Is Nurse Breaking Dead by Daylight Once Again?

[@Nink262]

> Aura perks being broken on Nurse since forever > It ruins any potential or interesting aura reading perks overall > BHVR still refuses to give Nurse blindness during blink charges to prevent her from abusing aura reading perks.

[@dant3838]

ive never thought about that but that would be a fucking amazing change

[@DramaQueenTea]

in short term nurses use aura perks to counter survivors breaking line of sight, and or just to jumpscare them. bhvr wont give nurse blindness because that will cause enough backlash from the few nurse mains to cancel that ptb test

[@Nicolas-dr3yp]

​@@DramaQueenTeanerfing the nurse would be a "fck pro killer mains" and the new swf reign

[@iCampTooMuch]

From a game design standpoint; it makes perfect sense. They WANT a killer to be at the forefront, if every single killer is the exact same strength all the time, the game quickly becomes stale.

[@Frostfrau]

That's what I've been thinking as well! Especially because it wouldn't actually hurt good Nurse mains that understand the game and can read survivors chase habits. Relying on aura reading on Nurse is just lazy through and through. Like, I have 250 hours in the game, mostly play survivor and mostly rather watch content than physically playing and can win games on Nurse against survivors with tripple my hours. It's like,,, lol - yeah that actually describes it well, it's stupid

[@Trident_Gaming03]

Wraith finally having an even halfway-decent perk feels like I just won the lottery

[@Herbster0]

Shadowborn is also due to get changed this year . Maybe the only bad perk he will have is bloodhound after that.

[@Griniusneam]

@@Herbster0shadowborn was good before too

[@stoqnkolev3817]

What build you play on wraith

[@dumblenutz5561]

You gotta run bloodhound on Oni cuz muh blud

[@GarboEmbargo]

​@stoqnkolev3817 Sloppy Butcher, Jolt (surge), grim embrace, Spies from the shadows. Or Sloppy, Jolt, Franklin's, Weave Or, Brutal Strength, Bamboozle, Jolt, and Pain Res

[@mirage3089]

i love how this makes the whole stealth mid chase that more experienced players can use against nurse is now just a flat out dead strategy to do way to make this killer unfun

[@Lacter12]

this video feels like an ad for distortion

[@arnaudthouvenot929]

I’m sure your 2 tokens will do wonder against full aura nurse now that you need chase time to recharge them. Lethal and bbq and you’re out already

[@Lacter12]

@@arnaudthouvenot929 got full batteries from previous patches i got nothing to worry sbout

[@TerryQueue_]

@@arnaudthouvenot929 Not to mention that you still START the trial with 1 token. Distortion remains dead despite that extra token change to appease the outrage.

[@phillyjackson5931]

Yeah let’s give killers more aura reading while we nerf distortion 😂😂😂 what an L lol

[@protosist]

I've just had to go against a nurse. She brought a midwich offering, predator, lethal, nowhere to hide and nurse's calling. At 3 minutes she had us all slugged and left us to bleed out. There was nothing we could do, we literally had nowhere to hide and nowhere to run.

[@kingol4801]

That is the point. That is what an enemy should do. DbD is not a scary game because there are no stakes. You get 3+ chase opportunities, 2+ health states each, etc etc etc. Horror games that give people too many second chances are BAD. They are addictive and repayable, but very bad. A multiplayer horror game is a game where a monster is as smart and the player, whilst still being a raid boss……. That means that everybody on survivors team SHOULD be screwed. That is the genre. Survival should not be treated as a common occurrence, but OMG I finally did it situation. For as long as the power role does not pose enough risk of instant and total destruction to the opposing side, the game will never be a horror game. And playing gloried Scooby-doo themed tag is just unfun

[@protosist]

@@kingol4801 If the game had the intentions you ve just laid out nobody would play survivor, NOBODY! Who would want to play as a survivor if, as you said, the intended escapes were to happen, by design, once in a blue moon? Are you for real?

[@thirtytwo6479]

​@@kingol4801 I don't think the point it to have the killer be overpowered and have tons of overpowered perks. The reason killers hated og distortion is because they couldn't spam wall hacks to win. Its ridiculous, that that is the point. Killers already move faster than survivors, and then get even faster, and now with the new predator rework get rewarded for LOSING. Thats why I deleted the game when I saw distortion get nerfed in the patch notes. Not a fun game when you get wallhacked out of existence.

[@pokemaster1478]

@@kingol4801lol killer mains are so dumb. If everyone is slugged that means they probably all got only 1 chase chance and against a killer who has aura reading constantly with teleporting means there’s no counterplay… Killer mains just want to be handed everything huh?

[@DeliverUsSomeEvilPodcast]

Boohoo learn to loop better

[@RoyalCrest-LetsPlaysAndMore]

6:17 - I'd like to point out that Predator activated TWICE there, actually. It didn't "not activate" because chase was switched. If you look, it starts a 6-second reveal period just as Soma escapes chase and then immediately reactivates after Ada loses chase. It looks like a second Survivor escapes chase within the 6 second reveal period of the first Survivor, it resets the timer.

[@sleepy1693]

So its a 40 second cooldown on each survivor then? If I'm understanding that correctly?

[@HoodTrampoline]

@@sleepy1693 not on each survivor, the cooldown only resets if you lose chase within those 6 seconds of having lost another chase

[@IcarusFaIlen]

​@@HoodTrampoline8 seconds because lethal pursuer

[@MaTtRoSiTy]

Like Hens, I used to main Nurse but you reach a point where it becomes so very clear she is absolutely broken and even if nobody DC's you win every match in regular queues

[@RamonaPD]

B-but her blink addons got a side-grade like 2 years ago!! literally unplayable killer 🤡

[@JohnnyVanilla1]

Easy fix to this ongoing problem: nurse can’t see auras while charging a blink. Done.

[@R3V3LAT10NStv]

It’s weird how they haven’t actually thought of that given spirit has it and draculas bat form as well. Would definitely cause a shift in her playstyle for killers but offers new counterplay

[@joh1997dude]

This is just going to make 4 slowdown nurse more common if you make all other perks a waste of a perk slot.

