Is Now The Time to Leave Law Enforcement?

Is Now The Time to Leave Law Enforcement?
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[@johnsnyder5470]

Wore a badge for 40 years and been retired for five. NO WAY would I recommend law enforcement as a career for anyone for many reasons, not the least being the recent political climate.

[@tamaralaird3389]

how many drugs did you put on innocent people?

[@TstormVA2012]

I can understand. Not being able to brutalize and racially profile. Now that's there accountable - abusers should leave.

[@jacobg109]

Hey I'm normal for ranking on cops like this, but I'd like here this out could you explain why?

[@jeffc1347]

Thank you for your service and don't be bothered by the idiots in the comments section, if they had to do one shift in law enforcement they'd be in tears by the end of it.

[@lorijsp8813]

Jeff P thank you for being the voice of reason - exactly what I was thinking. ❤️🇺🇸

[@matthewjohnson1317]

I am a black man and have been in law enforcement for 17 and I’m praying to get to 20 so I can retire.

[@Raygun34]

🤔😑 what does that matter many of the cops who I've had issues with look just like me.

[@akdoss1337]

Thank you for all you do!!!

[@eileeneclark9011]

6/16/20...GOD bless & protect you....

[@kelleyfisher6932]

Matthew Johnson I feel for you. I’m in a career that helps people. If I got smeared based on the actions of a few, I would be so disappointed.

[@Fedgery007]

Thank you for your service!

[@germanshepherdsage1243]

37,000$ a year? That’s pathetic. Poor guy. I don’t blame him. He sounds like a wonderful person. My husband is a former cop. He left the field. It’s not worth it

[@stephencrutchfield2032]

He has less than 3 years of experience. I started in law enforcement making $29,000. No police job rewards rookies...they take care of the officers that have the nut and toughness to stick around. I make 77k now with 12 years in.

[@cellogirl11rw55]

@@stephencrutchfield2032 Thank you for your service!

[@unelectedleader6494]

Yeah use cameras for speeders. Legalize most dope. Empower us all with strong self defense laws and nationwide carry and castle doctrine.

[@Julie-ip3il]

Bleacher McAdams a dev makes that same amount with 3-4 years experience. People now change careers multiple times in their lives so staying 12 years isn’t as common. If it’s what he is passionate about he should consider staying but it sounds like a lot of work for very little pay.

[@JA-re8gi]

He's obviously working in small town/county. Denver PD starts at 80k. Regardless, now days I would not recommend anyone becoming a street cop in the United States it's too physically and legally dangerous.

[@AnishChari]

Being a cop used to be one of those respectable jobs that offered limited upward mobility but the feeling you were doing good, like nurses or teachers. Nowadays I can't see any upside.

[@Nepthu]

@@xzavier8184 He was talking about cops.

[@imdifferentMr843]

Nepthu I wouldn’t even bother

[@mertz313]

@@xzavier8184 Yeah but nursing sucks and many of us want to quit lol. -A nurse

[@dobber1641]

Unfortunately, too many bad apples and cops not weeding them out effectively themselves has led to the deterioration of the respectability of cops

[@DF-we4pt]

They ruined a good thing, I guess. Now it’s one of the worst professions and they did it to thrmslves. No self respecting citizen would be a cop I hope they all walk off en masse

[@stayathomemarine]

I served in the Marines for 7 years and honestly I have contemplated becoming a sheriff's deputy or a police officer. But after all of this controversy.. the thought of doing that as a career makes me cringe.

[@gloopgloopglorp]

People who want to help people become fire fighters and EMTs, people who want to control others become cops

[@MichaelP-ke1tm]

You don't have the physical strength a male cop has to hurt someone so don't worry about it

[@stayathomemarine]

@@gloopgloopglorp I'm not sure I agree with your statement, but I respect your opinion.

[@stayathomemarine]

@@MichaelP-ke1tm I don't know if you have a hard time reading - but as I stated before, I survived the Marine Corps. So, I'm sure I would do fine in the police academy. But thanks for your concern.

[@brannycespedes6027]

@@stayathomemarine What was your MOS? Have you considered rejoining the Corps? Or going to a different branch?

[@philbrownred6500]

So a cop is calling Dave Ramsey asking should I be a cop or not! We're in more trouble than I thought!

[@gabeperez7565]

This guy is looking out for his family and himself. He's asking Dave about the 25k that he can be held liable for. And come to found out with his income it's not worth him to be possibly charged that if that where to happen.

[@danielfarrell8819]

@Kertigen1 You mean, cops would have support if they didn't do what the politicians, that you voted for, told them to do? Kewl

[@ralphholiman7401]

He asked the question a whole bunch of cops are asking. They can all see which way this thing is heading and know they need to get out and do something else, but they want to know that they can provide for their family if they do it.

[@Scorpiomaj27889]

It's the natural progression of things, if you're opening cops up to personal liability they'll get sued every time a running suspect sprains an ankle. It's absolute insanity. Of course, a lot of money to be made (from you the taxpayer) to increase police wages, because the next logical steps is each officer would need personal insurance policies. This will harm policing further, because rates would have to go up if you had certain types of incidents, so the police would have to shy away from everything.

[@CaBdosdos]

Yeah seriously your livelihood in the hands of a guy who is speaking to Dave instead of a state licensed therapist. Imagine the guys and gals who didn't even call!

[@ripvanwinkle4532]

Police will need to get malpractice insurance like Doctors.

[@candirockstar135]

Welp do we give a flip?! You ever think taxpayers want to stop footing the bill for hundreds of millions of dollars paid to people who were brutalized by cops who knew they had no personal liability???

[@konye618]

... They already have that. It's called a union, also called a fraternity

[@Ethiopianraver]

I've been thinking about this, if the department as a whole gets malpractice insurance and the rates are based on the number of incidents the department has, then hopefully that'll further encourage cops to root out the bad apples since it's going to impact their paychecks.

[@s_1408]

They can't afford malpractice insurance

[@Christophernorbits]

The city pays the benefits if something happens

[@Fedgery007]

I honestly don’t understand why anyone would want to be a police officer anymore. It’s not worth it.

[@darex0827]

Depends on the city I guess. I bet a good, middle America police job would be pretty nice. In a big city, nope. Transfer Fire Fighter, no one has a hate for them yet.

[@TstormVA2012]

Yeah...accountability sucks.

[@alexiscoden1424]

Dave J because people hate the police for no reason right? Lollllll

[@ralphholiman7401]

The public is about to get what a lot of them think they want. I hope they’re ready.

[@ja4120]

Someone has to do it, and if that’s where the Lord calls you then it’s your duty to do your best.

[@moise7648]

This is not a good time to be a police officer

[@perotal]

Yeah, finally they MIGHT be held accountable when they do stupid $hit. Sad time to be a cop indeed....

[@ellmc95]

But a real good time for citizen's.

[@4everArtista]

Never been a good time to be an African American. So...

[@foford2010]

It's not a good time to be a BAD police officer.

[@ralphholiman7401]

@@perotal , one of the funniest things we used to do, was to call up anti-cop journalists and ask them if they wanted to run through some of our shoot/don't shoot training. Many were interested, and the ones that did, had a lot better understanding of what it means to make a split second life altering decision with less than perfect knowledge of the facts, after shooting a couple of people with cell phones, or deaf mutes reaching for their wallet, or undercover officers.

