*IS OLDER BETTER?!* Willy Wonka & the Chocolate Factory (1971) Reaction: FIRST TIME WATCHING

[@tasbard8545]

My headcannon as to how the fake Slugworth knew where to find each child is a huge clue that he worked for Wonka. Wonka would send out a single ticket at a time. They, being the supplier, would know what store the ticket would end up in. Fake Sluggy would travel to the area and just wait for someone to find it.

[@Jsspres]

Gene Wilder only agreed to play Willy Wonka on one condition. He walks out with a cane , gets it stuck, and does a somersault. That way, no one would know if he was lying or telling the truth.

[@bribro6042]

I just saw him talking about that in an interview. So cool!

[@michaeljorgensen4873]

What's really cool is when they go into the chocolate room, none of the kids had seen the set so that was their genuine reaction

[@dwgale01]

None of the adults either, except for Gene Wilder of course.

[@eddi3th3h3ad]

That's crazy. Didn't know that. I also heard the cast didn't like the chocolate river because it smelled bad

[@gnericgnome4214]

the door combination... 99... 44... 100... back then Dove soap was advertised as being 99 and 44/100ths pure.

[@rafaelrosario5331]

The opening credits sequence for the 1971 film Willy Wonka & the Chocolate Factory was filmed at a real Tobler chocolate factory in Switzerland.

[@nathancruz9172]

Good to know.

[@dlarge6502]

Now I want a toblerone

[@TorgoLives]

A lot of misinformation in the comments here. The title of the movie was changed from "charlie..." to "Willy Wonka..." to take advantage of the release of Wonka candies that that came at about that same time. It was NOT because of Roald Dahl not liking the movie. I was 9 when this movie came out and saw it at the drive-in with my parents 1 week after our teacher read the book us. Later in the year Wonka candies were available to buy. I even remember finding a golden ticket in one of the chocolate bars (although it was actually a coupon for a free bar)! As a child, I loved the songs and totally got the moral lessons implied. The Depp version was indeed closer to the book, however, it took its share of liberties with the story as well. People have generally liked this original version better because it had a lot more heart and Wonka was far more likable.

[@tomyoung9049]

The Wonka chocolate bar was supposed to be released at the release of the movie. They scheduled the movie, but a last minute issue with the chocolate recipe ruined the planned release.

[@thomasbradley4505]

They also had a candy making kit that had chocolate molds in The shape of things in the movie. I had one and used it for years and years.

[@DrummerXero626]

I heard it was because during the 70's America was at war with Vietnam & they would call the Vietnamese "Charlie" & they didn't want Americans thinking it was about a Vietnamese person & a candy factory. They just used the candy release as an excuse later on. But let's be honest kids would buy new candy no matter what it's called. Hell I buy new flavor chips just because it's a new flavor but a brand new candy company, who wouldn't wanna try it? So I believe the Vietnamese story is more believable.

[@SG-js2qn]

@@DrummerXero626 Uh, no. lol And yes, I was there and I bought the candy.

[@DrummerXero626]

@@SG-js2qn I never said the candy didn't exist. I'm saying that with that foreshadowing of wanting to make money by releasing candy really helped them sell the cover of changing the title.

[@Jedicake]

This one chews the newer one and spits it out. Gene Wilder absolutely kills it in this role

[@jennaraurusrex]

Yeah, it really does, through the years watching the Johnny Depp one here and there - I finally felt, I really don't like it, haha (even though I do like Johnny Depp roles) 🙀

[@SDfan2002]

Johnny Depp completely falls into character to a point where I can’t even tell it’s Johnny Depp. Gene Wilder’s great in the role but Johnny takes it to the next level.

[@jennaraurusrex]

@@SDfan2002 I can agree in that. But, it's too Hollywood in some way, too much in a cheap way - after watching it so many times. I hate to say it.

[@SDfan2002]

@@jennaraurusrex A cheap way? They literally made the chocolate waterfall out of ACTUAL CHOCOLATE. The whole thing was an actual SET. Not to mention they actually used miniature models to build the whole town.

[@jennaraurusrex]

@@SDfan2002 I don't know - I'm not THAT impressed, beacause of a chocolate fountain - to save the movie for me :/

[@jennaraurusrex]

'Pure imagination' will always be the most magical song 💜✨ I also LOVE Gene Wilder's intense eyes - you gotta love the 'crazy' and happiness he feels when the children meet their selfish fates, haha 😁

[@AngelusBrady]

The scene near the end with Wonka yelling at Grandpa Joe and Charlie, Peter Ostrum's reactions were real. It was said that nobody told him that Gene Wilder was going to be mad in the scene and that in previous takes Gene played Wonka as more disappointed than mad. Both Peter and Gene grew close during filming and he wanted to tell Peter of the change in Wonka's attitude so Peter wouldn't think that they stopped being friends. Before he deleted his Twitter account, when Gene Wilder passed away Peter changed his Twitter bio to say that he inherited a chocolate factory. Denise Nickerson who played Violet was put in a giant styrofoam ball for the Violet blueberry scenes. It took 40 minutes to get into and she wasn't able to attend daily lunches. They had to regularly roll her around to keep her blood flowing to her arms normally. Some of the blueberry makeup was absorbed into her skin during filming and after the movie was finished and she went back to school, the makeup started oozing back out of her pores in the middle of class. She has since passed away after suffering from a severe stroke in 2018 and accidentally overdosing on medication a year later.