[@FinestFantasyVI]

​@@joh1997dudeId rather have a 4 slowdown Nurse than have her bottleneck decent aura perks weaker killers could use

[@localviking666]

Easy fix to this ongoing problem: delete the killer that breaks the game!!

[@R3V3LAT10NStv]

@@joh1997dude bro people are already running 4 slowdown perks. Still haven’t seen a need to run full slowdown myself but still there’s no need to use an argument of full slowdown when it’s already prevalent across all killers

[@alexdlocoa]

And Distortion takes 30 seconds of chase to get a stack? Feels bad, man. Welcome to the Aura Meta, everyone!

[@AmyLovesYou]

I fucking hate wallhack meta. This era of DBD is bigger dog shit than old Eruption, CoB & Overcharge ever was.

[@randomguy6695]

Yeah, not a fan of this aura meta bhvr seems to be taking the game. At this rate they might as well revert Made For This back to its original state to balance it out😂 Although, I think they should change it to where the haste doesn’t stack. Which is what should’ve happened the first time around, but I digress.

[@requ1emYBA]

BHVR: Blindness while blinking…? Why do that when we can just revert predator, easy!

[@lucule2978]

Good ideea. Breaking a whole killer so people can use a perk for 2 weeks then forger about it Forever again?

[@AmyLovesYou]

I'd much rather the perks be better thought of than a killer get gutted like a fish. That shit pisses me off when they do that.

[@WittingStudios]

Better nerf Pig just in case.

[@gamemaster112ful7]

​@@lucule2978How is that breaking the killer? Nurse is disgustingly broken this would be a way to balance her out

[@Ashy_Slashy3]

Nurse is the reason why other killers can't get Gucci sh*t

[@Drgn8DDragonsDungeon]

so nice of them to provide a perk that immediately deletes the tokens you get from nerfed distortion

[@VaporeonMega]

Not only is predator broken on nurse, it's also bugged as you saw at 6:16-6:24. If you lose chase a second time in the six second window before the perk goes on cooldown, you get aura AGAIN.

[@dodang_9147]

i think this isn't as broken as you think because nurse has to lose chase for 18 meters. essentially if you play vs this, you just hold-w. that's it. you literally outrun the blink distance. the one thing to note is that nurse has 2 add-on that fix this issue. the first is add-on where when you blink, you double blink and other is 3 blink nurse... but 3 blink nurse doesn't need this perk anyway. 11:08-11:15 is how you counter the perk. literal run forward.

[@sleebees]

​@@dodang_9147You can still lose chase without going 18 meters? Chase is based on LoS primarily, not by distance.

[@HerEvilTwin]

@@dodang_9147yeah it’s not that simple. This is straight up broken on Nurse and there’s really no excuse. Also, Nurse doesn’t have to be 18m away to lose chase, that’s just one way of losing chase.

[@dodang_9147]

@@HerEvilTwin you can lose chase at short distance by standing-still but my point is that the perk allows survivor to outrun her blinks. The cases where this perk is "broken" is in corner of the map where you can lose chase on purpose and use blinks for free hit however nurse IN GENERAL is broken in corner of the map because good nurses consistent hit blinks when your trapped and unable hold-w. that's like #1 problem with nurse. it is that she passively get downs with 0 counter-play and only real counter-play is hold-w away from gens and gen-rush. Her counter-play isn't really counter-play, it is delayed inevitably that is fast. i am not saying that other killer don't free hits or don't have moments of no counter-play but frequency and speed that nurse does this is the issue. it is not a perk problem, it is nurse problem which it has been for 7+ years even past all her nerfs.

[@VaporeonMega]

@@dodang_9147 If you use this bug correctly, getting aura on a survivor for both health states is extremely busted, especially on maps with lower visibility. If you manage to get 2 survivors in chase, you charge your blink while looking at and "chasing" the survivor you DON'T want. This will make chase with the other survivor drop, giving you aura. You blink on them and get the hit. You lose chase with the other survivor, resetting the predator timer and giving you 6 seconds to lose chase with this survivor to get another predator hit.

[@Khastrx]

Aura reading in general is just becoming ridiculous, every patch a perk is buffed or reworked to have more aura potential. Not to mention Distortion got nerfed, so if you're a less experienced survivor, then you probably aren't going to have a good time.

[@EvanSnowWolf]

@@Khastrx What do you want? First it was incapacitated perks, you wanted those trashed. Then it was gen regression perks, you wanted those trashed. Now aura reading is bad? What happened to "the chase is the only fun part of the game"?

[@Khastrx]

@@EvanSnowWolf You're saying "you" a lot with the insinuation I asked for all of these things and attempting to place words in my mouth. I made an observation, auras are regularly getting buffed or new ones are added, look at the patch notes over the years and you will see that to be true. There's a reason modes like Chaos Shuffle were so popular; because players could have more fun and not have to deal with the same metas every single match. Although the emotion suggests you're butt hurt about something, so possibly it's killer entitlement? Either way, I'll be muting you now though; so if you respond I won't really care nor will I come back to check ❤️

[@EvanSnowWolf]

@@Khastrx I'm a Survivor Main.

[@AmyLovesYou]

@@EvanSnowWolf Then you should be saying 'we', not 'you'...

[@EvanSnowWolf]

@@AmyLovesYou Nope. I said what I said. I've never advocated for any killer nerfs except for Blight. I actually think the game is Survivor sided. I'm a Solo Queue Warrior, and in my experience the reason we lose games is not because killers have overpowered perks or powers it is because the average Solo Queue random is a potato. There is NO EXCUSE for me to do an entire gen by myself and see that your HUD never once touched a gen, chase, totem, or chest in that entire time. So no, I'm a Survivor Main, but not an entitled one. I stand by the "you", it is not "we".

[@Trident_Gaming03]

2 videos in 4 hours, the grind is real

[@2fauth343]

I think some EU dbd streamers are making a DBD house and that’s why they been on a grind.

