Is Spoke Interlacing Important? | Tech Tuesday

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@BrianWarkentine
@BrianWarkentine Жыл бұрын
A man for his time. Reminds me of the years The Dude actually had a booth at Sea Otter and you could come in and chat about the carpet.
@JeffCowan
@JeffCowan Жыл бұрын
The winner is the Spinergy guy that took account of the failure scenario in addition to the working benefits.
@een_schildpad
@een_schildpad Жыл бұрын
I was kinda on the fence until he mentioned failure, but that really is a good mark in favor of interlace.
@Brant_Moore
@Brant_Moore Жыл бұрын
I love that you guys did this!! These types of videos are so much fun
@baldomiglecz2520
@baldomiglecz2520 Жыл бұрын
I've tried both on my bmx bike where the wheels face a lot of lateral force. I prefer over-over-under, because it kinda breaks the vibration of the spokes when landing sideways and makes a lot less noise. Haven't noticed any difference in strength tho and I can say I'm heavy on my bike.
@jamesmcpherson3924
@jamesmcpherson3924 Жыл бұрын
That Shimano tech is an actual mechanic legend. Can’t remember his name but the dude has done a lot for the industry
@kaltonian
@kaltonian Жыл бұрын
wow....amazing so many have different opinions on laced wheel sets, only 2 guys came across as to why they do what they do and seemed to fully understand why...... over over under at the very least for me, but does depend which discipline the wheel will be used for, that lateral strength and confinement of breaks due to style of laced wheel opted for is something to bare in mind, thanks Kelvin m8, great simple question....like an elephant in the room m8
@johnsmith1474
@johnsmith1474 Жыл бұрын
You are imagining things. There were few opinions not many, & none of these guys had any data, just an opinion (and everyone was selling). Nobody has any proof to support their opinon, none said, "We have measured and ...." The most valid reason given was Shimano's, "... cuz that's what everyone does" the rest were bullshit. The only lesson here is, people (like you) imagine things and imprint it onto what they think they heard.
@masaharumorimoto4761
@masaharumorimoto4761 Жыл бұрын
I had a catastrophic rear wheel failure and did notice the interlacing helped stop a complete obliteration.
@mattgies
@mattgies Жыл бұрын
I didn't have "Park Tool does an homage to 'The Big Lebowski' " on my bingo card, but here we are. As for myself, I interlace. I started that way because that's what everybody else does, and continued when it occurred to me that it allows one spoke to keep some tension on the other if it starts to go slack.
@palangimiko
@palangimiko Жыл бұрын
Over-over-under. Because that's what they say to do in the Park Tool wheel building series, so that's what I did and it worked.
@coenmolyneaux9672
@coenmolyneaux9672 Жыл бұрын
Makes my day when parktool posts
@EriebyCycle
@EriebyCycle Жыл бұрын
I hope you follow this up with data in the next video to explain to us hacks.
@brabrabarabra
@brabrabarabra Жыл бұрын
this is just a fantastic video. and I love shimano's answer :D
@Frank-mn4hx
@Frank-mn4hx Жыл бұрын
I like that my bike's wheels are interlaces. That gives it a better look. It can squeek but, i feel that interlaced wheels can be stronger.
@Naomi_Boyd
@Naomi_Boyd Жыл бұрын
I need to upgrade my solid axles to quick release, but I can only find one video on how to do that. It's not a Park Tool video either. It's just some guy in his garage. Can we get some videos on axle upgrades please? And what even is a thru axle? I hear they are all the rage now, but will they even work with my hubs? I need Calvin's expertise por favor. I'm lost in a forest of threaded skewers.
@parktool
@parktool Жыл бұрын
Good topics, will add these to the list. You can convert to a quick release style, but thru axles take a different hub design as well as different fork/frame dropout design.
@rttm
@rttm Жыл бұрын
I think over over under gives little extra clearance for derailleur and brake calipers.
@paisfr
@paisfr Жыл бұрын
Thank you Calvin 😊
@jessesherman9946
@jessesherman9946 Жыл бұрын
I'd love to see you guys build two identical wheels and stress test them in a lab. You guys are fixing with my while reality here after 30 years of wheel building! 😕
@gnatman1102
@gnatman1102 Жыл бұрын
Did you take bets on the over/under to interlace or not interlace?
