Is LEAVING Singapore Overly ROMANTICISED?! (ft. Chrysan Lee) | The Hop Pod Ep.63

[@YouGotWatch]

If money is not a problem, would you guys move abroad & where would you guys move to? ✈🏡

[@tritonyeah]

Not on days when mrt breaks down

[@ashh3884]

She also not PR and only been in Perth for 1 year. Her experience is fresh and new. You need someone who has lived there for 10 years over

[@mikumo7839]

@@ashh3884 Or ask someone who have lived through Covid-19 overseas, our perspectives will be very different from what ppl usually hear

[@tanjunmin9597]

Of course move, move to anywhere that has chio bu.

[@Forbush4Life]

New Zealand

[@tingkuivoh4485]

Hello Singaporean in Berlin, I moved here for work at 29. it was also a now or never thing, I want to go when I am younger so when my mom needs me later, I can always go home. But if I stay longer into my 30s, it will only get harder to leave. Anyway, just want to say the guy is right - for sure you have a pay cut in Europe due to the high tax (40%) for a young professional. But food is cheaper, groceries, not restaurants ah. And you'll just have to learn to cook alot. I never really cooked in singapore - mom cooks or eat cai peng, so LUCKY. So pros of living in EU - more space, I'll never be able to have an apartment with super high ceilings and a huge floor plan at the rent that I pay here in Singapore lah. For this price in singapore, I would still need to share apartment with friends like I did before. So you have more space, more freedom, more time (30 days annual leave), and a culture that is pro-workers. Your colleagues will go on leave and take care of their mental health, 2 weeks, 3 weeks vacation is common. In summary, more space, more freedom, more independence. You also learn to enjoy summer while it lasts - something we dont think about in singapore . Dating is more fun I think, because you will feel more free to date whoever you want, without social pressures at home. So extra plus points for LGBTQ+ young singaporeans (for Berlin in particular) Cons of living in EU - lower pay, things move so much slower here than in singapore (can be a pro if you're burnt out in singapore, lots of singaporeans or expats who lived in singapore only realized how burnt out they were in singapore when they slowed down here), winter lasts so long 8 months, the culture is colder here, less warmth, no food culture, at least not like in singapore, you'll face difficulties like racism sometimes on the streets, at work, et cetera. Youll learn how to deal with it, everyone here has to deal with it. As a girl, you'll have to consider your safety as well on the street, when you're out, at clubs, all this. You have to figure out what is most important for you lor, if money is the most important - stay in singapore. If personal growth is more important, move when you're still young, and go home later to take care of your parents when they need you more. Everything is not like EITHER OR. You can do something now, make the most of your time and youth, and also do other important things later. But no matter what you choose, you need to be steady and have the determination to follow through. And I also never felt more Singaporean than now when I have to almost represent Singapore here, when foreigners are interested in a Singaporean they meet in EU. Not so many Singaporeans here lah. So in conclusion - I would recommend it, not because the grass is greener (it's actually honestly not, infrastructure and administration is 10x better in singapore), but because of your personal growth because it's tough to live overseas and become independent (: I think hard things are good things to learn to get through, and learn and grow.

[@kyliesee4288]

did u have to learn german when u moved to berlin? or do u communicate in english

[@tingkuivoh4485]

@@kyliesee4288 English! In Berlin is still okay. You'll survive, but you won't thrive. Learn German if you want to live here > 2-3 years.

[@anchored555]

Speaking as a Singaporean senior in my 60s who’s been there and done that (ie lived in the U.S., Australia and China), I definitely encourage young people to try living overseas for a while if they have the opportunity. That is a valuable education in itself. Don’t worry about getting mocked by peers if you decide to return home after a while. This “adulting” experience will take you out of your comfort zone, broaden and change your perspective of life and the world, and make you more mature, independent and resilient eg you learn to cook, clean and take care of yourself, etc. Over time, you will know whether you like it enough to stay overseas permanently, or whether you want to return to SG because of family, money, or convenience. Nothing ventured, nothing gained. When I was in my 20s, I wanted to emigrate to the West because it seemed more attractive with four seasons, more space, big nature, cheaper houses and cars, etc. However, in my 60s, what’s more important to me now, apart from proximity to family, is personal safety, and easy access to first world medical care, and daily conveniences. The smallness of SG also means we are really a 10 minute city where every daily convenience is no further than a 10-15minute ride away. Plus, in SG, I can age at home with my own helper to care for me, instead of relying on institutional care, as would be the case in the West. SG is also a major air and sea hub, which means that in less than an hour, I can be at the airport or cruise terminal to fly or sail to almost anywhere in the world. Few other places in the world offer this level of convenience and connectedness. So I have difficulty understanding those who keep complaining about how small SG is. Frankly, even having lived here more than 60 years, I can’t say I’ve seen every tiny part of SG. To me, SG is like the capital city of a huge Asian hinterland, ready for me to explore at will.