[@lemon_jester769]

Ah yes, a direct counter to the survivor "Hold W" play: the killer "Hold S" play

[@HerEvilTwin]

The fact that SM, Pig, Sadako etc. got nerfed but Nurse is still in the game is absolutely ridiculous. So often they have to balance perks or mechanics solely because of her.

[@XhristianGaminX]

Exactly they so worried about skull merchant but still have blight and nurse who counter half the game mechanics

[@Filemonne]

⁠@@XhristianGaminXwhat game mechanics does blight counter? he’s in a pretty decent spot atm

[@kittymyths1208]

​@@XhristianGaminX blight is fine

[@Fluffyxox-n2e]

@@XhristianGaminX Blight is fine. fun to play, fun to play against, significant available counterplay. speed adons deserve a nerf but whatever, maybe some day.

[@justhit6673]

​@@Fluffyxox-n2ethey did get nerfed pretty hard, you want more?

[@FrefyYT]

Can we just stop worrying about aura perks because nurse? Honestly they should just make it so nurse has blindness while charging blinks and then this issue could die Edit: I didn't even read the other comments apparently this is something people have already thought of lol

[@magical571]

yes i'm tired of people crying about aura perks, when really other killers are sacrificing gen slowdown, anti heal, speed, stealth, etc etc etc if they go full on aura read, but nurse has no basic attack interaction with her lunges, so any of those aren't even an option so picking auras is an easy choice, her movility is also a band-aid fix what she would otherwise be sacrificing, and auras are particularly nasty and effective on her.

[@tmoney1487]

She doesnt have to constantly hold the blink, she can just wait to see where you go after chase and then immediately blink to the last place she saw you. You'd have to give her permenant blindness. Distortion is the only good counter to aura reading nurse, and thats getting nerfed in the worst way possible for a nurse with that build.

[@mokkecandy_5406]

​@@tmoney1487 that's exactly what I was thinking oof

[@apocalypseap]

Could also increase the cooldown of her blinks a bit while they're at it.

[@monkey-9757]

Reading this comment after the others made me think think was tongue in cheek and I refuse to believe otherwise

[@ilyakotikov3275]

I think nurse has been broken since her release in 2016. Even after several nerfs she never left the place of the strongest killer in game

[@brysonemery9232]

Bros just stating the obvious 😭🙏

[@tmoney1487]

She was created to counter the infinite loops survivors used to have, now there are no more infinite loops so she is just a problem. An issue from back when behaviors design philosophy was different.

[@allu983]

Me when I so desperately need likes so I state the obvious:

[@Ghost5665]

​@tmoney1487 It's funny too because people would excuse her as a "she takes alot of skill" when there are killers that take significantly more skill (Blight, Billy being two main examples) she's a high skill floor low skill ceiling killer.

[@themarketgardener]

@@tmoney1487She still serves a purpose, winning against top percent swfs. There aren’t many killers who stand a chance.

[@Im_monkey530]

Couldn’t you just give her blindness while holding power like spirit

[@Hatecrewdethrol]

knowing behavior them doing something like that would break medkits on half the maps and somehow nerf pig

[@notHens]

Would be wonderful yes to some degree, you would need to be able to see survivors tho. Blindness while charging blink and until fatigue would be the easiest fix

[@elsa8324]

In my opinion I think that Behaviour have been cluttering up the maps with useless geometry to add more counterplay to Nurse over the years. If I was to alter her I would simply make the survivors and the nurse see an indicator where her blink is about to go. Like the add on that shows blink location but survivors can see it too base kit. That’s just me though.

[@Spanishy]

Wait hold up put this commentator on the balancing team

[@STARLEYMAYHEM]

Not needed

[@colossaldonut5190]

New DBD update. Look inside: Nurse buffs

[@iangenuine]

The fact they buffed aura reading for killers and nerfed distortion is crazy

[@princesspid9471]

I hate how the Genetic Limits and Predator buffs practically gut Overcome which is already a really niche exhaustion Perk.

[@AmyLovesYou]

"OMG, the survivors are negating wall hacks with Distortion! Let's nerf it into the ground, give the killers more aura reading, and destroy most if not every exhaustion perk at the same time, because fuck survivors." -BHVR

[@emberhydra]

What did they do to genetic limits?

[@Kazrain973]

Genetic limit doesn't work on Overcome.

[@DeoNone69]

8:40 you better start getting into a habit of moriying the last survivor bro I was waiting for it and then you just pick up😭

[@Idkwhatishoulddoforthishandle]

That is the most accurate skeleton hand to real life i have ever seen.

[@tonyth9240]

Ok but this is really really good nurse gameplay too, these blinks are on point. The aura read is just a force multiplier for an already strong killer and player. Incredible.

[@robert13th]

I wouldn't mind nurse being nerfed more if swf/gen efficiently was really nerfed as well some troublesome map needing to be looked at.

[@tmoney1487]

Gens are the one objective survivors have and killers have many perks that inherently nerf gen regression. Please dont nerf them again. It already feels hard enough to escape when you have randoms on your team that dont do gens, the entire game doesnt need to be balanced with the idea that every team is a swf. And most maps are killer sided. Survivors have what, badham preschool and meat packing plant? Maybe RPD depending on the killer?

[@robert13th]

@@tmoney1487 i disagree on few things. One, majority of the maps are survivor sided, and they have more options to go there favorite maps. You're forgetting eries of crow, gas heaven, groaning storehouse, the disturbed ward/father's chapel, garden of joy, Ormond, blackwater maps, tormented creek, azarov's resting place and wretched shop along with the other 3 you listed. The survivors got plenty of options to go for. Two, alot of gen slowdowns and regression have been nerfed. And you cannot regress gens anymore after 8 hits. Three, survivors still have more perks to work with then most killers do and tiles on most maps can be looped for a long time by survivors.

[@kingol4801]

@@tmoney1487 DbD should not be a team game period. It should be a horror simulator of “how can I sandbag other survivors to escape myself”.