[@stewbugz5213]

My husband left after 9 1/2 years. It was worth it! he makes 3 times what he did as a police officer! Take the risk and get out, your life is worth it, your family needs you! God Bless

[@cristobalgutierrez8005]

what's he doing now, if you don't mind me asking. TIA

[@Donnyboy349]

Thanks for this comment. I needed it!!

[@stewbugz5213]

@@cristobalgutierrez8005 he’s a foreman for a mine.

[@mattsmillennialmoney39]

I don't take a side on this argument but officers should be held responsible for their actions on the job just like any worker doing any job should

[@HisWayIsTheWay]

They are...

[@guruguru8826]

@@HisWayIsTheWay no they say they feared for there life and get off

[@ambernicole8634]

Is this a liability insurance?

[@ThaiGui27]

amalie storms qualified immunity is a thing.

[@marcusarelius]

That's not what we're discussing here.

[@greenAbbot]

Requiring policemen to take some personal responsibility for their own choices is in NO WAY the same thing as suggesting that most police are racist.

[@bonnevillebagger9147]

The criminals need to take responsibility for their actions. IE don’t take a lethal dose of fentanyl.

[@mikeyserrano9748]

@@bonnevillebagger9147 People who are arrested are actually held accountable, unlike the police

[@foford2010]

@@mikeyserrano9748 say it louder.

[@bonnevillebagger9147]

Mikey Serrano just because you don’t like the fact that criminals are responsible for the predicaments they find themselves in. Doesn’t make it any less true.

[@mikeyserrano9748]

@@bonnevillebagger9147 Did you read my comment at all? People are held accountable for actions. It's the cops who are constantly getting away with brutalizing citizens

[@mrscastillo8444]

We're going to lose a LOT of GOOD cops.

[@foford2010]

Nope just the BAD ones.

[@cornelio7694]

I agree I’m in law enforcement and have seen it trust me I’m one of them that stepped down .

[@yodaflyz]

It's most likely we will lose every cop regardless of how good they are. Sadly, we really need the good ones but the bad ones really got to go.

[@SomnambulistCraze]

How do you figure? They're so good at heart they will just leave so they wont be held accountable for being negligent. boo hoo.

[@NS-pf2zc]

It breaks my heart. So many good people who work so hard and put their lives on the line to get crapped on. It's just sickening.

[@brettwaddell5021]

24 Years in Law Enforcement and I am hanging it up two weeks from today. The criminal justice system has gone haywire in its entirety. I didn't start this job for popularity, but now there is way more risk than I am willing to take in terms of safety and finances. I am taking a pay cut to move on, but feel I have no choice.

[@tonyott1377]

All the FTP, ACAB, DEFUND, AUDITS and any other anti-police movements that are mainstream now a days are a direct result of THEIR OWN ACTIONS!!! DUMBEST MOST CORRUPT "profession" IN AMERICA!!! They EARN THE HATE every single day one video at a time!!! Maybe they should learn the LAW and not violate citizens' RIGHTS!!!

[@underthelibertytree712]

Now IS the time to leave law enforcement. It is no longer worth the risks involved both financially and physically. I am looking at my options to get out.

[@tamaralaird3389]

Don't let the Door hit you on your way out. bye!!!!

[@TT.100]

Thank you for your service.

[@TT.100]

@@tamaralaird3389 hopefully you don't the police ever in your life. Because I hope this comment gives you some karma right back.

[@majordudette]

My town still values our PD - I’m sure there are many towns like mine you could move to.

[@christofl6523]

@@tamaralaird3389 Are you visiting your man in the can this week?

[@kingtitan6964]

After 13 years I left LE, I went back to school; Got a degree in cybersecurity and went into tech., best decision ever

[@9770G]

how much do u make in cyber security? also where were u a LEO and what did u make then?

[@ciarraw711]

There should be actions taken against officers who aren’t doing their job correctly! This guy is not a victim and shouldn’t have anything to worry about if he is doing his job correctly.

[@christhomas1708]

Until something happens, even if he is doing his job "correctly". What is "correct" is subjective.

[@Terrytimemedia]

Ciarra Walker That kkkops is worried because he knows he is a bad apple.

[@bridgetandrade349]

Melatainment - I agree with you

[@dp4kallday]

The problem is that the "good cops" aren't speaking up against the crooked ones so they are grouped in with the bunch.

[@perotal]

@@dp4kallday Yeah. The problem is the culture is toxic. I am sure the good cops are afraid of being called "rats" if they speak up ...

[@dopeskaterat95]

For 37k and that kind of potential weight on his shoulders I would leave too

[@universalask]

In the north east they make like 200k. What kind of welfare wage is he getting?

[@jermarcus15]

@@universalask not true, which state pays cops that?

[@universalask]

@@jermarcus15 it is very true. NYPD - New York City. Some municipalities in New Jersey. Im talking with overtime pay.

[@jermarcus15]

@@universalask well yes if they kill themselfves with over time of course.. but that’s not standard nor common.

[@Kathaoir]

what's money worth when you sell your dignity. when you became the hypocrite one no money can save you. its not about money its about a lot of love in the world where you have no part in no more since you on the wrong team. police these days is obvious the oppression of humanity, to make the poor listen and work to/for the rich

[@too-da-loo]

It's not a good time to be a BAD police officer.

[@ralphholiman7401]

Or a good one, either. And, that's the problem.

[@michaelhunsinger8351]

@@ralphholiman7401 Took the words right out of my mouth.

[@gmilla2825]

ALL cops have been tried in the courts of nightly MSM and found guilty. Period. It’s sickening.

[@crispblox3000]

Exactly!! Big difference.... huge.

[@et1016]

I think law enforcement officers in this nation should simply walk off the job and let folks fend for themselves. No calling 911, deal with it yourself.

[@ralphholiman7401]

Happy Place , that is coming, without a doubt.

[@crispblox3000]

The police are being defunded so there will be someone/another agency to call for non-violent matters- just not them. Bit too trigger happy these days.

[@em34ev3r]

What do you think they do in the RED States? Texas absolutely takes care of itself. Not everybody is from a whimpering cowering state like California...Your best defense is yourself. PERIOD.

[@KevinMcMullen.]

Hey David I am an ex Sheriffs Deputy. I quite about 4 years ago. I know exactly what you are going through. Quitting was the hardest decision I have made it made me feel sick to my stomach. Most people don't realize the hard process you go through just to become a cop. Then your paid next to nothing. I was only paid 39k a year. Although I miss the job I can say it was the right move for me. I started a business and am now debt free and have 10 times the networth I had when I was a Deputy. Not to mention I have more time and I don't have to deal with the worst society has to offer anymore. A lot of my friends have left. Like Dave said they are losing the good ones. I wish you the best. You and your family are more important. Wish you the best.

[@fortis619]

If you don’t mind me asking , what made you quit ?

[@conserveamerica5374]

You started at 39k, right? Because cops make more than that.

[@johnnyboy3570]

Very sad what they have done to law enforcement here

[@CatSpew1000]

The pay increases each year if they pass review. Also good benefits and retirement if the local government is run well. But most counties and cities have major budget deficits right now because of incompetent government.

[@em34ev3r]

Your mistake was going local....Never ever apply for podunk police agencies. You should have either enlisted in the military or applied for a federal LE gig.

[@boondockpaint]

Now is the time for the 90 percent of officers who are excellent heroes to call out and stand up against the 10% who they know are unfit to be a law enforcement officer. Walking away is apart of the problem. We as Americans have to face our problems. We've been walking away long enough!

