Is Shrouded Fable The Worst Specialty Set In A Loong Time?

What is up all you Pokémon maniacs out there! PikiPikaPapa is back and Asking the question Is Shrouded Fable The Worst Specialty Set In A Loong Time? Scarlet & Violet has already gifted us with some amazing sets but in this video I'm seriously questioning is Shrouded Fable will be the next Great one or one big BUST. This should come as no surprise but I do a ton of research and deep dives into Pokémon products before I do my videos and this ask of Is Shrouded Fable The Worst Specialty Set In A Loong Time is no different! We are going to talk about and look at singles from specialty sets like Scarlet & Violet 151, Paldean fates, Celebrations, Champions Path, Hidden Fates and all of the others going back to 2019. So the question remains as we look at Shrouded Fables... Is Shrouded Fable The Worst Specialty Set In A Loong Time? Let me know your thoughts in the comments down below!!
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[@PikaPikaPapa]

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[@tylerwilson4463]

@@PikaPikaPapa when will you get some mediums in stock?

[@nicknguyen8979]

no one said this yet, but that thumbnail is CRAZYY

[@StonedReaper23]

Koga vibes!

[@johnmccrary6701]

His thumbnails lately have been nuts 🔥

[@brian1371]

Haha true 😎

[@PikaPikaPapa]

Yesss, thank you for noticing!! All credit goes to BaTeamPlayer for helping with the designs. The man is a genius!!

[@bATeamPlayer]

Appreciate the love yall! More bangers to come! PPP 🤜🤛 TP

[@IanLazar]

Crown zenith is gonna go down as the best modern set

[@tylerwilson4463]

I agree , I've been buying as much as I can to keep sealed.

[@IneptCardCollector]

Best for....?

[@IanLazar]

@@IneptCardCollector both collecting and investing of course. I don’t think anyone can deny the sheer amount of beautiful arts that are in this set. It’s a very obvious play to make from both sides of the aisle.

[@SimplyEricc]

It's the most beautiful set for sure. Objectively.

[@RyanChann]

@@SimplyEriccit’s nice art! But still subjective!

[@blizzliftie]

I think Shrouded Fable is intended for upgrading the TCG meta, the artwork is just a bonus! Another great video, thanks!

[@PikaPikaPapa]

Totally agree its a play driven set and I think that's really really cool too!! Love that we can enjoy the Pokemon space in so many different ways!! Great call out my friend!

[@MaxPowerTCG]

Great analysis comparing the top two hits of each set! Initially I was super bullish on this set, but I think the biggest part of it will be the Greninja + Kingdra promos with that absolute fire artwork. Contemplating whether to keep the case preorder of PC ETBs or pivot. Decisions, decisions...

[@PikaPikaPapa]

Thanks my friend, I really worry about a set where the "chase" looks to be a trainer card. They just don't carry the value that they did a year or so ago. I am pumped for that Greninja card though.. that thing is gonna be FIRE!!

[@craytown_usa]

Your kids are very lucky to have you as a dad! Cool discussions

[@PikaPikaPapa]

Appreciate you my friend, I love talking Pokemon!! I'm equally lucky to have them as my kiddos, they are 10X cooler then I am 😂😂😂

[@AtownGoods]

Awesome break down my guy! CZ top 3 ultra-modern set just nothing but bangers most importantly its fun to open

[@PikaPikaPapa]

I agree, I have so many fond memories of opening CZ with my kids and it was just stunning card after stunning card!! An all time set for sure!! Great call out!!

[@Eduardo_GRS]

100% agree. Man, that Greninja ex promo card is so much better looking than any of the top 20 cards in the set, in my opinion. And it’s not even close!

[@PikaPikaPapa]

Totally agree!!! I cannot wait to get my hands on it!!!

[@actionfigurearchive9002]

Thank you for doing the video. Especially while you were away. Is there a reason why only the top two cards were pulled for pricing? I know these are typically smaller sets so it’s hard to go deep without the prices falling off the cliff. But from an investment standpoint, how deep should the card pool be to gauge the strength of the set?. Should we be looking more at percentage rather than Card quantity. (5% of set count). Because each set has different number of cards.

[@PikaPikaPapa]

AWESOME question!!!! So for this video, since we were looking at so many sets in rapid fire, we just hit on the top 2 BUT we've done a ton of deep data dives in the past and believe it or not the best indicator so far for strength of a set has been what I called the "middle 16". So you take the top 20 cards and pull the top 2 and bottom 2 from it and calculate the average of those middle 16 cards then use it as a ratio vs the current BB price. The higher the % of the middle 16 vs the BB price the more aggressive price growth we have seen. Now I haven't done a fresh look like that in a long time but your question has me thinking we should do a fresh data dive to see if that premise still holds true!! Great question!!