[@colleenmarin8907]

"Cheer up Charlie" is called "the popcorn song" in my family, because we'd get up to make popcorn during the song, knowing we'd be missing the dull part of the movie

[@oliverbrownlow5615]

"Cheer Up, Charlie" was my first favorite song from *Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory* (1971) when I saw it as a child on its initial release.

[@patrickmcevoy5080]

I agree. That's the worst song and scene in the film. I'd even say it's otherwise perfect.

[@kimtalley4496]

I like that the oompa loompas are played by various little people, not just one person made to look like many.

[@treetopjones737]

Which is what they did for the Depp movie.

[@kimtalley4496]

@treetopjones737 they took 1 person and made it look like many loompas. None looked Individual, how boring.

[@jen6879]

They also helped choreograph their own dance routines as what had originally been planned wasn’t manageable for little people.

[@UntitledInvader]

@@kimtalley4496 I mean it was written in the book that each Oompa Loompas looks exactly the same

[@kimtalley4496]

@@UntitledInvader ok

[@phtevenj]

the WIlly Wonka entrance was actually Gene Wilders idea.... it was so you would never know when hes being truthful and when hes not

[@danyk426]

I love when reactors watch classic or older films!

[@ToniLaizure]

I like the Tim Burton/Johnny Depp version well enough...but there is absolutely no question which is the superior version, at least in my mind. This is a classic for a reason. Gene Wilder IS Willy Wonka, absolutely a dynamite performance. Cheers!!!😁

[@pollynicklas5220]

Funny how Augustus Gloop was supposed to be so overweight (he was), but compared to kids today he isn't all that heavy! Back then most kids were normal weight - I was young and can confirm this! Oh yeah - fun fact, the boy who played Charlie never had a role in another movie. This was his only acting role!

[@bighuge1060]

I absolutely LOVE this movie. Two more children's movie classics (or "staples") are Chitty Chitty Bang Bang and the first Doctor Dolittle; both musicals.

[@oliverbrownlow5615]

Both great movies. The songs in *Doctor Dolittle* (1967), including the Oscar-winning "Talk to the Animals," are by Leslie Bricusse, who also co-authored the songs from *Willy Wonka,* while Bricusse's *Wonka* songwriting partner Anthony Newley plays a major role on screen in *Dolittle.* *Chitty Chitty Bang Bang* (1968), on the other hand, has a screenplay by Roald Dahl, the author of the book.*Charlie and the Chocolate Factory,* and the only credited screenwriter on *Willy Wonka.*

[@TheEileen]

I adore Chitty Chitty Bang Bang and that would be a movie to react to! Another one where you can see in other movies what they took (homage no doubt) from the original

[@chrispittman8854]

The "Candy Room" ALONE blows away the newer version.

[@dicktrickle741]

I like this one better, but don't hate the newer one. I liked the idea of giving a backstory to Willy Wonka and the Oompa Lumpa in the new one.

[@truthseeker9249]

Oh yeah. Everything about this movie blows the new one outta the water.

[@SDfan2002]

Lmfao no it doesn’t. Did you see what the candy room LOOKS like in the Depp version? MUCH better.

[@SDfan2002]

@@truthseeker9249 First of all, it’s not “the new one” anymore. It’s almost 20 years old. Second of all, Depp’s version is simply better.

[@chrispittman8854]

@@SDfan2002 Ah... the contrarian broadcasting from mom's basement... Enjoy your CGI/Headset world... "MA!!! MEATLOAF!!!"

[@dow311]

The song the Candy Man, was also sung by Sammy Davis Jr.

[@oliverbrownlow5615]

Sammy Davis, Jr.'s 1972 recording of "The Candy Man" became his only #1 hit.

[@nicholasbyrne6485]

Sammy Davis Jr was the original choice for the role of the candy shop owner.

[@treetopjones737]

"Wonka was a really cool cat, man." - Sammy ( not an actual quote )

[@alexbeardsley751]

the tunnel voyage proves that older is better.

[@SDfan2002]

Dolls burning on stage >>>

[@SutraRein-xy4qr]

Oh god yeah!

