannel5734
@thelastasmrchannel5734 4 жыл бұрын
"My love is not fragile" Man, I don't remember that line from the movie but given this new context it's so AMAZING 🥺
@MendedLight
@MendedLight 4 жыл бұрын
So, so good.
@CinemaTherapyShow
@CinemaTherapyShow 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much!
@starlight3ag414
@starlight3ag414 4 жыл бұрын
i know right!
@sofiagarrahan395
@sofiagarrahan395 4 жыл бұрын
Absolutely❤️
@Cesia_B
@Cesia_B 4 жыл бұрын
For me is the :"I'm here, what do you need?" ❤️ I already thought he was the cutest with the first movie, but that line just made him one of my top 10!
@r0bean
@r0bean 3 жыл бұрын
"you can't disagree with emotions" well let me introduce you to my mother
@CinemaTherapyShow
@CinemaTherapyShow 3 жыл бұрын
Oh man. I feel that.
@sydneyd2094
@sydneyd2094 3 жыл бұрын
Sameeee
@Raven-Jomi
@Raven-Jomi 3 жыл бұрын
this is why I go to therapy
@r0bean
@r0bean 3 жыл бұрын
@@Raven-Jomi same lmao
@starcycle4308
@starcycle4308 3 жыл бұрын
Yep. Accurate.
@magpie322
@magpie322 4 жыл бұрын
I mean, he was raised by the "relationship experts"
@maggieb.
@maggieb. 4 жыл бұрын
Lmao, I didn't remember that but your so right!
@karinh2501
@karinh2501 4 жыл бұрын
Best comment here! 😂 Thank you
@adri-bee1268
@adri-bee1268 4 жыл бұрын
Sorry, could you explain?
@magpie322
@magpie322 4 жыл бұрын
@@adri-bee1268 in the first movie, he refers to the trolls that raised him as the relationship experts
@adri-bee1268
@adri-bee1268 4 жыл бұрын
@@magpie322 ah :D cool! I also want to be raised by ones! :)
@Iamtk777
@Iamtk777 3 жыл бұрын
I actually really appreciate Kristoff saying "I'm not really comfortable with that." He is gently but firmly expressing a boundary! Sven and his wagon are basically everything he has (not to mention his best friend/pet), and he's not comfortable with the idea of Elsa taking them. But he /is/ comfortable with it when he is there as well.
@emberhermin52
@emberhermin52 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah I feel like they misinterpreted that
@Al3saMarie
@Al3saMarie 2 жыл бұрын
Same
@bumbabees
@bumbabees 2 жыл бұрын
plus the way she said it was a little concerning lmao
@ViktorErikFade
@ViktorErikFade 2 жыл бұрын
Yes! Healthy Compromise for the win Especially given he looks at his pet like family and Elsa made it sound like she may not return him lol
@chunermay6957
@chunermay6957 2 жыл бұрын
TURE
@nacienunbarco
@nacienunbarco 3 жыл бұрын
The fact that the perfect guy was raised by a bunch of rocks says a lot about Disney’s portrayal of parents.
@hnichole
@hnichole 3 жыл бұрын
Underrated comment. 😂
@sydneyd2094
@sydneyd2094 3 жыл бұрын
Not all good men are raised by good parents
@nacienunbarco
@nacienunbarco 3 жыл бұрын
@@sydneyd2094 we're not discussing that here.
@nacienunbarco
@nacienunbarco 3 жыл бұрын
@@sydneyd2094 just saying, as a stepmom I believe Disney's portrayal of parental figures is lame in the best cases.
@ohwell6364
@ohwell6364 3 жыл бұрын
I agree. They do have some good father figures but usually they aren’t actually the father. That is often realistic but it would be nice to see more healthy parental relationships. There are some but there could be more
@ebonysilvrwhite7484
@ebonysilvrwhite7484 4 жыл бұрын
This reminds me of something I saw on reddit that my boyfriend and I are trying to implement. It's where one of you is upset or going through something and the other will ask, "Do you need help fixing it or do you just need me to listen."
@BonaparteBardithion
@BonaparteBardithion 4 жыл бұрын
That's actually a really good idea. I have issues communicating with my dad and most of it stems from one of us offering suggestions to help when the other just wanted to get it off their chest. As a result, the first person now doesn't feel heard because their suggestions were put aside. I think if we threw in that question at some point it would set the tone for the entire conversation.
@kal-muzel875
@kal-muzel875 4 жыл бұрын
This question reminded me of a parenting tip I've read(not word for word) "do you want to talk or do you need a hug?" It helps the child know and be aware that it is okay to be sad, need a hug, not everything needs that quick fix or bring told to stop crying and work through things at that moment (I think it might have been sad or hurt? And if they are sad you give them a hug)
@colonelsanders8065
@colonelsanders8065 4 жыл бұрын
Yes! I had a talk with my bf on how I felt he was always trying to fix my problems and he started asking that question too. I often say, “just listen to me complain and be here for me”.
@IriaTHaze
@IriaTHaze 4 жыл бұрын
In fact, that's related to "I'm here, what do you need?" When someone is in distress, I've learned to ask "What can I do to make you feel better?". That can be anything from listening to getting them some hot cocoa or helping them make a strategy to solve the problem.
@lukedodson3267
@lukedodson3267 4 жыл бұрын
Another good example of this is the Parks & Rec episode where Chris Traeger stops trying to solve all of Anne's complaints and just learns to empathize.
@loverlei79
@loverlei79 4 жыл бұрын
Kristof saying "my love is not fragile" Reminds me of the second date that never was in my life. I had just reunited with an old guy friend and we hit it off immediately. We made plans for a real second date but it was cancelled due to an extreme blizzard. I was crushed and told him my disappointment thinking to myself he wouldn't reschedule (many past hurts from other guys). He replied, "What did you think this was a one time thing? We'll see each other again." I was like the Grinch that day. My heart grew 10x bigger. And guess what? I married him. We're on year 10.
@yeseniatecaxco7545
@yeseniatecaxco7545 4 жыл бұрын
my heart just burst from your adorable story thank you I am going to lie down now lol
@g.strobl4458
@g.strobl4458 4 жыл бұрын
Congrats!
@creativemuse33
@creativemuse33 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing this lovely story! 💖💖💖
@its_a_zany_day10
@its_a_zany_day10 3 жыл бұрын
Awww that's so sweet! 😍
@monikmarenco2001
@monikmarenco2001 3 жыл бұрын
WHAT?! This comment makes me so happy
@caidalee1994
@caidalee1994 3 жыл бұрын
I gasped out loud in the theater at “I’m here. What do you need?”. After 25 years of watching movies, I’ve grown up with men “coming to the rescue” and saying things like “I’ve got this, stand back” my entire life. These things were said to women who didn’t need any help (usually until that very moment) by men who were always the main love interest. This “stand back, a man is here to handle the tough stuff, so you don’t have to worry” attitude was normal, even if you didn’t like it. To hear a male love interest tell his female love interest that he’ll follow her lead because she obviously has a plan and he just wants to help her succeed? It was eye-opening. I’m so happy children are growing up with this sort of love interest instead of the shut-up-and-kiss-me ones I did.
@grinko1222
@grinko1222 2 жыл бұрын
Meh. Literally his entire character is just being Anna's love interest. Not that great.
@caidalee1994
@caidalee1994 2 жыл бұрын
@@grinko1222 That’s okay. We don’t have to have had the same reaction or experience 👍
@rrrrrfffff
@rrrrrfffff 2 жыл бұрын
@@grinko1222 aaaand being Sven's best friend
@YuniX2
@YuniX2 2 жыл бұрын
@@grinko1222 Honestly, after a lifetime of movies where the female character literally just exists to be the man's love interest, I'm not so bothered by a single movie that does the opposite.
@grinko1222
@grinko1222 2 жыл бұрын
@@YuniX2 Fine, but still awful writing. Turns out these writers haven't learned a damn thing when it comes to writing male characters.
@Jemini4228
@Jemini4228 4 жыл бұрын
"what do you need?" "My love is not fragile". Swoon! Kristoff might just be my fave Disney love interest ever!
@CinemaTherapyShow
@CinemaTherapyShow 4 жыл бұрын
Totally. We're right there with you.
@neelsbhat7482
@neelsbhat7482 4 жыл бұрын
Second to Flynn Rider but a very close second💜💜
@morganqorishchi8181
@morganqorishchi8181 4 жыл бұрын
There's also a moment in the tie-in book for the first movie, when he thinks Anna is in love with Hans, where Kristoff thinks to himself, "Real love wouldn't be asking her to choose." He prioritized Anna's needs even when they had only spent a little bit of time together and he had a crush on her. Her happiness has ALWAYS come first for him.
@morganrakes4184
@morganrakes4184 4 жыл бұрын
@@neelsbhat7482 Eh okay like Flynn is a nicely developed character but he still emotionally manipulated Rapunzel and flirted with her when she was underage. He also purposely put her through situations she knew she’d be terrified in just to gain something from it. Again I love his character cause he grows but Kristoff definitely wins in my book!
@emberowl3718
@emberowl3718 4 жыл бұрын
@@morganrakes4184 Have you watched Tangled - The Series, though? I agree that in the movie, he does that since his agenda doesn't line up with Rapunzel's, but A) Rapunzel isn't entirely blameless in this and B) he _changes._ And if you watch their relationship unfold in TTS it's just... mindblowing. They're not flawless, neither of them, but there's no forced drama, they grow from their mistakes, and you just _feel_ how much they love each other, how happy with and supportive of each other they are, and it's soooooo amazing! Especially considering the literary hellscape the romance genre is these days, seeing such a healthy relationship is just about the best thing ever. 100/10, would recommend!
@DrMaikaSteinborn
@DrMaikaSteinborn 4 жыл бұрын
Great analysis! When I watched the movie, my favorite part was also when Kristoff says "I'm here, what do you need."
@MendedLight
@MendedLight 4 жыл бұрын
Me too!
@CinemaTherapyShow
@CinemaTherapyShow 4 жыл бұрын
Kristoff is awesome.
@RoseCadenza
@RoseCadenza 4 жыл бұрын
I know! That statement alone stuck out so much. Every man should be like this.
@Leovwin
@Leovwin 4 жыл бұрын
The movie was emotional alright, but that line made me cry so hard.
@YouCantKillMyDream
@YouCantKillMyDream 4 жыл бұрын
Kinda wanna see them react to “get this right” that was pulled from the movie - feel like it’s the perfect song to describe their relationship
@skyhideaway
@skyhideaway 3 жыл бұрын
FINALLY someone who appreciates Kristoff as a character! I've always seen people praising Eugene or Naveen, even Hans for some reason, but people hardly recognize Kristoff as a worthy character. I liked him from the first movie itself. He was the voice of reason to Anna's impulsive and kinda stupid nature. He was pissed at her the first time, but he admired the drive in her and also respected her privacy. Even though Elsa was dangerous, he let Anna go to her alone and only came to her rescue after the fight. Obviously, that didn't benefit Anna, but he did what was right. He also respects the fact that she already loves someone, even though he has feelings for her too. I felt like it was a bit weird that Anna immediately turned to Kristoff and accepted him after realizing Hans was a dick. But the second time I watched it, we see throughout the movie that Anna did show signs of liking Kristoff more, being more at home with him and even questioning the fact that she doesn't know Hans as well. Frozen 2 is one of my least favorite movies, but Kristoff is the only factor that I really liked in it. Anna's and Elsa's sibling dynamic isn't really that good and the whole family history was kinda boring to me. Kristoff was the only sane man in crazytown. He's a perfect example of a man who doesn't live by toxic masculine standards.