[@brian1371]

Still doubting on getting the ETB but def going for that Greninja (and Kingdra) ex. That artwork is 🔥

[@PikaPikaPapa]

Couldn't agree more!!! That wood art is INSANE!!

[@rockinthebunny1392]

Yeah I definitely agree that it's not looking like a great set to grab and hold. I maybe want like 3 cards from the set which is good cause I can send my money to other sets. Haha but that Greninja box is fricken beautiful. I also really love the artwork and I will have it as well. I'm not sure if you see that the blue spiral is actually Greninja's shiriken that's hes throwing. But anyways, I love that box and I can't wait for the Kingdra box either.

[@PikaPikaPapa]

LOL Love that you turn the lemon into lemonade with the whole "glad it's not great so I can save some money for once" vibe.... Classic!!! Also, yeah that Greninja is next level and I am PUMPED to get my hands on it!!

[@timw8778]

The houndoom looks decent

[@PikaPikaPapa]

I do like the almost grey scale way the art is!!! Good call out!!!

[@tredici72]

The Greninja & Kingdra ex full art promos are beautiful, I preordered two sets of both, one set to keep sealed and the other two to open up for the promos. Top stuff Pika🤙

[@PikaPikaPapa]

Awesome strategy my friend!!! Love the idea of one to open and one to keep sealed. I might do the exact same thing myself!! I appreciate you!!

[@erik1993]

The art reminds me of those early 90's cartoons like Batman The Animated Series which I loved as a kid so I'm already hyped for it.

[@PikaPikaPapa]

I didn't think of it like that, super cool!!!

[@samersalama6275]

This is a players set but it’s difficult to see this set explode. I want the promos the most but I want the Cassiopeia as well. Maybe this is for the new gen kids that grow up on Paldea.

[@PikaPikaPapa]

Totally agree on the player's set vibe and think that's a great way to describe it!! I'll get the promos for sure and if the Cassiopeia drops like a rock I'll snag one or two of them as well. Awesome call out!!

[@lKINGl]

Am I crazy for getting a sealed case of the collection box and NOT the etb 😅

[@PikaPikaPapa]

Nope, not crazy in the least!! Those things are awesome!!!

[@LegendsCardShop]

Yes as a collector I preordered the Pokemon center ETBs but once I found out the Greninja card is a promo I canceled my order.

[@PikaPikaPapa]

The Greninja card is absolute fire!!! I'm so pumped to get my hands on it!!!

[@PokeWub]

Problem is, it’s probably not going to impact gameplay very much either.

[@PikaPikaPapa]

Sadly, sounds like it might be a total L all together then :(

[@MrGuitarfreak132]

This set is definitely not going to do as well as others. The best cards (greninja you showed and the Kingdra promo) aren’t even in the set. They’re promos! Lol. It’s a sad set I think. I will be getting the houndoom and those two promos. That’s it for me.

[@IneptCardCollector]

Same

[@PikaPikaPapa]

Same for me but that Greninja looks sooooo freaking awesome!! It won't carry too much value but I want that bad boy in a PSA 10 sooo badly!!!

[@MrGuitarfreak132]

@@PikaPikaPapa totally agree! I really want the Kingdra promo in a 10 too! That art is fire!! Both promos are the best cards of the set lol!

[@cryptomon86]

pc etbs. They are slowing down prints quite possibly until team rocket

[@PikaPikaPapa]

Music to my ears!!! Thanks for the info my friend!!

[@johnkim9086]

ninja today!

[@PikaPikaPapa]

Ninja Mode ENGAGED!!

[@PokeMartin]

Falls a little short? I think you meant a lot short…

[@PikaPikaPapa]

Bwahaha... well.... I tried to be kind :)

[@SimplyEricc]

I haven't spent a dime on Twilight Masquerade and I'm definitely not spending a dime on Shrouded Fable. I have NO interest whatsoever. Save your monies for the upcoming bangers

[@b1gpapan3cr04]

Yes! The dragon set, team rocket, tera eeveelutions, SV is about to heat up. Will be hard to top PE and 151 tho

[@PikaPikaPapa]

Totally agree that S&V is about to POP THE HECK OFF!!! Really wise call out to put away your nickels for the upcoming heat!!

