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Is PokeMMO Pay 2 Win?

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patrouski

patrouski

Күн бұрын

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@Ted_the_Dragoon
@Ted_the_Dragoon Жыл бұрын
Something I think you forgot to mention is how in this game you can grind poke yen in order to buy the vouchers you need to buy everything in those RP shops which is a really big deal because a lot of other games don't have any way for you to buy microtransaction rewards without spending money
@piercemchugh4509
@piercemchugh4509 Жыл бұрын
It wont cost you money but it will take years of your life. Everything feels extremely expensive and requires tons and tons of grinding. Whether thats good or bad is subjective.
@am22m
@am22m Жыл бұрын
I’m gonna be real here man. I’ve been blessed to have a lot of discretionary income and I have spent over $400 in pokemmo (just started 4 months ago) so that I can buy the exact Pokemon I want and the shiny dratini I’ve always wanted. Idc about OT Pokemon. Idc about PVP. I play to have fun with my friends and play with Pokémon I think are cool (with high 31 IVs). I don’t have enough time to grind so I PAY.
@yourpenguins8739
@yourpenguins8739 Жыл бұрын
You just explained why video games were invented. Thank you for reminding everyone ❤
@Gwapster
@Gwapster Жыл бұрын
@@yourpenguins8739video games were invented to sink time into to escape from the real world. Not pay to skip it.. it’s cool that you can pay nowadays if you’re into that
@pairel8414
@pairel8414 Жыл бұрын
just thought i'd point out that $50 worth of rp would get you 12m, not 37m
@patrouski
@patrouski Жыл бұрын
Streamers are terrible at math, than you.
@Play4Zeta
@Play4Zeta Жыл бұрын
Is PokeMMO P2W, yes. Does it ruin the MMO experience, no.
@EvilSlayer_LM
@EvilSlayer_LM Жыл бұрын
I guess you never played a p2w game then
@Play4Zeta
@Play4Zeta Жыл бұрын
@@EvilSlayer_LM Aight Chief
@SPIDERMANTVkabenom
@SPIDERMANTVkabenom Жыл бұрын
​@@Play4Zetaits not pay to win when you only have 1 currency and you can buy almost everything in gtl. There are no special pokemons aswell for donators. Majority of the people in the rankings in pvp are not donators. They just play better than anyone. So i dont know how you say its pay to win. When all you can buy if your a donator is a custume which doesnt even give out stats. You just look better than others.
@Play4Zeta
@Play4Zeta Жыл бұрын
@@SPIDERMANTVkabenom You can just buy the currency and buy PVP ready mons.
@jimmytest1036
@jimmytest1036 7 ай бұрын
All video's i watched randomly about PokeMMO is from you😂 bro is grinding
@healthtodayplus3652
@healthtodayplus3652 Жыл бұрын
I played other games like Bleach Brave Soul, ShadowVerse, Naruto Blazing, and Princess Connect. Those games were pay to win, but not so much Princess Connect. If the game revolves too much around the meta, it becomes pay to win. Especially, battle passes. In Pokémon, I can earn money from Elite Four, Gym Re-rerun, NPCS and rematching with NPC every 6 hours, catch Pokémon's to sell on GTL, earn battle points at battle frontier in exchange for special items, breed Pokémon's for profit or for pvp, and lastly completing the pokedex to beat Red every week. If this game was run by Ubisoft, (As an example), they will release all legendary Pokémon's from generations 1-5, they will put a micro transaction for each Pokémon costing $200, and they will never fix cancer pvp and game rebalancing. Just look at Diablo 4. Diablo 4 is run by Blizzard.