[@graceandglamor]

👏🏽 👏🏽 👏🏽

[@alicia_shaun]

Thank you!

[@greenAbbot]

Exactly.

[@NomastiAfricanWarlord]

Excellent cops looking the other way while their fellow officers abuse their authority is why we're in this mess to begin with. Look to Floyd's death. If just one of those officers told him to stop, that man would be alive and we likely wouldn't have had all these riots and protests (at least not in this current time). But those cops, like many others, towed the line when push comes to shove.

[@HisWayIsTheWay]

They have been...

[@tomcarrow]

My dad left Law Enforcement after 19 years. Mind you, he only needed 20 to retire. It was so awful he couldn't stand to wait out the final year of work. He said "It's a tough life working with criminals all day ever day."

[@edwardrobichaud7789]

Brotha, you gotta follow your heart. If not a cop, what about a detective, detective or maybe open your own security business

[@Cesar-pq2ck]

But then they’ll get accused of placing evidence. They can’t win.

[@gordocojones]

You have to work your way up to detective. It's kind of a specialist type position.

[@MichaelP-ke1tm]

@@gordocojones Ya took my uncle 10 years to get to detective

[@killersaxsolo]

Following your heart is pretty naive advice. How about follow your interest into something that you can tolerate for 3+ decades?

[@Todjcam]

Give it up brother. You’re only 3 years into it you still have time to do something else. It pains me to say that but these days it’s just not worth it 😞

[@k.alvarado6237]

My uncle was a cop. Great man. But... I also just watched a video of some white kid getting mowed down by bullets in a hotel hallway while he cried and whimpered. Not saying get rid of police, but a change needs to happen.

[@lSomeRandomGuyl]

Daniel Shaver

[@IreneZGoodman]

@KZbin Veterinarian It's not one. Its hundreds every year.

[@ExplorationRandomDestination]

I think all cops should walk away so dangerous these days let the left see what happens with out them.

[@jendine1663]

It will be like the wild west. We will all carry guns and be are own judge, jury and executioner. Pretty scary thought.

[@digs1223]

I think they'd just hire leftist cops, they're not stable or balanced people so things would go very bad.

[@ExplorationRandomDestination]

9INE PLANETS lol californias not so nutty outside the liberal cities

[@ExplorationRandomDestination]

Digs 1 it will go horrible one way or another nobody will ever take a liberal seriously again.

[@antoinebusby7183]

I left law enforcement in 2014. It was the BEST decision that I ever made!

[@rudysalas9138]

What field or profession are you working in now if you dont mind me asking?

[@kevmoful]

I left law enforcement in 2015 . Also best decision I ever made. Income increased 100% and just happier

[@mondayjuice5451]

@@kevmoful what do you do now?

[@kevmoful]

@@mondayjuice5451 I am a radiation safety officer for an x ray manufacturer

[@mondayjuice5451]

@@kevmoful a security guard?

[@mariemika8929]

The rich can protect themselves, rich rappers telling people to join this movement living in protected gated communities... You tear down the good people because of a few rotten ones all in the name of our "skin color".... We were SOLD into Slavery.... Sold by our own. Why not open our eyes to the manipulation. I pray for this officer and many other good officers fighting to protect those who are trying to hurt them.

[@angelabridges1849]

I think training needs to be done for officers and some shouldn’t ever become cops. If you were bullied in school, you shouldn’t become a cop. Something has to change. The rotten ones need to be removed!

[@diablo2punk]

The left-wing has brainwashed people for many generations. People can’t think for themselves or do some research on an issue. They just read headlines and nothing more. They aren’t open to the truth, ignore it or just turn a blind eye. We need more and more people speaking the truth to the point where even the brainwashed people start thinking.. and even doubting.

[@monikaleszko5343]

Demoncrats are ruining the country

[@Nunyabusiness40]

If you’re a good cop you have nothing to worry about..

[@retiredmanager510]

Everyone can have a bad moment. Training and accountability needs to start from the mayors office down. Just like any job, If a person isn’t given the proper training and direction they learn through trial and error. Law enforcement is no different. When my friend was in his 20’s he was a training officer. He had a party and a couple graduates were at it. I was there and I’m not that big. The guy tried to demonstrate pain compliance techniques by using me. I’d never told him he could do it. So when he did something I countered and told him to step off. That infuriated him and he tried something else. I countered again only with a strike to a nerve group. Then he started saying he was a cop and I was assaulting him. My friend came up and said, look rookie. This is a civilian. I saw you grab him, you cannot do that here or on the street. I’ve known him since were were 5. Don’t mess with civilians! My friend told me he was going to have a talk with him. It made me wonder how many other people are taught aggressive techniques and want to try them out. That guy had no idea, I trained 5 hours a day 6 days a week in combat arts. I know officers need to control a situation, but I’ve also seen officers grab a nerve group, that causes a suspect to pull away and they then claim he or she was resisting. I also had a friend arrested by a plain clothes cop at a street festival. We were later told they don’t arrest the person that commits the crime they arrest the whole group. My friend was walking through the group to his hotel. Someone did something and an officer grabbed him by the shoulder and said our coming with me. My friend never saw a badge so he responded “who the F are you?” The plain clothes said so you’re resisting arrest and through him face first into the curb. My friend was charged with assaulting an officer but the charge was dropped when he paid his $2k fine.

[@ralphholiman7401]

Gabe , or just don’t arrest anyone. That’s where all the problems start.

[@hestiaa9354]

Retired Manager The problem is that if a cop has a “bad moment”, a civilian could end up dead.

[@cole1219]

Exactly. This guy sounds like he doesn’t want to be held accountable. BYE! And for everyone talking about a “bad moment” shut up. Everyone needs to be held to a high standard of professionalism. Cops are not above anyone!

[@underthelibertytree712]

In case you have been living under a rock, civil cases are decided by a preponderance of the evidence not like criminal cases. Criminal cases are decided by proof beyond a reasonable doubt. Preponderance is basically 51%. Being sued civilly is a very risky business. Your chances of losing are good. Who has the better lawyer is what it can often come down to. That is why cops will be quitting like never before. The financial risk and physical risks have now become too high once qualified immunity is taken away.

[@294inLouisiana]

As a cop on patrol going on 13 years I can’t in good conscious recommend law enforcement for anyone.

[@sseraj2898]

I’m confused with the questions in healthcare nurses and doctor can be found personally liable for negligence or graves mistakes but we don’t leave our career for that reason. If everyone in this country starts to thinking like this then pretty soon, there will be no law enforcement, no healthcare worker, no law and order. I think the focus should be on how to make this country safe.

[@retiredmanager510]

In California the most a doctor can be sued for is $200k. So if you go in for surgery and your surgeon amputated the wrong limb in error. Most you get is $200k and he or she gets a slap on the wrist.

[@Tony_Wes]

Same with counselors.We are held liable if you make a big mistake(which we should). If you follow the rules and don't kill people for running the stoplight it should not be a problem.

[@retiredmanager510]

Julian Niemiec it really is trial and error, I haven’t had problems with many officers in my life. But as someone trained in martial arts, specifically nerve groups and pressure points. I’ve seen officers grab people by pressure points. That causes a reaction where someone pulls away. When the person reacts they claim he or she is resisting. I respect the police because many of my friends are officers. But like any job there are some jerks that need to be retrained, constantly supervised or find different work.