[@litcseow6725]

Went out of SG in my late 20s in 1996 to do my bachelor's in US. Worked there from 2000 ~ 2010. Thereafter I got a job posting in Shanghai from 2010 - 2019. Learnt everything from scratch - cooking, driving, winterization... all by myself. Made a lot of friends in US and Shanghai. Built a good retirement fund and create assets along the way. Went through 2008 US recession and covid with no job for 1.5 yrs each. It really toughens yr mental being and character. What an experience ! I am back in sg since 2019 finally. Never regretted going out of SG when I was younger.

[@nicholasgoh3526]

I would encourage all young people to work overseas. Do it when you have no or minimal obligations at home. Grab the opportunity and Never go for the money first. The money will take care of itself as long as you can contribute and give value. The experience, hardships, good times and the people you meet will be worth more than the money and will benefit you for life. However you must have the right mindset and attitude. Be humble and learn as much as you can. Have an abundance mindset and contribute as much as you can. Take stock and plan your next move periodically. You will know whether to stay or comeback to Singapore when the time comes so don’t worry too much about it.

[@Marrakesh940]

Singaporean living in Perth - it’s all about what you want. My partner and I met in Perth during Uni, but I had to come back to SG to finish a bond. We waited patiently and 8 years later, we’re back in Perth and loving it. If you want the city life and air travel convenience, Singapore is the place. Otherwise for us, Perth is more convenient in some aspects like driving straight to the front of supermarkets, the gym, the post office. In Singapore you fight the traffic turning into malls, you fight to get a lot. By the time you get to your destination, you’ve spent 15 to 20 minutes (sometimes longer) just trying to park. I don’t understand the negativity for Perth because we have convenience stores open 24/7, Thursday nights are “late night shopping” (till 9.30pm lol), a huge amount of Asian restaurants with some damn good dim sum. Organic food is way cheaper here, you can own your dream car for a fraction of the price, housing is a fraction of the price, the work life balance here is so strong too! But of course, our experiences are all different. I have friends who love the US because they studied there, whilst my partner and I absolutely abhor the US. All the best in everything you guys!

[@tammitan9004]

Part of moving overseas is to open up your mind and world view. If people are narrowly focused on "making it" so they can be perceived a certain way when they return, then in a way they haven't really left. When you do the hard things in life, people don't always understand and there are times you will have to walk alone. Being born and raised in SG we always want a safe back up plan. But life happens and sometimes we need to take some risks and open ourselves to possibilities. Then you'll find that you've grown in so many ways whether that means you are returning home with more money and status to brag about.

[@flightsimulater12]

What people never realize is, despite some things being cheaper overseas, like thailand or malaysia, it's usually because of the strength of the SGD. If you earn in their currency, you'll earn in a currency that's not as strong and therefore things may still appear expensive.

[@Bedminton-z6t]

It’s quite typical of Singaporean overthinking like these four, maybe except the girl that went Perth. You are young , go & explore. It will only develop you regardless of good or bad experiences. Of course not life & death situations. We are too sheltered, most don’t have the explorer mindset. Go & experience the unknown. Even if u have thot of it. It’s the inaction that make u fall bk to yr comfort zone. Coincidentally, I went Perth. It was a wonderful experience, both good & bad. Loneliness, … excitement, … are experiences that you will remembered and get to know the real you. U will look at Sg differently. U will grow, independent, mature, know the important things & people in your life. U actually grew closer to people in Sg when u don’t get to see them as & when u can.