[@Thomas-rw9nt]

"What is this? A freak-out!?" --Violet. LOL

[@Aurochhunter]

The computer scene proved that older is better even before they got to the factory.

[@JustJustin.]

Why is everyone obsessing over which movie is better? They're both good in their own way, it's just a matter of taste! Bright and whimsical with a hint of darkness OR Dark and twisted with a hint of whimsy

[@askme2469]

The boat only had enough seats for those remaining. He knew Augustus was a goner

[@MrTech226]

Nick Charlie played by then kid actor named Peter Ostrum. Willy Wonka was his and only movie. Even though, studios offered Peter 5 movies deal. He declined the offer. Because Peter wanted to be a kid. Many years later, Peter went into a different occupation as Veterinarian in New York.

[@MrTech226]

Nick Julie Dawn Cole aka Veruca Salt is totally opposite of Veruca's meanest.

[@ploppill34]

He is a vet in Vermont

[@MrTech226]

@ploppill34 I thought that Peter had a practice in western New York for years

[@jtoland2333]

It was a good decision. You are only a child once.

[@martinmayhew145]

​@jtoland2333 Probably didn't want to go down that path as a child actor when jobs run out. Mark Lester did the same thing

[@RyneMurray23]

I just noticed this, but the scarf that his grandmothers knitted for him is to go with his sweater. It is a little more worn down and probably his gift from the previous year..

[@StuartistStudio1964]

If you haven't seen it yet, I recommend "Chitty Chitty Bang Bang."

[@Beltzer0072]

I have watched and loved this film for 30 years now since I was a kid and no matter how many times I see it, it gets better and better each and every time. It truly is one of the absolute greatest films of all time and Gene will always be the absolute legend he was in this life.

[@lmr1922]

Old Movie Suggestions: Arsenic and Old Lace. Bringing Up Baby. Gaslight (1944. This is a suspense drama). You two enjoy laughing so you will most likely like the first two mentioned.

[@sandrasullivan7247]

Arsenic and Old Lace is the absolute best.

[@thomasbradley4505]

No one seems to have reacted to Gaslight, and it is a great movie with some good twists. And you can’t go wrong with anything Ingrid Bergman is in

[@Kelfsword16]

Ooh! Good suggestions!

[@lmr1922]

Desk Set is another that I like, but is hardly known.

[@onlygodcanjudgeme3949]

Gaslight is very good. Also like The Man in the Iron Mask.

[@SG-js2qn]

"I must down to the seas again, to the lonely sea and the sky, And all I ask is a tall ship and a star to steer her by, And the wheel's kick and the wind's song and the white sail's shaking, And a grey mist on the sea's face, and a grey dawn breaking." - John Masefield, Sea-Fever

[@JR05-1]

this is the first time i ever noticed that wonka mimics violet saying everlasting gobstoppers. 27:53

[@jerodast]

Gene Wilder's nonstop gleeful sarcasm at the kids is such a priceless element in this haha.

[@embraceyourweirdness70]

The tunnel scene was ad-libbed by Gene Wilder. The others in the boat were genuinely freaking out with his monologue...

[@beappleby]

Those lines are straight from the scene in the book.

[@juliewagner3023]

Love these older movie reactions! Please keep them coming! I highly recommend: - Roman Holiday - The Thin Man - Top Hat - The Philadelphia Story - The Shop Around the Corner - You Can’t Take It With You And I could definitely keep going! So many incredible classics!

[@Kelfsword16]

Roman Holiday is amazing!

[@juliewagner3023]

@@Kelfsword16 Genuinely in my Top 10 favorite movies of all time 🥰🥰🥰

[@amandadorner]

Roman Holiday is a great idea! One of my favorites❤

[@rnw2739]

The child actors in this film are superb, especially compared to the embarrassing remake. You are spot on with your claim about David Battley (Mr. Turkentine) being the best side character in the film as Charlie's ridiculous teacher, hes hilarious!

[@dannyjorde2677]

The child actors are actually the worst part of the original movie, along with grandpa Joe. They behave like cartoons. All the actors in Tim Burton's version are far superior, especially the kids. And Tim Burton's version is not a remake, buddy.

[@rnw2739]

@dannyjorde2677 Excuse me 'buddy', the child actors in the original are infinitely superior, particularly Julie Dawn Cole as Violet. You clearly can't tell a good actor from a bad one so I'd leave off of getting into ant arguments concerning quality acting. I'm sure you adore Johnny Depps cringe inducing performance as Wonka, where he is doing a Michael Jackson impression - utter crap! Furthermore, it IS a remake pal, both films coming from Roald Dahl's book . You don't know what you're on about so pipe down.

