Is Oakensoul The Best or Worst Thing to Happen in ESO?

This new mythic 1pc item set has become the focal point of ESO. In this video I give my opinion on it and what I think needs done. Please make sure to like, subscribe and comment as it helps my channel grow!
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0:00 Intro
1:05 Oakensoul buffs
2:03 PTS Oakensoul stats
4:28 Who was Oakensoul intended for?
5:02 ESO GCD vs traditional MMOs
6:42 Why it's so powerful
08:32 Raising the floor
09:40 PvE Opinion
10:55 Outro
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[@ZombieProdigyUS]

I personally love it. The best players are still likely running 2 bars, so while it makes the average player much better, those at the top are still more powerful with 2 bars.

[@iamunknown5116]

U sure about those “best players” you speak of? They’re running it too, the ring is op and everyone wants to wear it. No one is using 2 bars at the moment unfortunately, the “best players” use their head and slot werewolf as their ultimate that way they have access to another bar but they’re all running this ring atm

[@katrinakelemen2773]

Most of the vet players I know are running it because it makes combat more efficient. The constant uptime for ultis and major buffs is more than worth sacrificing the few skills that that were used mainly to gain these buffs in the first place. (In PvP anyway). The ring isn't a bad idea in helping those who struggle in maintaining buffs, however, I think that some of the majors should be adjusted.

[@SmilesOFun]

This just isn't true. A large segment of players will always go to the easiest build. The top players are running this because the ceiling is higher than normal with this ring, just like the floor

[@rickymartinez8054]

@@iamunknown5116 The okensoul ring is definitely not used by the best players in PvP for werewolf. Its descent to play werewolf with imperial stam sorc, but every other class mostly not really. NB, Temp are the ones whom benefit the most from this ring due to their high damage spammables and abilities. DK and Sorc work well with the ring but have a slight draw back. Necro and Warden are ok with the ring, but dual bar with these classes are better. Overall the Okensoul ring provides solo or average players an optional tool that helps them compete with those who are "good players" that have mastered bar swapping, animation cancelling, and running strong sets that proc with timing. By that, good players will use the ring, not due to needing it, but because for them it is likely easier, and on top of that they will only run it with the strongest classes and set up they can thinker of; niche builds per say.

[@newworldforward1842]

Not sure this is true. You can't get anywhere near the mitigation, ulti regen and buffs using 2 bars. I can't for the life of me figure out how to make my sorc dps better with two bars than one bar plus the ring.. And I consider myself an experienced player.

[@silverwood9850]

As a senior gamer--I'm in my 60's--I think Oakensoul is a worthwhile addition to ESO in certain situations. However, I still prefer my two bar builds for most PVE content.

[@supertrexandroidx]

Me, too. Like a lot of people, I spent a lot of time acquiring it as soon as the expansion was released, but have hardly used it since. I belong to guilds that won't even allow its use for parses, so that's another disincentive. It's all moot, though, in the long term, because Zos will almost certainly nerf it in the near future, and after that probably few people will want to still use it. I mean, if they "balance" it in such a way that most people find it makes content harder than easier, what would be the point, and I'm not sure how much they can "tone it down" without that being the end result. It's probably too late for ESO, but hopefully Zos has learned its lesson and with their next MMO will have the stats split for pve/pvp.

[@whyno713]

I wanted this years ago as it gives us more meaningful variance, tradeoffs - benefits vs costs, and adds depths overall. The buffs can be easily & appropriately balanced to ensure fair gameplay. And who doesn't like more choice? Kudos to the Devs for proactive gameplay design, vision, and guts to bring additional change.

[@dubbin63]

Being a grey hair solo player with poor reaction times and difficulty with bar swaps I think it's great.

[@RisemyMinions]

I could NOT have said it better myself!! 100% agree!!!

[@jerrymcdaniel6643]

I feel this in my soul 😅

[@jdholbrook33]

I fully agree!

[@tbullock8683]

You just described me! An older WOW player just wanting a more casual, and mostly solo, MMO experience. Oakensoul is a most welcome addition.

[@aiparodyman]

LOL, yep, I'm an old fart who loves not having to bar swap.

[@tobarstep]

I've seen suggestions to make it so that certain of the buffs like Heroism, Protection, and Force be disabled when Battle Spirit is active. This would greatly tune-down the power of the ring in PvP while not impacting it for PvE.

[@stephennewell8477]

Perfect 👍

[@iamunknown5116]

It’s already got a huge flaw, having no second bar is a serious problem especially when you have used 2 bars from launch, they can’t really do much to it and it’s already been changed 3 or 4 times before it was launched

[@michalispieris5369]

@@iamunknown5116 You dont have a second bar because you dont need one. The ring literally gives the buffs that you would otherwise had to maintain by using skills on ur backbar for free with 100% uptime. Not only that, it gives you buffs that you couldnt get even if you had a backbar. People call it a huge flaw, but they dont even realize how insane it is when you dont have to maintain any buff.

[@individual116]

@@michalispieris5369 idk I’ve made 3 one bar builds and all of them are missing something. It’s not like it’s the most perfect thing ever. Should change to minor force and heroism and reevaluate imo

[@michalispieris5369]

@@individual116 Its not about what you are missing but about what you are getting and i dont mean how good the buffs are. Im talking about the fact that you no longer have to maintain any buff, ur gameplay becomes very simple meaning its hard to do mistakes, you no longer have to create burst windows, you can freely choose any potion you want without feeling pidgeonholed into a specific potion just for the sake of getting one mandatory buff. This utility is unparalleled by any set. Its just completely bonkers.

[@MiichJacobs]

Disable some major and minor buffs when battle spirit is active. No changes to the mythic needed and everyone can still use it.