[@N4tur4lX]

thats what nic literally mentioned at around 12:47 onwards

[@rileystein6195]

As an American who lived in singapore for 6 years, I can't imagine living anywhere other than Singapore. America is such a mess right now and I'm desperate to leave and give up my citizenship.

[@eugenetan6589]

If money is not a problem, most people will stay in Singapore.

[@jefri4176]

Yeah agree. Can just jet off often to other parts of the world for holiday

[@Jack-hy2ki]

Not the money. It's the contentment.

[@xxxcool2565]

People who have never been outside SG don't appreciate just how good SG really is. Most frog in the well Singaporeans only focus on the negatives and then proceed to migrate only to find out things they take for granted like efficiency or safety does not compare to SG.

[@jigsoree]

Oh please people who been outside SG says the opposite too of what you are saying too. Pros and cons everywhere stop with your unnecessary glazing.

[@incognito.alocasia]

So, what do the people who have been outside say? ​@@jigsoree

[@scythazz]

Basically… living overseas is a change of perspective. There’s pros and cons to living everywhere. Some countries do some things better than Singapore and Singapore has its flaws too. The whole point of living overseas is to change your perspective. This whole Singapore is great so why move is just closed minded.

[@xxxcool2565]

@@scythazz the point is stop talking $&it about SG/Gov/PAP la. That's my point. If you want to migrate, fine nobody stopping. But stop trying to talk smack about SG/PAP/SG Gov and take that as a reason to migrate.

[@monnabarry]

Yeah I grew up as TCK. From Singapore, grew up in South Africa as a child and lived for a bit in Canada and now Australia for university. I have some family living in Netherlands. When people in Singapore talk to me about how much they hate or just want to leave, I can't totally understand because I think there is good aspects of living in Singapore. No where is perfect to live

[@Zephquel]

Wow. Similar in so many ways. Impulsively dropped everything in SG, and moved myself over to BKK. No concrete plans etc. Doing better now but yes, that SG hustle mentality is hard to get over and most of my stress stems from the hardships of finding a job.

[@elizabethchin5463]

Wah, when Chrysan said she lost her sense of self by just focusing on studies and not knowing why she was so sad suddenly, made me tear up. Hope you swing by NZ soon, Q!

[@SazalibinkamsirSazali-zu5yo]

Ms,Sylvia dont cry make me felling sad.❤nice to see you went you know the true.im from singapore love horse racing 2001 to 2024 in out in group .

[@cuclainne]

Low taxes, convenience of getting things done, cheap eats, easy access to healthcare, etc.. can't get that in Scandinavia.

[@hongsienkwee537]

Don't bother about what others think or see at you, its how you handle this whether it becomes a 'problem'.....young people worry too much how others perceive you which actually is a waste of time, and you can't become yourself instead you become that other 'you' that you want others to perceive you are. Living overseas and living alone, cooking for yourself is a very good experience, especially for young Singaporeans, who in the recent past seldom go live overseas......learn other cultures (good and bad is all part of life). I did the other way around, went to Singapore in 1990-1991 then 1994 till 2018 to study and work, had so many SG friends and still contact them after 20-30 years

[@jbrkjferkjbekjb]

I relate to Q in loving the peaceful environment in places like NZ and Japan with its rich culture... Singapore is starting to develop these in some of our parks but tbh we still have a v long way to go as we're a young country still hyperfocussed on building wealth and "GDP"

[@scorpioo]

I love sg not sure why everyone else wants to leave 😂

[@stephenlim2852]

Me too. I love it so much in Sg. Most of my colleagues overseas want to move to sg :)

[@tingkuivoh4485]

omg can I just say Q's skin is SO GOOD.

[@sleefy2343]

Depends on the person I’m young singaporean but both my parents are foreigners so I tend to go back and forth with Thailand , Japan and Singapore as homes right now I’m in Japan with my Japanese girlfriend so ye

[@Ko911ed]

People mountain people sea....😅😅 Most ppl in sg can't stop working, can't stop thinking abt work.... Most ppl dun get a chance to stay overseas for an extended period of time for work, study.... so most of us are kinda stuck in sg, and inevitably a more closed mindset...

