Is Stuttering While Shooting Caused By This Tweak?.. | Memory Compression Live Testing in Tarkov

[@klemintime1452]

🎩 Join The Business Club! discord.gg/EYQmYejx7U Because I didn't really mention it in the video, I wanted to make sure I made this clear here: Memory Compression does exactly what it means- it compresses data in RAM if it is "infrequently used" (as determined by Windows). Seems like people's skepticism of this setting made them fly too close to the sun. Let me know if this was the source of your stutters and also if you have stutters similar! I want to fully get to the bottom of why some people are getting this issue, and I only can with your help :) Commands (after launching Powershell in administrator mode): Checking Memory Compression: get-mmagent Enabling Memory Compression: enable-mmagent -mc Disabling Memory Compression: disable-mmagent -mc

[@deejay0009]

you didn't show us the comparison of it being enabled on streets, are your frametimes better? no more stuttering even with ram cleaner on? Thank you for the video regardless and much love!

[@klemintime1452]

@@deejay0009 The reason I didn't is because I saw such drastic bugs with it off that I figured it was not necessary to do the comparisons- the result was *quite* clear from just running it a couple times that it was causing massive stutters, including when I shot.

[@deejay0009]

@@klemintime1452 ok holy shit ive never hit 110 fps on streets nto even during snow patch but now im 80 stable in busy areas and hitting 100 on less busy ones. insane that turning this settign on really does change stuff that much. Thank u very much as always klem!

[@NOVAScOoT]

Hey, the video says commands will be in the description and pinned comment but aren't in either. Could we get those?

[@klemintime1452]

@@NOVAScOoT I KNEW I WAS FORGETTING SOMETHING! Give me one minute, and thanks 🙏

[@Hldv12]

This guy is like the doctors of tarkov

[@mezcalineboy]

😂

[@kathelsupreme1152]

Compression usually uses some CPU cycles to compress and some CPU cycles to decompress. So the results may very depending on the CPU type and utilisation, so your mileage may very. But its an interesting point to check out, while chasing more frames.

[@BackwardsPancake]

Yeah, that's what I'm wondering: If you have a system with a lot of RAM that you otherwise never fully utilize, would it be better to disable compression?

[@revoke1]

You the goat. Always wondered how some people have it on yet didnt get crazy stutters

[@jarnolaaksonen1931]

One of the best "tweaks" is reinstall windows like once an year or so! Thank you this video dude! Keep the good content coming!👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼

[@klemintime1452]

Honestly true, doing a fresh install is always nice (or even doing stuff like sfc /scannow to ensure all the windows files are set correctly).

[@jarnolaaksonen1931]

Yeah sfc /scannow never hurts one of the best commands u can do to your pc! I recently reinstalled win11 and the difference is quite big to compared to my 3year old installation 😎

[@ArmagedonCS]

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[@samualka7646]

I have 1 SSD where Windows Is installed and 2 hard disks that i use for heavier games and for saving clips, videos ... How can i reinstall Windows without touching those hard disks?

[@samuraiiv5683]

Fresh install fixed my stutter and freezes while shooting I have a amd gpu

[@olzhassamatov5776]

Hey, thanks for the video. I am one of those players who have manually DISABLED this feature a while ago following some youtubers advice (believe it was panjo) among other windows tweaks proposed in his videos. I run i7 6860k @4.1 ghz, 32gb ram, gtx 1080 8gb. Tbh, i feel like disabling mem comp actually fixed my stutters and made my game run smoother, tbh. I am not sure 100% as there were other changes implemented simultaneously. However i still run like 60-70 fps on customs, with some nasty fps drops on interchange, reserve and shoreline. Occasional fps spikes up to 100-120 when i face any direction where there no pmcs. Funny thing is in online raids when i face a direction and see 20-40 fps dip I can quite confidently say that there pmcs or scav players in that direction:). Anyways, thanks for the video! P.S. i have left my application to participate in your pc sherpa videos. Would be glad to discuss this with you in the near future, should you choose me as your next guinea pig for the video🤗🤗🤗

[@klemintime1452]

Glad to hear that helped. As of now I'm still trying to figure out the circumstances/builds in which having it off vs on can help, but as more people see this video I'll be able to get a better bearing. As of now we're thinking that page filing might be playing a part but we'll keep working on it! 👍

[@epicgamer09075]

Fixed my issues. keep it up man love the video's

[@itsCALZONE]

great video man !!