[@paulcosta941]

If you pay police officers enough to make it worthwhile and to pay for their own malpractice insurance, there should not be a problem.

[@KniFz]

@Condizzle755 that's not what the law says. Your not very smart if u think running and gunning every citizen in sight who even looks suspicious is going to solve the unrest in our country. Cops need to be held accountable for their mistakes just like anyone else in this country. Criminal or not we have a justice system for a reason.

[@brendakrause5639]

With dog experience he may be able to do Homeland security for airport.

[@polinakrutonog4608]

It's a "dog job" and no career...

[@gloopgloopglorp]

Trade one useless and invasive job for another. Good plan

[@domwings4329]

Super low pay unless he has a 4 year

[@OrganicHispanic209]

He could probably get into the private sector, some companies pay way more than homeland.

[@acarouselofantics]

I see some folks in the comment section who are basically saying that the good cops should have nothing to worry about. That is just not so. As we are seeing on the television, all it can take is one time for a supposed good cop to be turned into a bad cop and lose everything, including his reputation. If I was in law enforcement right now (and was not close to retirement), I would really consider if I can make a move into another job/career.

[@trailrunnah8886]

Also, if the good cops are not calling out the bad cops, maybe they're not so good after all. After those two cops and buffalo were arraigned for pushing down that old man, there were dozens of other cops waiting to cheer them on. To me that's just one big group of bad cops.

[@stayathomemarine]

Yep not only his or her's reputation but also the safety of their family is put at risk.. their home.. etc.

[@gettemday]

A good cop could lose everything just like every citizen could lose everything if they chose to harm or kill someone.

[@CynthiaOvv]

@@gettemday but if they are a good citizen they shouldn't find themselves in these situations, a good cop has no choice but to be put into these hostile situations.

[@HazmatFatCat]

@@CynthiaOvv Does the name Breonna Taylor ring a bell?

[@patrick-un2lk]

I quit practicing medicine at 50 years of age for the same reason. Doctors make lot more money but I have seen trial lawyers get around the malpractice insurance and go after my colleagues personal assets. I concluded that it is not worth the risk and got out before I was in the wrong place at the wrong time. I make a lot less now but I live well and my families financial security is safe.

[@label1877]

You need to look into asset protection. All risks are manageable. For example if you move to Florida or Texas you can put all your money into your home... it’s untouchable then.

[@Cookieboy70]

It's scary to think about how some police did things before the rise of body cams and mobile phone cameras.

[@steelcastle5616]

Agree...especially seeing what they do on camera.

[@gettemday]

Scary lol...how many are dead, maimed, and innocent people doing prison time..scary isn't the word when it happens to you.

[@ThreePuttBogeys88]

I’m black and tired of bad cops and being profiled. I also feel bad for the position that good cops have been put in. I don’t know what we do from here.

[@jamesl.7725]

Not all cops are bad. Cops do need to be held responsible though. I am thankful for cops. They put their lives on the line every day to protect us.

[@DeadiskoFactory]

Kinda like the local mafia

[@ThePlasticPlanet]

@Voltron Defender of the Universe police unions cover up their violations and put them back on the force. It's just like telling a dog it's okay to bite his master.

[@ethanking4954]

@Voltron Defender of the Universe they aren't held accountable they cover for each other all the times. The system is broken ant they have refused to fix it for decades and now it's out of their hands. That had a chance and refused to take it.

[@bettysmith7045]

I would totally not be surprised if a majority of police officers quit in the next year, as they should, they don't deserve the treatment they are getting. Yes, there are clearly some bad eggs in the batch, but not all of them. Walk away now officers, get a better job where you are treated better.

[@av8tor261]

They don't pay police officers enough for the job they do. Today I'm surprised more do not quit.

[@nev.catalyst7478]

If I was a police officer today, I would have quit by now

[@webfreakz]

Or just be a decent cop.

[@webfreakz]

@junkmailboxstuff2 dude relax. I never said anything about how many good / bad cops there are. I only said about the guy calling Dave, and the other commenter "nev.catalyst", that he should consider being a decent cop so he can stop worrying about that liability part.

[@alejandrav5790]

This is exactly what happens to teachers. The system is so far gone that the good teachers are walking away from a career they love.

[@j316finewoodworking6]

As a former CO...I now run my own business and doing well...I still respect law enforcement but my money is so much better and the peace is there to.

[@robindouglas5721]

This is my dream in 5 yrs

[@j316finewoodworking6]

@@robindouglas5721 I am in process of moving from one business into a different business...from pest control to Woodworking. My pest control does very well but hope to sell it one day or pass it down...my Woodworking is my lifes dream...it's doing well now to but I need a new shop...bigger and better...started off very small...was able to upgrade all my tools...not best yet...but never took any money out of peat control to do this...and both businesses opened very cheap. Heck I gave up a business that was making 30k a yr because I just didn't have time.

[@outdooradventureswithjason6275]

Did over 20 years, retired with pension and benefits and debt free. I have not looked back, and love living life. .

[@ralphholiman7401]

I'm out with a federal 6c pension, but I sure wouldn't do it again if I was young again.

[@robindouglas5721]

Steve Miller sounds excellent, congratulations on your success!!

[@nathanfairrow3774]

This whole thing is going to make us lose good men and women who serve and protect us.

[@jobfedron]

Are you saying good men and women will leave the police force in support of the bad police employees?

[@robellyosief8820]

Are you also saying that bad cops weren’t committing crimes because of the good cops? If that’s the case why tf is everting going on

[@robellyosief8820]

Jobin johnson I think you misunderstood me lol. Maybe I’m high from being peppered sprayed at the protest... my point was against the original posters statement saying that this is going to chase good cops away. I’m saying that good cops weren’t doing their job by stopping bad cops. So really we aren’t losing good cops but bad/apathetic cops, and cops that let their colleagues do bad is an accomplice and is just as guilty. If they were a good cop they’d stay and flush out the bad cops

[@jobfedron]

​@@robellyosief8820 OOPS! deleted.

[@robellyosief8820]

Jobin johnson no problem.

[@devo6867]

Liscenced nurses can be held liable for a multitude of reasons. Welcome to our world 🌎

[@ralphholiman7401]

How many you know who have been criminally charged for making a mistake where a patient died?

[@mrs.carter4775]

ralph holiman actually A LOT, annnnnd it’s published in each states board of nursing for the world to see so welcome to the real world, cops have been in this good old boys club that is soon to be abolished

[@KrazyVideoChick]

Yea.... I wasn't going to say it. But I think the caller was gaslighting. He knew exactly what type of response he was going to get. As soon as I saw the title, I already knew what the comment section was going to look like.

[@ralphholiman7401]

@@mrs.carter4775 define "A LOT". Is it one, two, ten, fifty, a hundred? How many nurses in your state in 2019, for instance, got criminally charged (not just sued civilly) for a mistake that injured or killed a patient? Because, all I am seeing is that Vanderbuilt nurse being charged and everyone talking about how rare it is for that to happen.

[@KrazyVideoChick]

@@ralphholiman7401 I think what's so hard with nurses is how easy they can get away with it. My mom is a nurse and this may seem 'baby-ish', but I WILL NOT go to the ER or Urgent Care without my mom. AT ALL. Maybe I have seen too many crime shows. But I feel better when mom is therr becuase she knows what they are injecting me with and why. And she will ask a million questions if she think its odd.

[@mph5896]

$17 an hour after 3 years experience to be a cop. Nope.