@hermiliocarvalhojr.7208
@hermiliocarvalhojr.7208 2 жыл бұрын
It seems that Anna is the "toxic" person in the relationship.
@skyhideaway
@skyhideaway 2 жыл бұрын
@@hermiliocarvalhojr.7208 Yeah, it does really seem like that. She's way too preoccupied with her sister.
@OJorEm
@OJorEm 2 жыл бұрын
I - what, people praised HANS??!?!!
@skyhideaway
@skyhideaway 2 жыл бұрын
@@OJorEm rather than praise, they simp for him and also shipped him with Elsa for some reason Like I don't understand what goes on in these people's heads lmao
@Robzeke
@Robzeke 2 жыл бұрын
@@skyhideaway She's toxic because she's worried about her sister, whose going on some dangerous, epic journey full of magic and elementals? What?? Of course she's preoccupied with her sister lol
@ame-chan579
@ame-chan579 4 жыл бұрын
Moral of the story: Trolls are excellent parental figures to men and they raise healthy males (at least in this reality).
@pixiethealienkitty1894
@pixiethealienkitty1894 4 жыл бұрын
😂
@kookyplatypus4571
@kookyplatypus4571 4 жыл бұрын
Behind all that singing and calling there son smelly are really great parents.
@windtoons5295
@windtoons5295 3 жыл бұрын
Lol!
@kevinlively7804
@kevinlively7804 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the compliment on my parenting!
@js66613
@js66613 3 жыл бұрын
Males... but they terrified the heck out of Elsa. So clearly they're not as good with daughters. XD
@Starchilddancer14
@Starchilddancer14 4 жыл бұрын
Kristoff won for me in the first Frozen by being the ONLY disney man in history to ASK PERMISSION to kiss the heroine.
@ninavinterova9875
@ninavinterova9875 4 жыл бұрын
Unlike the Sleeping Beauty and Snow White princes who kissed sleeping girls, smh
@spate7207
@spate7207 4 жыл бұрын
@@ninavinterova9875 Ikr like what happened to consent...? You're not meant to kiss or touch anyone when you can't actually ask them :O
@Nexils
@Nexils 4 жыл бұрын
@@ninavinterova9875 I agree in Snow White's case. The prince basically kissed a corpse surrounded by dwarfs in the woods without any good reason at all. In sleeping beauty it was well established that he had to kiss her to save her and the rest of the kingdom. And I would rather be kissed by someone I met once without my consent, than stay unconscious for the rest of my life.
@ninavinterova9875
@ninavinterova9875 4 жыл бұрын
@@Nexils True
@ninavinterova9875
@ninavinterova9875 4 жыл бұрын
@Dee’s World Haven't seen
@GirlMeetsSunshine
@GirlMeetsSunshine 2 жыл бұрын
I love that they gave Kristoff a normaly-it-would-have-been-a-girl-singing-this-song song! It shows that boys and men can very well feel emotions and be vulnerable AND comfortable with that. It does so much for the perceiption of men in general. We deserve a fully mature and emotionally available man in our lives (or partner in general). I'm settling for nothing less.
@satisfiedconsumer649
@satisfiedconsumer649 2 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately that will require that men get treated like human beings first, which will never be allowed to happen
@monabohamad2242
@monabohamad2242 2 жыл бұрын
@@satisfiedconsumer649 unfortunately that will require that ALL WOMEN get to be treated as feeling living breathing human beings first which will never be allowed to happen MEN already have that since like FOREVER AGES AGO
@guilhermelisboa1857
@guilhermelisboa1857 2 жыл бұрын
Both of the responses really show whats wrong with Society.
@satisfiedconsumer649
@satisfiedconsumer649 2 жыл бұрын
@@guilhermelisboa1857 Then why don't you go do something about it?
@rangers94ism
@rangers94ism 2 жыл бұрын
@@monabohamad2242 If you are going to go Disney Princess vs Prince, even the worst written Princess has more personality than any prince. The prince is there to kiss the girl and get married. Wow. Riveting. Or boring. The Princess gets the movie named after her, the entire story is completely about her, she gets an arch, all of the creatures of the Earth adore her, and she gets a song where she expresses her inner most thoughts. So what were you saying again about how men get treated more like human beings? How about you get your facts straight before you post something as off as this.
@trenae77
@trenae77 4 жыл бұрын
Kristoff's "I'm not comfortable with that" is even perfect in its own right. He's not saying "No" he's not saying "That's not a good idea". He's saying, "I don't feel right about this." The funny me says he doesn't want Sven going into danger without him. The serious part says, "I'm not comfortable with you facing this alone". So when Ana voices the same thing, essentially, he's able to step forward and say "I'll Drive" without wholly overriding Elsa's wishes; rather he's supporting Ana's proposal.
@lokiisbestantihero
@lokiisbestantihero 3 жыл бұрын
*Anna
@clairewilley361
@clairewilley361 3 жыл бұрын
I statement:)
@18Hongo
@18Hongo 3 жыл бұрын
Hey - he grew up with Sven; not wanting him to go into danger without him is perfectly reasonable. Also; does Elsa know how to drive a cart? I wouldn't be too comfortable lending my car to someone when I've never seen them drive. Neither Kristoff nor myself would be too keen on losing a sister-in-law to a car/cart crash.
@trenae77
@trenae77 3 жыл бұрын
@@18Hongo no argument at all. It’s not that I felt wrong with Kristoff expressing his feelings and concerns; if anything I felt he was spot on. Yes, he’s worried for Sven, but he also knows that individuals have to make their own decisions.
@trenae77
@trenae77 3 жыл бұрын
@@lokiisbestantihero spellcheck recognizes both as correct and the author was posting at night. Thank you for the polite acknowledgment. 😄
@Itsumi_Nyanko
@Itsumi_Nyanko 4 жыл бұрын
He even is the first disney guy to "ask" if it was ok to kiss her. He is a great exemple to show how we all should act went starting relationship. First kiss should be asks for...not forced or by surprised.
@robocart9253
@robocart9253 4 жыл бұрын
@@aki9059 at first asking is fine, but if you have to ask every. single. time. Something isn't right, something isn't clicking, the trust isn't there anymore, or maybe it hasn't been from the start. although in this case, it was asking for the first kiss, which is fine and shows you care for their input and opinion on the matter.
@robocart9253
@robocart9253 4 жыл бұрын
@@aki9059 it wasn't? My bad, haven't watched the film in a hot minute. Either way consent for a simple kiss show respect during the first stages but restraint and distance later on, and that's what I tried to say :P
@msaijay1153
@msaijay1153 4 жыл бұрын
@@aki9059 it was their first kiss in the first frozen. Trust me, I'm a frozen expert (really I'm just a mom with a two year old who loves frozen)
@Itsumi_Nyanko
@Itsumi_Nyanko 4 жыл бұрын
My point was that CONSENT is really important in a relationship and this validation, either by the body language or by words of the other party, applies to the whole relationship duration ...even if after 1 , 3 or even 13 years, if i'm in a bad mood, my partner will ASK if he can hug or kiss me.
@Holli.wood1k
@Holli.wood1k 4 жыл бұрын
@@Itsumi_Nyanko wtf...
@JohnFiala
@JohnFiala 2 жыл бұрын
I love Anna’s line when Elsa is refusing to let her come. “Excuse me I climbed the north mountain, survived a frozen heart, and saved you from my ex boyfriend, and I did that all without powers. So, you know, I’m coming.”
@RemAtmos
@RemAtmos 2 жыл бұрын
Definitely a pretty kickass line
@aomaito5549
@aomaito5549 Жыл бұрын
Love how Elsa the whole time has fhe body language of "yeah but..... okay, yeah..... yeah, you know what fair point "
@Absolei
@Absolei Жыл бұрын
You know what? I'm sorry these people are using your poor comment to fight about "who has it worse". It's not fun! I definitely agree with what you said, I loved that line! It was amazing and it instantly endeared me more to Anna. But anyways, to the others, can't we just agree that both genders have unfair amounts of pressure on them? With women it shows more because we're louder about it, as we should be, but men have it pretty badly too, you know? People don't let each other feel things and they're constantly competing on who has it worse, when can't we just say this isn't fair to anyone?
@Njx063
@Njx063 Жыл бұрын
@@Absoleiwrong comment bud
@KayGee_yt
@KayGee_yt 4 жыл бұрын
I'm not attracted to Kristoff but hearing "I'm here, what do you need?" In the theater was SO sexy. I appreciate this video
@animequeen78
@animequeen78 4 жыл бұрын
Reliability is considered an attractive trait bc it ensures the survival of those under the reliable person's care.
@baldr6894
@baldr6894 4 жыл бұрын
“Yeah, science!”
@OnyxAgainstTheWorld
@OnyxAgainstTheWorld 4 жыл бұрын
YES!
@moonknight4053
@moonknight4053 4 жыл бұрын
Lmao why would u be attracted to an animated character? That’s like me saying yeah I gotta crush on the hulk
@akhla.q
@akhla.q 4 жыл бұрын
@@moonknight4053 lmao it's not impossible to get attracted to animated character
@rowanhutchison3378
@rowanhutchison3378 3 жыл бұрын
I know this is about Kristoph and how he asked Anna permission to kiss her. I would also like to point out that in tangled, Rapunzel was the first Disney princess to kiss the guy first. Eugene never tried to kiss her, that was all Rapunzel and that’s awesome too.
@hypnotherapy69
@hypnotherapy69 3 жыл бұрын
so it´s ok if a girl kisses you without checking concent... ok good to know feminism can be comfusing sometimes..
@rowanhutchison3378
@rowanhutchison3378 3 жыл бұрын
@@hypnotherapy69 I literally never said that. Consent is important. How is appropriating that a Disney princess kissed a guy first feminist?? Are you just trying to start something?
@falkyrie5228
@falkyrie5228 3 жыл бұрын
Shame she didn't ask Eugene for his permission, am I right?
@nightowl_
@nightowl_ 3 жыл бұрын
@@hypnotherapy69 they obviously were generating a relationship in tangled before she kissed him so no you don’t just kiss anyone male female etc without having that before hand or consent
@nightowl_
@nightowl_ 3 жыл бұрын
@Taelin Cusic they were showing interest in each other before she kissed him during that scene and before body language is also important
@terezakostacka3572
@terezakostacka3572 2 жыл бұрын
There is actually a song called "Gonna Get This Right" that was cut about Kristoff being so nervous about the proposal that Anna actually ended up being the one who proposed! It's a banger and super cute.
@misspriss2482
@misspriss2482 4 жыл бұрын
"I'm here; what do you need?" Can you imagine if everybody had that attitude toward their significant others? It would revolutionize relationships.
