Is Rust Basically Golang? (caution: trolling ahead)

[@NamasteProgramming]

As a developer who is learning rust and go I have no idea which part of this video are sarcasm and which are facts.

[@birdbeakbeardneck3617]

drank programmer ramble

[@winfredjames4185]

dont waste time learning rust

[@NamasteProgramming]

@@winfredjames4185 Have you tried learning rust?

[@stockholmsyndromeself-trea7517]

@@MoradorDeCalcada Everyone will Go Rust-y someday.

[@devfate]

@@stockholmsyndromeself-trea7517 with time

[@SheikhEddy]

I started dying at "Rust is C++ if it was haskell"

[@nnishchit289]

Finished yet? jk

[@IamPyu-v]

Rust and Go are very different languages, Rust: nyaa-meowmeow Go: has a life

[@DVRC]

These days I've been digging the net to find obscure window systems for UNIX/Linux, and I found Fresco (written in C++, and leveraged CORBA and GGI). On the page it is said : _"we depend on CORBA... Things you use can't be bloat"_ , I laughed so hard. Then I've seen that one of the people involved was Graydon Hoare, there I thought _"wait a second, this name is familiar"_ . Then I realized... BTW the original Go toolchain was bootstrapped with the Plan 9 C compiler and assembler, while Rust was bootstrapped with OCaml (which runtime is written in C).

[@lawrencedoliveiro9104]

“OCaml ... ... I am but a fool. I still love you ... though you treat me crool...”

[@DVRC]

@@monad_tcp Check Yale T...

[@Requiem100500]

I expected joke video, but this is actually mostly true

[@wheezybackports6444]

I need a compiler to compile my compiler and a compiler to compile that compiler along with a compiler to compile the compiler to compile that compiler.

[@talkysassis]

Or you can type the compiler in plain machine code

[@JasonMitchellofcompsci]

Well you sold me on not using rust. I'm not going to say which argument did it... but it was effective.

[@poonikarthu4988]

To run your project (which can be done without running the build step as it automatically builds) you can do cargo run instead of pointing to the application directly.

[@יובלהרמן-ח2ד]

Soon what happened with the JavaScript frameworks will happen with c/c++ alternatives. You can see all the new 'fast as c but easy as python' langs out there and also carbon trying to replace cpp.

[@kreuner11]

Carbon is trying to replace C++ is legacy code bases only

[@ivanpelykh7665]

Якісний контент)) Продовжуй в тому ж дусі!

[@william1106]

love the video, microphone a bit wack but it's still all good

[@Virbox]

Thanks for the feedback!

[@MrAbrazildo]

2:33, OO is safe, it fixes the C issue. Plus, if you keep your objects (not interfaces) in arrays/containers, it's safe and easy to translate it to hashtable, if you want to - I have personal experience on that. And array of objects can compete against hashtable, when they are on L1 cache, at least. And if that company achieved "complete unmaintainable mess" with OO, they made really bad choices, because this is the strongest point of OO. 3:20, and C++ can do both on the same level of productivity, because it's flexible enough.

[@jaysistar2711]

I like the music selection. Can you post a track list? I like Rust better than Go, but, yes, it does take longer to get used to it. I do use inline asm, and in a conversation that I had with the Go devs, back in 2010, they told me that they'd never support inline asm. I had just translated x86 (32-bit) asm to C with inline asm as an intermediate, so I wasn't happy with Go after that conversation. Later, a project in Java had me fighting with the garbage collector to remove jank. I rewrote it in C++, and everything was fine. Being that everybody considers C (most of my projects are C) and C++ old and deprecated, my new projects have all been Rust. I can say that SCONS, Conan, vcpkg, and CMake have nothing on Cargo. Cargo is great! The learning curve for Rust is just too steep, right now. I hope that it will change in the future to be easier to pick up. Integrating cross language support is easier with Rust as well. I had a project that needed to integrate with Ada, and Rust made it easy by just doing what C does, and not imposing thread or GC restriction on calling or called code.

[@Virbox]

Thanks for the detailed comment! Indeed Rust is a cool language, but not simple yet. The background music is "A Piece of Magic" by Lizardking. The music played while Rust vs Go hello world comparison is made by me, I will release it soon on "Virbox Music" channel (you can find it from this channel links)

[@tommyscottish7284]

I doubt the learning curve will get easier. I've never heard of a language that shrinks in complexity.