[@VirginVirginian]

Why do people become cops? Horrible pay and if you want to "help your community" become an emt or firefighter

[@MrTmenzo]

@@VirginVirginian emt pay is a joke in California but firefighters and cops have good salaries.

[@cornelio7694]

True average salary in so cal is competitive but than again to live here is pathetic expensive.

[@harrisonwintergreen1147]

The way this callers voice brightened when talking about turning a wrench show the direction he needs to go. Good mechanics can make crazy good money 💰

[@NoName-tx5gn]

I’ve had 2 family members resign during all of this.

[@grod805]

Good. They probably were the bad cops that are trigger happy and want the tax payers to pay for all their misbehavior. If you can't be responsible, you shouldn't have that job.

[@NoName-tx5gn]

grod805 no they resigned because the union was no longer going to provide civil protection for them and they have families they need to provide for. They will find employment that pays better elsewhere. One of their police departments stopped responding to calls for fears of being ambushed.

[@jobfedron]

Good for your city.The people who quit their jobs are the ones who doesnt know how to do their job.

[@ianoliver6828]

Good for them. I wish them luck in the future

[@grod805]

@@NoName-tx5gn should have dealt with the bad cops earlier so we wouldn't be in this situation. They'd rather protect bad cops with all their clout instead of being responsible and reasonable

[@bravehats]

If you do your job well, you will carry on and have nothing to fear, because you know you are excellent at your job. When people have something to hide, or believe they will soon be exposed, they run/quit.

[@bravehats]

@@LJ542 this comment is from someone who has never been profiled or discriminated against.

[@crazyoldbroad4871]

All law enforcement officers in the Democrat run cities need to resign NOW. It's becoming a no win situation. Get out before your careers and lives are destroyed by just trying to do your job.

[@cato451]

if you are a good cop please stay. we need good cops.

[@remainloyaltoyour0wnsoil580]

Naww they all can go

[@kreed82]

Clearly they arent good cops, a good cop wouldnt be nervous about these new laws because they would have been doing their job the right way

[@ansh7335]

@@kreed82 It's not about being a good cop when snowflakes can sue you for 1 years salary for touching them.

[@MichaelP-ke1tm]

Personal liability is perfect for cops

[@LiftingGunsBibleTradition]

*Personal responsibility is better!* Like not resisting arrest, running away, or point a taser at a cop!

[@mikeyserrano9748]

@@LiftingGunsBibleTradition So a bit of resisting warrants a death?

[@ashleym6765]

Why would you leave...if your not doing nothing wrong or apart of the problem.... thats like my job looking to audit more of my reports..why would I want to leave if I'm not doing anything wrong??

[@Nolannn3434]

He could do nothing "wrong" but still be called "racist" etc. You know there are plenty of people out there who work the system and I wouldn't trust anyone in the current environment.

[@brandoncrimmins6296]

Ashley McLeod Because as much as I hate to side with a cop... It just makes it easier for people to win a frivolous lawsuit...

[@jendine1663]

I don't think the cops that dealt with Brooks in Atlanta were wrong but they are jobless and on there way to prison.

[@Ghost-jy9hk]

Probably because there’s so much scrutiny and hatred towards cops it makes sense to leave the profession. You hear about the ambush the other day where two cops got shot? The “peaceful protest” where 27 cops were injured? The 3 cops that were poisoned? No sane person would be a cop right now. Especially someone with a family

[@joshbenalcazar12367]

Ashley McLeod you don’t have to do something thats terribly wrong the bill screws you over. Unfortunately a lot of good people are gonna wanna leave law enforcement. Yikes man

[@slomo1562]

Yes... All the good officers are going to leave. Who will be left? The wild west was never so wild as what we are about to see.

[@SomnambulistCraze]

if they're so good why would they leave? statements like this never made sense to me.

[@sl6574]

Agreed. Anythhing a cop does is analyzed and twisted into what ppl wanna think. Especially tday

[@CVsnaredevil]

Yerundi The “good ones” would leave because they are the ones that are smart enough to get better jobs in other fields where they won’t get hate. It’s not going to be safe for people to be cops anymore so the talented ones will find other jobs. The ones who aren’t talented or smart or don’t have degrees will not have the option to leave. Especially with the coming economic collapse that’s coming, good jobs will be harder to come by. This is why we get so many morons in government. Decent, smart and talented people don’t go into government. They go to the private sector where they will be paid better and not have to put up with inefficiency and bureaucracy.

[@tamaralaird3389]

the good officers have nothing to worry about, and where are all these good officers you speak of. i haven't seen one.

[@jordanneedscoffee]

Yerundi because they’re being attacked for doing their jobs. An officer just had his own taser shot at him and is being prosecuted for shooting the guy that shot at him. Forget the lack of security and backup in grey area situations, they’re literally being castigated as evil people for doing nothing but standing in most cities now

[@durnhand9524]

To all the commentors saying, "If he doesn't do anything wrong, he's fine" You obviously don't understand civil law. You do not determine right and wrong in a civil suit, you determine damages owed. If an officer in Colorado tries to apprehend a suspect that is fleeing in a car, any damages that incur from the suspects vehicle to another vehicle could be brought against the officer because they were the cause of the chase. The fact that you were an armchair lawyer and couldn't look up civil law gives me pause that you would understand anything related to the judicial system. By the way, if you didn't like the police unions and how they rally behind the bad police, wait until a few lawsuits go through and the good cops start seeing the union as the only way to protect themselves.

[@NS-pf2zc]

YES.

[@wittenberg5]

Maybe you should have actually read the bill. It specifically says the officer must have been determined to quote "Not have acted in good faith or with a reasonable belief that his actions were legal" in order to be personally liable for damages. The fact that you couldn't be bothered to actually look up the bill gives me pause that would understand anything related to the judicial system.

[@durnhand9524]

@@wittenberg5 A good lawyer will easily make the officer look bad during the proceeding. The current climate does not lead to fair proceeding with the public, and the judge will not be swayed by the officers protest that he thought it was legal. Also, the definition of what is legal is changing rapidly between DA's. Good try though, maybe if you could find precedent to prove that whenever an officer chases a criminal, it is "legal". However, in many states there are quite a few policy rules that could easily be broken.

[@o4saken1]

Funny because crooked cops say "if you have nothing to hide you'll let me search your property" or "you'll take this test" or "you'll tell me what i want to know".....

[@menumlor9432]

@@o4saken1 That's how you commend respect.

[@dhill7173]

I’ve been wearing the uniform for 19 years. It’s just not economically feasible anymore. Too much liability and now without the protection of qualified immunity, I’m out. I have too much to loose.

[@aceous99]

why would you need qualified immunity like some rich Saudi prince to feel like you cannot succeed in life?

[@dhill7173]

@@aceous99 A prince inherits their wealth, I’ve worked for it, but don’t worry about it. I’m already out. Enjoy 2021 with a 200% increase in homicides. Have a wonderful life.

[@adrianmunoz4514]

@@dhill7173 why do you need qualified immunity? Cops make more than the average person???

[@1openborder]

Good riddance. Some stranger armed with a gun, tazer, and pepper spray wants qualified immunity? We don’t want you on our streets. How about some qualified accountability.

[@necpoletop]

It's a hard choice to make, but I would definitely get out of that trade. for the yearly salary he is getting and would seek a trade school and more than double your annual income.

[@bluetoast8584]

Wrong, cops make much more money and the benefits are a amazing. And a pension!!! You get paid for life!