[@mylife1221]

​@@kingol4801 bub, idk why you keep commenting at this point other than to bait people because NO-ONE agrees with a single thing you're saying

[@somedude1561]

Someone else suggested blindness during blink charging, which seems like a smart change. I've been thinking that Nurse's biggest problem is that her lunge makes most situations uncounterable for survivors, so if they made it so she only has a lunge after the first blink, she would be more balanced. Or just give her Myers tier 1 lunge after second blink.

[@Laculan]

What an absolute stupid take 😂

[@semplar2007]

actually great idea

[@marblelemonade76]

@@Laculan someone is a nurse main

[@Laculan]

@@marblelemonade76 Stating the obvious

[@Crispy_DAWG]

⁠@@LaculanI agree and i hate nurse. Edit: Nerf it. Nerf it in the ground!

[@retrohero5475]

While I do think that it's the right choice for the time being Mintskull brought something up in one of his most recent videos about the whole give nurse blindness thing. If aura Perks become suboptimal on her, she would lose access to roughly half of her choices since there's already tons of Perks she gets basically no value from (anything that requires a basic attack, vaulting, breaking pallets, etc) meaning that all that's really left is gen regression and anti-heal. I feel like we're gonna enter a bit of a dark age among nurses for a while after this nerf if it occurs, hopefully BHVR comes up with a good solution.

[@nicane-9966]

Again nurse being the problem not the perk, i wished they just deleted this crap so the game can get the balance it deserves.

[@Sprachitektur]

Aura perks generally bad imo

[@nicane-9966]

@@Sprachitektur all started with BBQ wich was fine, because it appeared on a time where camping was a huge thing and generally speaking people are fine with it but then many CACAS were created espe3cialy nowhere to hide and with minimal effort killers get WAY too much... the problem is not aura reading but and overdosis of aura reading

[@AmyLovesYou]

@@nicane-9966 The devs are extremely out of ideas on what perks to create, and keep copy and pasting the same shit code for years and bending a few attributes about it if any attributes at all.

[@Krondies]

Well it's just going to be new absolute rules for survs like wraith's(pallets,windows/uncloak) or myers(tombstone/lockers) ones. If you are in a chase with nurse, then You Are, until proven otherwise

[@NotRealAkira]

I always thought rewarding killers for losing chase was a terrible game design decision, so I feel a bit vindicated to see that it was a shit idea.

[@leidi90yt]

I think they wanted to add more (jump-)scare possibilities into it, especially for Michael so they gave him Play with your food. That survivors don't know if they really escaped him.

[@Katana314]

I don’t mind the idea of giving them a consolation prize for trying, then deciding to swap targets, but downing them should always be better than other rewards

[@salinaember9527]

survivors have rewards for losing chase BASEKIT. being downed under a pallet. not only can they utilize it when healthy, they also get the pallet when they lose. (there's always a survivor nearby) also hatch escape.

[@NotRealAkira]

@@salinaember9527 "Survivors get rewarded for getting out of chase" ... No shit

[@dommassa2667]

@@salinaember9527 basekit? what? it's called teammate, there is no basekit

[@danielquijada2350]

i feel like what most survivor mains or in between killer mains dont understand is that without aura reading perks there isnt much nurse can do her being able to abuse these perks is not any different than any other killer abusing a different perk, personally i just think that survivors HATE that shes an actual challenge and you actually have to use your brain against her.

[@proudgerard8155]

this is an unpopular opinion, please don't ever say that to a survs audience again

[@Plarkrld]

Finally a actual normal non cope comment in this cesspool

[@logantrujillo4719]

They made For The People not count as a heal anymore. They did this in order to keep ftp the same while nerfing the free synergies like ftp + mft(or wglf) I don't see why they can't make certain parts of the nurse just not work with aura. (There was even otz's idea of blocking killer power with DS but bringing it back to 3 sec. This made the perk's affect even out across weaker and stronger killers) Maybe only while she's charging a blink, she is unable to see auras? That way, she can kind of still use them, just not as freely to blink right on top of auras. I'd like to hear others' opinions on the idea. Even if behavior will never see this

[@reiidiota4387]

I played against a nurse with that exact build today, not gonna lie, even though i won, i was frustated. I had to play trying as much as i could to be sneak and try not to get found, cuz if she found any of the survivors, she would down it. Thats why some people quit the game when find out it is playing against a nurse, it's already hard to play against a good nurse, now it's almost impossible.

[@boblee8069]

The only way to balance this killer would be to add a slowdown and animation for her passing through tall objects and walls that would make her kind of cool to play against

[@Merumya]

nurse should be reworked, shes playing a different game than all the other killers. shes like a chess piece that can strike other pieces but doesnt have to move to their spot. that may sound fun and interesting, but its actually just op.

[@The_Nocturnal_Raven]

To be honest, that’s the only good part about her. I wish more killers felt different to play against.

[@kingol4801]

It is fun and interesting, and POWER role being OP is kinda the idea

[@Merumya]

@@kingol4801 nah, stronger than the survivors? yes. certainly. but not OP. if you feel like you have no chance, that isnt fun for very long. the devs are right imho to balance around 2.66 kills on average per game. problem with nurse (and blight) is, that there are a lot of ppl trying to hop on the win train, but dont take the time to become actually good, that inflate the statistics.

[@Sprachitektur]

@@kingol4801just say you suck lol

[@feathero3]

DBD Dev 1: Hmm, Predator perk isn't super useful. DBD Dev 2: Should we change the way scratch marks intensities are shown? Maybe make them last longer, or increase the amount of markings? DBD Dev 1: Nah, let's just change it entirely to be yet another busted wall hacking option for players. DBD Dev 2: Brilliant! Adding it to the pile. Oh while we're at it, let's reduce the effectiveness of that single pesky wall hack protection perk survivors have. Can't have people thinking stealth is an actual option in this game.