@Wimpyfox
@Wimpyfox Жыл бұрын
Pokemmo is very pay to win. Why they allow you to straight up just buy reward points and then sell it for pokeyen boggles my mind, they may aswell just let you buy money. It can be discouraging to want to grind for 10s to 100s of hours for perfect IVs,shinies,etc. When you could just fork out like 5 to 10 bucks to simply buy it
@patrouski
@patrouski Жыл бұрын
A Perfect IV Pokemon is equivalent to 3 hours of gym runs, 2 if you breed it yourself. Or you could pay 10$ for it. Like the video said you CANNOT Buy PvP Skill or OT Shinies. A player who puts in any amount of time will always demolish a player who just spends, you can pay for advantage but not pay to win imo.
@Wimpyfox
@Wimpyfox Жыл бұрын
@@patrouski The main element against pay 2 win imo is that it's not really viable to pay for exp, since candies and rare candies are generally overpriced but levels only really matter for pve
@bram1nabuurs471
@bram1nabuurs471 Жыл бұрын
Possibly fun video idea, underrated vanities under 1 million pokeyen! Red oni mask for example, such a sick item imo!
@patrouski
@patrouski Жыл бұрын
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@lookitsjamess
@lookitsjamess Жыл бұрын
💯 faxxx! Why buy items in the gift shop when you could buy em off the gtl. (Capital is a must b4 everything thou) At least in my opinion. Nice vid pat! Infos on point
@rorogcrystallion6609
@rorogcrystallion6609 Жыл бұрын
Wow that is a crazy way to think about it it only benefits over a long period of time not short term
@SosaParks69hunna
@SosaParks69hunna Жыл бұрын
Very serious question: are the thoughts kind of the same with the addition of the mysterious balls and shiny rate increase?
@patrouski
@patrouski Жыл бұрын
Unfortunately no lol, mysterious balls were the most pay to win thing ive ever seen in pokemmo
@rorogcrystallion6609
@rorogcrystallion6609 Жыл бұрын
Love this video you make good points I say Nothing equates to skill and perseverance look at it this way i have bought a few donator status now with irl funds and i have only ever got shiny mons without donator status and no shiny charm i am on some super dead streak but living proof we cant really pay to win at all practice makes perfect with anything in life
@rusty9180
@rusty9180 Жыл бұрын
Believe I started around a week ago, I fully believe Pokemmo is great for both F2P and Players willing to spend; For F2P players, there are plenty of outside information made from the community themselves that will greatly HELP to progress through the story. Sure it will take a bit longer to say reach your Endgame wants, but you'll get there by just playing... haven't felt the NEED to spend money. For Players willing to spend, the stuff within the shop that helps ADVANCEMENT in your account... essentially speeding up progression in-game. But like mentioned in the video, the stuff within the shop doesn't give the buyer a HEAVY advantage nor a heavily coveted endgame target (Pokémon or Yen). Overall I feel like there isn't a big force of spending in PokeMMO compared to other games, with just spending money helps speed ups progression but if F2P players just plays like how they want to play they'll eventually reach the same endgame goal the spender has but a tad slower.
@yakopc6600
@yakopc6600 Жыл бұрын
players willing to spend players? I'm terrified
@rusty9180
@rusty9180 Жыл бұрын
​@yakopc6600 don't know what you're talking about ~~~ *whistle* 😭👀
@yakopc6600
@yakopc6600 Жыл бұрын
@@rusty9180 You got it
@gamersxs
@gamersxs Жыл бұрын
Is there a limit on how many RP vouchers you can buy in a specific time period?
@flonshi2934
@flonshi2934 Жыл бұрын
i might have "invested" about 200 euro in pokemmo just to get a lot of pokeyen, my reason aint pvp or shunting. just to play the game with my cousin and do fun nuzlocks and shit but ive till now only used to money to have the item we want of even a pokemon dont care much about the iv, ofc i do still love to make money but i found that this helps playing the game in a what careless way
@Lunix_Hardcore
@Lunix_Hardcore Жыл бұрын
PokeMMOs monetization feels very reasonable to me
@Hmmmmmmm1
@Hmmmmmmm1 Жыл бұрын
Not p2w, but definitely has a problem where new players feel WAAAY behind. I played years and years ago and stopped until johto came out and I feel like I've missed so much that I don't even want to put time into it since I'm so behind
@bram1nabuurs471
@bram1nabuurs471 Жыл бұрын
For me its the opposite, I came back 3 months ago and loved all the new content that was added to the game and that motivated me to grind!