@morganmiller7428
@morganmiller7428 4 жыл бұрын
Just in general relationships would make life better.
@kellustzall3057
@kellustzall3057 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah because people have big bad egos.
@resenique3848
@resenique3848 4 жыл бұрын
I'm grateful my bestfriend is 🥰
@TheEbonyWarrior
@TheEbonyWarrior 4 жыл бұрын
Then do it, what's so hard about it? You too busy being a wicked cynic with depression?
@morganmiller7428
@morganmiller7428 4 жыл бұрын
@@TheEbonyWarrior Who are you talking to? No one is being a Cynic
@morganqorishchi8181
@morganqorishchi8181 4 жыл бұрын
"My love is not fragile" is the best line ever uttered by a Disney love interest. It's really interesting because if you read the tie-in book A Frozen Heart, Hans is great at imitating what people need, and he understands from Anna's behavior and background that she needs a good listener and someone who cares, but it's just a means to an end. It's a way to get closer to the crown, and he finds it obnoxious to continue to feign interest in what she likes and exhausting to try to balance acting in a way that appeals to her and to the other royal delegates present. Kristoff finds it frustrating, but it's genuine and his reasons for trying to be supportive are based in real love rather than in getting to the crown, it's something he keeps going at, and he remains 100% there for Anna throughout the whole movie. Meanwhile Hans, who was just trying to be whatever it took to get her to marry him, immediately bails on her when she needs him and it would serve his goal better to just leave her to die. The really clever thing is that the tie-in books uses the same line, repeatedly, for Hans and Kristoff's internal monologues: "Anna needs me." But when Hans thinks it, he thinks of it as a weakness on her part and a thing he can exploit. When Kristoff thinks it, he immediately goes to 'so how do I help her?' Same thought, wildly different intentions.
@Rebelheart1985
@Rebelheart1985 4 жыл бұрын
Kinda wish the first movie showed more of that side of Hans
@quinnfletcher3906
@quinnfletcher3906 4 жыл бұрын
A simp is someone who is TOO nice for their own good. There is a difference between being nice and being a pushover. A simp is someone who allows themselves to be taken advantage of. Kindness needs to be tempered with self-respect.
@jordanfleming7022
@jordanfleming7022 4 жыл бұрын
This is my understanding of the term ‘Simp’, don’t take my word as gospel, though. 1) Simp in its original context: The term was based around obsession, loneliness, and para-social interactions. Its used to describe love-starved men growing attached to female streamers, or at least their digital personas. It was about men constructing this delusion that, if they donate enough money, then they may somehow form a romantic relationship with this woman that doesn’t even know of their existence. 2) Simps second definition: The first mutation of ‘Simp’ was used to describe spineless men that let people walk all over them, typically women; and especially women they had feelings for. 3) How Simp is currently used: Its used on men that show any kindness to women - heck, not even kindness, just positive interaction with women as a whole. Simp has become such a buzzword at this point - its lost all meaning and importance.
@suanesantos1528
@suanesantos1528 4 жыл бұрын
THAT'S IT
@msgirly6827
@msgirly6827 4 жыл бұрын
@@jordanfleming7022 the last two part of your comment *chef kiss*
@lisacallan5462
@lisacallan5462 3 жыл бұрын
Honestly was so happy there was finally a love interest for a Disney Princess who wasn't problematic in some way, shape or form. Kristoff has his own business, he may be quirky and socially awkward but he wasn't previously some kind of criminal, he has actual feelings and a personality AND he puts Anna first without being a complete doormat. Literal first time Disney got a man right for a completely relatable Princess and they've had like what? 80 years of these things??
@mannajacobc.2269
@mannajacobc.2269 2 жыл бұрын
Tiana and Naveen are really cute imo.
@rangers94ism
@rangers94ism 2 жыл бұрын
No he's a doormat
@jotunfalls4026
@jotunfalls4026 2 жыл бұрын
Eugene has feelings and emotions too, it wasn't his fault his parents abandoned him as a kid and he had to resort to criminality.
@melaniemason1085
@melaniemason1085 4 жыл бұрын
I hate how even in today's society people shame men for showing the slightest amount of genuine care and respect for women and choose to call them a simp. Being called a simp isn't really a compliment, but it shouldn't be a negative thing. It's honestly a term that shouldn't exist because then people start to mistake what it means to be genuinely kind and caring as a man. It's like how any man who shows any characteristic of femininity is considered to be less of a "man". Feminity should not be viewed as a negative thing. It is just as powerful and important as masculinity.
@ukiyo2616
@ukiyo2616 4 жыл бұрын
♥️
@srfrancium9728
@srfrancium9728 4 жыл бұрын
The worst thing is some "simp"/ nice guy behavior is terrible and self fulfilling/disingenuous, the simp acronym itself still puts blame on the woman.
@ukiyo2616
@ukiyo2616 4 жыл бұрын
@@srfrancium9728 i don't get the whole man of culture thing that boys say, really dont. so some call men simp for being.. a nice gentleman? their calling a man a simp because he treats women right? their calling a man a simp.. for not being a douchebag? SJSKSKKSKSDJKKDSKDK i don't get boys
@notavailable8201
@notavailable8201 4 жыл бұрын
@@ukiyo2616 They considered it that cause they think those type of men are trying to hard to win a woman's affection when they have no chance what so ever. Kinda dumb but hey guess I'm a simp too just for being raised with something most guys that use that term.. Don't have Something called Manners
@luyun352
@luyun352 4 жыл бұрын
If my man is called a simp i'll reply, "Well, he is a simp. A Gentleman simp. He's strong and respectful and I love him"
@The482075
@The482075 4 жыл бұрын
Kristoff is an underrated character because he is overshadowed by the larger than life Anna and Elsa. Frozen is such a big female empowerment film that you forget that Kristolf is a bad ass in his own right.
@viktor._.dumi08
@viktor._.dumi08 3 жыл бұрын
This also reminds me that people overly shadow the good people and the ones that went trough a lot in real life. I am such a person and ive noticed that people ,if they see you okay on the outside they wont check on you cause 'youre fine',but if you show your emotions they will say 'youre faking it'
@serpentinewolf7085
@serpentinewolf7085 3 жыл бұрын
Um no. He’s a favorite.
@petscopkid
@petscopkid 3 жыл бұрын
@@viktor._.dumi08 true
@oooh19
@oooh19 3 жыл бұрын
so true that many men think theyre automatically right so it's great to see that men can be supportive
@cloud-ho1wv
@cloud-ho1wv 3 жыл бұрын
what. hes an icon in the frozen fandom
@nessad01
@nessad01 2 жыл бұрын
Kristioph was raised by the trolls who were said to be “love experts”. As love experts, they give him and Anna some great hidden advice in the song “Fixer Upper”. I like the bit,”People make bad choices when they’re mad or sad or scared or stressed; throw a little love their way and you’ll bring out their best.” ❤
@judeannethecandorchannel2153
@judeannethecandorchannel2153 4 жыл бұрын
It's sad that some people would dismiss Kristoff as a beta, cuck, or "soy boy" just cuz he's supportive
@dippitydoppitydoo
@dippitydoppitydoo 4 жыл бұрын
No it’s because he’s supportive and Anna doesn’t seem to care. He’s does selfless acts of love that go unreciprocated. Anna doesn’t deserve him.
@TheRavenousWolfe_27
@TheRavenousWolfe_27 3 жыл бұрын
@@dippitydoppitydoo did you seriously not watch the video at all??
@s_mai8970
@s_mai8970 3 жыл бұрын
@@dippitydoppitydoo the video is just 15 minutes long yet you can't even watch it entirely?
@matheussanthiago9685
@matheussanthiago9685 3 жыл бұрын
this ppl are sad
@judeannethecandorchannel2153
@judeannethecandorchannel2153 3 жыл бұрын
@@matheussanthiago9685 I don't understand what you mean...
@exhaustedsprout1734
@exhaustedsprout1734 4 жыл бұрын
My favorite thing about the "I'll drive" moment is that not only does he support the other characters needs but, since we previously heard him say that he's not comfortable with Elsa taking the wagon alone, he also does this whilst respecting his own boundaries
@avocados1707
@avocados1707 2 жыл бұрын
SAMEEEE
@locohuero
@locohuero 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed, he did answer both situations very respectfully.
@BearlyAwake13
@BearlyAwake13 3 жыл бұрын
The timing of Jonathan saying "you need to be careful your perceptions don't become your reality" at 05:19 literally exactly when we see Kristoff's perspective of Sven actually talking/singing sure was hilarious
@sariahhayford3331
@sariahhayford3331 Жыл бұрын
Lol I caught that too!
@winterinbloom
@winterinbloom 4 жыл бұрын
My jaw literally dropped when I heard Kristoff say "I'm here. What do you need?" That was the first time I've heard such a thing in a movie. Generally any other time a woman is rushing to accomplish something extremely important and time sensitive her significant other is only there to delay her or suggest she is losing her marbles due to stress, reguardless or whether or not that stress is great or relatively minor.
@50.arthouse
@50.arthouse 4 жыл бұрын
SO TRUEE
@Azusartcorner
@Azusartcorner 3 жыл бұрын
I think that's sometimes (possibly often) played as a criticism of these men acting like that, and then it's assumed the audience will pick up on that. But I think showing the better example is way superior.
@s_mai8970
@s_mai8970 3 жыл бұрын
same!!! I was just so pleasantly surprised because it feels like something like that said by a man coming to their partner's aid is always coupled along the lines of "what happened?1?! i need explanation so that i know im helping for the right thing" insteas of trusting their partner in their very time of need.
@mariadocarmosobreira8323
@mariadocarmosobreira8323 3 жыл бұрын
That's literally a lie.
@winterinbloom
@winterinbloom 3 жыл бұрын
@@mariadocarmosobreira8323 What is a lie?
@jackelinetejada4348
@jackelinetejada4348 4 жыл бұрын
About the first scene, I may be wrong, but when I was watching the movie I thought that Kristoff meant he was uncomfortable with the idea of leaving Elsa in charge of Sven
@CinemaTherapyShow
@CinemaTherapyShow 4 жыл бұрын
I hadn't read it that way, but you might be right. Layers. It's got layers!
@UltimateWolfy
@UltimateWolfy 4 жыл бұрын
Honestly, I thought he just meant he was uncomfortable with the idea of her going alone period.
@ABagelLeftOnTheRoadside
@ABagelLeftOnTheRoadside 4 жыл бұрын
@@CinemaTherapyShow Like onions. And cake. ._.
@nathanflores1974
@nathanflores1974 4 жыл бұрын
@@ABagelLeftOnTheRoadside and ogres
@nottelling6855
@nottelling6855 4 жыл бұрын
I thought it was more to do with being in charge of his sled - considering the last time that he wasn't in control of it, it got thrown off a cliff and burst into flames at the bottom, resulting in it being replaced. It's understandable that he wouldn't want that to happen again.
@samsoniusskylla2394
@samsoniusskylla2394 2 жыл бұрын
I love how you're better at being my therapist than my actual therapist lmao
@CinemaTherapyShow
@CinemaTherapyShow 2 жыл бұрын
Lol. Thank you!