[@dannyjorde2677]

@@rnw2739 Hahahaha I love to see you cry over the facts I stated. Keep it going 😂

[@musicstar693]

This is the original film and it was filmed in Munich Germany. Gene wilder #1 ever Rest in peace Gene wilder the best Willy Wonka ever

[@tommiller4895]

Practical sets and minitures beat CGI. Charlie gave up acting and is now a large animal Veterinarian in Upstate NY. I knew Denise Nickerson who played Violet. She received a concussion when the Oompa Loompas accidently banged her head into the door frame as they were rolling her out of the room. Everyone in the cast and crew loved Julie Dawn Coe who played Veruka. In real life she was so nice a complete opposite of her character. She grew up to be a beautiful woman who is a great Singer. This movie has more "heart" than the Tim Burton/Johnny Depp version (which was much darker).

[@JustJustin.]

The Tim Burton version has heart, too, just a different kind of heart.

[@treetopjones737]

Denise played a character ( Amy ) on Dark Shadows tv show.

[@kathyastrom1315]

Jack Albertson, who played Grandpa Joe, was probably most famous for being The Man in the tv series Chico and the Man. But, he can be seen in another classic film, the 1946 Miracle on 34th Street, where he plays a postal worker.

[@pollynicklas5220]

And also The Poseidon Adventure!

[@paulsuchy6210]

Jack Albertson won an Oscar for his performance in The Subject Was Roses.

[@KaelKnight]

Gene said he wouldn't do the movie unless he could do the cane and fall scene because after that you never know if he's series or just messing with you

[@kathyastrom1315]

I love the stories of all of the unsuccessful attempts to get a ticket, especially the woman whose husband is kidnapped for her case of Wonka bars. At the time the film came out, there was a lot of kidnapping of rich people cases making the papers.

[@j.woodbury412]

"We're talking about your husband's life for you Wonka bars!" "Can I think about it?" That part cracks me up every time.

[@DesertHomesteader]

I think Gene Wilder was more charming in this than Johnny Depp could ever hope to be. The 2005 film, as you said, is darker and just not as imaginative and wonderous as the 1971 version. And the scene when Charlie finds the golden ticket hits me in the gut every time. It is the first movie I ever shed a tear for and it still gets me.

[@truthseeker9249]

Well let's not say Johnny Depp isn't charming because he is. He's charming as hell. But he's Jack Sparrow. Not Willy Wonka. Just like Timothee Chalamet is not Willy Wonka and never will be. Gene Wilder is the one and only Willy Wonka which is why kids only ever saw him as such. And every time he would come across a kid calling out to him as Willy Wonka he would play along because he loved kids and wanted them to have innocence and imagination.

[@tche2844]

@truthseeker9249 Nah. Depp is not charming.

[@SDfan2002]

Tim Burton’s version has much more imagination than this one.

[@truthseeker9249]

@@SDfan2002 the hell it does. It's dark and dreary and does not stimulate a child's sense of wonder at all.

[@SDfan2002]

@@truthseeker9249 Bullshit. It’s only dark and dreary in the outside world, but once they get INSIDE the factory it’s crazy, wacky, freaky and all kinds of imaginative. There’s even a scene where there’s a hospital for burned puppets. That sounds straight out of a child’s imagination. Not to mention, some children have twisted minds and they often end up being the most imaginative children. The factory in Tim Burton’s version feels like an endless WORLD. There’s even a FUDGE MOUNTAIN in the movie.

[@skepticcritic4995]

The chocolate river was water mixed with melted chocolate ,cream and leftover coffee the production staff used to dispose of. Actor Micheal Bollner (Augustus Gloop) as well as the other actors could not take the stench of the river.. nor Bollner actually swimming in it

[@strawberrysoulforever8336]

One of the advantages of the 2005 movie is that they could make the chocolate river actually look edible. I think it is actually just chocolate, especially as it reacts to Augustus like chocolate and clings to him, while this river reacts like brown water.

[@wrorchestra1]

"All I ask is a tall ship" is from the poem "Sea Fever" by John Masefield. It's also misquoted in the movie as "a star to sail her by", when it should read "to steer her by".

[@oliverbrownlow5615]

John Masefield, for those who don't know, was Poet Laureate of the United Kingdom from 1930 until his death in 1967.

[@kelaarin]

"Then how come you don't know 'Row, Row, Row your Boat'?"

[@wrorchestra1]

@@kelaarin the reason I know the poem!

[@markcall1982]

And just like that grandpa Jo found his legs. LOL where was that ticket 20 years before ?

[@ejonesjones23]

You need to watch young frankenstein and blazing saddles

[@thomasbradley4505]

And high anxiety, which always gets overlooked when talking about Mel Brooks movies. It’s a great tribute to Hitchcock movies

[@jtoland2333]

Agreed! Mel Brooks is the best! Try History of the World Pt. I

[@needles1987]

The other 3 grandparents were German in real life. That's why Grandma Josephine had very few lines and Grandpa George and Grandma Georgina didn't speak at all.