@Hmmmmmmm1
@Hmmmmmmm1 Жыл бұрын
@@worlddesires1565 you're behind like 12 years, but at least you're dedicated
@KillerOstrich
@KillerOstrich Жыл бұрын
Started a few days ago. As a person that hates feeling like i missed out on stuff i understand where you are coming from completely but the way this game is portrayed it doesnt seem like i CANT catch up like other games would have me feel. Ya there may have been some timegated stuff however it seems like if i REALLY want something i can grind up enough currency and look for it in the shop. Im just excited to have found such a cool game and even more excited that i know it will hold my interest for years to come.
@huutriet2045
@huutriet2045 Жыл бұрын
I mean without these micro transactions, players can still grind for all of those buffs. In positive perspective, it's more like donation for the devs and somehow got some gifts back (the buffs)
@jmaxsupreme3524
@jmaxsupreme3524 Жыл бұрын
I didn’t even know there were micro transactions in this game. They rlly don’t shove it in your face at all
@lindseybrown5648
@lindseybrown5648 Жыл бұрын
Got my Shiny Fox sooo Donator was hella worth it!!
@Wulfenburg
@Wulfenburg 7 ай бұрын
I don't understand how another company can make real money off of a pokemon rom? That doesn't seem legal and it's hurting my head lol.
@Jack-Revill
@Jack-Revill Жыл бұрын
with the systems put in place you can obviosly pay your way though the game but if you truely love the game you can grind for everything that you cant afford
@rorogcrystallion6609
@rorogcrystallion6609 Жыл бұрын
Omg its a no brainer better to just play the game and have fun I actually put myself off pokemmo for a while sweating my dratini hunt in unova 😅
@youisnotcomp689
@youisnotcomp689 Жыл бұрын
pat play dubs
@skitzy47
@skitzy47 Жыл бұрын
By definition it is but I dont feel it ingame
@Lothkru
@Lothkru 8 ай бұрын
Why do people have to keep making excuses for p2w? Is the game p2w? Of course it is. Is it a bad game? Not, it's not. Why is it so hard to accept that your favorite game is p2w? xD
@patrouski
@patrouski 8 ай бұрын
Can you explain this with any argumentation aside from just stating that its the case? I feel like i made a pretty good case in the video and if you disagree thats fine. But id appreciate you sharing your reasoning.
@Lothkru
@Lothkru 8 ай бұрын
​@@patrouski If you can purchase anything with real money that gives an advantage over anyone that doesn't purchase anything, then the game becomes p2w for the simple fact that you can obtain any reward inside the game faster than anyone who doesn't pay. In PokeMMO is not only that you can purchase increase in shiny spawns, nor faster egg hatching, nor faster exp (which all make it p2w in itself). You can also purchase the in-game currency with real money, giving you an edge over anyone, since you can purchase any super competitive Pokemon in the GTL with real money by buying the RP vouchers and selling them. Again, a p2w game is not inherently a bad game, I've played many p2w games and enjoyed them in spite the p2w. Lost Ark, WoW, BDO, PokeMMO, etc... But saying that the game is not p2w just because you have to spend a ridiculous amount of real money to gain the advantage is disingenuous, there are plenty of whales in many games that spend hundreds of thousands of dollars just to have an edge over free to play people in pretty much every game that allows this practice. Whether you can spend 10 bucks to have the best things or 1 million dollars, doesn't matter, you can pay to have the best stuff, p2w is not less p2w just because is more expensive to be it.
@azuresky1133
@azuresky1133 Жыл бұрын
There's 5 regions now =D
@MahmurdSahara
@MahmurdSahara Жыл бұрын
wow only has cosmetics or any mounts which are basically cosmetics too. you wont benefit from them pretty much imo
@patrouski
@patrouski Жыл бұрын
WoW has the WoW token which is the same exact thing has RP vouchers, you buy it to sell it for gold.