@TheDaniela3112
@TheDaniela3112 7 ай бұрын
Ikr? Same
@tonigalvan2005
@tonigalvan2005 4 жыл бұрын
Kristoff is fantastic, but you should look at David from "Lilo and Stitch"
@katiearbuckle9017
@katiearbuckle9017 4 жыл бұрын
I feel bad for David half the time... I wouldn't be surprised if he had a weird Habit like Kristoff is he like talking to his Surf Boards, can we just have a Spinoff from David's perspective.
@brigidtheirish
@brigidtheirish 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah! He's not only super supportive and there for Nani, but he's actually able to keep track of a small child and her alien 'dog' running through the house *while watching TV!* As Dad said when we saw that episode, "Marry him."
@m.v.gonzalez5575
@m.v.gonzalez5575 4 жыл бұрын
Everyone says Frozen is the first movie about sisterly love but forget about Lilo&Stitch, and like you said David was best boyfriend more than a decade before Kristoff!
@miamama9886
@miamama9886 4 жыл бұрын
​@@m.v.gonzalez5575 the movie title is literally Lilo and Stitch, not Lilo and Nina, so... Frozen is still the first Disney movie focus on sister relationship. And Kristoff is miles better than David TBH
@mothmadi_
@mothmadi_ 4 жыл бұрын
@@miamama9886 the movie is about sisterly love though. just because their names arent the title (hello? frozen? that point of yours is completely void) doesnt mean they aren't a focal point.
@TheLisafoxblin
@TheLisafoxblin 4 жыл бұрын
"Shelving your agenda" is something I first noticed in the first "Divergent" book. The fraction Tris was from had this tradition: they took turns listening. It was kinda cool. One time Tris's mom comes to visit her in a new fraction and she says: "I have a gift for you today. My gift is that I will be only listening and talking about how YOU are doing". That was the first time I actually thought of it as a real gift, which it really is.
@CinemaTherapyShow
@CinemaTherapyShow 4 жыл бұрын
So true. Great example! I've seen the films, but not read the books. Sounds like it's worth it.
@TheLisafoxblin
@TheLisafoxblin 4 жыл бұрын
@@CinemaTherapyShow , yes, the movie became like a chick-flick joke, but the book is actually pretty good.
@lindseysquire8417
@lindseysquire8417 4 жыл бұрын
@@CinemaTherapyShow The first book is great, I reread it all the time. The second and third suck in my opinion, but that's just me. I know people who love them.
@faithanwuri379
@faithanwuri379 4 жыл бұрын
@@lindseysquire8417 yh, you're right. i remember the 1st book being great, interesting plot, cool relationship. then the second and third book were just an absolute pain to get through, especially the 3rd. it took me AGES to finish it and the ending was trash
@00Sunburn00
@00Sunburn00 4 жыл бұрын
@@faithanwuri379 don't remind me of the ending please...
@janerjasper
@janerjasper 3 жыл бұрын
7:32 this is the best balloon sound effect i've ever heard a human make
@CinemaTherapyShow
@CinemaTherapyShow 3 жыл бұрын
Hahaha. Yes! I have a talent!
@katle9917
@katle9917 4 жыл бұрын
The idea of shelving your agenda is a great tool and I will implement it in my own relationships. Healthy communication and emotional support for the win!
@MendedLight
@MendedLight 4 жыл бұрын
So glad you found value in it Kat Le! Please come on back and let your loved ones know what we're up to here!
@CinemaTherapyShow
@CinemaTherapyShow 4 жыл бұрын
Isn't it an awesome concept?
@adetaku3145
@adetaku3145 4 жыл бұрын
@@CinemaTherapyShow It really is! I'm so thankful to have found this channel
@noraeld5020
@noraeld5020 4 жыл бұрын
@@adetaku3145 same
@viirinsoftworks1304
@viirinsoftworks1304 4 жыл бұрын
But it only works if everyone involved does it. If it's only one person doing it for someone else, that's must making you subservient and a tool for others to use. Everyone has to do it. Surprised the therapist didn't point this out.
@holachicos320
@holachicos320 4 жыл бұрын
"We have to make sure that our perception doesn't become our reality" He says that while a reindeer is singing in the background.
@courtneylewis2415
@courtneylewis2415 3 жыл бұрын
I think that was intentional???
@wesley6442
@wesley6442 3 жыл бұрын
That was pretty good, got a good laugh out of that one! thanks! haha
@goji253
@goji253 3 жыл бұрын
Kristoff and Eugene are the best Disney "princes" and you will never be able to change my mind about that.
@Book_Dragon2562
@Book_Dragon2562 3 жыл бұрын
Well Eugene was invented by women and Kristoff was played by Jon Groff so…not shocking
@goji253
@goji253 3 жыл бұрын
@@Book_Dragon2562 Ah yes because the gender of Eugene's creators is absolutely the determining factor in the quality of his writing....
@jamjam0409
@jamjam0409 3 жыл бұрын
Because they are not
@Book_Dragon2562
@Book_Dragon2562 2 жыл бұрын
@@goji253 No, but women are much more in tune with what women fantasize about than men are. Therefore, it’s not surprising most women hold Eugene/Flynn above many of the other Disney princes. He also had more development than most get because of the series AND he’s a modern prince therefore he fits all the current ideals of manhood as opposed to characters from previous generations trying to appeal to todays society. Same with Kristoff actually. So yes, that matters.
@unknownstranger6875
@unknownstranger6875 2 жыл бұрын
They’re not princes but Phoebus from The Hunch of Notre Dame (as well as Quasimodo), and Hercules are up there too.
@MsChocolatini
@MsChocolatini 4 жыл бұрын
not shaming men for being emotionally mature, this definitely should be on the agenda!
@MiaogisTeas
@MiaogisTeas 4 жыл бұрын
Maybe just not shaming men at all?
@g.strobl4458
@g.strobl4458 4 жыл бұрын
@@MiaogisTeas, well, I'm rather in favour of aggression-shaming... Not based on gender, just generally.
@SayderCascading
@SayderCascading 4 жыл бұрын
"...she's so preoccupied about keeping her sister safe that she's not really paying attention to Kristoff and his needs or Kristoff and their relationship. She takes it for granted that they're solid and that they're gonna be okay..." I literally did this exact same thing a few months ago. My sister was in a crisis situation, and so of course I left home to be where I needed to be. But I completely underestimated how it would affect my husband. Although he was completely understanding of the situation, I failed to acknowledge his own suffering. He shelved his own problems for me, and I had no idea he had done so until I came back home and he finally felt comfortable letting me know, after the crisis had been dealt with.
@rosekopelowitz5069
@rosekopelowitz5069 4 жыл бұрын
this brings to mind what a psychology professor taught me once--women tend to feel a bit more secure in their relationships (when it's healthy anyways) and so when a crisis comes that definitely takes precedence for us and we just assume that the relationship is okay. but men tend to need more validation, ESPECIALLY when external situations are hard. I've done this myself with my boyfriend. I get preoccupied with school or family or my depression but forget that HE NEEDS TO KNOW THAT EVERYTHING IS OKAY, with us, with me, and with whatever I'm dealing with.
@DreamQuillRose
@DreamQuillRose 4 жыл бұрын
@@rosekopelowitz5069 How do you let him know that?
@dippitydoppitydoo
@dippitydoppitydoo 4 жыл бұрын
You don’t deserve your husband.
@rosekopelowitz5069
@rosekopelowitz5069 4 жыл бұрын
@@DreamQuillRose well I'm human of course so sometimes i forget, but it's usually just a quick text saying that i love him, and sometimes we just talk and I tell him that things are hard but I still care...at first it was harder for him to understand, but now that he knows me and my personality a bit better, it doesn't take much to let him know how I feel.
@DreamQuillRose
@DreamQuillRose 4 жыл бұрын
@@rosekopelowitz5069 Interesting. I have always been under the impression that women are the ones who are more insecure about their relationships, probably because men are more likely to cheat or have an affair. After considering what you said, maybe one reason they cheat is because of THEIR insecurity? I keep remembering Billy Joel's song "Tell Her About It."
@treefrog1018
@treefrog1018 3 жыл бұрын
I am a lady who is into ladies but when I saw in the theater Kristoff asking Anna "I'm here. What do you need?", I swooned and started questioning my attractions. 🙌
@sarahlandis289
@sarahlandis289 Жыл бұрын
I feel that 😂
@aubreechristensen2008
@aubreechristensen2008 4 жыл бұрын
"I'm here. What do you need?" is also a completion of his arc with Anna from the first movie where he tells her "I don't trust your judgement!" By the second movie he completely trusts her. You're leading rock giants to the dam? Sounds good, let's go.
@tiggerpup_nz
@tiggerpup_nz 3 жыл бұрын
To be fair, she was marrying a man she just met. That judgment was piss poor and was proven poor. No one would trust her judgement at first meeting and hearing that. I don’t blame kristoff for not trusting her judgement
@chadhiggins8397
@chadhiggins8397 3 жыл бұрын
In fairness, I think that's more her character arc than his... She became more trustworthy in the second movie when she became a little less naive and kristoff had more reason to trust in her. You can truly trust in any idiot, it's not always a great idea though... Even if they're well meaning.
@Book_Dragon2562
@Book_Dragon2562 3 жыл бұрын
@@chadhiggins8397 I respectfully disagree. Anna might have become a more trustworthy ruler and sister but as a partner she was severely lacking in this film.
@grinko1222
@grinko1222 2 жыл бұрын
@@Book_Dragon2562 Nothing wrong with being supportive but being Anna's bf is all his character has been reduced too.
@cherlinesandiego2654
@cherlinesandiego2654 4 жыл бұрын
"I can disagree with you words, I can disagree with your thinking, and I can disagree with your behavior but there is really no way to disagree with an emotion because an emotion is just is." More people need to hear this.
@londrisayala6238
@londrisayala6238 3 жыл бұрын
My mom
@sugarfree3446
@sugarfree3446 3 жыл бұрын
LOUDER
@paulanthonycordova1724
@paulanthonycordova1724 3 жыл бұрын
LOUDER FOR THE PEOPLE AT THE BACK!
@Venet1an_Gl4ss
@Venet1an_Gl4ss 3 жыл бұрын
@@paulanthonycordova1724 Ight, I’m not the person that commented, but here ya go: *”I CAN DISAGREE WITH YOUR WORDS, I CAN DISAGREE WITH YOUR BEHAVIOR, BUT THERE IS REALLY NO WAY TO DISAGREE WITH AN EMTION, BECAUSE AN EMOTION JUST IS.”*
@janellerosePH
@janellerosePH 3 жыл бұрын
6:54
@lukaza1261
@lukaza1261 3 жыл бұрын
"who are you" Alan: *has an existensial crises* 10/10 therapist
@StardustWhip
@StardustWhip 4 жыл бұрын
I don’t really like Frozen II that much, but I’ve _got_ to appreciate the way that Kristoff is just unconditionally there for Anna. It’s not something that I remember ever seeing done to this extent by a male character before. EDIT: Not to mention how, when Elsa wants to take Sven and the wagon into the Enchanted Forest all by herself, his response is a mild "I'm not comfortable with that idea" and his solution is that he'll come along. What I would expect from most male characters in that situation would be something along the lines of "Are you crazy?!" or "Not a chance!" followed by trying to stop Elsa from going. But not Kristoff. He's everything I want to see more of in cinema, but especially movies like this that kids will be seeing.