[@leowulf8641]

I feel very underwhelmed by it on my Templar, and miss having 5HOTS when I use oaken soul, it would be nice if maybe instead of major heroism or major force that it had major vitality as this gives some healing back, but it also nerfs it enough that DKs NBs and Temps don't get the over functionality of it in PvP. in pve however I feel it is perfect, I have arthritis and this has 100% saved the game for me.

[@daledraper4728]

Fuck that major heroism is the best

[@noonesfang131]

@@daledraper4728 Well yeah its great but every other source of it in the game is situational or requires group coordination. Just because it's good doesn't mean that having 100% for no effort is at all balanced. Sure you give up a second bar, but that bar probably also doesn't give you major heroism let alone half the buffs on the ring. I think it's a great addition to the game just it's a bit overturned atm.

[@rouge9133]

All theyd need to do is make the buffs active against non human enemies. That way casual players in pve can still enjoy it an pvp dosnt have to deal with it at all.

[@usualsurrender5298]

The buffs are applied to the player, not to their targets. There's no code that could drop buffs depending on which type of target the player is attacking. Too complicated, and even pointless as gankers would still benefit from these pre-buffs until they land their first attack on an enemy player. Quickest way is simply to deactivate the ring when Battle Spirit is on.

[@rouge9133]

@@usualsurrender5298 thats perfect solution

[@Jupltus]

@@usualsurrender5298 But their is, Battle Spirit says hello, Rallying Cry set.

[@usualsurrender5298]

@@Jupltus you mean granting all these buffs when you attack an NPC? That wouldn't solve the problem in Cyrodiil. Just light attack a guard, get the buffs for a few seconds, hit the players, re-apply. That's more proc to calculate, more lags, and doesn't solve the issue. Just making the ring inactive when Battle spirit is active, that's much simpler.

[@jdholbrook33]

Just completely disable it in PvP. Let them eat cake!

[@IcyfireGaming]

Honestly, the real question should be, "Should Oakensoul get the Mist Form treatment?" - And by that I mean, we disable certain buffs when in PvP, and leave it fully functional as is in PvE.

[@dracuhl8342]

Sure but not to uselessness in pvp. It shouldnt be THE way to go but instead a viable way to go.

[@andrewkarn9255]

Booo. Just get better at pvp. Or use the ring yourself. Maybe both

[@anotherstruggler00]

@@andrewkarn9255 I'm not crying about your comment just wanna make that clear, but, this maybe be incredibly discouraging for people who see your comment. Everyone can get better at pvp yes undeniably that is true its just some people don't have the ability to sit down a learn tech for a few hours at a time

[@andrewkarn9255]

@@anotherstruggler00 ya but that's like saying take all the mechanics out of vet trials because people don't have time to learn them...... PVP is the REAL end game. It's the hardest content there is so why nerf it?! I said this to someone before, if you compare what people are saying about this ring and about nightblades and or gankers, to some other game say like Halo for instance. You're basically saying let's get rid of sniper rifles and rocket launchers and grenades because they are too powerful and then everyone is just left with some crappy assault rifle in the end that has no range or damage. That just sounds lame to me. Especially when the innate play style for a nightblade is to be a stealthy ASSASSIN. You take away that play style you take away class identity. Plus ZOS gives us skills like revealing flare or the new serpents ring to literally counter gankers....

[@anotherstruggler00]

@@andrewkarn9255 I agree with this I do the vet trial is a great analogy, though deltia made a really good point the floor has been raised but the ceiling hasn't I just personally believe it's a bit overtuned is the perspective of 1vx this is amazing and the detriment of paying you back bar for alot of buffs is worth I just wish there would be more diversity in said setups due to the impact Oakes soul has put on the game

[@Agapanthah]

I'm a oldster...and I love one bar. I want to enjoy the game...and experience extreme immersion. I don't want to constantly worry about bar swapping. I don't feel overly powerful with Oakensoul, but I feel empowered to try more difficult content that I KNOW I couldn't even handle before. I don't like grouping very much unless it's with hubby because of prior experiences with groups (in other games). Most people don't seem to know how to play as a team, I guess :). It's a challenge that requires smart, even-tempered, good-intentioned, and reliable players for success. I'm enjoying the game so much more now. I have more confidence. I'm happier in my pve experience. I'm not a pvp player unless I'm forced to be, because of a festival or some other requirement, so I'm sorry if it messes with that...but I've never understood making the same ruleset for pve and pvp anyway...since they are two divergent paradigms. The playstyles are different.

[@jdholbrook33]

Well said

[@SlatsAU]

This is me. I don’t have the hand eye coordination I did in my twenties. I got my first vVH clear ever with Oakensoul. It was still hard and at the same time still fun. I am feeling more confident and eventually hope to take the training wheels off at some point in the future but for now I am loving it.

[@Agent-di4mc]

Bar swapping is a garbage game idea and mechanic

[@newworldforward1842]

@@Agent-di4mc It's because there are only so many buttons on the controller... Pretty much all games are built for consoles these days.

[@Wonderbacon]

@@newworldforward1842 so a mechanic lifted from Guild Wars (2012), which doesn't have controller support, was console centric? Meanwhile, FFXIV has controller support for the full bar of skills without swap. I think you're reaching here at best.

[@SabinesGarden]

As someone with multiple sclerosis (which greatly effects my coordination/brain to hand signal), I’m grateful they created this. This is a wonderful addition for the disabled among us. I’ll feel far less afraid to join my guildies for vet dungeons now.

[@BlackCatOnline-]

Sorry to hear. Both one of my aunts and a close friend of mine have MS. It's a terrible disease 😔

[@sniclops15]

Found this comment just now. Hope you're doing alright. One of my mom's friends has MS, and it's rough. Super glad the item helps you feel more confident for dungeons :) I'm thinking of getting it shortly.