@MahmurdSahara
@MahmurdSahara Жыл бұрын
@@patrouski hmm yea i agree but r u rly having big benefits from that? my wow knowledge might be outdated as i didnt touch recent expansions but imo, for basically everything good you need to grind hard, but yea very similar to the vouchers
@patrouski
@patrouski Жыл бұрын
ye no i agree with you, gold can only get you so far in any game, doesnt get u untradeable gear, mounts or pvp/raid skill. Same with PokeMMO. Just thought id address it since its important!@@MahmurdSahara
@ZevielS
@ZevielS Жыл бұрын
No. Pokémon revolution online that is heading towards pay to win from how things are currently and what a dev said in there discord with in game money making
@station4658
@station4658 Жыл бұрын
i have 4 regions done (very close to 5) and i easily make 500k+ a day
@danielsemmelrock7808
@danielsemmelrock7808 8 ай бұрын
Which isn't even 1$.. If I spent 1$ per day on the game I would make more than you without even playing, which makes it pay2win
@station4658
@station4658 8 ай бұрын
@@danielsemmelrock7808 your math is wrong but ok
@danielsemmelrock7808
@danielsemmelrock7808 8 ай бұрын
​​@@station4658Yeah? tell me Even if its 2 or 5$ per day it's still nothing for many people
@HachannEinzbern
@HachannEinzbern Жыл бұрын
It's not that you can't "win" by not paying, but those who pay get a huge advantage, you mentioned only the amount of time that you save in shunting, but the main point was that the person who payed real money got in-game cash extremelly fast, like you can pay 100 bucks and by that alone get more profit than someone who played dozens or even hundreds of hours, and that's a form of P2W. It doesn't ruin the game, but it's still P2W
@NuggetHor1234
@NuggetHor1234 Жыл бұрын
There’s the option to pay to win, example: u could buy reward points any just buy ocarinas and sell them for cheap, however MMOs are best when u grind yourself, so u can just just spend real money to make money, however pokemmo, like a mainline Pokémon game is rewarding for doing things yourself, such as completing OT Pokédex in pokemmo etc (so much more to it pokemmo, just an example)
@ashtenbahr646
@ashtenbahr646 Жыл бұрын
Has this game really been out for 10 years??
@patrouski
@patrouski Жыл бұрын
11 now! :D
@cclste
@cclste Жыл бұрын
I just started a p2w profile and yeah it’s pretty p2w
@patrouski
@patrouski Жыл бұрын
What have you accomplished on it so far?
@cclste
@cclste Жыл бұрын
@@patrouski finished jhoto, hoenn, finishing up kanto all under 50 hours i have 4 mons 3x31 and 2 5x31 with OT from buying and breeding and I have some pretty good drip that everyone hates as well
@cclste
@cclste Жыл бұрын
@brady1551 Who needs 6x31 that’s an extra 10mil and mind you I’m only trying to do all 5 regions in story won’t do comp till 500 or so hours on profile I just finished hoenn
@cclste
@cclste Жыл бұрын
First shiny OT 131 hours in $120 spent
@zetacod3
@zetacod3 Жыл бұрын
No it's not
@danielsemmelrock7808
@danielsemmelrock7808 8 ай бұрын
Basically if you are willing to spend some $$$ on the game, you can skip all the money making methods and buy every Pokemon/Item you want from the GTL. So yes, in that regard it is absolutely pay to win, which isn't great! Does it make the game bad?Well there is shiny hunting which is well balanced, PVP, Dex Completion + all the improved Storylines making it still a great game imo!
@nunuki100
@nunuki100 Жыл бұрын
It's definitely not a Pay2Win
@dandan89ful
@dandan89ful Жыл бұрын
Yes it is, 100%.
@ImmortalAmpony
@ImmortalAmpony 10 ай бұрын
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