[@MichaelP-ke1tm]

@@bluetoast8584 Pension at what age?? 60?? I'm 22 and my plan is to be financially free by 30 without pensions and social security income. I don't care about that stuff.

[@cameronsantiago3155]

@@MichaelP-ke1tm facts

[@nathanallen1703]

Patrick We all plan to be financially free by 30. Doesn’t always materialize for everyone.

[@audreykuczka4081]

This is exactly what my husband and I are going through right now.

[@johanfretzen1852]

I was honestly thinking about becoming a cop. I view it as a life fulfillment and a good example to set for my family. I am not biased I don't want to prosecute the hopeless I just want to serve and protect the citizens of the city.

[@Styxswimmer]

@@johanfretzen1852 noble professions are dead. Doctors are now seen as walking drug dispensaries. Military are seen as baby killers. Cops are viewed as racists. Meanwhile BLM (the dregs of society) are seen as infallible. Sickening

[@k.karmas1126]

Why is personal liability such a problem? Nurses are wise to carry liability insurance. So are doctors. I do my job correctly and I don't fear the liability. I carry liability insurance in case someone has a bad outcome, but carrying the liability wouldn't compel me to leave my profession. That's ridiculous. I don't fear being sued since I do my level best to follow the policies of my hospital and do what's in the best interest of my patients to keep them safe and healthy. If you're doing your job correctly and following department policies, why does the idea of liability make you fearful?

[@audreykuczka4081]

@@k.karmas1126 imagine doing your job correctly. However, the media and people who have never met you just absolutely hate you say otherwise. Imagine being a police officer- having to shoot someone because you fear for your life. The media and public crucify you. You have to move. Your family is threaten. The investigation is completed and the DOJ finds the shooting to be a lawful shooting. You still lose your job since where you work the citizens hate you, constantly protest your home, and your life completely changes even though you did your job correctly. This happens to cops all the time, like Darren Wilson for example. You can do your job correctly and lawfully according to a Department of Justice investigation (even if the media and public disagree) and you will still be under fire. This doesn’t happen to nurses.

[@NoName-ov8qi]

@@k.karmas1126 because you have to make life threatening decisions in a split second which will then be scrutinized after hours of reenactments from video and people who judge the circumstances thru their emotions not through their common sense. Rioters are calling for the head of the police offer who shot a man in Pennsylvania, after the knife guy chased the cop, trying to stab the cop, and the cop shot the knife guy. Btw knife guy had already done prison time for stabbing other victims but the loony anti police crowd doesn't believe police have a right to save their own life.

[@4everArtista]

I don't feel sorry for this guy. At least he has the option not to be a cop. African Americans don't have the option to change the color of their skin, which makes them always a target. Instead of blaming the political climate, how about blaming the bad cops, or the so called "good cops" who stood by and said nothing, and the justice system which allowed them all to go unpunished for decades??? Easier to blame the victims I guess.

[@retiredmanager510]

The justice system isn’t written by the officers. Most of the cities with the problems have been Democrat ruled for decades. The mayors office tends to use the police as a revenue generating division. The mayor and council write the laws or ordinances. You want reform start with the mayor taking accountability. The mayor requiring more training for officers. The mayor setting guidelines. Then the chief of police following those guidelines and implementing them. It trickles down. Start by voting out democrat mayors or at least balancing the council between liberal and conservative. Make them earn their paycheck.

[@moldyapple1237]

Would never be a cop in today's world.

[@Super-yw7ss]

I or my friends have never had any problems with law enforcement because we don't break laws or do stupid things.

[@408Machine]

Wouldn’t recommend it. Too much liability, scrutiny, and lack of support.

[@jasonpearce6322]

Just saw this video. 29 years as a uniformed police officer. I am retiring in a week and going into a security job in the private sector. Don’t regret anything in law enforcement but looking forward to a new career.

[@johansen8989]

They need to pay cops more, they deal with so much on a daily basis!

[@thepenthouse1507]

Pay them more ? They are holding cops financially liable !!! Run for the hills 😂

[@notfunny5013]

They will once the bad ones have either left or get caught up.

[@notfunny5013]

@Natural Healing Methods A bud cop I know makes 100k when OT and side hustle kicks in. He's in NC.

[@9770G]

@Dr. Plagueman good as he should they have a very important job.

[@KeyboardSourceError]

Don’t work for the money, work for the passion and serving others.

[@thorpower1015]

@Mister Hand lol

[@thecatnextdoor12]

Don’t follow the passion, follow the money and your passion will follow.

[@ansh7335]

So if someone points a gun at them, they would have to choose between loosing their life or 1 year pay for $37,000. Seems like policing is going to cost states and their taxpayers a lot more money, once all the good officers leave.

[@goodtalker]

I taught for many years. I got into it quite by accident, discovered I was good at it, but would not recommend it at all today. I see the same thing happening with law enforcement officers nearing retirement, and anyone with a shred of honesty knows this decline comes from the Left.

[@davidturk6170]

If you want to continue in law enforcement, look for states that appreciate law enforcement. That’s easy to find.

[@Ace-xt8lv]

Unfortunately those states pay the least

[@9770G]

@@Ace-xt8lv not true, here in NJ most people respect the police and they get paid well. same in FL.

[@Ace-xt8lv]

@@9770G I work in law enforcement here in nj . We are definitely not appreciated . Paid pretty well depending on the department and location but treated terribly .

[@9770G]

@@Ace-xt8lv where do u work. I feel as though most ppl I talk to appreciate cops? What town or county? Where I live most of the towns by me the average cop makes $130k a year.

[@Nothank1997]

Love that this was a thoughtful and empathetic call with the care/individual spirit it needed

[@patricks607]

Police officers in major cities should all resign to show how valuable our boys in blue actually are.

[@willcampbell2114]

How in anyway would someone be a cop for 18 bucks an hour, here in Alberta Canada min wage is 16 and most Police/RCMP start at 25 and get 100 grand in a few years of work. No wonder the US is having so many issues, its hard to attract good people at poverty wages.

[@lanemp8499]

I don’t get it. If you don’t do anything unethical you should be fine.

[@retiredmanager510]

Maybe you should go on a ride along and see how crazy humans are. All it takes is 1 bad call to change an officers life. They usually have 1 rule, come home alive.

[@foford2010]

@@retiredmanager510 George Floyd wanted to go home and see his daughter. Breona Taylor was an EMT helping Covid patients. Killed by cops in plain clothes breaking into the wrong house. Two more families destroyed among countless others. The bad cops need to be held accountable like Doctors doing malpractice.

[@durnhand9524]

@@foford2010 George Floyd wanted more Fentanyl, let's be honest here. There are plenty of good examples of police brutality without bringing up false narratives like GF just wanted to go home. Also, "countless others" implies that this happens on a large scale. Maybe you should look up the actual numbers.

[@speedfiend925]

How many times has Law Enforcement told us, "If you aren't doing anything wrong then you have nothing to worry about." Only in this case, the actions taken by Police if taken by the individual those actions would be viewed as behaving as an outlaw. WHOOPS!

[@ansh7335]

Police just have to make the decisions in a moment while someone is pointing a gun at them, unlike criminals who have their whole life to think about and still make the wrong choice.

[@jennifermariko]

Fair point

[@ethanking4954]

As soon as their held accountable it's "not worth the risk"

[@ralphholiman7401]

Think about this. The police officer in the Georgia case has been fired, and may be indicted, for doing exactly what he was trained to do regarding deadly force use and tasers. When you are being trained, and told what to do, by the same people who will later fire you and indict you for following their instructions, it’s definitely time to get out.