[@letsgobrandon5858]

I'm almost 50. Been playing this game since launch and it has brought back so much more fun in PVP. No more being stuck or unable to bar swap etc. It feels like the good old days of dragon leaping onto keeps, or using chains to do the samething! Just a blast.

[@adammenhennett]

One area this is a huge improvement is for us ppl living on the other side of the planet. I have a constant ping of about 300-400, sometimes 1000. Bar swapping used to be a major effort, and now being able to just stay on 1 bar is fantastic. With this constant high ping I will never have great dps but now at least I can hit harder than a wet noodle. 😅 I really feel this ring could single handedly improve server performance- if everyone is using half the skills, that's a %50 reduction in stress and calculations per second for the servers = performance increase.

[@chicken133221]

I use to ESO on playstation for years. Took a 3.5 year break and restarted on PC. I still use controller. Tried M&K but hands hurt after a while. Can't get a perfect rotation down and partially due to old hands. I have tried Oakensoul on a character I only lvled to CP. Was kinda fun. Will help me LvL skills and play different when I need little more chill. It didn't feel right because I am used to bar swaps but i think it will help boost me to want to play what was my mule characters. Glad there is a ring like this cause I had friends who can't bar swap well cause of disability.

[@NoFocksGiven_]

Nothing to do with old Hands lmfao. Game doesn't work. Lag is why you can't land a combo. When your Ultimates don't drop in people for 30 seconds an you have 500 but can't even do a heavy surprise attack because the game is too laggy. Let's be honest great Idea for a game but it was Run into the ground harder than the Biden administration is running the entire country into the ground.

[@nemeliom455]

Honestly, it helps ppl with high ping. Most of players are from places close to the servers, with at most 100 ping. But some ppl, like us South americans, play with 220 ping. Not having to bar swap and/or use 3 skills to set all buffs up, actually helps.

[@adammenhennett]

I live in Malaysia and my ping is constantly 300-400, and sometimes gets wobbly and goes to 1000....4000....1000 and then back to good old 300 to 400. Oakensoul is bloody brilliant to combat this atrocious lag, and I LOVE not bar swapping now!

[@cuddlyxfrosty1399]

@@adammenhennett wow how can you play with 400 ping. my ping in Australia hovers around 220 at its best. during prime time ping is 250 however fps hits 50-60ish in busy keep fights.

[@adammenhennett]

@@cuddlyxfrosty1399 let me just say not all heroes wear capes (;-D)

[@andrewhancock9713]

@@adammenhennett I'm actually stoked that your ping is as bad as mine!!! :) I'm in NZ and been playing for too long not bar swapping is amazing as when i request it it doesn't happen when i wish it did

[@andrewhancock9713]

Have to agree i'm from Nz and been playing since 2014 with a 220 plus ping had a 7mth break & this one bar ring has given me some new ideas. otherwise bored as cant compete with players on 100 or less ping

[@negandavidson9600]

As someone who makes one bar builds, I love it! Took me 3 days on console to get it.

[@ccb2757]

It's definitely good for casuals. If they can come up with a way to nerf it in pvp content but leave it how it is in pve I think that would be best for most people. It's just by far op in pvp. I do less damage with oakensoul then I did with my two bars in trials but more in dungeons since getting all those buffs with 4 people is pretty difficult.

[@Roguehazard]

I agree with that. Maybe have a rebuff applied when wearing oakensoul in pvp. I for one finally was able to do vMA and it was much easier after I got oakensoul and actually made it more enjoyable gameplay

[@ccb2757]

@@Roguehazard yeah bro if they can figure out a way to nerf it for pvp but leave it for pve that would probably please atleast 80% lol u will never get a full 100%

[@geopi_]

Sadly they won't do that, they never do. PVP ruins the game for PVE players in most games, this is not ESO exclusive. They should just add a buff / debuff when you go into PVP that adds limits of some sort to damage / resistance etc and be done with it. I don't want to be nerfed as a PVE player just because something is unbalanced in a game mode I dont touch.

[@user-ko3sd9qj2h]

Very few builds get the max benefit of the ring. Actually 3 types come to mind. templar builds, dk corrosive spam, gankblade. Werewolves don't even have benefit from everything from the ring however it does add on to what they already have. 1vX is harder on 99% of builds with just one bar. Once I get used to one bar tho its going to slap.

[@ccb2757]

@@geopi_ I play both. I think it could really be an easish fix. Kinda like a battle spirit type of situation. Make it were instead of every major buff it gave minors in pvp or something along that nature.

[@individual116]

Personally, I love Oakensoul and hope they never change it. Giving up 6 skills and a back bar set is a lot to give up, but 1 bar makes the game a lot more fun for me.

[@jdholbrook33]

I've heard quite a few people say the same. It brought back the fun in the game.

[@Zederok]

Came here to say the same thing. I have only been playing ESO for 2 months now and am at CP 530 but having to manage 2 bars has been more of a chore once the newness of the game wore off. Playing 1 bar has made it so much more interesting and fun for me.

[@nblife916]

@@Zederok It also makes it possible for those of us NOT living next to servers to fight against people for whom bar swapping has never been a damn issue. Like the creator of this.

[@dracuhl8342]

@@Zederok Exactly! 2 bars just feels very gimmicky and ridiculous. I dont find it fun at all and it makes combat feel more of a chore than it does a fun thing.