[@parrapaTh3Rappa]

Nurse aside, perks like these are literally always bad for the game. It completely kills a survivor's ability to escape chase on any killer with decent mobility and encourages more survivors hiding and avoiding chase, which is bad for everyone. Plus it makes tunneling even easier, which is further bad for the health of the game. People complain about survivor second chance perks but a killer (the literal power role, not up to discussion, it's clear in the game's design outside of well coordinate SWFs which is a whole nother discussion and not the norm) second chance perk is a good thing? Losing a killer in chase should be a rewarding thing for a survivor, especially considering there's a ton of perks designed around this like Dance with me, etc. Now, losing chase works to the killer's advantage, which effectively nerfs all of those perks AND gives the survivor the choice of staying in chase the entire game or getting hooked for pretty much every chase. We really need to move away from the whole "designed for new player" perks. They typically result in being massively overpowered in a remotely skilled player's hands because, well, that's how balance works when you design something with the thought of "this will make games easier for beginners". Sometimes I feel like BHVR just thinks "how far can we take this and STILL scam money out of these people with random skins and crap" because these types of things really seem like they're trying to intentionally kill the game.

[@kotorilvnyu8315]

Nerf Distortion / buff Predator Me : I'm done.

[@Lobi10879]

Shadow step meta now begins.

[@tmoney1487]

Extend the range of the boon and maybe, alot of the time shadow step just doesnt reach far enough to cover any good loops for nurse so it ends up being a wasted perk

[@michaeldones2320]

This is great! An actual horror game instead of Dead by Daylight and even then he still had one gen left in both matches. An Elite player. This would also be a good payout for the avg killer who wants to try Nurse.

[@nekonekomikan]

I will laugh so hard the day they adjust descriptions to say "all killers except Nurse" ....

[@valerthakov]

Now what happens if you pair predator and play with your food ? The names fit each other well too tbh

[@EvanSnowWolf]

For a supposedly broken build, they still got down to 1 gen.

[@muslimayupov]

because in order to make this perk work you need to trade a chase, which is suicide on large maps with large obstacles, due to genrush

[@trumpilstylskyn5453]

Fun!! I cant even imagine that there will be a massive survivor exodus because of all this dynamic interactive gameplay from the killer

[@Ultradahn]

Can’t believe they gave Nurse a Sister Friede skin

[@idonthaveaname7769]

and they just nerfed distortion because killers wouldnt stop crying about it

[@ksfallenangel5770]

I've never once thought about it but yeah, BHVR must really think of a cool perk or changed perk and then go: "Alright. Now if a nurse main uses this perk is it too overpowered?"

[@Minecraftgnom]

Oh, interesting. When you lose one chase while predator is already active like in 6:05, it will actually activate AGAIN, because the cooldown is only activating once the aura-reading effect is ended.

[@GrannyBacon_]

Did anyone else hear her at 8:03 ??

[@jacobwilson2159]

Damn bruh, ur watching a utube vid not playing a game as spirit

[@SillyG1mp]

leverage + gift of pain + plaything + 2 pentimento stacks is super good atm.

[@kingol4801]

Amazing build honestly

[@nightman922]

Did calculations for this since I was curious: Leverage + Penti (2 stack) + Mangled (surv unhooked from gift of pain) + Gift of pain heal reduction (survivor unhooking already healed and has gift of pain applied): **68.027 second heal**

[@TheEldenCheese]

they should make it kinda like how PWYF works, but the opposite? so it only works once ur in chase long enough.

[@TheEldenCheese]

or they could just nerf nurse for once lol

[@blueboy1958]

Good fucking idea. Nerf a perk because nurse is too strong 😂

[@TheEldenCheese]

@@blueboy1958 i mean, even on killers besides Nurse its still an extremely strong effect. They just have to enter chase with you for even a split second, and then if they lose you after that, it wont matter cuz theyll just see your aura. i think a 5-10 second chase timer before it activates would be totally fair.

[@chrispyc8495]

Like it even makes since to give her blindness when holding her power because she always wears something over her eyes so it wouldn’t even feel out of no where

[@lucule2978]

By Ur logic, clown is fat, why is he 4.6?

[@kishidark545]

@@lucule2978being fat doesn’t prevent u from being faster wtf u even saying 💀

[@satanasvobiscum]

@@lucule2978You can be strong *and* fat, y’know. The guy kidnapped and killed people before being taken as well, so he very clearly isn’t completely out of shape. Plus, y’know, the tonics exist.

[@breadstick18355]

lets be honost when isnt nurse broken

[@white_hound6811]

When I play her

[@dawnbestgirl17yearsago98]

Me playing her and getting no hooks cause my blink suck ass

[@StandByXero]

This nurse skin is pretty cool! I love the skeleton hand when you charge a blink

[@Sixdawg06]

When distortion was needed the most it was nerfed.

[@The_Nocturnal_Raven]

I never understood why they nerfed it. They never gave any alternative that is consistent.

[@nightman922]

It still counters this decently. Assuming you can last the 30 seconds to gain a charge back.

[@1wakuralain]

Hardened requires a side quest but I'm starting every friggin game doing the side quest.

[@nightman922]

@@1wakuralain Hardened only stops screams though, not aura read

[@1wakuralain]

@@nightman922 oh sheesh, you're right. I've been gaslighting myself for a day now.

[@Camscam]

Not to throw the devs shade and all... but I saw this coming from a mile away once the patch notes first dropped. But hey, I guess we get to look forward to the most oppressive next few months since Chess Merchant as everyone realizes the oppressive power of wallhack Nurse.

[@Jaiden_Anime_Shuns]

As a fan of all 3 castlevania DS games thisbupdate is such a treat

[@timymax]

If they wanted to Nerf in this ability without completely destroying it why not change it from aura reading to Killer Instinct? That way you keep the foundation of what this perk is going for without breaking it completely

[@Fluffyxox-n2e]

good idea, but unfortunately that would basically just be a cosmetic swap.