[@ccsmith2937]

Every one of these incidents were BLM protests the suspect that died was a criminal doing crime at the time of their death. The common denominator is don’t do crime & comply with the cops’ orders you will be fine. Fight it in court not on the street. When we lose more quality Officers society will only get worse this is bad for everyone . 👎👎

[@CarlosFlores-xf2sn]

I’ve had 3 friends turn away from being cops bc of the issues throughout the years that have happened

[@underthelibertytree712]

I'm an 18 year police officer and can't wait to get out. It's no longer worth it.

[@MichaelP-ke1tm]

It's not worth it because you're finally being held accountable for your job....you know like most people with jobs except yours involves life and death.

[@cole1219]

BYE!!!

[@anthonydrosos8679]

I laughed in the LAPD face when they tried to draft me out of the Army.

[@em34ev3r]

You did well. I have plenty of friends that were former LAPD cops...none of them stayed with that agency, a few lateral transferred to neighboring agencies. LAPD is the worst, and the worst part about them is that theyre a woke agency.

[@imprincesskay87]

This is sad. Who is going to protect us when we need it? Not all cops are bad. Of course there is a small percentage and there should be reform, but this isn’t the right way to go about it.

[@jobfedron]

Saying "Not all cops are bad" is like saying not all apples in the basket are bad so am still going to keep the bad apple there.

[@Justforme7]

what small percentage are you speaking of? do you know the statistics of the issue? when you have your pHD on the matter come and comment until then dont spread your white privilege attitude!

[@robellyosief8820]

How can you say this isn’t the right way when you were ignorant of the issue before. That’s what they said when the women sufferage started to protest to get their right to vote. They said it shouldn’t be protested now(during ww2) , there’s never a good time or play, it’s always next time! I’m sick of the apathy! Get up and make a change with the people suffering instead of trying to go back to normal because that’s what makes you comfortable

[@carolreynolds8982]

I know many wonderful, dedicated police who care about the broken hearted, homeless, abused...

[@nourel-deenayman3943]

i hope they quit

[@Yuuujiiii]

I don’t know any!

[@hippydude1606]

That's good. Tell them to help identify the criminals on the force and help to force them out to stop giving them a bad name. Any officer that stands by while a crime is committed is a criminal just the same as any civilian would be.

[@nourel-deenayman3943]

@@hippydude1606 all officers r criminals

[@jamesevenden6559]

Yeah, right...

[@LittleMopeHead]

The bad cops are taking what's good from the good ones.

[@JamesDean-nx2nq]

I am a white male in my early 20's. That fact has never prevented the law enforcement where I grew up from verbally and physically attacking me on more than one occasion ( Grew up in "Montgomery County, MD"). I just wanted people to understand where I come from when I say I do not trust law enforcement at all on any level. But even with those horrible experiences I have still met some very good law enforcement officers that genuinely care and use a common sense approach to their job. (Law Enforcement officers using common sense is a very rare thing in my area). But I absolutely hate the fact that the men and women that are trying to do their best are so scared of being jailed or sued that they quit. It just isn't productive, and it leaves us as citizens exposed to the unethical law enforcement officers because those are the ones willing to use threats and violence to ensure they are never caught or punished for their actions. It's a F'd up system but we need these people. It's that simple.

[@allie8442]

End the unions and privitize the police

[@jason76065]

For years I've been told, if you're a law-abiding citizen you have nothing to worry about when you interact with police, well now the shoe is on the other foot, if you're a good cop that does his job correctly and responsibly and ethically you should have nothing to worry about as far as being held responsible for your actions

[@pfe3883]

I have been a federal Leo for about 10 years. In Law enforcement we have our share of bad cops, but there are also still some good cops. There is no excuse for Leo's who purposefully don't follow the laws. However, those not in the profession do not have the right to Monday morning quarterback us for the life and death decisions we make in split seconds at o dark thirty while they sleep snug in their beds in their safe homes. All I want to do is to do my job upholding the laws and go home at the end of my shift every night.

[@albinosh4dow]

That’s not true. You can do everything right and shoot someone defending yourself and be put on trial and suspended to further a political agenda.

[@konye618]

Dave, it is right. Just like you have to pay insurance for all your property. Just like you have to pay insurance against liability, police officers need reform. Whatever they are doing now is not helping. They even ostracize the police officers that speak up against the bad ones. The good guys literally can't get a job at any other police station after they have spoken out against a colleague, does that make sense?? Police reform is necessary.

[@mikeyserrano9748]

@Condizzle755 Notice how you jumped STRAIGHT from police reform to black culture reform? That's not even the something... We are talking about something the GOVERNMENT has allowed for decades. Police brutality cases put the cop on PAID admin leave and then they get to continue their job like nothing happened

[@bug1386]

Ok racist

[@gmilla2825]

Bug 😂 you libs have overused and overapplied the “racist” word so much it has lost any meaning. At this point everyone and everything is racist and I don’t even care anymore.

[@allie8442]

End the unions. They need to be able to fire the bad cops. They will save money and pay good cops more. Look up John Stossel's video on this.

[@colin1818]

I agree that some reform is needed. But don't enable the marxist hate mongers.

[@MrJas1455]

26 years in with 24 months to go.... Can't wait to get out! I really feel bad for my brothers and sisters who have soooo much longer left in their careers! Society will sadly not realize what they are doing to all of us good cops until it is way too late... With only three years in I advise David to get out now!

[@em34ev3r]

Its not society, its the job itself. As a local cop, you're dealing with other people's problems all day every day at any time. Whether you work corrections, probation, or the streets. I work for a federal agency, and the life of a federal LEO is so much nicer than a local.

[@joncovington2859]

I’m not sure if he really understands what is really going on. If you are a good cop why are you leaving? When need the good cops.

[@bradensorensen966]

IS he a good cop?

[@durnhand9524]

Because being good or bad doesn't matter in a civil suit, only if damages occurred. The officer could be held liable for any damages that incur due to their presence, ie. If a suspect damages a car in a police chase after a home invasion.

[@suemorr1970jamaica]

Dont doctors and nurses carry malpractice insurance? So cops do the same thing! This us very whiney and if hes a good cop, then he wont have an issue!

[@ddo920]

Exactly

[@bryanpoulsen8969]

If the prospect of some personal liability for screwing up at your job and hurting innocent people drives you away, then so be it.

[@adamsmith3413]

Hope you live in a good neighborhood. Let’s ignore the inner cities as they devolve into chaos. Serves them right for being poor.

[@reaccionapuertorico]

If you are a LEO and your elected officials don’t support you...pack it up and go to another city/state that does.

[@armandol1826]

reaccionapr At least where I live, the mayor Christina Shea stated "I will continue to support our law enforcement in Irvine with the top dollars we expend to keep us safe. I won't be diminishing their budget. If that isn't in your interest, perhaps living in another community that hosts different values, and a less safe environment would best suit your lifestyle". She is the epitome of standing for leos

[@CynthiaOvv]

Being held accountable in a career that is unpredictable. Bless all law enforcement ❤️

[@ShadowKiller71]

Being held accountable when you're at fault ❤

[@foford2010]

Every bullet has a lawyer attached to it. LEO's should be accountable for careless actions. Just as citizens who do wrong are accountable. LEOs volunteer to do the job knowing what it entails. Now it will hurt their wallets.