[@horineesgaming7354]

@@Zederok then you could never play magsorc in the ood days, it had 3 bars haha

[@robertskr8507]

I really dislike bar swap ( not the concept ) but the friggen lag most of the time I think I had swapped bars and it did'nt swap.. myself I also prefer using just one bar rotations, but I understand having more options on 2 bars... I still get melted by some of the more sweaty players in pvp though, even using Oakensoul haha but I am not to good... so that is fair :) but I really want it for my solo play ( which I do alot ) I will also add. I am old with a minor disabilty in my hand ( not that zos should nerf game play for that ) but the ring kinda helps a bit there :)

[@jdholbrook33]

Exactly!!! I love having 2 bars but too many times I've had it either not swap or a big delay with it swapping and screw up my rotation.

[@dl-im2mz]

hi Deltia love your video's doing a good job on making alll these build guides but i do have a question, the skill advisor should i use it or not i played the game on and of for a while now. Also as a reaction on this video i think the ring is also a nice marketing tool to sell more of the latest chapter

[@Deltiasgaming]

I think it's a bit off. You can use it as a new player but experiment with what works best for you.

[@ovBEASTvo]

You can’t even switch bars in GH on Xbox NA. So until they fix the servers I think it’s a plus.

[@johnmccall4528]

It's a godsend on one-bar builds but certainly not as good for full builds with 2 whole bars. I run it on one character now and will run it on another character or two in the future. It just depends on what you're looking for.

[@gazc00p]

I'm loving how the subtitles for your vid say "Oak console" when you say Oakensoul. I'm off to the woods now to get lumber to build my new console case.

[@grumpyowl3515]

As someone that plays solo content exclusively, I welcome the Oakensoul Ring. It has allowed me to obtain buffs that I would have never seen otherwise. I could see them restricting its use in PVP, but can it really be called OP if it's available to everyone? It's not like it's exclusive to only one class or set of players. If you have access to High Isle, you can get the ring... and get it relatively easily too.

[@ryanmitchell1265]

Yes, it's still OP. Accessibility was never the criteria, if every build is better with it then it fits that criteria.

[@GXKA2191]

Plus it is technically locked behind a paywall. Of course that's only for a year but still

[@rakknoss]

So wait if i use an ability that has a temporary buff with the same effect as olk the temporary effect doesn't work?

[@TheSteadyeddieShow]

I actually noted down how I died each time during PvP last night: 4/7 times were oakensoul gankers, 2/7 were oakensoul DKs with 15k whips in corrosive (in the middle of groups). 6/7 of the times I died in a 2 hour PvP session were pretty much deaths due to oakensoul ring.. It becomes not fun when its like that - the deaths feel unavoidable and like there's very limited counterplaym I hope some kind of solution is found because I still really enjoy the ring for PvE and think it's a great idea when 2 bar builds are still more DPS. But when it's against other players it kind of sucks

[@Lboogieboog]

from a 6 year player, i love it. with 7 toons from tanks to dps and 2 healers its amazing. I play 2 many classes with each having 3 armory setups each to remember and do all this bar swapping except with a tank using staff on the back bar with crusher for trials.

[@akjoenewton7382]

It's become great hasn't it, being someone who's heard of the game since launch but never had the chance to get into. Now I'm settled and have time to do it properly the more time goes on the better this game gets.

[@nomad4594]

There's no way they will only nerf it for just pvp. Its insanely broken on any build especially gankers. We'll see it ninja nerfed once zos sells enough high isle expansions.

[@Homicideee]

There nothing to nerf about it

[@nomad4594]

@@Homicideee Watch they'll change it to give the bonuses for 10 seconds with a cool down or something. Just like they never nerf anything that is wildly out performing everything else. Sloads Hrothgar Malacath Pale order. Etc.

[@ImPoStier]

What about instead of nerfing it buff all the weaker mythics or remove it from pvp I don’t want to see it nerfed into uselessness

[@daanimeking4206]

Easy way to tell if something is op or over performing is seeing a mass majority of people using it. Mythics trashed the game

[@tribaldefender473]

Perhaps, i could finally complete VMA, with it. I suck, as a DPS 🤣. I was only been confident, as a tank, or healer.

[@VhnoriValmos]

I personally think this ring is in a good place and doesnt need to be nerfed. I am an average player with less than average gear and CP, but I also have arthritis and carple tunnel, so constantly bar swapping on top of having to focus on keeping 2 bar buffs up every few seconds is just excessive for me to handle. Has it helped me in PVE? Yes it has, a good bit. Does it cure my arthritis and allow me to play for hours on end? No it doesnt, but it does help allow me to play for more than an hour at a time. However it has done literally nothing for me as far as PVP is concerned. I worked my way up to what is considered a meta magplar pvp build, and I tried several BGs and spent time in Cyrodiil. Even people not using Oakensoul rips me to shreds in a split second during 1v1. Granted I probably just suck at pvp, but it doesnt change the fact that this ring does nothing for me in pvp. So no, imo this ring does not need to be nerfed, it is fine where its at. On the other hand, if someone else feels that their use of it has made them too powerful and they dont like feeling that strong, then just dont use the ring.

[@michalispieris5369]

Well if it didnt do anything for you in PVP then its obvious that the ring is a complete failure considering that this ring was literally created to help people like you hence why it has to change.

[@VhnoriValmos]

@@michalispieris5369 I think you misunderstood. It has helpled me and thus is not a failure. It just doesnt make me so far over the top OP that I become a god in PVP like many people seem to claim it does. The only people that thinks it makes them too powerful and are pushing for it to be nerfed are those that are already God tier to the point that even if they took the ring off, their pvp power wont change in any way that matters.

[@Mystra]

@@michalispieris5369 It wasn't created for PvP

[@michalispieris5369]

@@VhnoriValmos Most people didnt claim that it would make people with disabilities or "bad" players gods in PVP. On the contrary, its not a surprise that it didnt. Its not the first time that ZOS has thrown a completely broken set in the game "to help raise the floor". And its always the same outcome. All those sets enable completely broken builds when they are utilized by people who know what they are doing, not by people who dont. The set that is supposed to help you compete with a better player doesnt do that because that same set helps the better player A LOT more than it helps you. Thats why im saying its a failure. The issue of helping people with disabilities and new players lies a lot deeper than just a broken set.