[@Tr1umph4nt]

Theres an even better idea, just nerf nurse lmao

[@timymax]

@@Tr1umph4nt well that's a big fat duh XD

[@carnifex413]

Imagine giving the players a complete aura reading meta and nerf distortion until it is garbage 🤣

[@WilliamAfton1946]

It's still good. Just not good for rats

[@nhbjhbbhbhgvb]

@@WilliamAfton1946you’re literally supposed to play like a rat in this game. That should be the point, not to run around and tbag a killer you aren’t afraid of

[@neya7902]

@@WilliamAfton1946 I don't use distortion and it's garbage now. Seeing as a lot of killers bring 4 aura perks. Most people aren't godly at chases and will need to drop pallets to hold a chase. And now with predator the killer gets rewarded for making a mistake (losing chase).

[@WilliamAfton1946]

@@neya7902 just watched comp play. They predrop and hold w

[@chara7653]

sounds like a skill issue better gut gud at looping bud

[@MaximusProxi]

Problem why nurse doesn't get nerfed is that a lot of inexperienced people suck on her and lose terribly. And since BHVR nerfs and buffs according to data, nurse is probably even on the lower end of kills per game. Which obviously doesn't mean the killer is beyond busted in the right hands.

[@ZamasuManzon]

Why Skull Merchant, Billy and every other killer gets reworks or nerfed and Nurse is basically the same for 8 FUCKING years?

[@osi3718]

SM gets it cause survivors complained alot , billy got it because survivors complained lot. Nurse gets complaints but doesn't have a high pick rate + the fix for her is to do as everyone said and add blindness when charging so she doesn't have wall hacks mid blinks and shit.

[@jayydasavageeexx9403]

⁠@@osi3718what survivors complained about billy before he was buffed again ? If anything most survivors like going billy

[@magical571]

i'm pretty sure they are also going by the "feel" of newish or more casual players too. who aren't as good on nurse. she doesn't have that high of a kill count on below average lobbies, and she also doesn't have the highest pick rate (it is by no means low, last time they shared it, she was 8th at 4%, but it's not stupidly high either). make of that what you will, i'm not saying it's a good choice, just a hunch about why they do it.

[@magical571]

@@jayydasavageeexx9403 a lot of people were placing billy as top three. i would say that counts as a complain, even if they weren't saying "nerf him right now"

[@redshirt49]

@@magical571 Those same people also placed Nurse and Blight at One and Two, so the Billy nerf was weird. And it took them four years to remove an easily abuseable exploit from Blight. Nurse meanwhile, remains utterly unchanged aside from a few adjustments to her addons. Which is irrelevant, since she is still the strongest killer in the game without any addons.

[@realBurny]

Honestly.. I don't know, why this whole issue only focusses on the nurse. As if it is less broken on Blight or the Huntress. Nevertheless, the perk itself is broken by design.. killers will see the aura of a survivor as soon as he/she had lost the chase. What the hell is this? 90 percent of the time I play killer - and I think, that's an absolutely weird change. I won't use the perk - it's OP on every killer.

[@vincentwygers220]

Meh It's not worth it, Usually you wiill have to get out of your way to lose chase. It's better to just down them bc you're Nurse.

[@salinaember9527]

this is the reasonable observation. it will be like purposely losing chase when using play with your food. its not worth it.

[@vincentwygers220]

@@salinaember9527 PWYF can be worth it if you do it right. And on some killers/builds But with this perk it's not.

[@SAVAGENEDVED]

Why does Soma Cruz sound like Elijah Wood when he screams. Steaight up frodo being stabbed by the witch king.

[@jessejohn7406]

Ah yes...nerf distortion so wall hacks are even stronger

[@zackmash851]

distortion needed a nerf not because it was too strong to prevent killers from winning, but because it was too effective for ratting and could single-handedly ruin solo queue games. it needed the change to make the state of solo queue bearable. hopefully they look at wake up/sole survivor next

[@Pinheadsplaything]

WA WA I cant hide in the corner of the map while my team dies on hook😭😭😭😭😭😭😭

[@jessejohn7406]

@zackmash851 even tho that was the case the fact tht killers get more aura reading is pretty disgusting and these days alot of killers have aura reading on their add ons as well it's kind of a problem

[@jessejohn7406]

@@Pinheadsplaything just look in the corners of the map🤷🏾‍♂️

[@Pinheadsplaything]

@@jessejohn7406 it's not though i mean you could learn how to survive in chase but that's not for you right you would rather hide in the corner of the map and escape with hatch

[@fallshd6992]

im fairly certain mend is a health state because if you use for the people on someone in deep wound it will leave them injured

[@tmoney1487]

It is, perks like inner strength that restore a health state also only remove mending status if you use it while deep wounded. It is its own seperate health state.

[@realisNeo]

I‘ll say it again, have perks have different effects on Nurse than on the rest…or make her blind during power, that could work too, yeah.

[@BuckBlaziken]

I main nurse and couldn’t believe they were unintentionally buffing her AGAIN by making a perk that boosts her ability to know where you are and blink to you

[@Phlipit]

These are the games where, as a survivor, I just shut my brain off. I feel completely powerless, no matter what I try. GGs GLN

[@UncleDaniel]

Thats me every game lol

[@tmoney1487]

These are the ganes where i take the 60 second DC penalty, or just give up on hook.

[@Phlipit]

@@tmoney1487 Depends on my mood, but I save my DC penalties for very specific situations. I'll let myself go on hook if my teammates are crouching in the corner. If they're actually trying, I'll do what I can, just not put too much mental strain on it.

[@SteffArrowPlay2DeadbyDaylight]

Considering how much aura reading perks there in game, a new status effect revealed just to know when killer sees your aura is not a bad thing at all.

[@Tobi-qu7go]

"This perk does not work when playing as The Nurse." -- Fixed.

[@devxved]

I started playing the game back when nurse was in every match and ruin made you hit your skill checks. I play killer mostly, but if theres one killer i can 5 gen run to the point they give up chasing me its nurse. Every other killer im trash at running, but nurse players fear me, even the p100 ones. Too many people dont know how to force a nurse into objects they cant blink through properly and try to run her like a normal killer. Shes the one killer you can actually run edge map on the rocks effectively. However this changes things, time to run object every game.