[@ralphholiman7401]

@@ShadowKiller71 ,not as bad as being held accountable when you're innocent and not at fault, but they don't want the city to burn down.

[@Carterthielftw_]

Agreed, not sure where we would be without them

[@ShadowKiller71]

@@ralphholiman7401 being held accountable when your innocent? You mean like how some ppl in law enforcement treats its civilians, oh nooooooo!!!!! If only they had dealt with that problem before the possiblity of it affecting themselves.

[@cole1219]

Sounds like cops everywhere are either not use to or are afraid of being held accountable! Every job should require a certain level of professionalism. BYE!

[@ethanking4954]

As soon as people started talking about the cops being held accountable for their actions people started freak out.

[@bonnevillebagger9147]

You want to hold cops accountable for the actions of criminals. You think cops should be blamed for the criminal taking too many drugs, or pointing tazers at people. You want to protect the criminal class.

[@mikeyserrano9748]

@@bonnevillebagger9147 No, we want cops held accountable for unreasonable amounts of force used. Floyd's death is an example. Chauvin had his hands in his pockets as he had his knee on Floyd's neck. He was not trying to restrain him. Rather, he was trying to kill him

[@durnhand9524]

@@mikeyserrano9748 this call had nothing to do with excessive force, something everyone agrees with. The call is about civil lawsuits...are you ignorant or are you just trying to push an agenda?

[@mikeyserrano9748]

Durnhand Not ignorant, but if a cop uses excessive force, they should be able to face the consequences, such as a lawsuit. If he were a good cop and went about things the right way, he would have no issues

[@chrispetro]

It is truly a sad time for law enforcement. So many GREAT people are police officers, and they DESERVE the utmost respect for what they sacrifice every day. Don’t judge them all by the actions of some. Thank you blue 💙🖤

[@Erk0806]

Budgeted It’s been a sad time for black people for a long time you guys had a couple months of hard times what do you try to couple of centuries the black people have been going through

[@jacquelinelombard1475]

How sad that law enforcement personnel has to even ask this question.

[@iamnottheone3020]

If a cop breaks the law they should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law just like everyone else. They keep shooting black men in the back wow they are running away from them!

[@grod805]

We wouldn't have to if good cops didn't defend bad cops. They need to be held accountable. Cities shouldn't pay up whenever they kill someone just because.

[@nourel-deenayman3943]

ACAB

[@nmasolanmasola]

@@grod805 If you're defending a bad cop, you're not a good cop. A good cop should uphold the law, regardless of whether or not it's a coworker breaking the law.

[@endirrwiggins2494]

Best for you and family is to quit. If your family is scared like yourself, then retire/quit.

[@Raygun34]

Just get insurance what's wrong with cops being liable for their mistakes? Love Dave but he's off on this.

[@ethanking4954]

Yeah everyone else has liability insurance why are cops special lol

[@Raygun34]

@Bob Barker If a surgeon who has life literally in their hands has insurance a cop can.

[@hmrobert7016]

If you don’t want to be sued, don’t do anything wrong. Simple as that.

[@Je.rone_]

Some personal liability seems like it'd make sense

[@akdoss1337]

🙄

[@Je.rone_]

@@akdoss1337 😍

[@bonnevillebagger9147]

Especially from the criminals.

[@foford2010]

Doctors have malpractice insurance. Why not LEOs with guns? Everyone behaves when their money is affected.

[@bonnevillebagger9147]

foford I wish they would, so that the insurance companies would investigate the claims in defense of the officer. I don’t think you would like being told the truth. That the criminals are 99.9% responsible for the situation they find themselves in.

[@randygreenfield4312]

So if the fuel price goes up is now the time to stop being a truck driver It’s Fire season is now the time to stop being a fireman Get the bad or racist cops out of the police force and we’ll have a better topic then this BS one

[@ralphholiman7401]

randy greenfield , or just drive slow to calls, and don’t try to arrest anyone who doesn’t want to be arrested. Just get back in the car and leave. It’s the safe play.

[@ralphholiman7401]

@9INE PLANETS , how many man with a gun calls have you handled?

[@durnhand9524]

@@ralphholiman7401 haha I'm guessing he's responded to exactly...0! Idiots are trying to rule from their armchairs

[@Didi781c]

Now police will think twice before just shooting someone, choking them out, or doing some other inappropriate conduct. They will be really forced to think if their life is in real danger or if they just don’t like the persons attitude.

[@born2win259]

Absolutely not. We need to stand with our Officers that are protecting our towns. Yes, some make mistakes, some use excessive force, and some are plain crooked. But trust me, there are good officers that care about the communities. Why should we disrespect them and generalize them all as bad? People that were protesting in my town in Oregon weren't even from Oregon. Wake up, there's someone that's funding these groups of people to go and cause havoc and bring destruction to towns.

[@durnhand9524]

We had the same thing happen here! Who is paying for BLM to travel to the small towns of Oregon that do not have these issues?! On top of that, we are having a Corona "spike" now and Queen Brown is looking at locking us down again!

[@shola7987]

Oregon is not exempt from police brutality though. Even if one person was killed u justly by an officer a protest is warranted no matter whose paying for it.

[@stacywyatt4277]

Teachers can be found liable too. Get insurance.

[@seanredsky2394]

Teachers aren't typically dealing with homicidal subjects, combative subjects, violent felons or individuals suffering from mental illness, drug induced violent behavior, people illegally possessing firearms, or anyone involved with criminal activity in general. Police need to be indemnified and protected from lawsuits when acting under color of law and when their actions are justified pursuant to statutory authority. This doesn't mean police are granted the right to act with impunity. It means that when an officer is required to use force up to and including lethal force when necessary, they shouldn't have to be concerned about being arrested, prosecuted and thrown in jail, or sued, for doing their job. This whole trial by media and/or public opinion attitude needs to stop. Nobody knows what it's like to be in that situation unless or until you find yourself in one. Police face these situations all the time. It's a completely different scenario with very different circumstances than a teacher typically experiences and the liability cannot and should not be the same. We're going to see officers leaving law enforcement in droves if this type of legislation becomes more prevalent in the various states.

[@notfunny5013]

Therapists can be found liable also. Malpractice insurance is required.

[@1multiplier387]

- pilots take years and years to get on the captains seat. and they need to have regular mandatory health checks and insurance - truck drivers require very extensive technical and health requirements, certification, insurance, and can only drive for a certain amount of hours before having to take a break by law - doctors go through a tough medical school, residency, mentorship, thats about 15-20 years before seeing patients on their own, and need malpractice insurance - electricians need extensive training, insurance, and mentorship from a master electrician before doing work on their own. - even the president needs congress to pass a law, and if that law is on shaky grounds it gets put through the supreme court - heck even sushi chefs make rice for years and years, before even being allowed to make sushi for crying out loud how come cops is the only profession that requires only a basic academy that only teaches them to be scared, have no requirements on civil rights law, needs no insurance, no health requirements, are 100% backed by a union for them to do whatever they please unilaterally without any checks and balances? and if that cop breaks the law, the tax payer is left to hold the bag? who has problems with cops? i have no problem with them individually as people. ITS THE PROFESSION ITSELF that by definition corrupts the person and goes against american values such as checks and balances and personal accountability "power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely"

[@iamnottheone3020]

We

[@iamnottheone3020]

Well said 💯‼️✅