@mothmadi_
@mothmadi_ 4 жыл бұрын
Im honestly super happy that Disney is starting to implement better male leads into their princess movies. It's such a good start.
@HE4RTSLABYUL
@HE4RTSLABYUL 4 жыл бұрын
@@princevegeta2956 what
@amandapinkgelato9482
@amandapinkgelato9482 4 жыл бұрын
Wait until you have a 3 yr old- girl or boy- you'll appreciate it.
@Tersina
@Tersina 4 жыл бұрын
Yesss, his way of expressing his boundaries and then coming up with a compromise was something I'm so glad my younger brother could see!
@CandyApples4ever
@CandyApples4ever 4 жыл бұрын
If I ever have a son I hope to teach him that behaviour.
@katiearbuckle9017
@katiearbuckle9017 4 жыл бұрын
I mean even in the First movie he was like.. Agreeing With Elsa for Anna's sake even though he never met her about Hans, Was going to give a Snowman a Reality Check, and totally owned the fact he was raised by Trolls that looked like Rocks. And it's really Night and Day when you put Hans into the picture, like Hans was gaslighting, pushing a personal agenda to get both sisters out of the way... And Kristoff boom the second he meets Anna, hears about Hans, he is like " Hold up, there is like a shit ton of red flags here. WHAT ARE YOU EVEN LOOKING AT GIRL!!" And If Elsa was like right there she should be like " See I tried Telling her this exact thing, but no no no." And I am sure as soon as Kristoff and Elsa actually got to relax over everything Elsa probably looked at Anna and probably sounded like the trolls went " YOU WANTED HANS OVER THIS!!!"
@ananyam9950
@ananyam9950 4 жыл бұрын
OMG YES I LOVE THINKING ABOUT KRISTOFF AND ELSA'S IN-LAWS RELATIONSHIP
@CandyApples4ever
@CandyApples4ever 4 жыл бұрын
@@ananyam9950 Imagine those two having like an hour hangout time every Friday just to unwind and talk about how ridiculous everything is.
@makaniwebb9358
@makaniwebb9358 3 жыл бұрын
I love this idea!
@katiearbuckle9017
@katiearbuckle9017 3 жыл бұрын
I also have a weird Headcanon that Sven is his Therapist. Which has to be Interesting but it makes me wonder if The Reindeer expanded his services to Elsa.
@CandyApples4ever
@CandyApples4ever 3 жыл бұрын
@@katiearbuckle9017 She sure needs the therapy
@ColoradoDiana
@ColoradoDiana 3 жыл бұрын
I love this review. I just wanted to point out, which I’m sure has already been pointed out, that Anna’s misunderstanding of Kristof in the first proposal was actually her being triggered by traumatic or distressing events from her past. I don’t think it’s that she was being deliberately obtuse or legitimately misunderstanding, but given that she is in panic mode about her sister it would make sense that she would pick up on these words and panic.
@jadecoolness101
@jadecoolness101 2 жыл бұрын
This is the one problem I have with Kristoff. The ONE single problem, everything else is perfect. His girlfriend's sister is gong through a crisis, and by extension his girlfriend is going through a crisis. Do you REALLY think that NOW is the time to propose? Or maybe wait a bit until this situation is resolved?
@Hileavemealone
@Hileavemealone 2 жыл бұрын
@@jadecoolness101 I mean, in his defence, he was raised by rocks who tried to make them marry each other when Anna was dying lmao
@jadecoolness101
@jadecoolness101 2 жыл бұрын
@@Hileavemealone True... But you'd think after dating her for a while he'd gain some common sense lol
@brianna6377
@brianna6377 2 жыл бұрын
If I recall right, every single one of his proposal attempts save the last one was directly encouraged by an outside person or force. The only time he didn't bring up the proposal, when he shelved his agenda, is when there was nothing influencing his interaction with Anna and the state of the situation. Context-wise, it makes sense. He's accustomed to being surrounded by a big family constantly giving him direction and meddling in his choices and his life. If the story was centered on his arc and his story, I can easily imagine it being something along the lines of learning to trust his own judgement over others and standing by that decision.
@Kyosumari
@Kyosumari 2 жыл бұрын
@@brianna6377 I LOVE and agree with that interpretation/take-away. I noticed the same. He's a good boy trying to be a good boy and just a little too trusting of others' influences over his own decisions, and i can 100% relate.
@layoisaacssodeye
@layoisaacssodeye 4 жыл бұрын
"I prefer you in leather anyway." Me sitting next to my mom: Anna no
@desireeparks4930
@desireeparks4930 4 жыл бұрын
Hang on I kinda get it but I don't get it completely- could you explain lol
@okay-zb5zm
@okay-zb5zm 4 жыл бұрын
@@desireeparks4930 if you dont know its best not to ask
@meredithr4513
@meredithr4513 4 жыл бұрын
@@desireeparks4930 I won't go in to detail as this is not the place, but here is the gist. It can be taken as a tongue in cheek reference to a certain sexual subculture, specifically a subculture within BDSM. If you are curious Sex Nerd Sandra's podcast is a safe space learn about subcultures like this. Sorry if this is TMI, I dislike people being told not to ask like the other commenter on here did as there is nothing wrong with asking for clarification if you are curious about something.
@milytorres3034
@milytorres3034 4 жыл бұрын
Try explaining that to an 8yr. She helped me out because she thought it had somethings, to do with the saddle of a horse. Funny line though!
@g.strobl4458
@g.strobl4458 4 жыл бұрын
@@milytorres3034, that's the fun thing: you don't need to try to explain the adult version to kids - he just wears leather for his job, because it keeps him warm. :)
@62crowsinananunusuallyshin97
@62crowsinananunusuallyshin97 4 жыл бұрын
Dude, I'm getting so much second hand therapy its giving me anxiety just how much I mess up my relationships. I've been on a binge of watching all of the pixar ones and I'm _Bawling_ . Holy crap I'm gonna go fix some stuff over dinner, thanks guys.
@brandonbuchner1771
@brandonbuchner1771 3 жыл бұрын
This is my favorite episode. This is the second time i've watched it and it has certainly helped me be a better communicator. When I first watched Frozen 2, I paused it at "i'm here, what do you need" and turned to my girlfriend and was like did you hear that? If i was in the theater with Jonathan i would have high fived him. Even though i had never heard the term "shelving your agenda."
@acecat5575
@acecat5575 4 жыл бұрын
I am here for the balloon deflation sound effect... also... that first line of: I'm here, What do you need? is relationship goals
@CinemaTherapyShow
@CinemaTherapyShow 4 жыл бұрын
That line is so golden.
@orionaugustwatson
@orionaugustwatson 4 жыл бұрын
My girlfriend comparing me to Kristoff was one of the biggest compliments for me. Especially considering ,she had a couple relationships, which had a significantly negative impact on her , before we started dating, and she's my first and only girlfriend so far. And being not much of a social person, I was more buffoonish than I'm now(well I was almost 20 then , and am 23 now, not the age known for maturity ) Initially I was clueless , and overly conscious, however I tried my best ,doing little stuff like accompanying her to her therapist, offering to listen and just be there , spending quality time with her whenever possible. In a strange but fortunate way, it helped me deal with my own issues too. And by sheer luck and me not failing miserably, she's still tolerating me , and we're going strong. We've learned a lot from and during our time so far and hopefully we'll learn and grow on.
@chavitanwar2126
@chavitanwar2126 4 жыл бұрын
Well congratulations to both of you and all the best
@MiaogisTeas
@MiaogisTeas 4 жыл бұрын
Wait - she goes to a therapist, she's had multiple negative relationships before you, and she "tolerates" you? And then she compared you to Kristof? 🚩🚩🚩 I hate to break this to you bud, but anyone who merely tolerates you does not have your best interests at heart. I really hope I'm wrong but that's the kind of thing someone with a narcissistic personality issue would say, not because she appreciates how kind you are, but because you're there to supply her with what she needs. How many other friends do you spend significant time with? Do you see your family often? What's her opinion of them and your friends? Does she text and call you all the time, and freak out if you don't answer? What about your workplace? Does she believe you're too good for them? Where do you live? Does she want you to move out of your place and live with her? Does she check your phone, your drawers, your wardrobe when you're not around? Does she hate things you own that have connections to other people or women in your life? Please be careful mate.
@orionaugustwatson
@orionaugustwatson 4 жыл бұрын
@@MiaogisTeas thank you for your concern mate. These are all legitimate concerns. I really wholeheartedly appreciate your candour and honest perspective. In fact my older sister was skeptical at first and shared your concerns (though she didn't tell me immediately until later ), and was on the fence initially. Especially since she is kind of my first girlfriend. But they got closer as they got to know each other and our relationship progressed. I'm afraid my description might've been one sided,and misleading. She does compare me to other fictional characters sometimes, including and often animated ones. Well tolerate was merely poorly worded on my part. The word tolerate came from me,not her . Our personalities are different but not too different to be incompatible. And I'm in no way ,extraordinarily kind or anything. Just humane I hope. I had an admittedly happier and more sheltered childhood. Yet it takes a lot for me to be vulnerable and open up to anyone , including my family. She's one of the most wonderful women I've met . And in her own words , her past relationships weren't negative exclusively because of the other person. She admits her own flaws and the times when she and her ex simply grew apart, over/under indulgence in each other , and so. She told me about times she was short tempered and considered herself to be have the larger contribution or lack thereof in the relationship going sour . Only one of her past relationships could be considered actively abusive according to her and the said therapist. And we've met each others families. My family loves her and her family loves me. And I already was in a different country than my parents for college, way before I met her. However as I said I do visit my family when possible and she does hers, sometimes we go together, other times to our respective homes. And so far thankfully we have our separate social lives . Since we both are in early stages of our respective careers. I've plenty of platonic female friends from school and college. She had heard of all of them who I'm till in touch with. She has even met a few of my school friends, and they get along well. In fact it was a mutual friend (female) , who invited her to the inter college festival we first met. And for wardrobe and stuff, pandemic broke out shortly after we moved in. So neither of us have been alone for a long time in our flat. We don't know each other's password by design . I talk to my family more often than she does with hers. And so far she's been nothing but supportive, and now that we live together,she talks to them as well, often playfully asking my parents about my childhood ,and joining my older sister in playfully teasing me. And we're both young and who knows what's next. Both of us would evolve , whether we'll get closer or apart, only time would tell. So far the impact's been positive. Hopefully it will be so ,and even if it isn't , I'll have learnt valuable lessons regarding life, relationships and adulthood.
@orionaugustwatson
@orionaugustwatson 4 жыл бұрын
@@chavitanwar2126 thanks a ton
@zacharyrichardson7189
@zacharyrichardson7189 4 жыл бұрын
@@orionaugustwatson how did you meet her?
@CleverCase
@CleverCase 3 жыл бұрын
My wife and I talk through all of our arguments that way, each taking points to home and hearing each other. Healthiest damn relationship of our lives.
