Is net zero worth losing jobs over? | The Daily T Podcast

[@SisterAbdullahX]

We aren’t seeing “increased incidents of very very destructive weather”. We’ve always had floods.

[@fredericdodin3015]

A few figures: The Earth is 5 000 000 000 years old, temperature has been measured with a thermometer for 200 years, with satellites for 40 years. The bottom line is that we don't know whether the weather variations of the last century follows an existing patern or not

[@ommanomnom]

Ex Geophysics student here. We do know that climate change is eternal due to many bits of evidence, tree rings, carbon dating, many isotopes, silt and glacial ice core samples etc. Climate has always gone up and down extremely. We have no possibility of stopping it. No matter what.

[@duckndive.]

Come on, a petition for a proper debate on this green energy is needed or a referendum.

[@willyhill7509]

The UK produces 0.9% and falling of CO2 emissions worldwide, China 33% and rising, whatever we do makes no difference because if we just gave up all energy usage and went back to the stone age China alone would replace our savings within a year or so. Don't even mention Indonesia and India who are going to to see the same rapid industrialisation as China in the coming decades.

[@unblessedcoffee1457]

And there was I, thinking we had been told Net Zero would CREATE jobs. Another empty promise.

[@andybrice2711]

Plug-in hybrids are probably the most practical drivetrain for most people. It seems like the government is trying to jump straight to EVs without a reasonable transition via mild hybrids, "self-charging" hybrids, and then plug-in hybrids.

[@rogerphelps9939]

Hybrids, paricularly the disingenuously named mild and self charging variety are a scam. They do very little o reduce CO2 emissions.

[@DavidMeikle-ei7fr]

There's only 1 job loss required - Mental Miliband

[@methyleneblue4659]

Please explain? I don't understand how 'clean energy is cheaper'. If so why have China just built 43 coal fired power stations which feed the factories that make the solar panels and lithium batteries they supply to us in the UK.

[@danielmaddox2734]

The government is bleeding us dry and also expecting us to pay more for a less practical vehicle

[@rogerphelps9939]

More practical. Never need to buy petrol ever again. Wake up in the morning with a full tank. Through life costts already lower than ICE and purchase prices will very soon be lower. All that is needed is a massive roll out of convenient affordable charging for those who are not fortunate to have off road parking.

[@tonylee1893]

Automotive industry will be completely destroyed by end of this parliament without U turn by Milliband

[@mikeolly67]

One question Ive never seen an answer to is, "what exactly would the revenue generated by the ZEV mandate fines be spent on, and how would this revenue have a direct impact on the UK carbon emissions?" As a country we generate 1% of global emissions , no matter what we do is going to have any impact what so ever, so what exactly is the real reason for the push towards vehicle electrification? could it be control ?

[@AdrianWhyatt]

Why not hybrids as a transition via hybrids which run on electric when going relatively slowly, and on petrol/diesel when going faster?

[@kynchan3332]

Alarmists tell me climate change has made terrible weather happen, all stemming from fossil fuel consumption. So presumably if CO2 levels were in their acceptable range (some make belief number less than 400) there would not be any bad weather. Now we can look at the the Great storm of 1703, lets see CO2? Anything bigger in the UK ever since?

[@jcfallows]

It's this guy was talking 12 years ago it was more relevant about EVs but now at the end of 2024 it is absolute lies! Who gave him the right to talk on our behalf!!

[@andybrice2711]

These sales targets seem needlessly complicated. If the government wants to encourage EVs, why not just decrease VAT on EVs, and increase it on petrol vehicles?

[@SusanClarke-o5q]

We aren't blaming Brexit then? That seems quite ideological.

[@ChrisVaughan-gj7ve]

If it’s Ed Milibands Job then yes absolutely

[@danhorton771]

Weather tax.

[@cunawarit]

We are undoubtedly living in fascinating times. A legally binding Net Zero target is a bold and ambitious move-one that could ultimately position a country as either a trailblazing hero or a cautionary tale. While I sincerely hope and pray for everyone's well-being regardless of the outcome, I can't deny that witnessing this unfold feels like a moment made for popcorn. And I had a Vauxhall Astra, it was a terrible car. Truly depressing motoring.

