Is RUNEBLADES the new Arcanist META??? 128K+ DPS Update 43

[@vossboss220]

Rune blades has always been a really cool skill idea with just no room to actually be used

[@seabhacgra517]

I always preferred runeblades as I was leveling my arcanist for DPS and building cruxes,.. it started to pale in comparison to flail's utility and effectiveness.. I hope runeblades makes a comeback!

[@bonebae8173]

@@seabhacgra517 Same! Always put that on when leveling. But I also find it really nice on an oaken arc for easy dungeon farms on cp160 toons

[@seabhacgra517]

I'm just glad for new ideas for builds.. I always loved Runeblades, they felt like Green Lantern throwing stars.. like I am a GLC ninja! Just got back after 6+ years and started an Arcanist and 99% of everything I look up for my Arcanist is 8+months old and alot of dated ideas. Thanks for the fresh new take for 43! subbed to keep up with your content!

[@davidkampmann9783]

Tbh i just wanted to swap the tentacle out for the runeblades and be done with it 😅.

[@ravenstalons154]

Hard mode trial runners: "We got 'em, boys! Now, they will be cookie cutter just like all the rest.

[@eigh1puppies]

The lack of diversity in eso endgame is tragic

[@rainsolo5126]

So with tentacular dread doing more damage, what’s the chance a now buffed multi target traveling knife that generates crux ends up being close to meta?

[@eigh1puppies]

I was thinking about this recently too, could be very interesting

[@rainsolo5126]

@@eigh1puppies Yeah at the very least physical/bleed damage is a better status effect, you get execute scaling AND some aoe. Slap on the major crit buff so you don't have to double bar camo and I'm intrigued.

[@ewapiksrandeb3966]

The problem with tentacular dread is it consumes crux and is weaker in comparison to fatecarver. Maybe runeblades vs flail might be something to think about

[@ColbyCadwell]

Ya i think i got roughly 122k with runeblades when arc first came out. It wasnt that far behind then and the buff to tentac flail (and other fatecarv nerfs) i can see it being slightly ahead single target now… perfect video as usual.

[@RyanIsIffy]

This was a well put together vid Pups. Gg dude!

[@jahloveinfla]

would it not be possible to drop deadly cloak since arcanist already gets minor evasion from passives and instead runeblade, dread and fatecarver? runeblades to build crux, spend on one dread, build back to 3 then beam. by then the ink buff would fall off so switch back to that and possibly reapply dots. much busier rotation but maybe one of you high end guys can do it?

[@eigh1puppies]

First off, cloak is run for its damage: with the skill itself and for better enchant proccing, it’s really strong! Second, it gives Major Evasion, which is super nice for a ton of content in combination with the arcs minor evasion Third, I tested the bar setup you mentioned a long time ago when the class first came out and it did a little worse than just regular Runeblades or regular Fatecarver if I recall. I don’t think enough has changed to make that setup relevant but I could be wrong!

[@gunarsbudris]

I use rune blades and fate carver with full magica with lightening staff. Hits like a truck and it is ranged, no problem at all...

[@rainbowstay]

Regardless of it falling out of top slot dps, pragmatic fate carver with a back bar maelstrom inferno is still good dps and easily managed. This is going to fall off big time in hard content but the majority of the community isn't doing that anyway. I still feel like my Stam arc carries the majority of vet queue content.

[@ivanchon]

Just great, there was one class not depending on Relequen... playing a little bit different than others, let's say not the same overall, well... now it goes the same. Needles to say new skill crafting is less than irrelevant in terms of real power and variety for builds. Yeeeey.. amazing (absolute sarcasm tone)

[@esolegendat]

Console players will soon copy-paste this meta build to maximize their dummy dps. Dungeon and Trial DPS will go down in any unorganized runs due to the lack of area damage. Also, ”can we run Cloudrest” requests will start appearing again.

[@ewapiksrandeb3966]

I would like to see if Abyssal Ink from flail can be used by atleast 1 member of the group ,then everyone can benefit on it 😁 If there are more arcanist in the group might be good to change to runeblades. However at some reason need flail in some scenarios where you go portal team to heal yourself up

[@eigh1puppies]

I like this idea alot

[@MANIACBOA]

how do I get that bar showing on the left of skills you used?

[@eigh1puppies]

Add on called weave delays mainly used to track weaving!

[@LouGaru01]

Rule 1: "Don't talk about Runeblades." The devs might nerf this into the ground. Let's not make today's Arc like yesterday's Nec.

[@eigh1puppies]

I broke that rule

[@bartacus1252]

As a Player who started the game like 2 Weeks ago the build variety seemed super overwhelming. Been mostly playing as tank but for vatasheran i needed to come up With a dps build to be able to clear It. I really disliked fate carver so i went with runeblades and 2h skills which worked really well. This is the first eso video i watched but it tells me my build is atleast somewhat decent 😊

[@T-REXMACHINEGUN]

the beam is cooler so I'll use it lol As a plar main i just want jabs to hit 4 times again or blazing spear being a good aoe dot. There's a guy on my server[ps-na] peacez. Dudes insane he can hit 130k+ on almost any stam dps.