@anezkachlumova9430
@anezkachlumova9430 4 жыл бұрын
My boyfriend is perfect at shelving his agenda and I never realised that before. Gotta go give him a kiss. Thank you :)
@qwertydavid8070
@qwertydavid8070 3 жыл бұрын
Trust me, men love little details like that. I know you women may think it's just a little insignificant thing, but a little kiss or a warm cuddle can make our days ten times better :)
@Misstykata
@Misstykata 3 жыл бұрын
Soon as I finished the video I told mine that I love him ^^ He always says, it's supposed to be normal and he doesn't want me to thank him for every considerate thing he does and he's neverending support, but he is amazing as a partner, no matter how much he denies it
@Merlijn1994
@Merlijn1994 3 жыл бұрын
Mine too and I almost always love love love him for it but sometimes when I'm being an unreasonable grump and trying to pick a fight I'm SO angry about it😂🙈
@mercykok2635
@mercykok2635 3 жыл бұрын
@@Merlijn1994 that reminds me of the scene in httyd three were hiccup is speaking out his annoyance astrid is saying ‘yes your right’ and he asked: are you just going to stand there and agree with everything.
@nyankobig4129
@nyankobig4129 3 жыл бұрын
Same, and I've been pretty meh at him, so I feel extra bad now.
@thehappygamer5020
@thehappygamer5020 4 жыл бұрын
My husband is literally like Kristoff, He is so sweet, and is very opened with me. We talk about things that we both need to improve on. He has been the only person that I have met that is like this.
@nicoleraheem1195
@nicoleraheem1195 3 жыл бұрын
This is how I am but I was often taken advantage of because of it. I was treated as if I was undeserving of respect. It took me years to realize that I was around toxic people and it wasn't my fault. Now I do not allow for people to mistreat me for having a good heart
@awaywithwords6
@awaywithwords6 3 жыл бұрын
There will be people that really appreciate that quality in you and will not take advantage of you because of it. Promise
@Owmelicious
@Owmelicious 3 жыл бұрын
@@awaywithwords6 I needed to hear that :| Thanks
@victorrelmek2889
@victorrelmek2889 2 жыл бұрын
Well you lucked out!
@surayaiffah4967
@surayaiffah4967 3 жыл бұрын
"you feel what you feel, and your feelings are real" -Sven the therapist
@birubu
@birubu 4 жыл бұрын
“My love is not fragile” It’s been scratched and scraped, but it won’t shatter
@chrissyjoy08
@chrissyjoy08 4 жыл бұрын
This! ❤❤❤
@dippitydoppitydoo
@dippitydoppitydoo 4 жыл бұрын
If Anna gave a damn she would’ve treated it with more care.
@birubu
@birubu 4 жыл бұрын
@@dippitydoppitydoo his love is like iPhone tempered glass screen protectors. Yeah it’s there but you mostly just ignore it until you drop your phone and it saves your screen.
@reyskywalker3735
@reyskywalker3735 4 жыл бұрын
@@dippitydoppitydoo can we please acknowledge that Anna's sister literally died over the course of the movie? And not to mention, her "negligence" of Kristoff was due to her fear for Elsa. The troll's words had Anna on high alert right from the beginning. This was Elsa's journey of self discovery, and Anna needed to be by her side in support. I think it's very powerful that Kristoff was able to realize Anna's needs in the moment, shelve his agenda for the time being, and just focus on providing the support that she needed.
@dippitydoppitydoo
@dippitydoppitydoo 4 жыл бұрын
@@reyskywalker3735 Exactly. The relationship is completely one-sided. She doesn’t deserve him.
@xoipa1025
@xoipa1025 4 жыл бұрын
I hurt my friend's feelings earlier. I sent them some messages, and then this came up in my recommended. After the first few minutes of watching, I decided to go back, delete, and edit my messages and try to shelve my agenda. I hope the new version of the message is what'll help us get over this bump sooner and smoother. Thank you for this.
@CinemaTherapyShow
@CinemaTherapyShow 4 жыл бұрын
Wow! That’s incredible!! Thank you so much for sharing! We hope that we’re like, doing some good, but hearing from people who are actually making their lives better is... just the best. Alan here. Big surprise, I’m tearing up reading this.
@Create-fs7pz
@Create-fs7pz 4 жыл бұрын
The same thing happened to me earlier when the zootopia vid popped up in my recommended. I did a complete 180 and realized I was in the wrong. I really hurt them and I don't think they'll ever forgive me. I just hope finding this channel means I can avoid doing something like it in the future.
@xoipa1025
@xoipa1025 4 жыл бұрын
@@lady_stog We did! They said that they saw my previous messages, but the final/edited one helped them realize they overreacted, and they apologized to me too. I apologized again and we just went back and forth for a bit and cried haha
@byrnetdown6076
@byrnetdown6076 4 жыл бұрын
@@xoipa1025 yes !! thats so wonderful:)
@bluerain2082
@bluerain2082 3 жыл бұрын
I discovered your channel randomly and I felt like your channel fixed things in my brain I din't even know were broken! Thank you so much for being vulnerable and helpful out there. You've touched me and I hope you more positive recognition that you deserve!
@CinemaTherapyShow
@CinemaTherapyShow 3 жыл бұрын
Happy to help!
@yulexisvictoriano9546
@yulexisvictoriano9546 4 жыл бұрын
I love seeing these from a mans perspective. Usually you see relationship therapy from women. So, seeing you two be, in a sense, vulnerable and, able to talk about things like this, it's refreshing. Thank you!
@ribbontank9704
@ribbontank9704 4 жыл бұрын
Disney's perfect man is David from Lilo & Stitch.
@leighreinhart6185
@leighreinhart6185 4 жыл бұрын
He and Kristoff are the best. They both know their girls are complicated and dealing with hard stuff, but love them anyway. The attraction goes deeper than love at first sight.
@thebusydragonfish9725
@thebusydragonfish9725 3 жыл бұрын
This scene gets me everytime haha Lilo: She likes your butt and thinks your hair is fancy. David: she thinks it's fancy? HAHAHAHA
@Rose_C_Chyme
@Rose_C_Chyme 3 жыл бұрын
Omg yesssssss
@trashbasket11
@trashbasket11 3 жыл бұрын
David is a national treasure. Everyone deserves a David in their life.
@ginasalinas3070
@ginasalinas3070 3 жыл бұрын
Naveen also is in the top tier of Disney men
@dellanpickle
@dellanpickle 2 жыл бұрын
The stuff about Kristoff not knowing if Anna is as invested as he is really hits close to home. I'm going through the same thing with my girlfriend right now. I've been going through a lot since we've been together, and she's great, but I haven't felt like I had a right(?) to tell her my emotional needs, especially now. I was recently diagnosed with ADHD and depression, going to therapy and gonna get my meds sometime next January. It's been really hard, and a LOT of work trying to break out of bad habits and grow more as a person (these videos have actually helped TREMENDOUSLY, I can never thank you guys enough), but I've always been left to work through these kind of things myself. Last week I tried to explain how adhd affected me and why I wanted treatment, and it ended in my dad screaming at me and me crying in my room the rest of the night. I also feel like "damn, she didn't sign up for this, this is unfair to her." Were trying to work through it currently, I'll be back with an update.
@emersongonzales4298
@emersongonzales4298 2 жыл бұрын
I'm sorry that you are going through this. Me personally the best thing to do, (you don't have to listen) is to be able to communicate with her. With the stuff with your dad, don't feel bad for that. Your right she didn't sign up for this but you cannot change it, so talk with her about it. Express your feelings on how it makes you feel and how it makes her feel, even lead the conversation to "What should I do differently to not let this happen again". I think you both should ask each other what you guys can do differently in a more bad situation. As I have mentioned before simply share both of your feelings, then help each other get better and grow as a couple. This is just my intake of your situation. I hope you get better!
@BeetlejuiceBeetlejuiceJr
@BeetlejuiceBeetlejuiceJr 2 жыл бұрын
@@emersongonzales4298 I agree, you don't have to feel guilty over something that you had no choice in. I hope that you get in a better place.
@shanc4696
@shanc4696 Жыл бұрын
With the adhd at the very least unless you were doing a lot of masking, in which case that will need to be addressed for your mental health, she probably did sign up for it. She is with you not out of blood or obligation and if you’ve been genuine with her then she may just take it as you being you. Absolutely tell her because it can help avoid future misunderstandings but I’m not sure she didn’t sign up for that. As for the depression I get that people tend to be better at hiding that one typically but it’s not a personality deficit it’s a struggle you have. Whether or not she is in a place emotionally, mentally, and maturity wise to deal I can’t really say but it’s no more in your control than a cancer diagnosis. There are treatments for depression and treatments for cancer. As someone who has worked with a lot of oncology patients neither is perfect and neither guarantees 100% success. Relapses can occur but if you keep on top of looking out for signs of it reoccurring you’re in a better position to treat it again. Not perfect analogies so take them worth a grain of salt but if it’s the right relationship then telling them will improve things not diminish them.
@cindypats7693
@cindypats7693 4 жыл бұрын
Another great example of healthy relationships is Hiccups and Astrid's relationship from How to train your dragon. Loved it
@sahirva5469
@sahirva5469 4 жыл бұрын
5:15 Gotta love that overlay, "we need to be careful that our perception doesn't become our reality," as reindeer perform an exceptional musical support number.
@neuraaquaria
@neuraaquaria 2 жыл бұрын
This is perfect. It makes the audience know that men's feelings are existent. It shows the times where you need to step back and not just "do what you think is right," without EMPATHETICALLY understanding first. Love the movie, love the analysis.
@Valentina-tk8pi
@Valentina-tk8pi 4 жыл бұрын
No one: Therapist: Ah this is it, my favorite part of the movie. *Clip of Anna about to die*
@Amy_jo_
@Amy_jo_ 3 жыл бұрын
Same, therapist
@stefanlaskowski6660
@stefanlaskowski6660 3 жыл бұрын
No, it's Anna being incredibly heroic and brave. Once again, the unpowered sister saves the day.
@tareginda
@tareginda 3 жыл бұрын
I did not expect this comment at all. I’M WHEEZING AHHHHHHH (sorry for caps , just wanna express my surprise)
@pandorabox5532
@pandorabox5532 3 жыл бұрын
Relatable
@penguinz3438
@penguinz3438 3 жыл бұрын
It’s 666 I can’t like
@MagdalenaMantler
@MagdalenaMantler 3 жыл бұрын
I so remember when in cinema the two sequences - "What do you need?" and "My love is not fragile." - gave me so much warm feelings and I melted into tears. Now I have the exact explanation why. Yes, that is what counts when you really act that way this is what love is about.
@lighthouse_23_
@lighthouse_23_ Жыл бұрын
Just got dumped by a close friend. She barely texted me in the last 3 months. I had said "Our Love is not Fragile" and she turned and used it against me when i said id like a phone call once a month to maintain a friendship. I like how Jonathan talked about emotional shelving and how your emotions DO at some point come off the shelf and Anna's acknowledgement of not paying attention. Its like "Our Love is not Fragile" doesnt give you license to neglect it for months and take my loyalty for granted, my emotions are on a shelf, not stowed away in some underbed bin, forgotten about.