[@AngelusBrady]

Grandma Josephine's actress did a pretty good job hiding her German accent I felt. A few occasional slip ups but generally pretty good. However, both Grandpa George and Grandma Georgina did speak, but their lines were significantly less. Grandpa George's only line was to wish Charlie a happy birthday. Grandma Georgina had the extra line of "Who's going to tell him?" when the news first announced the fraud who found the golden ticket.

[@needles1987]

@@AngelusBrady I only heard a German accent from Grandma Josephine. Especially when she said "I made the end pieces with the little tassels."

[@AngelusBrady]

@@needles1987 I think you can hear another one where Grandma Josephine says that the whole ticket finding thing was ridiculous. She couldn't pronounce "thing" very well.

[@needles1987]

You should watch the 1961 version of the Parent Trap.

[@shirw]

They used "Willy Wonka" as the title because it was advertising the start of the candy company. Also, I saw this play last summer and it was so good!!

[@grifirnyc]

My grandmother took me to see this in the theater when it first came out, and I was about 5 years old. When Augustus Gloop got sucked up from the chocolate river, I started screaming so much. She had to take me out of the theater and we went to get ice cream because I was so terrified. And I for one love the reactions of these older movies, even going back further would be great.

[@oliverbrownlow5615]

I hope when you had the ice cream, you saved some room for later.

[@jeffreydavid6794]

We love the older movies. "BEN HUR"!!! Is a Must! Please react to it.

[@BrianD0313]

I think it's my understanding that each of the children are supposed to represent on of the Seven Sins. One thing I don't understand is why is the first candy purchased for Charlie NOT a Wonka Bar? I thought the Golden Ticket could only be in Wonka Bars? I wonder what people would think of the two movies if this one were the remake and steered away from the original book while the Depp movie stayed more faithful to the original story?

[@jameseyman9078]

My wife works at a convenience store from early 1900s. It has a rolling ladder. Its in front of the wall of alcohol behind the counter

[@NeetkaAbru]

rolling ladders were common in libraries, to give access to the books on the tall bookcases.

[@biguy617]

The Witches is another great Ronald Dahl movie. Angelica Houston is a scarier Witch than Margret Hamilton was in the Wizard of Oz.

[@thomasbradley4505]

Also James and the Giant Peach (although I’m partial to it because it was one of my favorite books growing up up)

[@rnw2739]

*Roald Dahl

[@robertshields4160]

I read somewhere that Roald Dahl worked in a chocolate factory. The process of making candy was a closely guarded secret and each candy maker would use spies to try and get an advantage over other candy makers. Of course this inspired the character Slugworth.

[@JustJustin.]

Well, in the book, there were other chocolatiers, the same ones from the new Chalamet movie. They didn't have a major role in the plot, they were just the people who sent in spies, forcing Wonka to shut down the factory.

[@lazaruslong8092]

Definitely the best of them. Gene Wilder is great!

[@WilliamLucas-hy8mx]

And beautiful as hull

[@dannyjorde2677]

The new version is better

[@John_Locke_108]

There's no comparing Gene and Depp. This is a masterclass performance. So much heart and soul. Depp was just collecting a paycheck.

[@Rebecca-mv5yj]

Incorrect. They're two different versions. Gene played his Willy Wonka, and Johnny Depp played HIS Willy Wonka. nothing to do about the money. Both versions were good in their ~~~INDIVIDUAL~~~ ways.

[@theprousteffect9717]

The ultimate movie about the worthy person being rewarded, and how life should work.

[@gregorygant4242]

Funny how it actually is upsidedown and life works the other way in reality ! Go figure !

[@kathyastrom1315]

I like that iconic family films like this one and Wizard of Oz have been honored by having kick-ass rock bands named after elements in them, specifically the groups Veruca Salt and Surrender Dorothy.

[@lirpa2300]

Okay, I gotta ask: How was Grandpa Joe getting these Wonka bars for Charlie earlier in the movie? I assume it was the mother getting the bars for Grandpa Joe. Wasn't he supposed to be bedridden for 20 years, unless he was lying the whole time pretending to be bedridden so he didn't have to work and secretly getting out the bed while the mother was at work? I still find it suspicious how quickly he was able to get out the bed when Charlie invited him as his plus 1 into the factory. Then he caused Charlie to break the rules by drinking the Fizzy lifting drink and then had the nerve to be mad at Wonka for calling them out on it and told Charlie to go ahead and give the everlasting gobbstopper to Sluggsworth. There should have been an Oompa Loompa song for Grandpa Joe. Grandpa Joe is just as trifling as Agustus, Violet, Mike and Veruca in this movie.