[@mikeallen2914]

Worth it to who? It's worth it to those who don't have to worry about having a job. But if no one has a job we can all worship Klaus for our allowance. That's worth it for him and his minions.

[@StephenStyring]

Miliband hasn’t got a clue

[@prashantkotak5181]

"Is net zero worth losing jobs over?" Well yes, it is from China's point of view. So Miliband is doing an excellent job for the CCP. I imagine it will eventually emerge that Ed has been a long term sleeper agent. But, by then he will have legged it to his luxury penthouse in Shenzhen.

[@rogerphelps9939]

It is also worh it from your grandchildren's point of view. They migtht just have lives worth living if we get to net zero, otherwise 4 deg temperature rise will be apocalyptic.

[@kynchan3332]

@@rogerphelps9939 It will be fine. They were teaching us about global warming in the 1980's. Some were certain the world would end by 2020, I bet £1M it would be still fine. Now those I bet with don't want to show themselves (I am at least honorable and can give each their due but those who owe me are cowards like the hypocritical green brigade). The world has been warmer and colder. Net zero is a massive political con to extract as much tax from each person.

[@kynchan3332]

@@rogerphelps9939 It will be fine. They were teaching us about global warming in the 1980's. Some were certain the world would end by 2020, I bet £1M it would be still fine. Now those I bet with don't want to show themselves (I am at least honorable and can give each their due but those who owe me are cowards like the hypocritical green brigade). The world has been warmer and colder. Net zero is a massive political con to extract as much tax from each person.

[@earnestequivocation6250]

I was here ten million years ago and weather fluctuations have always happened……pumping billions of tonnes of chemicals into the atmosphere 24/7 is not relevant. Do I get my $ Pay check$ now boss?

[@sej8806]

Don’t show this video to the executives at Jaguar.

[@EricThompson-b7z]

Will not work the customer base is not there ,ordinary people can't afford ev,s and the inferstucture is not there

[@Baldnesz]

Lack if critical thinking and not a lot of knowledge about where the technology is.

[@martinoconnor923]

Vauxhall cavalier was the car of choice for young men? Put a XR or GTI on the end of that …. Makes me doubt the rest of his comments……..

[@purplekenny1964]

Complains that the public don't believe in electric cars then proceeds to trash electric cars. States "many many people have gone back to ICE cars" when in fact 93% of BEV car owners would not go back to ICE cars. In the meantime car manufactures don't want to move to electric and quite happy to produce ICE cars. In the meantime the Chinese have already done it.

[@teryd5672n]

When will people learn that the climate changes anyway.

[@CJWFell]

We won't be making vehicles we will just import them from China. £15K fine for each vehicle. We will just be driving second hand as an alternative and not replacing our cars.

[@mattyr40]

Just blame it on brexit

[@mattyr40]

Funny how the airports are all adding more and more flights each year though isnt it?

[@lisztian2007]

It is Labour turn, if Labour cannot do it, please Change to other party

[@carmelconti5993]

Spot on

[@purplekenny1964]

Norway have already moved to BEV.

[@mikeolly67]

whats your point? florida is a lot warmer than the uk, they eat dogs in china, its illegal to feed pigeons in venice, what happens in norway is irrelevant to the UK.

[@tusken2305]

The incompetence and sheer stupidity of politicians is mind boggling

[@Baldnesz]

The ignorance of the MM journalists and much of the public is as expected

[@scacomatto]

Smithfield not Spitalfields

[@KismetMulhaneski-to3wg]

I can think of one or two jobs or more. And they're all by the River Thames...

[@advocate1563]

In a word, no.

[@alexanderlazarev3570]

The Greatest BOJO British dream (read drama) is OVER !

[@TonyHills-c2d]

The Politburo & Pravda think do.

[@Dungshoveleux]

No

[@georgethompson453]

Hydrogen is more likely to replace ICE cars. They are plenty of unused charging points around where I live so it’s not just charging infrastructure that’s putting people off buying EV’s.

[@purplekenny1964]

It won't.