@OrchidSong24
@OrchidSong24 4 жыл бұрын
This is such a thorough and insightful analysis of Kristoff's character! Really well done!
@MendedLight
@MendedLight 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much, Dani! Alan and I are truly thrilled that you enjoyed it. Would you consider passing this vid along? We want to reach everyone who'd dig this.
@CinemaTherapyShow
@CinemaTherapyShow 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@victoriatube159
@victoriatube159 4 жыл бұрын
Watching this has confirmed that my relationship is not weird for not having arguments it's just we have healthy problem solving skills. My parents think we're weird becuase we've never had a yelling argument. We've had plenty of disagreements but we both try to meet the middle or work around or for each others needs
@nin4life97
@nin4life97 4 жыл бұрын
Yess!! Not everyone has those issue especially if you're in a relationship where both of you are emotionally intelligent and not "here" for petty drama/ arguments.
@EH23831
@EH23831 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you... we are the same... sometimes I worry that we maybe aren’t invested enough or something... arguing is so normalised!
@victoriatube159
@victoriatube159 4 жыл бұрын
@@EH23831 like we have disagreements but we look at it as if it's separate from the 2 of us and try to work through it together
@AvitalShtap
@AvitalShtap 4 жыл бұрын
That sounds so healthy and productive for your love! You both are putting so much work into it, kudos :)) that sounds like goals.
@stevenhiggins3055
@stevenhiggins3055 4 жыл бұрын
My relationship is pretty much the same. Though I never thought it was weird. I guess because I had time to mature as an independent person before entering into a relationship, and he's been through enough emotional manipulation to notice the red flags. We disagree, I may even get a little sharp with him at times. But I recognize when I do that, I take ownership, apologize, and try to do better. And I don't think we've ever actually yelled at each other either in the 6 years we've been together.
@goodgollymissmolly7624
@goodgollymissmolly7624 2 жыл бұрын
That discussion on the line “my love is not fragile”, really hit home for me. In my last relationship I struggled with making the same little mistake over and over, despite the fact that I did genuinely try to work on myself; and I felt awful for it. Of course I’d apologize to my partner, but they would say “it’s okay, I’m used to it.” And every time they said that, it dug the knife a little deeper and just took the wind out of my sails. It felt like there was no point in trying, because no matter how I tried it wasn’t good enough. Why try when it’s just going to hurt them when I don’t succeed. Why try when they’re used to it. My partner then was an amazing person, but they had their own flaws. That “catchphrase” of theirs was one of them.
@lindseysquire8417
@lindseysquire8417 4 жыл бұрын
Starting to think Jonathan might be in love with Kristoff (and who could blame him?)
@CinemaTherapyShow
@CinemaTherapyShow 4 жыл бұрын
Oh, there's definitely an attraction there.
@TheNicolevertone
@TheNicolevertone 4 жыл бұрын
Well, that just shows excellent taste.
@PmpknHead
@PmpknHead 4 жыл бұрын
At first I thought you were talking about Jonathan Groff (christoff’s va) and I was like yeah makes sense
@lindseysquire8417
@lindseysquire8417 4 жыл бұрын
@@PmpknHead I love me some Groffsauce.
@gjk-arts5855
@gjk-arts5855 4 жыл бұрын
Mmmm king George
@sleepybatteriezzz
@sleepybatteriezzz 4 жыл бұрын
There's actually a scene from this movie that didn't make the cut where instead of Kristoff's song moment, it's a duet between him and Anna where he pours out all his insecurities to her and she comforts him, then *she* proposes to *him*. I need to go find and watch it again.
@kal-muzel875
@kal-muzel875 4 жыл бұрын
I totally forgot about that
@mothmadi_
@mothmadi_ 4 жыл бұрын
link it!!!!!!
@sleepybatteriezzz
@sleepybatteriezzz 4 жыл бұрын
@@mothmadi_ Here you go! kzbin.info/www/bejne/iaCalHdvd7egfNk
@gwenythice7230
@gwenythice7230 4 жыл бұрын
I wish this was in the movie, wow
@sleepybatteriezzz
@sleepybatteriezzz 4 жыл бұрын
@@gwenythice7230 I know right? Disney threw away something amazing.
@miachilders5750
@miachilders5750 4 жыл бұрын
So much of that culture of 'my needs come first,' especially when it comes to bossing women around I've seen through the insult 'simp' which has surfaced recently. Crazy how being kind to women is something people shame.
@TheHazelnoot
@TheHazelnoot 4 жыл бұрын
If people are doing that they're literally using the slang wrong. The idea of a simp isn't being nice to women. It's being nice to women and expecting them to respond with affection, even if they don't like you or know you, like donating hundreds of dollars a day to a streamer out of a belief that they'll give you a genuine chance. It's not positive behaviour, it's well, delusional.
@Sassi7997
@Sassi7997 3 жыл бұрын
I think the best (and most accurate) description of the word 'simp' are these two definitions from the Urban Dictionary: "a word that everyone overuses w/out the correct definition. it means a guy that is overly desperate for women, especially if she is a bad person, or has expressed her disinterest in him whom which he continues to obsess over. [...] respec waman ≠ simpery." "It is when a male is overly submissive to a female and gains nothing from it. So overly submissive that other guys cringe and feel ashamed when seeing them. This applies to males in relationships when they are so submissive that they say literally anything to be in favor with the female."
@zethcrownett2946
@zethcrownett2946 4 жыл бұрын
That opening line "I'm here, what do you need" was my SO's favorite line and it literally made me feel so happy and loved because I realized just how frequently I hear it from them, from the very start and it felt amazing.
@claireirenecameron4640
@claireirenecameron4640 Жыл бұрын
I never expected to find it in a children's movie, but "my love is not fragile", to me, is the most romantic line from any movie I've seen. I'm not a romantic person, but that line flawed me.
@KR-ue1gd
@KR-ue1gd 4 жыл бұрын
When you said "you can't disagree with an emotion" I felt myself emotionally recoil, because I've been in relationships where the other person defined reality as "what they felt", and then used it to bludgeon me in every disagreement. They felt hurt, therefore I hurt them, and no peace could ever exist unless I apologized and agreed that I was at fault. I'd argue my feelings, and my intent, and the actual facts of the case, and they'd nod and pretend to listen, then double-down on their feelings-based reality. "You can't disagree with an emotion" is a precept that only works with people savvy enough to distinguish between validity and truth. Otherwise, it's an excuse for emotional tyranny.
@vt3039
@vt3039 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I think he's speaking to the side of "I didn't actively mean to offend you with my thoughtlessness, so you can't hold me accountable" problems, which are very common. But another side of healthy emotions is recognizing that your emotions are your own and no one else's, and no one can force you to be upset; your emotions are based on your own beliefs. Therefore, if you're always upset with your partner, it's your job to set concrete boundaries about what changes you need in your space (and be willing to accept that their needs might be totally different and this relationship might not work), not just yell at them and villainize them. Also, mood disorders are a thing.
@goldieh7121
@goldieh7121 3 жыл бұрын
Ugh, I get you. I was always hurting my mom's feelings growing up. Usually it was for things like asking her to put out her cigarette when I was still eating, or not agreeing with something she said. But if I expressed or stated any emotion other than happy and appreciative growing up they saw it as a critique of their parenting and I was being manipulative. I was always apologizing too, never them. Because of this, I think my brother takes the view of feelings are not facts, and sees any form of emotion as illogical. I finally left a friendship where my friend called me too sensitive for tearing up when she told me to f off, yet she was hurt and offended because I set a small boundary. I think it comes down to if the feelings, or sometimes even boundaries, are being used to manipulate. Anyone in my life that used feelings to manipulate me usually told me my feelings were invalid or couldn't handle me expressing any kind of emotion, even when I wasn't using it to get something I wanted. The healthier people in my life expressed emotions without using their feelings to manipulate, while they would validate my feelings. It's definitely a hard thing to navigate when we grew up with emotionally immature caregivers.
@TGPDrunknHick
@TGPDrunknHick 3 жыл бұрын
This here is important. just because someone is hurt by your words or actions does not automatically mean you are at fault and must apologise. it happens and yeah some innocuous things can set people off. if you care about them you figure out what about the action was the problem and why. at the same time you can't let other peoples feelings dictate every interaction you have. if you do, you only hurt yourself because you are shaping yourself around THEIR expectations of you. given this channels focus on other concepts such as gaslighting and so on, this should be recgonised.
@Veboshi
@Veboshi 3 жыл бұрын
First of all I want to say, that I'm very sorry, that you had to experience this. And then, I want to thank you, for your clear and honest words. It helped me to understand and to stop denying, that my behavior towards my husband is, in fact, what you call an "emotional tyranny". And I did it in earlier relationships too. I have to face this and really have to work on this. I'm always respectful and kind to all the other people in my life, why can't I be like this with my husband too? When you wish for a respectful treatment, you have to treat others with respect first... I really have to remember that. And that you can't disagree with an emotion. His emotions are valid too.
@limeylemon1685
@limeylemon1685 3 жыл бұрын
@@Veboshi Im proud of you for realizing that. Self-awareness is the first step!
@LiiiiiiMa
@LiiiiiiMa 4 жыл бұрын
"There's no way to disagree with an emotion." This is such an important point to make, thank you.
@johnmartin4119
@johnmartin4119 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve always believed that when it comes to these movies that Kristoff is really the voice of reason. Especially in the first film where he is often the one who actually thinks like a rational person. He doesn’t just impulsively rush into things like Anna or Olaf, and even though he doesn’t automatically trust others he still has the emotional maturity to help others when they need it and not just isolate himself like Elsa does. Frankly I only wish they used him more in Frozen 2
@LittleHobbit13
@LittleHobbit13 4 жыл бұрын
Fresh off your "Tangled/Gaslighting" video, I wouldn't mind you guys looking at Rapunzel and Eugene's relationship from Tangled through Tangled the Series. Fandom really consistently acknowledges how their relationship is so balanced and how well they communicate with each other, to include some of this "Shelving Your Agenda" you've discussed here. It'd be interesting to see your perspective on how their relationship is depicted.
@krizhiel6376
@krizhiel6376 3 жыл бұрын
YES OMG
@applelayla4532
@applelayla4532 3 жыл бұрын
That would be fantastic if they would do that, however, I don't think it's going to happen because Tangled the series is well, a series. :/
@KaylaKasel
@KaylaKasel 3 жыл бұрын
@@applelayla4532 I agree, but it also seems like they only watch a couple scenes from the movies anyway (not the full movie), so they could break down a series into scenes, in theory. But I could also see how that might not work because it would be a lot to go through and pick out, potentially missing context.
@thisisacrappyusername892
@thisisacrappyusername892 4 жыл бұрын
"I'm here, what do you need?" Panties, dropped
@judeannethecandorchannel2153
@judeannethecandorchannel2153 4 жыл бұрын
Lol... Startled lol...