[@scrapburgin4193]

I was considering this when I saw notes...I just don't have pts so couldnt test myself

[@eigh1puppies]

I almost completely forgot to try it

[@scrapburgin4193]

@@eigh1puppies very happy someone did. On the initial release of the arcanist, I was kinda disappointed that runeblades were actually a loss of damage using them as a crux generator for fatecarver bc two flails was just easier and saved bar space. And for those that like the arc for aesthetics, this gives a more interactive rotation rather than just yawning through all the beams lol

[@SirClydus]

So I can run runeblades now…. W!!

[@wudookid]

whats going on with mag arcanist? is it somewhat viable or its way behind the stam arcanist??

[@eigh1puppies]

Mag arc should be right with Stam arc for the most part

[@deerianavi4156]

"Opens up a whole new world of sets that the Arc can run"... my entire body shakes in exitement, waiting to hear about that new world, 2 seconds later: "Relequen" same as every single class in game, damn it, almost ZERO variety in theorycrafting in this game, and of course not because players, but because lazy devs

[@eigh1puppies]

Haha the “meta” is going to be the meta in every game, but the arc can’t consistently run the vast variety of good sets out there that most classes can: rele, advancing, Selene, siroria, greatsword, bows: this list massive because most good sets in the game require sources of direct, or light attack damage

[@carissakaisen5264]

So sorc isnt used much anymore

[@eigh1puppies]

You usually have one in raid

[@RatstabOfficial]

Gg Chavo!

[@jale8455]

So nothing changes prty much when it comes to raiding. Groups will just deal bit less dmge, which isn't issue because there is way too much damage available compared to difficulty of actual content anyway.

[@Zog-The-Swedish-Honky]

Well arcanist just got less fun

[@GoochMuncher6969]

This nerf is just going to hurt low skill players, just like how nerfing oakensoul has proven to do nothing but hurt the floor of the game, you really notice it in random vet duengon finder

[@largemouthbass355]

Oakensoul created a permanent floor that many couldn’t climb out of. Velothi was and is the better mythic for curbing the skill between players while also fitting into the meta and casual 4 man play.

[@clus1692]

Honestly you can really see how low the skill level is when you queue into a vet dungeon. It's 2024 and I still can't tank a simple pledge without it taking 20 to 30 minutes because the dps is so low.

[@BenvolioCapulet9]

I have an Oakensoul heavy attack build that regularly is top ten in the weekly arena leaderboards (Mael and Vateshran). I took 2nd in my last Mael run as a Necro. If thats the floor, the ceiling is pretty low. Also 4 man dungeon content I regularly pull 60-70% of the group dps…

[@alexrise4030]

Oakensoul was a big problem in PvP as well. Was not too fun to see that im suddenly struggling a bit against people who didn't have a single clue what they're doing just because they slapped oakensoul.

[@largemouthbass355]

@@BenvolioCapulet9 Thats great! But thats not the ceiling. 1 bar builds lack the damage to get the hardest content in the game done. And that was prior to them nerfing the Destro passives and Storm Masters set. I see alot of HA users who got so comfortable using oakensoul that they basically cringe at the fact they have to swap bars. Thats not a good thing for the player base imo.

[@D4rkstone1337]

Time to cook boys🍝

[@JGburneraccount]

The nerf to flail is garbage. Jesus.

[@ewapiksrandeb3966]

The nerf is mostly done due to executing capabilities from this skill. AND damn,why templar's beam isn't nerfed then huh???

[@Zog-The-Swedish-Honky]

Going to miss fatecarver or will it still be useful

[@eigh1puppies]

It will still be useful

[@knowlen]

ZoS designing RB Arcanist: 1. copy / paste DK 2. rename Igneous Weapons to Inspired Scholarship 3. rename Seething Fury to Crux 4. rename Whip to Flail, add cleave & snare 5. rename Volatile Armor to Cruxweave Armor, replace the dot with breach, and give it --Seething Fury-- Crux* generation 6. delete Flames of Oblivion and Talons to justify 4th step Hot take, but like why do we even have classes at this point? People just re-create the same build and play the one with the best passives each patch. If they buff scribing, it will push us even further away from class skills. It just seems so unnecessary

[@eigh1puppies]

@@knowlen attacking Fatecarver is def hurting the classes identity

[@davidkampmann9783]

I'm still thinking that zos should have made an limitation for scribing skills, for example only being able to slot 1 scripted skill per bar etc. That would have been better for the health of the game and the system, if they decide to add more grims in the future.