[@williamafton4427]

The actress playing Veruca does an awesome job, and of course she's lovely in real life. She also had a crush on the boy who played Charlie at the time, too.

[@pmbramucci1056]

Just saw a clip for "The Fugitive" with Harrison Ford and Tommy Lee Jones. If you haven't already seen it, you should!

[@answ7211]

Gooood suggestion!

[@j0hnf_uk]

'Chitty Chitty Bang Bang', is another great film from the same period.

[@elvendream677]

I think you should watch the classic Charade with two of the great actors of the time Audrey Hepburn and Cary Grant. I really think you would enjoy it.

[@lazaruslong8092]

For great older movies, highly suggest Arsenic And Old Lace. For an "older" movie with Gene Wilder, suggest The Producers.

[@davidstone9624]

Is the older better?! I can't imagine anyone seeing both and preferring the newer one.

[@SussexSauvignonRedVino]

22:32. That scene was filmed on October 26, 1970. The girl who played Veruca Salt turned thirteen on that day. :)

[@mariacavanaugh1010]

I love that you're sharing these movies with Quynh...😎 Roald Dahl wrote Chitty Chitty Bang Bang which was made into a movie too (Dick Van Dyke); he was also friends with Ian Fleming of 007 fame ...how about The Spy Who Loved Me (roger Moore). Also, Niagara (Marilyn Monroe.

[@mumoftwoterrors]

You should watch Oliver from 1968, one of the greatest musicals of all time

[@bigdream_dreambig]

1:14 Here are the films from before 1990 that I typically recommend but don't see in your archives: Mr. Smith Goes to Washington (1939)

[@johnnytheyoungmaestro]

I can say confidently that this is the best version of the story. Gene nailed it so well, adding his own natural creepiness to the character. There's also the brilliantly written soundtrack, and I'll always remember how delicious everything looked. I think that even though it goes against what Roald Dahl wrote, Gene Wilder will always be Willy Wonka, no competition. What a beautiful movie, but also quite scary. If it weren't for this film, we wouldn't have one of the greatest memes ever. This will always be one of my favorite movies. :)

[@RyneMurray23]

"Nipple Chocolate" made me spit my drink on the floor😂😂 It is true through

[@gregsteele806]

"How does he know?" Because Wonka rigged the contest.

[@oliverbrownlow5615]

The real answer is that Slugworth/Wilkinson "knows," or appears to know because of *dramatic compression of the narrative.* The filmmakers want the audience to know that "Slugworth" made the same offer to all five Golden Ticket winners. The only economical way to convey this is to show him on the scene as each kid wins or shortly afterward, interacting with him or her. Otherwise, they'd have to show five separate scenes of each kid being contacted later on in a more naturalistic way, which would be repetitious and boring.

[@Deathbird_Mitch]

When you realise he rigged it things start to make a little more sense. A businessmen's daughter, may have business sense to run the business. NOPE, eliminated. A kid very into food, may have respect for the candies and possibly innovate. NOPE, eliminated. A girl very into gum, may bring a new aspect to the company and be innovative. NOPE, eliminated. A boy who is into the latest technology and what is in culturally (at the time), may help bring the company into the future. NOPE, eliminated. A local boy who reminds Wonka of himself who just likes the company and is intelligent and curious, so Wonka could teach him all about the company and he can bring it into the future. A-HA

[@oliverbrownlow5615]

@@Deathbird_Mitch That's a good summary of why Wonka may have given at least some consideration to each of the other kids before rejecting them, but by no means does it prove or even suggest that the outcome of the Golden Ticket giveaway was fraudulently pre-arranged. Despite the widespread popularity of this notion, it actually creates more problems than it resolves. For example, if Wonka selects five kids to be the Golden Ticket winners, even conceding that such a thing would be possible (which I do not), why does he choose four obnoxious kids and only one kind, polite, deserving kid? If the true object of the giveaway is to find a worthy successor to run his factory, why not choose five kids who all have good qualities that might make them serious contenders? If Charlie is the special object of Wonka's interest, as some contend, why use a promotion that requires people to spend as much as they possibly can on Wonka bars to put a Golden Ticket in the hands on a boy who's dirt poor? If Wonka knows anything about Charlie in advance, he surely knows that Charlie *never* buys candy bars. How can Wonka be sure that Charlie will open even one during the promotion? Even if you assume that Wonka or one his surrogates planted the coin for Charlie to find in the storm drain, how could they be sure that Charlie would find it? That someone else wouldn't find it first? That if Charlie found it, he wouldn't take it home to his mother to spend for his family's needs, rather than buying candy with it? Much is made of the fact that the candy store owner brings the Wonka bar with the Golden Ticket from behind the counter and hands it to Charlie. But that's the *second* candy bar that Charlie buys. When he comes into the store, he doesn't have a clear idea of what he wants, and allows the candy store owner to name a specific type of bar, which he accepts. If the candy store owner is Wonka's agent, and his job is to get the Wonka bar with the Golden Ticket in it into Charlie's hands, why doesn't he suggest a regular Wonka bar for Charlie's first purchase? Given that Charlie has *never* come into his store before and bought a candy bar, how can he possibly know that Charlie will ever buy another one, let alone buy another one before he leaves? This hardly scratches the surface of the problems with the conspiracy theory.