[@michalispieris5369]

@@Mystra Not relevant who it was created for. What matters is that it works in PVP

[@jimmyjuju]

ZOS 2014: ESO will never be pay-to-win. ZOS 2022: Hold my mythic.

[@vincentvfx]

heya i just wanted to say thanks for all your great vids. something i just discovered, you may want to add it in the info you present so it gets out there. it is possible to get leads from surveys. in other words i got the lead in glenumbra from doing surveys. this was really useful for me, because i do a lot of writs. i had 16 glenumbra surveys stacked up. on about the 8 one i got the lead for oakensoul part. also, you might know this already, but if you have multiple surveys you can just walk about 100 feet away after doing one, walk right back, and all the nodes have refreshed. so if you wait til you have a stack of like 10+ you can collect a lot of mats in a very short time. if you have already put this info out, forgive me. thanks again for all the good info in your videos

[@daemondamian]

Loving that it might help me with Maelstrom, Vateshran, Dragonstar Arena & other harder or vet content that I couldn't solo or had a hard time soloing before but not that it's a must have in PVP which other players are using to crush (more than usual) other players who dont have it & or the same level of player skill.

[@jdholbrook33]

Best thing that ever came out of ESO for me. My household loves it and there are 4 of us here. Yes, I miss the 2 bar setup at times and I often play 2 bar but for messing around, taking on content that we used to stay away from.. I have to say it has made the game more enjoyable for all of us here.

[@zapattacks171]

Weird question but I was wondering if at this point werewolf would would be better on a stam Templar that an stam sorc? Could any eso veteran help? Lol

[@Gorexpert]

I play on EU server XBOX. Could they just make the oakensoul not work in pvp or only offer the minor buffs in cyrodil and battlegrounds? I love the one bar build because I get a lot of lag being far from both the EU and NA servers and my biggest (noticeable) lag time is bar swaps.

[@xardas7492]

oakensoul ring is a great asset for new players venturing into dlc vet content...most players also never tried vMA in 2022...this mythic will help them find the courage to start doing end game content...even if i don t use it i still love that casual players can do atleast good dps

[@jdholbrook33]

Us mediocre players actually feel that we can play some of the more interesting content now. Much more fun for me.

[@stephennewell8477]

I’m a long time casual player and I love it for both pve and pvp I just fear pvp will bring the inevitable nerf and ruin it for pve 😞

[@DeadEnd4991]

I have no hate for pvp'rs. But from what I've seen... it's pvp that causes all these items to get nerfed. It's really irritating 😒

[@mikep6222]

Pvpers would have no issues if ZOS bothered to separate sets and abilities. I mean, it wouldn't have been the first time a MMO did that.

[@DeadEnd4991]

@@mikep6222 I feel like ZOS doesn't actually give two shits about its own players.

[@mikep6222]

@@DeadEnd4991 I agree when it comes to long term players. They cater to newer or casual players that they can more easily sway into spending money on the game. Whether its pay to play/use or just cosmetics and mounds. This is why most of pve content is super easy. As for PVP, even for all their talk, its still the red-headed step child.

[@notarealperson]

Since normally it would take casting skills to get those buffs and you are getting them resource free, perhaps they put a cost penalty to all skills if you have it on, wont stop burst but will cripple survivability

[@skitzobass]

I work 2 jobs so haven’t even had time to log in on the new content yet. Was really looking forward to trying this out on my werewolf. Really frustrating that it’s being considered for nerf already…

[@thecommiehunter1149]

How do you get good weapons in this game I'm running around with an axe and everyone around me is just one shooting enemies all over the place

[@jackbauer5003]

I'm not using oakensoul on all builds, just a few like my mag sorc that was basically a 1 bar build anyway because of the pets. My other builds, I have a lot of these buffs built in already and am comfortable with the swap. I think it's probably more impact on pvp so I like the idea of making it only activate on non players.

[@spskeeper2060]

Still trying to find out if it works in no cp no procs cyrodiil?, has anyone tried it to see if it does work there?.

[@MADshadowman]

so here's my view on it. it is definitely a problem on a typical meta build, since they are already so far ahead of everyone else, it just makes it worse, but for people like me that offer content around non meta builds, it allows me to create interesting non meta builds that are still viable and offer an alternative to the oppressive nature of meta builds. and i also like the idea of shrinking down your skills to one bar, cause it forces you to make decisions.

[@jasonchui111]

Best thing ever for pve peeps with high latency. Now they can do vet trails with friends and guildies. Pvp however is you either kill with brokensoul, or be killed with no brokensoul.

[@josephtenke6635]

oh ok i just got my first ring early this morning here is my question if the ring's are all the same why did they put a 15 codex on it ??

[@akjoenewton7382]

You bassicly have helped me go from confused like you mentioned in Earlier vids. To taking this game on seriously. Nice one dude. 👍

[@Zecklacon]

Idk, my magplar w/oakensoul in pvp doesn't outperform 2 bar build @ all. Rune focus + healing staff back bar will demolish 80% of 1 bar builds I've met. Except Dk's spamming 10k whips.

[@Krombopulusryan518]

I’ve been solo holding outpost until help arrives with this ring on my dragon knight but you definitely have to have pvped before I don’t think your casual player will be amazing over night with this ring. I love it though!!

[@roxxiefoxx2884]

I think this video pretty much sums up my thoughts on the ring as well. Pvp was good. Pve was mixed. I wear it doing easier overland content but take it off for anything difficult. I can't replace my 2 bar build damage.