[@Hatecrewdethrol]

"After hearing the feedback regarding the changes to Predator and Nurse, we have decided to nerf Pig again" -Behavior

[@Napstah]

dbd community when they make the same over used joke for 8 years

[@GenericUserName443]

@@Napstah But you got to agree that BHVR have a very "interesting" history of what they nerf and what they buff... Where it sometimes looks completely random and with no sense or reason behind it.

[@Peachrocks5]

@@Napstah Is it really overused when it continues to be true? I mean it may not be Pig but it's nerfing something that usually doesn't need it while ignoring Nurse.

[@Napstah]

@@GenericUserName443 you dont need to tell me that, one of my main killer was skull merchant and i hate what they have done to it , still , its not gonna make the pig nerf funny in the slightest when funnily enought , pig never got nerfed

[@GenericUserName443]

@@Napstah Yea that pig nerf "joke" stopped being funny years ago. I tried SM again now after the patch and it is just just a bad joke how they pretty much killed that character. The worst part is IMO how you now literally get punished for using your power with the slowdown. It is already unlikely to get a scan off to begin with how nerfed the drones have become, but to also slow you down when using your power? Now that is them killing a character off without actually removing it from the roster.

[@Remix333ify]

08:03 you could hear her on shack. She was vaulting the window.

[@kainkokkeler4200]

I mean Nurse can already stomp like this with zero aura reading perks. I would know since I main her. I think the problem is more that theres too many ways to read aura rn rather than "its too good on nurse"

[@brawdz31]

How effective would this perk be on trapper? No where near as effective as nurse.

[@tmoney1487]

Just overhaul nurse's power to give her a sort of wesker dash instead of a straight up teleport.

[@kingol4801]

@@tmoney1487 Counterpoint - Wesker is a speedster and should have a game-accurate teleport instead of a rubbish power he has in DbD.

[@CH-wn4le]

Not related to the Predator changes, but the mori is broken for this skin: if you look at the survivor "grabbing" the killer's arms in the choking animation, you can see that they don't even touch the bones, probably because they would be touching on an actual personoid model.

[@SpookySkeletonGang]

Blindness during blink and fatigue would make aura a bit more annoying to use on her, but it would still be incredibly strong. Charging blinks is simply too fast. I mean compare it to spirit, just entering spirit walk takes longer than it takes to blink as nurse, and then you still have to actually spirit walk lol. Tbh maybe nurse just shouldnt be able to use aura at all? Or they need to nerf her cool downs because 6 seconds to recharge both blinks, and 1.5 to charge a blink to full, are both far shorter than any other killer, while having an effect thats far stronger.

[@GoldenDeer_]

Idk why they just make it so Nurse gets blindness while charging blinks. So you can still see where they are before the blink

[@swag7185]

As a survivor i generally enjoy playing against nurses. They are a very strong killer but always felt like I had a chance. But i genuinely see no counterplay to this as s survivor. No double back or line of sight break can save you from this.

[@tmoney1487]

A good nurse will just look at the ground if you try to double back then lunge into you, or teleport backwards onto you. And they will teleport to the corner of the building they last seen you, so if youre doubling back they just hit you and if you're not they just blink forward and hit you anyway. The only thing yoy have to get good at with nurse is timing your blinks correctly.

[@semplar2007]

i do like looping nurses when they're mediocre (noob nurses are not fun to loop) and so we play 50/50 game, but at some "skill level" they become so good, it's always a hit and so it becomes unfun to go against. especially when they utilize uncounterable strategies, as "walking me down like a dog", or blinking right across the corner. lunges also sometimes look like nurse does 360 turn and gets sort of bluetooth hits

[@zackmash851]

if the nurse is playing like hens, the counter is to hold W. take the hit and make as much distance as possible. he wont catch up in time with 2 blinks if he's hanging back like hens to force perk value. you can simply outlast the aura read

[@semplar2007]

@@zackmash851 and if you're nearly cornered? happens several times in this video

[@kingol4801]

Because you are not supposed to escape her…… Power role should NOT have counterplay. That is just poor game design

[@schmoferino]

Most interesting Nurse gameplay

[@randomguy6695]

Dude, that perk is disgusting on Nurse. Wtf…

[@kittymyths1208]

Either they should add her blindness while blinking or just give her an entirely different power

[@Baileeeeeyyy]

It’ll never happen, since Nurse mains would explode and BHVR don’t want that kind of controversy, but Nurse needs a completely fundamental rework. We can’t keep pretending that having a character who ignores the fundamentals of the game while being pretty easy to use is okay, not to mention the bottlenecking she does for other killers.

[@kittymyths1208]

Controversy from whom? Barely anyone plays her

[@Baileeeeeyyy]

@@kittymyths1208 but the people who do main her are some of the most committed mains in the community (mainly because she pretty much plays her own video game and her skills are completely non-transferable to other killers, but I digress). BHVR don’t want that heat, even if it’s pretty obvious game health should be prioritised over keeping a small % of the playerbase happy.

[@MuhammadSarsar]

@@BaileeeeeyyyWhy are people complaining so hard about nurse? I barely face her and when I do it feels refreshing not going against blight for the 10th time of the day. I find playing against her fun, who can outsmart who.

[@Fluffyxox-n2e]

Sincerely, BHVR do not care about any of the backlash you predict. They buff/nerf based on kill rate numbers. (insert every time they've nerfed low tier killers because they're too good at killing noobs; Pig comes to mind) Nurse's kill rate is where they want it, so she will never be changed, thats it. They do not have the fun factor perspective players have because they do not play the game they develop, they read a spreadsheet.

[@TheAquaAuthor]

I hope that BHVR makes it so Nurse gets blindness while charging blinks.

[@uggZymoroon]

I knew predator was going to be a problem the second I read it in the ptb patch notes. There is just too meany killers that would benefit.

[@Fluffyxox-n2e]

thats... the point of bringing perks... to benefit. There is literally nothing wrong with new predator, its literally just I'm All Ears 2 Electric Boogaloo and nobody even knows that perk exists anymore.

[@qewqweeqwsdfdfgdfgcvb]

i think that with other killers it going to be decent, but with nurse and blight...