[@morbidpanda25]

Actually, that's not even really the answer. The actual answer is that this movie had a very messy (in a good way, in my opinion), production, and partway into filming, they decided the film needed a "villain", so they found a guy who could look creepy, and shoved him into the movie whispering in the kids ears, and said "Eh, we'll figure out who he is later" The scenes with Charlie speaking to Slugworth, and in Wonka's office, were filmed MUCH later on than the kids' initial introductions, at which point they figured out what his role would be, but they just wound up never explaining it lol

[@PlasmaMongoose]

8:48 The guy explaining about the machine is Tim Brooke-Taylor, who is best know as one of The Goodies, a popular British comedy show back in the 1970s and early 80s.

[@nancyomalley6286]

I thought he was John Byner

[@dbsommers1]

Not always, but in this case, yes. There still isn't really a movie that is like this, yet has this weird almost dark edge to it without being truly dark.

[@krizan1]

8:31 The question isn't why he's there, it's how? In Germany for Gloop, then England for Veruca, then America for both Violet & Mike then back to England for Charlie. Must be teleportation. 🤣

[@s.henrlllpoklookout5069]

25:21 "Like 'It's a Small World' on acid." Ohhhh, strap in....

[@videohistory722]

No, snozzberies are not a euphemism for something else. It's just a reference to another Roald Dahl book.

[@kravor5341]

Grandpa joe has an entire sub culture dedicate to hating him because he spent 20 years in bed smoking tobacco and making his family support him and the moment a free trip to a chocolate factory rolled around he was running like usain bolt

[@xejelah]

That really speaks to the superficiality and materialism of the newer generation. Whatever his disability that put him in bed and kept him there, it required something important and of repute to give him enough hope to supply mind over matter. An adventure with his grandson and a way to help his grandson make his dreams come true. All 4 of them are disabled, but only Joe mustered enough hope to become a miracle. Those people miss the point entirely.

[@sawanna508]

@@xejelah Also I think in the other movie it is mentioned all four of them are quite old (beyond 80 and 80 was older back then then know). So of coures the body will hurt and refuse to work well and depression among older people is a thing too. I understand how they must feel. Since they are poor the beds maybe the only warm places in the house which may add to the problem.

[@johnnym7575]

Ok... They're 80+ now but 20 years ago they weren't. Grandpa Joe is the worst.

[@johnnym7575]

​@xejelah you'd think having your daughter and grandson not live a life of hell for 20 years would be enough motivation. He's as garbage as the other 4 kids.

[@The_Dudester]

@@sawanna508 My grandfather turned 80 in 1971. He could run a 10 minute mile (he had been a smoker-age 9 to 65) and he picked fights with men half his age and beat them. It was a freak accident that finally killed him.

[@melenatorr]

Ah. I'm sad ... we learned the poem "Sea Fever" in junior high school. It's a very nice piece and here it is: Sea-Fever BY JOHN MASEFIELD I must go down to the seas again, to the lonely sea and the sky, And all I ask is a tall ship and a star to steer her by; And the wheel’s kick and the wind’s song and the white sail’s shaking, And a grey mist on the sea’s face, and a grey dawn breaking. I must go down to the seas again, for the call of the running tide Is a wild call and a clear call that may not be denied; And all I ask is a windy day with the white clouds flying, And the flung spray and the blown spume, and the sea-gulls crying. I must go down to the seas again, to the vagrant gypsy life, To the gull’s way and the whale’s way where the wind’s like a whetted knife; And all I ask is a merry yarn from a laughing fellow-rover, And quiet sleep and a sweet dream when the long trick’s over. Incidentally, when thinking about this poem, our Spanish father would launch into a Spanish poem, "La Pirata", which had a refrain which translates to: "My only treasure a pirate ship, My god but liberty. My law brute force and a might wind, My land the open sea." (www3.gobiernodecanarias.org/medusa/edublog/iesvillademazo/wp-content/uploads/sites/190/2017/03/la-cancion-del-pirata-de-jose-de-espronceda.pdf)

[@Robert08010]

I saw an interview with Gene Wilder in which he said he added that flip at the beginning of the tour because he thought the actual character from the book was a bid mad and he didn't think that came across in this script. So he added that in deference to the writer of the book. But you're not the only one who likes both. I like the Johnny Depp version too although for very different reasons. I grew up with this version and I love it, but if I'm honest, I think the Depp version makes more sense. WHY is Willy a recluse? Because hes borderline insane. So the Depp version is more interesting. But this will always be the original and the best. That song at the end was ingrained deep in my soul as a child and it lives within me to this day.