[@shaebardgett9972]

i have disabilities that specifically cause problems with audio and visual processing. i cannot complete most veteran dungeons and i die in most group world boss and events like harrowstorms or volcanic vents. i've never completed any arenas at even the normal level. my brain gets overloaded with information very quickly and basically starts just randomly firing and processing things that aren't even happening. i'll just physically be on the wrong bars, fighting the wrong opponents, or even not fighting opponents! it feels similar to right before having a seizure ("auras" but i only get seizures with cold medicines so far). because of this most of what i do is just exploration, story or just repeatedly doing things i love like finding treasure chests. thanks to massive power creep, i finally beat darkshade caverns 2 veteran with a group just this year, and i've been playing since early access beta. i finally got oakensoul and am waiting to finish levelling up a character to use it with. hopefully finally i can access more content like normal dlc dungeons without dying constantly.

[@ariokosan]

Oakensoul is there to help sales. Once sales dry up it will get nerfed. Watch this space.

[@spskeeper2060]

I don't have it, but out of interest can anyone confirm if this mythic works in no proc no cp cyrodiil?.

[@andrewkarn9255]

I like it, normally on my pure damage pvp builds, my back bar was literally just there to apply all of these buffs and maybe have an extra heal or debuff. This means I don't have to let my guard down just to re-apply all of my buffs. Also it helps classes that are forced to run rally or degeneration just to get major brutality or sorcery.

[@BasileiaRomaionHistory]

any one figure out the new lead source? any time I try and get the chest lead and there's dozens of players at each chest spawn.

[@TEZRA_]

You have to be the one to pick the lock. If someone else picks the lock you have zero chance of the lead

[@jdholbrook33]

I went to Murkmire last night at prime time. Went to Bright-Throat Village where there are two boxes (Vetra-Jat’s house) . One guy ahead of me, he got it about 3 minutes after I showed up then I got it on the first chest after him so less than 10 minutes total time. No fight to see who can open it first since there was only one guy there and I stood back while he did his thing. Search for "Bright-Throat Village Safebox Spawns List" and it's the spot labeled 2 on the map.

[@airv3262]

I mean hardcore players should welcome it tbh, its a change that fosters further max-min to raise the skill ceiling. Let's be honest it was added to be a casual battery, if you don't have casuals playing your game the game dies you need a few aspects in the game that allows them to participate. The problem with making a complex game is that over time players who aren't fully dedicated to it will get discouraged and will find something else to play.

[@alainbloch1627]

I think there is something to say about Oakensoul in that it does limit your versatility of a two-bar build. There is a challenge to maximizing the one-bar build for different types of content. My own challenge right now is using a one-bar build with Oakensoul to solo PvE. I am running a 2h Stamplar (my own personal choice). But because it's a one-bar, I find myself swapping builds when dealing with different types of content a lot more than with a two-bar build.

[@SimPoolman]

Can’t wait to try this on my Stam sorc werewolf build🤣

[@fede5679]

i dont understand the complaints, pvp was already broken, theres no way to fix it. sets like dark convergence and plague breaker are still op, so if this mythic gives more choices to pick from fine by me.

[@Juan_Dominguez]

Personally I love it, it's a nice change and I can't stand the bar swap lag that happens in pve or pvp

[@TootsyBootsy]

While bar swapping isn't something that has been a problem for me to achieve, I have always hated pocket weapons and this ring took that away for me while giving my rotation a buff to not feel like i just nerfed myself. I love the RP feeling that comes from feeling like my character specialized in one weapon with the buffs really making it feel that way.

[@pimpster122]

I’m still waiting for High Isle to become available through ESO plus on console June 20th. I’m rocking imperial, magblade, stage 4 vamp, deadly strikes. Either Stygians or Pariah, and right now markyn ring. I’m excited to see the dots, exhilarating drain and soul assault with Oakensoul.

[@whackronomicon]

A crit build's dream. Running this with Pillar of Nirn and Order's Wrath on my Stamblade. Still use my two-bar setup with Pale Order for better heals but Oakensoul let's you just roll through most (not all WBs tho) overland content.

[@williamp.8084]

It's a money grab. Whenever a new chapter comes out it's the same thing. A very OP item or set that you can only get if you buy the DLC, but gets patched just in time for the next DLC.

[@DarkSorc7]

Been testing on my sorc and Templar. Both builds crack 50k on base game dummy, and very easy to play. The hybrid sorc seems to have better sustain. As a solo/pugger oakeysole is exlnt. Only took 144 safe Boxes in murkmire. Only got to pick 3. I think magplar may be the bis for it. Cheers

[@derpfaceuwu6206]

With arthritis in my hands I can't wait to get it. I'm not an eso plus sub yet and don't have alot of the dlcs so I can't even access murkmire unfortunately. Plus my Magsorc would be bomb with your one bar build. I've actually been using it without oakensoul still works wonders.

[@chynnapierce2190]

I finally got back into ESO after a few years and it has changed alot. Between relearning the game I decided to look into OP builds and found out about the OakenSoul ring. Been grinding like crazy to get it but my build is nearly complete and excited to finally solo veteran dungeons!

[@wowomah6194]

THANK GOD someone else said it lol, I've been so confused at why I'm getting railed in PVP, I haven't grinded for Oakensoul (Brokensoul) yet but I was wondering how in the hell I was getting 1 shot over and over and over by Templars or Nightblades who just leap on me, hit me once and then I'm gone. Very frustrating to play against.

[@aguile]

I think the worst of oakensoul is that it limits class design. From now on everything the devs would overhaul a skill or class identity or even create a new one, they would need to keep in mind the oakensoul every time so that new strategy they create, wouldn't be unbalanced because of this ring.