[@jaysistar2711]

@@tommyscottish7284 It has, already, several times. Part of the learning curve is writing code that is machine verifiable. As verifiablity advances, the constraints relax, and the language increases in ergonomics.

[@vectoralphaSec]

Honestly tried both. Rust is better.

[@marcels.7074]

2:59 got me

[@razhterize]

fuck it, I'll go backward and use C

[@flamakespark]

Concurrency in Go: a single keyword in front of the function Concurrency in Rust: - Staring with singlethreaded prototype - Fixing borrow-checker errors - Fixing them again in multithreading - Spending 3+ hours in resolving that deadlock - "Fk it, I'm just gonna use Rayon"

[@goat-7658]

I feel like this would've been the worst way to learn any of the presented factoids, had I not already known all of them. I haven't watched a more incomprehensibly chaotic assortment of abstract useless information in months. Great job on making one of the most un-educational videos on this platform.

[@Virbox]

Well said, thanks for the feedback!

[@joebuydem]

You sound triggered lol.

[@stickguy9109]

@@joebuydem Same thought

[@null-0x]

Bro got triggered by a troll video

[@goat-7658]

Cue Poe's law n' shit. Have seen people say dumber things unironically.

[@GameParrot]

Video idea: When Autocorrect Destroys a Linux User's Life

[@Virbox]

Thanks! Autocorrect in the Linux shell should be really funny lol

[@Teknishun]

I really like your video. They funny and informative. Keep it up. 😀

[@Virbox]

Thanks, glad you've liked it!

[@childlikedevelopermetalang4164]

Very thoughtful. Thanks.

[@yakataz]

Use the right tool for the right job, both are good

[@Ben-rc9br]

Let's Go learn Rust

[@Alex-uf2ie]

this video is perfect

[@5ebastiancarlo5]

We, the Virbox-heads, demand more hot-take videos like this. Please our desires, oh daddy Virbox!

[@vitormelo22]

I like of Vlang, make a video about it ;)

[@jakdziala]

Урівноважений мем: і образився і поволав :D

[@jakdziala]

І підписався 🤨

[@Virbox]

@@jakdziala Ласкаво прошу! 😄

[@vanillaface6097]

Ah, a typical rant of a tiny go brain, don't forget your precious defer not to leak connections 😁

[@siriusmart]

epic outro

[@tomwilliam7299]

You are not fair 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😁😁😁😁😁 you are Go addiction

[@joebuydem]

Rust is the programming language of the social justice warriors lol. Great video again man!

[@Virbox]

haha thanks!

[@worldspam5682]

And they offends the same way

[@configurista]

sounds like a "zloy *uzzkiy Nikolay"

[@Pineapple0]

I agree so much. I love Go so freaking much, it's C/C++ without the aids. It really is C++ if it were Python, soooooooooo nice to write in. Rust looks worse than C++

[@InsertCleverUsername]

Average GC fan

[@FADHsquared]

Stop the world garbage collection!

[@romanmatveev314]

акцент, мое почтение

[@ZedusUA]

Дякую, поржав :)

[@prevv3366]

yes! yes it is!

[@darukutsu]

Rust is future. No more memory leaks...garbage collector is garbage. Imagine writing code without knowing what code does. Rust compiler is superior.

[@fungussa]

Lol, no. Beyond borrower checker, Rust doesn't have much that is interesting. Rust is currently experiencing a bubble, and we all know what happens with bubbles.

[@darukutsu]

@@fungussa so what is future then?

[@fungussa]

​@@darukutsu Rust has borrowed many features from Go, and similarly other languages will borrow from Rust. I think that Rust is currently over-hyped (it's in a kind of bubble), and since the language creators haven't been rigorous in their approach to designing the language, that its rough edges will only be fixed by further language changes down the line. Invest where you think the future will be.

[@baxiry.]

@@fungussa agree

[@baxiry.]

@@darukutsu zig for low level , go for else

[@doomguy6296]

Most wasted 2:51 minutes of the day

[@soyitiel]

It compiled to *_hello.they_*