[@knowlen]

@@davidkampmann9783 but then how would you pLaY hOw YoU wAnT? 🥴

[@davidkampmann9783]

@@knowlentbh every time when zos mentions that phrase I start to feel sick 😅🤢

[@User-skdbfksjf]

I dont like beamcarver go brr. Sounds annoying. I like it every time I imagine a guard from Oblivion, say BLRLRLRRR. Now, i don't have to imagine as hard. It's really powerful. If you try runeblades in IA with the exanguinate for double hits, it's really powerful. Seeing you can stand at a dummy is a good thing because moving and targeting is harder when dead party, solo survival, or can't channel. I entered pvp. carver is not good, lol. I'm still looking for a better build. Ty for video. Didn't know update came out.

[@eigh1puppies]

@@User-skdbfksjf the update goes live in a couple weeks, this is from the testing server!

[@GoodGuyDevin]

idk people say carver isnt good in pvp but once i build DOTs and immobilize with flail the fatecarver just melts the rest of there health away like nothing. i think people are just trying to use it like a spammable and then get blocked lol

[@Shadow_Ronin200]

im just gonna say it fatecaver was a mistake to give ARC

[@eigh1puppies]

I enjoy the attempt to create something different

[@hmmstve]

"the skill is not very good for dps" - 6k ish difference in your test between the two and the fact that most bosses are aoe... you sure about that? Keep in mind that parsing doesn't necessarily translate over to raid encounters. At this point in time, especially in LC, AOE is king and who does it better than Arc? I don't think you have an argument here to say runeblades is better when objectively, you don't disagree and even go a step further to counter your own points on why runeblades is better. This just sounds like bait to get people to stop playing around the meta and to try new things. This won't happen until ZOS makes a dramatic shift which will feel like never.

[@eigh1puppies]

Are you talking about my comment on Pragmatic?

[@hmmstve]

@@eigh1puppies Yes, you say pragmatic isn't a good skill for dps with nothing to back that up. In fact you reinforce instead that it is currently the best skill for various different reasons, contradicting yourself. There is a reason why your top groups are nothing but arcanists, and it will remain to be this way with fatecarver at the top until they make a super big drastic change. The procs alone that it helps generate for blight seed in AOE fights is crazy enough. I'm sorry but rune blades will never be the new meta for this patch regardless of what your parse tells you. I appreciate the effort in trying to get people to try new things but PVE will remain stale until ZOS wakes up.

[@eigh1puppies]

@hmmstve I think you’re reading to deep into it, I just made the point that pragmatic is a pretty weak ability for damage output. And it is. It’s obviously not the worst skill out there but it’s extremely overrated. I also talked about how Runeblades probably won’t be run in content very often, but I just wanted to make people aware of this option.

[@hmmstve]

​@@eigh1puppies you laid the video out as it being the replacement for Fatecarver, when I'm sure you know yourself that it isn't good enough to replace it in any scenario and then continued by saying; "...How heavily Fatecarver has fallen and how much more worthwhile it will be utilizing other classes in your raid comps if your goal is maximizing damage". In this current state? Are you sure? And then contradicted yourself next sentence: "In AOE fights or even progression scenarios in general, you can make a strong argument for this class" Are we playing the same game? LC is nothing but AOE. Oh wait, you agree to this anyways with your statement before: "Runeblades will be noticeably stronger than Fatecarver in a single target scenario, however I can count the amount of pure single target fights there are on one hand." So why are we talking about Runeblades? Why are we even coming close to a title like "Is Runeblades the new meta?!" with a thumbnail like the one you have? Fatecarver arcanists will sadly remain to be the king in quite literally all scenarios until ZOS wakes up like I said. (regardless if logs like Q4Ndym9PBGavHr6p exists) Meaning, I'm sorry but this whole video is kind of a big nothingburger. I appreciate you trying to get people to try new things, but it just won't happen in the current state of PVE.

[@Qwertyyuioopasdfghjk]

Someone hit 135k with a kinda similar setup u used

[@eigh1puppies]

@@Qwertyyuioopasdfghjk can you send me the setup?

[@d4yzwind]

@@eigh1puppies Ytun in Skinny’s discord posted it about 2 weeks ago. I have the cmx if you still need them

[@eigh1puppies]

@@d4yzwind yeah please that we be awesome I looked around and can’t find them :/

[@d4yzwind]

@@eigh1puppies DM'd it to ya on discord

[@jdm8702]

Paging Ry to hit 140k lol

[@Wraith779]

Drop Pillar of nirn Run wrath of ele lightning staff

[@eigh1puppies]

@@Wraith779 pillar of nirn wasn’t in any of the builds shown

[@Wraith779]

@@eigh1puppies Most people run Pillar of nirn and it was mentioned, And I was just putting out something people could try to keep beams still high on damage. something I actually will be running. it's something to try and it will apply status effects when you use susceptibility.

[@Sora-o]

smh why they gotta ruin all the fun, i'm a new player and holding one button with a laser beam was pretty fun 😆

[@tanner2007]

bro is really tryna make us put down the beam 😾

[@Anthony-rp3qh]

@@tanner2007 the data doesnt lie

[@tanner2007]

@@Anthony-rp3qh yknow what else doesn’t lie? my beam