@pauljames1978
@pauljames1978 Жыл бұрын
Even with Bmx wheels over over under with 3 cross 🔥👍🚲💨
@ELITECMDR666
@ELITECMDR666 Жыл бұрын
honest question, how long should it take a shop to cut / rethread spokes, lace and true a wheel?
@parktool
@parktool Жыл бұрын
This is very dependent on what resources the shop has. A shop that has a professional threading machine can cut and thread spokes for an entire wheel in less than 30 minutes. Then building/lacing and tensioning can take up to an hour. So, upwards of 1.5 hours per wheel.
@woodmt.5548
@woodmt.5548 Жыл бұрын
Is it narrated by Ben? That sounds great!
@HYP3RK1NECT
@HYP3RK1NECT Жыл бұрын
Depende de las necesidades del terreno y el ciclista. Si la ruta o entrenamiento es agresivo o no.
@timshelhamer7374
@timshelhamer7374 Жыл бұрын
Jobst Brandt who literally wrote the book on bike wheels says “interlaced spokes take up each other’s slack during severe radial loading and reduce the chances of spokes becoming loose”. Whatever jobst says is good enough for me.
@johnsmith1474
@johnsmith1474 Жыл бұрын
Translation: given no data, I go by personality of the commenter. Btw locktite reduces the "chances" of connectors loosening.
@-BuddyGuy
@-BuddyGuy Жыл бұрын
​@@johnsmith1474Credentials are not the same as personality. If data is what you need go get it yourself.
@KarlosEPM
@KarlosEPM Жыл бұрын
Cool topic. Quite advanced though.
@garyseckel295
@garyseckel295 Жыл бұрын
Video needed visual depictions!
@David..
@David.. Жыл бұрын
Bicycling Frank Zappa rules. Used to watch his video on measuring chains every time I changed a chain.
@farizrd
@farizrd Ай бұрын
I love shimano's answer 😂
@85bigGMC
@85bigGMC Жыл бұрын
What about braided spokes?
@WelisonSalustiano-iz2kw
@WelisonSalustiano-iz2kw Жыл бұрын
Calvin meu amigo,❤🇧🇷🇧🇷🇧🇷🚴🚴🚴🧰👩‍🔧🛠️⚙️⚙️🔧
@romanpramuka2703
@romanpramuka2703 Жыл бұрын
To interlace or not to interlace, that is the question 😅
@parktool
@parktool Жыл бұрын
We've asked the same thing! kzbin.info/www/bejne/Y5e7ZqB3hN99jLc&lc=Ugx8g1X0Hn9P2-Usy6t4AaABAg
@Omnis2
@Omnis2 Жыл бұрын
Trackies be like front or back?
@buckroger6456
@buckroger6456 Жыл бұрын
Sort of a funny skit here. I've always seen 3 crossed on Mtb and 2 or no cross on road.
@wallaceman105
@wallaceman105 Жыл бұрын
I was just watching the last video about interlacing
@MdBoj
@MdBoj Жыл бұрын
Nice 😅
@billkallas1762
@billkallas1762 Жыл бұрын
If 2x and 3x is good, how about 36 hole 4x on a large flange rear wheel?
@KarlosEPM
@KarlosEPM Жыл бұрын
Spokes start interfering with other spokes's heads, and the projection of the spoke is no longer as tangential. There is little to gain. From what I've read, there isn't any real benefit. At this point, it is better to add more spokes: 36 or even 40. Also consider thicker spokes.
@garrysekelli6776
@garrysekelli6776 Жыл бұрын
What about under under over? Or over under over etc... I think there r 9 possible outcomes.
@GeekonaBike
@GeekonaBike Жыл бұрын
Actually, it you tie & solder them it doesn't matter
@sylvainmichaud2262
@sylvainmichaud2262 Жыл бұрын
I think that _over over under_ is the *bare minimum to avoid a boring sex life.*
@johnsmith1474
@johnsmith1474 Жыл бұрын
Play at 1.5x or go out of your mind.
@christophecontant4856
@christophecontant4856 Жыл бұрын
😂👍👌
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