[@rickymartinez8054]

I agree, but also I think its worth having the Okensoul ring as it is in the game. As an endgame PvPr and PvEr and with discussion with others alike about the capabilities of this ring. Its very strong, but no stronger that what already exist and it provides a more ease of play for many people. For instance, hardcore groups of PvPrs and PvErs already get literally all the buffs or more (depending in content, but for the most part) While keeping dual bars. Difference, it requires an assembled team of players to accomplish this (more common than what one would think). The game balance is already either overly nerfed or strong, theres no in between. just look at all the old mythics and even older overland items and craftable sets, only crums of the same bread are still viable. Additionally, something to take account to how unbalanced the game is, top players use on top of strong builds, animation cancelling. Very strong, very hard thing to master where even I thought it was some sort of cheat, but its really an unintended feature.

[@acted7341]

It raised the floor, it didn't raise the roof.

[@jaynrocky13]

I think it's a great idea for people who struggle with managing resources. My trial toons will always be a 2 bar build but I think this is great on a Templar for solo play. Especially world bosses and solo dungeons.

[@jerrymcdaniel6643]

Necro skills should stack with the ring lol I haven't gotten it yet but like you said it might not be for everyone just because of the game play style. Me personally have been wanting to do a build that cut out as much buffing as possible so I can streamline my game play. So this ring looks fantastic to me lol but I really don't know how they would toon this. You'll either get defensive buffs or offensive and you would just fill in the gaps after. It still takes some build around. And my tank should be fine in pvp

[@xnbk-yotiex5247]

I would buy this chapter in a heartbeat just for this mythic if I didn’t think Zos is going to nerf this into the ground.

[@griivy1754]

It will be nerfed to shit. Just a matter of time. Safe the money

[@JWill051995]

Was quick to take it into pvp with some theory crafted builds that i had came up with. Quickly realized that the ring does not compare to a full end game pvp set up. I can pop ball groups with one of my normal builds. The sustain issues that are caused by going mostly damage on the one bar ring are the same issues you'd have if you switched to a more sustain set up, yes you'd have more survivability. However it just does not compare to a real end game pvp build. However it is very nice in pve. Hope this helps any higher end pvpers who had some animosity about getting it.

[@SirBanana1992]

I personally enjoy the oakensoul ring for casually going through fast paced content, turning lazy mode into lazier mode. I've used it in overland with gryphon's ferocity and adept rider to run around at insane speeds if I'm going to go through a public dungeon/delve where I can't bring out my mount and I'll still clear enemies at the same speed because of what the oakensoul ring does to compensate the sets I'm using. I also use it in solo-duo normal dungeon grinds when I just want to fill my stickerbook or get the quick transmute crystals from a random. Heck because of all the defensive buffs it works out when I use it to tank on a 2 hander by using inner rage as a taunt while using other sources of breach and if the specific content is too intensive for that I can pull out my armorer and turn myself into a real tank on the fly. TL;DR - I like blitzing easy content with an even more braindead setup.

[@nickblood7080]

I think this is good. I’ve never been able to keep up dps wise since i lost guilds even then I fell behind when it got to the point where o could not do 50k damage without practicing with a coach and shit

[@williaml7390]

I used your one bar magplar with this and literally got "spirit slayer" on my first ever vet vateshran attempt. It might be a little overtuned but I hope it isn't changed lol

[@Pacasay]

I need to go get mine

[@crystallinecrow3365]

i am disabled and when i heard about oakensoul i heard "accessibility." my hands just don't work right. try as i might there's some content i can never do. with oakensoul, i might be able to actually do maybe 20 percent of that content i couldn't access before. i love you so much for immediately realizing that we (disabled folks) were a group that would benefit from this item. so many folks never even remember we exist let alone acknowledge that we face many limitations, even in our fun. thanks for being awesome, deltia.

[@TheAlphaOmegaX3]

Make it either weaker while in pvp or not work at all. In pve it's balanced. Majority of pve players can't even hit 30k dps consistently as is. So just a pvp focused adjustment is needed. They should have separated the two modes years ago anyways. Would make balancing a non issue compared to the ridiculousness it is now.

[@andrewkarn9255]

It's fine In pvp, healing and defense have been way over powered forever now. Yay for people dying again!

[@Ophis1984]

not used the ring yet but pvp is way more fun since the update went live, its brought variety back into the game, no longer is it just 50 magdk's running around, now theres all sorts of builds, been getting some fun challenging fights.

[@daledelatte9607]

I can't remember anything better from any update. I hope they add more buffs to it, or maybe some additional stats. So much simpler than trying to buff in high lag situations

[@twodogsplaying796]

I can now play my mag sorcerer with way less lag and bar swapping problems. Thank you oakensoul!

[@rikmang]

Most veteran content is solo friendly too. With this set you can just farm vet stuff solo faster I like cause I don't like grouping much

[@melt3r304]

I think it’s long overdue. I have several friends that just dont have the time to put into the game that can contribute now with a low skill level. Also with console the lag is atrocious and almost unplayable at times so to try to bar swap to a needed ability that needs to happens within seconds that you don’t have to worry about now is just something that needed to happen with a platform if it can’t keep up with the demand of the game. Also brought me back after putting four years into the game and breaking for two.

[@drewwatson6160]

simple have the mythic locked out and restricted in PvP. Most mythics have some sort of draw back. But Oakensoul doesnt. i dont see the loss of the second skill/weapon bar as a negative enough.

[@nib6383]

That's a cheap fix, they should instead figure out a proper nerf for the pvp aspect.