[@xMondhirsch]

New Predator sounds brokenly strong.

[@Watch_The_Skys]

And it is.

[@shadowofsecracy]

for Nurse sure but for the average killer no.

[@Zallot]

@@shadowofsecracy is not good for pro nurse

[@Suspicious_Rush]

Killer sided game, nothing new here 😒

[@kittymyths1208]

It's not

[@SbeveHarringains]

@@kittymyths1208we get it you main killer

[@muslimayupov]

​@@SbeveHarringainskillers cant have nice things like swf players do with discord etc etc

[@goldentortoisebeetle9741]

Just run quick and quiet and when you see a nurse has intention of breaking chase with you, you hop into a locker lol

[@brawdz31]

And this happens after distortion gets nerfed. Let’s see how fast we back track

[@ScarTrek]

At least one good thing has come out of all this: I discovered Hens is a good looking guy!

[@rapxbattle3582]

everyones gonna be playing nurse for the skin and perk now 😭😭

[@Laculan]

@@rapxbattle3582 good

[@Haaaaaaaaarper]

Holy f this might me the best skin in the entire game now. That looks crazy good

[@yeetusfaleetus]

I feel like the only realistic way to balance this without ruining the perk for every other killer is to just make it so Nurse can't see auras while charging and during a blink so she'd only briefly get to see auras before she starts charging a blink and can't see them again until after she's out of fatigue. This doesn't feel like a problem of the perk, 'cause this is probably one of the best buffs they could've given this perk and it needed it, this is just an issue with Nurse being Nurse

[@Fire-fx4im]

It’s useless lol 40 second cooldown

[@tmoney1487]

That doesnt help anything it takes like 2 seconds to charge a blink, and she can see you before she blinks with aura read. Where are you exactly going to go in those 2 seconds without leaving scratch marks or blood pools to somehow indicate your location? After she blinks she should be right on top of you able to see you with her eyeballs making aura reading redundant and pointless. Her power needs to be reworked to a dash instead of a teleport, and her speed reverted to a 110 killer. Basically make her a wesker.

[@dodang_9147]

It is literally worthless perk on every killer EXCEPT for nurse. only BVHR would design a perk that is hot garbage for all killers only to buff nurse.

[@michaelp4530]

i think a great way to nerf nurse without making any changes to her base kit other than visually for the player playing nurse is stretching the screen when the nurse blinks so she doesn't have constant info when teleporting from place to place. it helps the survivors against aura reading like predator, im all ears but it'll still be good info for nurse to use other aura readings like bbq chili, darkness revealed, etc.. it'll definitely show the skill gap when vs'ing a bad and good nurse player as well and not only that the power of nurse will be like the power states: blinking. not being able to see clearly when teleporting will definitely make nurse feel more fair without having to make drastic changes.

[@rainbowskin3379]

I think they fundamentally didn't think of how this perk would function mechanically. Obviously it was intended to help new players not lose people, but the fact that chase usually ends when you get the first hit, breaks this perk. I don't even think this is a nurse issue, the perk is insanely strong at completely taking away the ability to break LOS on killers after taking the first hit.

[@tmoney1487]

Catering to the killer community cause theyre more likely to spend money on new killers than survivors are to spend money on new survivors. Killers get whole new mechanics and dynamics to play with as well as 3 new perks. Survivors just get 3 perks (that are normally mid at best) and essentially a new cosmetic. The most op thing about belmont is his cape fucking with the killer's ability to judge lunges. Dracula has 3 different forms and a power to go with each of them making him essentially 3 killers in one. Vecna has like 4 different unique powers and a special chest mechanic. The survivor had....bardic inspiration for the memes.

[@Skladak_Killer_98]

@@tmoney1487 4x more survivor players than killers, but yes, killer community is the milkin cow, bruh

[@GenericUserName443]

@@tmoney1487 But that is because all survivors are identical in mechanics so there is a lot less room for variety, while with killers you can do almost anything since they are different from each other in more than just looks. And it is a good thing that they are making more advanced and interesting killers, instead of the barebone that the old killers were. With this said, new mechanics made available to the survivors that is NOT connected to perks would be appreciated, like for example healing stations on maps, many more interactive items on maps (the alien map with the freeze is a very good thing) etc.

[@kingol4801]

……. That is the point. It is the perk to give advantage against line of sight situations. Just like how pallet perks and other chase perks exist to do things

[@theducktdm536]

Maybe nurse needs to be the firat and only killer who has a built in aura reading reduction. Like reverse lethal pursuer basically

[@doi5451]

Please just nerf nurse. Please BHVR. Make her blink travel speed a little slower or something, I know you can do it.

[@Laculan]

@@doi5451 🤢

[@doi5451]

@@Laculan found the nurse main

[@Laculan]

@@doi5451 Here's a medal

[@SubxZeroGamer]

Finally the Nurse/Wraith love is canon. This perk was meant for her uwu

[@Drimirin]

The trend towards adding more and more wall hacks to this game is extremely unhealthy as well as crippling to individual skill progression. I stand firmly against it.

[@bunnythehutt2148]

Agreed, I feel the same way with every perk giving movement speed. It's the most generic and laziest way to make a perk strong, there's never any effort or thought put into it.

[@UncleDaniel]

And every new killer has anti loop might has well remove all pallets from dbd

[@white_hound6811]

​@@UncleDanielanti loop powers are fun what sucks are the loop denial killers like skull merchant or knight

[@smooth-jazz-man6687]

I find it interesting that over the course of this game and it's updates, the playerbase tended to hate hard on gen slowdown perks, because doing 6-7 gens every match is exhausting. But now the updates tend towards haste/aura perks so that killers have more chase lethality options a lot of the player base hates that too. Obviously this is busted on nurse, but from BHVR's point of view, anything that reduces chase time in lieu of increasing gen time is a win. I think their overall view is to reduce the duration of the average game, while maintaining balance, and decrease queue times by doing so.

[@freezerounds]

@@white_hound6811 I say chase power instead of anti-loop. Anti-loop to me is loop denial.