[@tinyblackmage]

The reality is: as a professional, moving to many other countries would be a downgrade in salary. Not worth at all. Travelling for holiday is not the same as moving overseas, life is pretty shit overseas as well

[@joeyyyiqi]

I like how it makes me feel. Iconic 🤣

[@libraries144]

that QR code grave idea is great

[@MoneywithEumi]

I still want to go back to Singapore though... But no opportunity :(

[@shawnlee4933]

Go holiday can already abit bored when oversea

[@shuhuicho8674]

Can anyone please link me to the episode of Singaporeans being generally unsupportive of each other that was mentioned towards the end of this episode? Would love to hear more on that :D

[@YouGotWatch]

Here you go! kzbin.info/www/bejne/iX7ZZ5KnoMp5qbssi=EnOVAc6kmU6DMgbu

[@Platypusjessine]

21:00, wat episode was that?

[@YouGotWatch]

Hello, here’s the episode! kzbin.info/www/bejne/iX7ZZ5KnoMp5qbssi=EnOVAc6kmU6DMgbu

[@SazalibinkamsirSazali-zu5yo]

if outsider going must bring out Let dame know.

[@josephwong274]

ah meng

[@Q.lyqian]

ah meng

[@YouGotWatch]

AH MENG

[@nicholasyeam]

ah meng

[@ChristineTohXH]

ah meng. trackpad is not the problem, lol

[@joietan]

AH MENG!!!!!

[@chowqianling2141]

DED AT THE BOONLAY-IAN

[@Mrteddyable]

Trackpad not the problem. Definitely skill issue 🤪

[@FrancesTaylor-j3q]

7076 Jackson Bypass

[@DumpingTroll]

Lets count how many “like” is spoken.

[@joietan]

In our almost 25-min long conversation, we spoke 4870 words and the word “like” was used 24 times. So for every 202 words, the word “like” was used once. Hope this helps! 😀

[@RoyvenGo]

15:55 love it! hahaha so fun to watch whenever Q laughs at Nic 🤣 ngl always anticipating for such moment. at this point, im laughing at Q's reaction instead of Nic's random facts/thoughts/experiences.

[@JuzNicky]

another entry into the Yeamster archives !

[@Q.lyqian]

@@RoyvenGo i’m always on standby for his random facts 😵‍💫

[@RoyvenGo]

@@Q.lyqian my condolences 🥲🙆🏻‍♂️

[@chewyiryu4715]

ah mengggg

[@ggg1815]

Singapore so small, you're never going to learn anything about the world if you stay here your whole life.

[@Oldlee-g6r]

Oh princess

[@janana426]

i hate chic fil a fries

[@ABC-l1q]

Why did a bunch of, presumably late 20’s to mid 30’s adults suddenly got squeamish when the very practical issue of sex and noise came up?

[@sleepy_dobe]

Why do Gen Zs speak this way? Every 5th-6th word in each sentence is "like", even when it's unnecessary. It's actually not a good way to speak. Do you hear top execs, professionals, CEOs, politicians, English teachers, judges etc talk this way?

[@nkc1508]

If $ is not an issue then should relocate to your favourite country but priority to learn local language and live like a local as SIN got too much ‘hi’ = hi temperature / hi property , rental , car $ , hi 6.o4m population , higher food $ increasing non stop but with stagnant salary , hi robotic life , incorrigible hi paid govt servants yet one greedy one recently going to changi relax for a year , hi … etc … yes most SIN pax could withstand all these hi and travel frequently given SIN too tiny space but with strong SGD , no to say other countries’ moon is brighter nor grass is greener , it’s simply the overseas relax lifestyle , lesser stress education , better work life balance , more space for kids , affordable house and vehicle , 4 seasons, etc … allowing some moving to overseas long term like me , while plenty toads in well simply too pampered in their own comfy zone living in safe and clean SIN but how I wish they could see many cities is cleaner than SIN and as safe as SIN or safer than SIN especially in road traffic courtesy eg. zebra crossing

[@SazalibinkamsirSazali-zu5yo]

Thank you if you Leaning more deep and more faster before the horse racing start im still look any group share in comment .im not so clever person .Np pure water kaki.now( C4 )