[@Tommy_The_Gun]

What Oakensoul did is it "exposed" lack of skill/ability balance in ESO &. Basically, if an ability has certain power level, - Oakensoul multiplied that by 2. Some classes with different skills, simply synergies better with this ring. DK for example, with Heroism buff can potentially have almost 100% uptime on Corrosive ulti. This ulti makes them hard to kill, but on top of that, they have "maximum" penetration, as this ulti also ignores the armour for direct damage skills. Is ignoring armour permanently fair & balanced ? Well... I guess not. Same with NB that can almost literately spam incap. Is Incap OP ? I guess not, but "spamming" it ? I guess it is OP. The irony is that ZOS listened to the feedback of the community. ESO community wanted Oakensoul to be useless for WW. And it happened. The only buff that is more or less relevant for WW is Protection, as they already have others. But the issue is that WW is already balanced around 1 bar. So on top of strong passives - you also have serious drawbacks (too long to point them out here). But, other classes, that don't have WW passives and were never suppose to get them as permanent buffs - can now have them. Oakensoul is basically a "Werewolf inside a mythic". It provides same (and often stronger) buffs that WW has as passives. The difference is that you stil have access to all your other passives, and can use any skill & ulti you want. None of those skills were ever designed with that many strong buffs running permanently in the background. Same thing would have happened long time ago, if for example, Werewolf was not limited to just WW skills. Oakensoul basically shows, what would have happened If you could use any ability you want in WW form. It is madness, and I am actually avoiding PvP right now lol. Note: I have it (the ring), but I am not using it. I wait till it gets nerfed, so I would know what Am I standing on, and then I can think of a build.

[@ethanfaiello2373]

WW is op af with Oakensoul lol. In pvp no one uses the berserk buff morph for the heal. Meaning the get minor buff tri stat sustain which is amazing for them, major Heroism and protection making White WW completely pointless. And Major Courage plus major force.

[@Mariosimal]

Personally? I love it, im a veteran in ESO since launch, but im an average player, even I could be a casual for many, I havent completed the most difficult content in ESO ever, never been very skilled with spell weaving so I cannot put the dps for vet trials or vet arenas, so this kind of items really make the difference for me, they give me the opportunity of having certain achievements or gear that I wasn't able to obtain otherwise.

[@ace24680]

have not gotten it yet but tbh I am feeling my age simple animation cancels are beyond me and the micro managing of buffs is annoying me reason why I had loved the always on buff sets so I am hoping this will let me fall in love with the game all over and give me time to master animation cancelling weaving :D

[@ryanmitchell1265]

Removing just major protection would probably be enough tbf

[@annieainegoolie1749]

Not nearly as bad as the hype said, and it’s definitely made werewolf more viable, and generated dozens of new builds. But like, Dark Convergence is still a more powerful set, and Plaguebreak is still a more restrictive force on gameplay.

[@gfrinc.gamingguitar6667]

I agree with everything you said. I just feel like as an average player I'm stuck to running cals on my oaken nb. This is the only way I seem to have been enjoying this new patch. Ever since this new patch it seems that it has been very difficult to kite on my stamsorc and get kills I have been getting burned down easily by these oaken ball groups its very annoying or maybe its just me idk.

[@Anonymoose0523]

like most things in eso its impossible to balance for both sides of the game. So ive been saying for years that they need to change how sets work based on which instance youre in. because currently oakensoul is perfectly fine for pve and too much for pvp so nerf it when youre in a pvp instance and leave it alone in pve based instances. more work? yes. but also the only way to truly have "balance" in this game.

[@Suckko]

oakensoul is absolutely not fine in pve, it grants you more buffs than if you were to run 2 bars and not to mention a permanent uptime. The ring either needs MAJOR changes or removed completely.

[@mattbrown5511]

I come under the heading of the physical disability category. When I finally get the Oakensoul Ring, it'll help me a ton.

[@shadowdefiant8728]

I like Oakensoul for my Magcro. But not on my Stamplar, I prefer Sea Serpent.

[@spaceghost0098]

It's both good and bad. Anyone who still likes to improve their skills use doesn't have to use it but anyone who plays solo but wants to complete dungeon content who struggles with skill combos can. It has me wondering if there's a downside to PVE group content. If someone wants to group up for trials, will they be kicked for someone who does have it? Or does the Oakensoul mythic "bring the floor up" for ppl who struggle so they won't get kicked any more? My question to you, Delita, since you're head is completely in the game, how well does it work for people who wear it and still use two bars? Without the Oakensoul mythic, a player has to dedicate skill slots for those majors and minors and have "passive" slots. Is that the problem you're talking about for PVP? People using two bars can load up on damaging slots and pile them all on an opponent? It's gotta be tough on those devs to come up with an item to help some players without making it a nightmare for others. (This could've been a problem with Ring of the Pale Order, except devs nerfed it for group content.)

[@SoberRussian]

I've been playing this game on and off for years at this point. One of the main reasons why I always end up quitting is I just can't get the hang of the bar switching and rotations, so having something like this is a straight up Godsend.

[@WilliamBowlin]

Late to this conversation, but just started playing ESO in Sept 2022, enjoying support roles (Healer / Tank) and don't even have a L50 DPS toon at this point. I'm interested in some gear that is only offered as PvP drops, but a PvE Healer that is decently (not even greatly) equipped jumping into a Random Group Battleground is just stupid - I die almost instantly in any game mode, can't get into a rhythm, and spend over half the match waiting to respawn and being a liability to my team - even though my match score is on par with the top half of players in a match. Greatly interested in seeing if an Oakensoul PvP build for an off Meta Templar can occasionally compete, but have a long way to get through Mara's Balm or Rallying Cry to get there on random unlocks *if* I am not in last place. Add to that I'm personally not even highly interested in PvP and you get a wretched experience for new players. I wish there were better ways to at least start the journey.

[@Mystra]

The best thing. If PvPers are mad that has nothing to do with PvE. Just ban the ring if you're under battle spirit. Simple.