@preciouslyjulia8116
@preciouslyjulia8116 3 жыл бұрын
HAHAHAHAGFCAYGAAFGSTDDSS UNDERRATED. CHANGE MY MIND ..WHEEZE
@Rose_C_Chyme
@Rose_C_Chyme 3 жыл бұрын
Rofl
@fffernsw4dl539
@fffernsw4dl539 3 жыл бұрын
STOP OMFG HAHSAHYF
@sjami738
@sjami738 3 жыл бұрын
LMFAO FRRRRRR
@sandysiepert7724
@sandysiepert7724 3 жыл бұрын
Can you please discuss Rapunzel and Eugene’s relationship in the animated series? It was done so well! Eugene, to me, is the best Disney male protagonist, period.
@amandahobson1602
@amandahobson1602 2 жыл бұрын
I agree. Especially with the animated series, it shows such a good relationship, lessons learned to understand each other, and support/belief in each other. I think it is one of the most consistantly full relationships in disney.
@7Write4This9Heart7
@7Write4This9Heart7 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed!
@KitCat898
@KitCat898 Жыл бұрын
I couldn’t agree more! They allowed him to be so thoughtful and supportive, expressive of emotions and devoted. He’s the GOAT of Disney men.
@kandyappleview
@kandyappleview 4 жыл бұрын
"the sweet spot in the middle is: no, my needs matter. my feelings matter. but you're upset. you're afraid, you're angry. i'm gonna come back to what i need. but if you're angry i don't have to be angry...but i can care, and i can be present. and anything that i need, we can deal with later." wow that really hit home for me. one of the issues i know i have is feeling like focusing on someone else when i also have a need means i'm accidentally communicating to other people that i don't have needs too. and that instead of experiencing reciprocation, i'll just end up with a deficit. but what you've said here is a great reminder for me-i CAN actually come back to what i need. it's not a deficit, it's just a delay. and to be honest, i can wait. and with that, you guys now have a new subscriber 💗
@KrystoferDudzinski
@KrystoferDudzinski 4 жыл бұрын
Couldn't agree with you more. It's definitely a fear that if you shelve your needs they may never shelve theirs in the future, but that's where two partners each need to learn to be balanced in their approaches to one another. Trust is also the make or break element for a relationship for that kind of balance as well. In my experience if that balance can't be struck and you've really tried to meet their needs and they're not trying to reciprocate at some point, it's good to break it off. It's unhealthy staying in a relationship where you're being always relied upon to sacrifice without getting any respite the other way once in a while.
@kandyappleview
@kandyappleview 4 жыл бұрын
@@KrystoferDudzinski hmmmm this is good. Thank you for sharing. It gives me some things (and relationships) to think about.
@raew.1782
@raew.1782 4 жыл бұрын
"my love is not fragile" When I heard that in The theatre I was actually startled. I didn't know how much I needed to hear that. I have trust issues when it comes to cinematic relationships
@tash8697
@tash8697 3 жыл бұрын
I remember ranting to all my friends about specifically these scenes for a week after we watched the movie together, the fact that kristoff had all these pressing concerns and his own plans but shoved them to the side because he perceived Anna's needs to be more urgent was just so nice to see and I wasn't expecting it. "My love is not fragile" almost made me cry if I'm being honest, he really is the ideal
@zaribelle718
@zaribelle718 4 жыл бұрын
When I heard “I’m here, what do you need?” in the theater I about cried. I was so shocked, great for the writers for showing this in a movie.
@graysonrogers-barnes6302
@graysonrogers-barnes6302 4 жыл бұрын
Someone tell my mom she can't tell me what emotions I'm feeling.
@autumnsred
@autumnsred 4 жыл бұрын
No, you're cold. Put a jacket on! >:(
@graysonrogers-barnes6302
@graysonrogers-barnes6302 4 жыл бұрын
@@autumnsred LOL, accurate. Although they sometimes end up more toxic than that.
@phoeberaymond8781
@phoeberaymond8781 4 жыл бұрын
This
@Luubelaar
@Luubelaar 3 жыл бұрын
@@autumnsred "Jacket (noun) - garment a child puts on when their mother is cold."
@Bee-kv5tx
@Bee-kv5tx 3 жыл бұрын
Don't forget the "why are you crying, I'm not even yelling......"
@debbyda
@debbyda 3 жыл бұрын
The best thing is just watching you guys' healthy friendship!! So healing! Society needs more of this!!!!
@silentshade7975
@silentshade7975 4 жыл бұрын
“You don’t feel that” ...wow, that triggered some unresolved trauma for me from a past relationship. Unrelated, I feel so lucky to live in a time where this sort of content is available and presented in a fun, heartfelt manner.
@kaceynoelchumley6816
@kaceynoelchumley6816 4 жыл бұрын
Kristoff is the goat. But PLEASE do a video on codependency with Anna/Elsa. They NEED it.
@naomibasner7372
@naomibasner7372 3 жыл бұрын
I'd like to see that, too. And also an analysis of multigenerational family dysfunction in both films. The grandfather started the ball rolling with his crimes against nature and indigenous people (which led to Elsa's powers, BTW-- thanks to Mom). The father was damaged by his father's actions AND being orphaned AND having so much responsibility so young. The mother was damaged by exile and fear of revealing herself as "Other." Then they passed all that onto their kids. (Sorry, Psych degree is showing.) There's enough there for a series!
@sarascarpati887
@sarascarpati887 3 жыл бұрын
?
@sarascarpati887
@sarascarpati887 3 жыл бұрын
@@naomibasner7372 could you please explain that better?
@MakoKitten
@MakoKitten 3 жыл бұрын
@@naomibasner7372 Not saying you should start a channel, but, you could start a channel about it. :)
@Himmyjewett
@Himmyjewett 3 жыл бұрын
@@naomibasner7372 you *should* make a channel
@Jadzebra
@Jadzebra Жыл бұрын
7:45 this entire idea is why I realized my relationship was abusive, because even though I did admit to my wrongs and tried my best (from my perspective) to talk it out when it came to something that we could both agree I had done wrong, he was SO focused on making me feel terrible for the things that he thought I had done wrong, that it would escalate to the point where he was screaming at me. I was defending myself as well as I could, but with him telling me that I need to be quiet and stop "yelling" despite the fact that I only spoke in between him yelling at me, it was like a light switch going off in my head. He couldn't admit to his wrongs or stop raising his voice, but accused me of doing the same without even accepting my apology or acknowledging when I took ownership of that. Because in his eyes, he DESERVED that apology so it didn't matter that he's gotten one, but if I expected the same then I was offending him by even insinuating he had done anything wrong. In his eyes, he HADN'T done anything, so he didn't feel the need to apologize or even acknowledge it, and on top of it he felt insulted by my desire for an apology.
@Riahlee072108
@Riahlee072108 4 жыл бұрын
"I'm here. What do you need?" my boyfriend yelled "Yes! That's it!" and started tearing up. It was amazing.
@AleeraKnight
@AleeraKnight 4 жыл бұрын
This song is now so much better for me. I've now cried for Kristoff. You guys have such good input. Also, thank you for teaching me that what I do in relationships is called "shelving my agenda", learned something new.
@CinemaTherapyShow
@CinemaTherapyShow 4 жыл бұрын
If you're already shelving your agenda instead of stuffing your feelings, you're way ahead of the curve! Way to practice positive relationship skills! And yeah, Kristoff deserves our sympathy and understanding.
@EvonneSol
@EvonneSol 2 жыл бұрын
Kristoff is a perfect example of trying something, realizing now's not the time or it's not going to work, and learning from that. And I think that's a lot more powerful than just being perfect. He's a person doing the best they can, trying to learn and adjust, and that's more realistic. I think it's an important lesson to learn from, and one people should think about more. At least try. If you mess it up, try to make it better. He does both quite well.
@swarnimbage9504
@swarnimbage9504 4 жыл бұрын
Having so many saviour tropes in cinema, I bursted out crying at Kristoff's "what do you need?" the first time I watched the movie.
@chillsahoy2640
@chillsahoy2640 4 жыл бұрын
My partner is autistic and often has very low moods. Sometimes they call me and just want reassurance. I'm far from an expert, but from what I've seen it frequently helps when I say "I'm here. Talk to me." and just listen to their concerns, and offer to do what I can to help. This is, I think, what Kristoff has been doing: showing Anna that he is there to help her through her difficult journey.
@SreyaIJ
@SreyaIJ 3 жыл бұрын
Dang, how do I hire Jonathan for my parents? The whole “shelving your agenda” discussion made SO much sense for a lot of their problems! Well, at least it gave me some language to think about it for my own therapy needs.
@defaultuser5495
@defaultuser5495 4 жыл бұрын
This channel is really so underrated, not only is your analysis insightful but your conversations and what you have to say are so interesting too. Your videos always teach me something new!
@Guineapig-yo6fi
@Guineapig-yo6fi 4 жыл бұрын
Agreed!
@paigehubbard3095
@paigehubbard3095 4 жыл бұрын
People actually pay to hear this kind of stuff! And here it is on a free channel
@laurenlongfellow9714
@laurenlongfellow9714 4 жыл бұрын
Anna was honestly annoying for most of the movie. She definitely needs therapy. She’s so worried that Elsa is going to leave her alone again like when they were younger. She’s gotten a complex from it. Can you do a video breaking down all of her insecurities?
@Christina-xc7on
@Christina-xc7on 4 жыл бұрын
Her character arc in this movie is based in (I think) Kristen Bell's own experiences with co-dependency and anxiety, so this was very deliberate!
@giuliaraggio
@giuliaraggio 4 жыл бұрын
I can't disagree with you but let see the facts: Anna was right wanting to follow Elsa to avoiding her for "going to far" because she actually goes too far and almost dies (and Anna, again, saves her), and for the entire movie Elsa makes promises, pushes on her agenda to save Arrendelle, to save the forest and to find her real self, and Anna never says her: "let's talk about this for a moment", never thinks "this is a crazy bitch", she always reminds her sister what the focus of the expedition is, tries to keep her in track, offers emotional support ad reassures Elsa, saying: "i don't want to stop you, i want to help you". And, given the pregress history she is (rightfully) worried about her sister. So, yes, she is annoying but, i think, in the right ways and for the right reasons. I have to say, I'm 33 and I saw this movie the first time i think last year and it has become instantly my favourite animated movie of all time. It has magic, feminism, emotional growt, great male character, sisterhood, dealing with depression, dealing with death, dealing with people you love keeping secrets, and growing up and a lot of other things (as a salamander that purrs, that's actually amazing), so i know the movie word by word, I fell in love with it. Sorry for my english, this is not my first language. I'm italian, I learned english from movies and tv series, so forgive me if I made some mistakes.
@classicambo9781
@classicambo9781 4 жыл бұрын
@@giuliaraggio I haven't seen the movie so can't comment but just wanted to say, you don't need to apologise for your English. That you learnt not only to understand and speak an entirely different language but also write it with near perfect grammar is wholly amazing to me, especially without a teacher and dedicated pedagogical system. You should be truly proud of your achievement and give your opinion without caveats attached.
@The0Matador0
@The0Matador0 4 жыл бұрын
It’s a feminist anti men critique. Why would they analyse the women’s insecurities?
@laurenlongfellow9714
@laurenlongfellow9714 4 жыл бұрын
@@The0Matador0 lol calm down there, incel..
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