[@Probasaur]

The set badly needs the special arts that were ripped out for the collection boxes. Greninja and Kingdra SIRs shoulda been kept in the set. Pkmn knew their collection boxes were not going to sell on strength of the set alone. so they put these front and center knowing full well it would boost preorder sales through the roof. But the set itself suffers quite a bit. Did we know what was in the Japanese set when preorders went up for those collection boxes ? or did pkmn pull a fast one and make sure those pre orders went up first before anyone knew what was in the set and all we saw were those promos? Crown Zenith was more than capable of handling the legendary bird Galarian gallery cards becoming tin promos. Might end up being good for short term sales but long term for set as a whole will suffer. Ofc pkmn are not concerned with long term secondary market growth

[@PikaPikaPapa]

I agree it would have been a game changer if those promo cards were in the set. I'm pumped for that Japanese wood artwork and think those cards will be stunners!! I agree it's odd that they don't have any of those in the set itself. Maybe they are teasing for some in the future?

[@craigchapman2386]

Sent you an email to the address in your description :)

[@PikaPikaPapa]

Awesome!! I've been on vacation but just got back and am catching up so I'll take a peek!! thank you!!

[@keithwelch8563]

Basically if your like me mid 30’s and talking Pokemon were basically the boomers of Pokemon and we may not like many of the sets but the kids are loving it Twilight Masquerade is a good example it had mad hate prelaunch now it’s probably the best S&V sets

[@TheSnackAttackingSnorlax]

I like twilight…. And shrouded fable is dog doo! There’s like…. 3-5 cards I want , MAX! I won’t be opening a single pack. Twilight has like 10-15 cards I want and I opened a few BB

[@PikaPikaPapa]

Holy crud you are spot on my friend (except I'm mid 40's so I'm a generation behind you). I wasn't a huge TM fan and now I'm like whelp, I missed on that one!!! I gotta try and get my Gen Z hat on a bit LOL

[@KINGK0HL]

S&V is getting worse and worse… 🤷‍♂️

[@PikaPikaPapa]

I think this is a low before it takes off!!! lots of intriguing sets on the horizon!!

[@unclen2479]

Def agree, it misses the mark. That greninja goes absolutely crazy though

[@PikaPikaPapa]

That Greninja card looks sooo amazing!!! I'm pumped to get my hands on it!!

[@skyscraper5910]

whats shrouded fable? you mean Stellar Crown? Twilight Masquerade is the set that is out and Stellar Crown is the one pmk is currently the set that is "new" and pmk is taking preorders for.

[@keithwelch8563]

On Pokemon Center it under the elite trainer box link

[@skyscraper5910]

@@keithwelch8563 im just making a joke about how quickily they are dropping sets.

[@chexnfx7161]

Shrouded Fable is next

[@skyscraper5910]

@@chexnfx7161 I thought eevees with hats on are next. or was it team rocket eevees with hats on? or big crystal turtle?

[@chexnfx7161]

@@skyscraper5910 think that’s the Tera set around end of year?

[@Poket-Mnstr]

lol you are doing what Krystal collects does for her KZbin video put yourself in a trainer body lol

[@PikaPikaPapa]

All thumbnail credit goes to BaTeamPlayer!! He whips these up and as far as I'm concerned is the best in the biz!! They are so cool!!!

[@starvvoy]

Worst specialty set ever

[@PikaPikaPapa]

Yeah, sadly I've gotta agree!!

[@tylerwilson4463]

The whole scarlet and violet is the worst

[@labutter420]

It's amazing what do you mean?? Illustration rare and SIRs are amazing lol

[@b1gpapan3cr04]

SV block 1 going into block 2 is THE STRONGEST showing of any era to date. They finally broke the cycle of feeding us garbage until mid block 2 and started off with a bang. The SV era has more cards above 5$, 10$ (probably more price increment marks too) this early in its life than any other era. This era will go down in history as one of the all time best, once the SM/SwSh alt art hype ends. I suspect they are limiting print runs/reprints now as well which will only add to its collectability. One day in the near future these sets are gonna skyrocket well beyond SwSh

[@PikaPikaPapa]

In time we shall see!! i think there are some bangers and a few misses but it will be interesting to see how it all plays out!!

[@carynbest7380]

This set is awful

[@PikaPikaPapa]

Yeah, sadly not a lot that I'm excited about either :(

[@MaelthasDivine]

F off with the negativity.

[@PikaPikaPapa]

That's what we are known for here is gobs of negativity!! 😂😂