[@neilmcdonald9164]

Only Wilder knew how tunnel bit was going to go...rest of cast reaction is real🎩

[@TheBigTamale]

Part 2 is called Snowpiercer (2013)

[@TayannaStudios]

There's no comparisson for me, this is THE definite version of this story. It's cram-packed with heart that it's just unbeatable.

[@dannyjorde2677]

Well, the author disagrees.

[@TayannaStudios]

@@dannyjorde2677 hence why I said "for me".

[@dannyjorde2677]

@@TayannaStudios Invalid opinion then

[@TayannaStudios]

@@dannyjorde2677 well...No. No it's not. It's MY opinion. You don't like it? Good for you. Don't start. You won't win.

[@jenny5moon]

I for one am *loving* these reactions to classic movies, you both seem to truly appreciate them for what they are ~ Wen especially just gets the warmth and charm of them and it’s wonderful to see. Thank you both ❤❤

[@garyrussell6614]

It was filmed in Germany seen this so meny times in the local pictures growing up in the late 70's

[@gregorygant4242]

Yep ,in Munich Germany.

[@sawanna508]

I thought so. The town dose look German from birds perspectiv; not english or american. I just couldn't tell which town.

[@benmarshall404]

Most of the filming was in Munich, but the town seen at the end from the air is Nordlingen in Bavaria (hope I spelt it right!)

[@tsumiproductions]

I like you doing both new and old movies. A mix is always fun. What about To Kill a Mocking Bird and A Night to Remember?

[@danielberg7644]

I grew up on the east coast in the 1970s. Once in a while our neighborhood ice cream man would throw the group of kids standing outside his truck candy. He was awesome!

[@ShesBats]

😆 you two are so silly. Watching movies with you is fun. I recommend The Witches, I forgot the year but it stars Angelica Houston

[@xejelah]

1990 - yes, they should react to it!

[@EiriUesugiKun]

26:39 - Yes, this movie was considered to be a childrens movie back when I was like 8 and this movie was like 13 years old at the time. xD We had the best movies back then... (I hope you either will, or have seen The Goonies)

[@vtjbproductions]

Gene’s Wonka always felt more confident and in control as opposed to Depp’s who always seems insecure and bumbling at times.

[@TothanCrawk]

Even though it takes a while to get to the factory, the runtime before is still filled with many funny moments.

[@RyneMurray23]

This movie is a masterpiece👌🏼

[@darthtyrion8057]

Loved it guys thanks so much

[@marksterner7532]

Two great movies that Gene Wilder starred in are 1) "Young Frankenstein" and 2) "Blazing Saddles". Both are Mel Brooks films, both are unbelievably funny, and Gene Wilder is amazing in each of them. Madeline Kahn was also in both films, and was great in each one.

[@happysigns]

"The Miracle Worker" (2007), "Tuck Everlasting" and "Uncle Buck" are great movies. And they're a little older.

[@strawberrysoulforever8336]

Someone told me that this movie was named because they wanted to advertise Wonka brand sweets that were just coming out. I'm glad you remembered that the book named Charlie as the main character. He's still the true lead in this movie, the one who develops. Thank you, Peter Ostrum, even if this was your only role.

[@thiefgold0913]

You should react to Young Frankenstein 1974, with Gene Wilder.

[@paulquaife7974]

Pure imagination is a perfect song, so so good

[@WilliamLucas-hy8mx]

The bit in family guy when Peter runs all the way home with the beer scroll and trips outside the house is funny.

[@brandonarthur93]

for its time was spectacular

[@raybernal6829]

Grew up in the 70s watching this on TV whenever it was on. Then my daughters watched this and loved it. Just an EPIC movie.... ❤❤

[@Jymm]

36:32 I felt I had to google the location! 😃 The village below is Nördlingen, Bavaria, Germany.

[@tbessie]

I met the actors who played Mike TeeVee and Veruca Salt at a screening of the movie at the Alamo Drafthouse here in San Francisco a few years ago. Pretty fun!

[@brianmurphy8811]

"Is older better?" - The answer is Gene Wilder.

[@biguy617]

You need to see Disney movie 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea, next.

[@elvwood]

Just for your entertainment, watch the Pitch Meeting for this film - it casts a whole new light on Grandpa Joe...