[@drewsuhferr]

good stuff my guy!

[@SupSheepey]

Everyone asks me why my streets runs like such garbage even after i just full reinstalled Tarkov/Arena or any folder related to the game. This was the fix. Thank you so much dude

[@SupSheepey]

I literally hopped out of bed here at 3am because I've been searching for a fix to my streets FPS, followed your instructions and saw immediate almost double the 30 - 40 framerate I was getting before

[@klemintime1452]

@@SupSheepey awesome! I knew it would be helpful to at least some people 🎉

[@pyrosupreme4473]

I can't seem to disable memory compression. It just returns "Disable-MMAgent : Invalid namespace At line:1 char:1 + Disable-MMAgent -mc" Any idea why it's not working? I'm running powershell as admin as well

[@Czar1249]

I've experienced major stutter in raid while shooting once or twice with my NVidia GPU. I'm gonna send this vid to my friend who always complains of shit performance in tarkov and see how it goes for him!

[@nop2where]

Also i would like to add , my ram usage in medium texture is 18-19 (overall) at the start of street raid, it can go to 26 (still overall pc ram) playing high texture is even worst because it cause me microstutters at 30gb of 31 used.

[@B4RDOCKTTV]

sick video as usual the goat has spoken, one more thing, can you also clarify the core isolation setting in windows settings? is it worth turning it off for EFT ? any idea?

[@klemintime1452]

As far as I remember, it's fine to have it off for marginal gains, but it's normally anything crazy. The "memory integrity" setting is the only one you can disable, but I haven't heard anyone get any insane gains from it. I run it off. (I can expand on this more, I am just replying to this as I'm going to bed so my memory isn't the best xd)

[@RichardMaddock]

I have never suggested another YTer to anyone, but since all of your tweeking has got me thinking, and I saw this video from @Panjno about latency and locking frames to improve FPS performance. I am sure you have watched this because you are so informed. But just a suggestion from your latest video. Coach Maddog (owner of Jesse Kazam's Pizza Oven) from two weeks ago.

[@klemintime1452]

Locking FPS can definitely make it feel smoother, but you need to lock in what number you can hit consistently in order for it to work. If you want you can @ me in discord with the specific video and I can give you more detailed thoughts 👍

[@cratenoob]

I swapped to amd gpu from nvidia and had un playable stutters. I fixed it by deleting my old nvidia drivers.

[@mendelganz]

in my pc was disabled as default and i didn't have any stutters i run a 13900k, 32gb 6400ddr5, 3080 10gb 3440x1440, I will try with enable and see how it goes.

[@klemintime1452]

Do let me know how it goes!

[@doctorcarta]

What software are you using in the top left corner, and do you have a video on how you set it up? Thanks

[@klemintime1452]

CapFrameX! I do not have a video on it as of now but there are a decent amount of guides online. However, I have my own personal profile that I made that is not part of the default setup. Once you set it up, feel free to ping me in the discord and I can drop the file there for you to use and modify :)

[@RoyalBack]

So should I run auto ram cleaner with the compression enabled or should I disabled auto ram cleaner? I didnt quite get that

[@klemintime1452]

It depends on what feels smoothest for you. For me, memory compression on with ARC On is the best for memory consumption without stutters. Others I've talked to in my discord have had different experiences though, hence why I decided to push this out so quick. My guess is that the default setting may be best, but experiment and see if you see the same behavior I was seeing. TLDR: There is no clear "set it to this mode" right now.

[@CertifiedArab]

Should i enable/disable memory question with 8gb of ram?My pc is *very* bad so at this point im just doing process of elimination to remove as many issues as i can from my shitty computer and in game as possible to atleast try to have my skill be the reason i die, not freezing the second i try to shoot someone at point blank range.

[@gavincolonese3394]

Brother 16gb ram is under 100 dollars in 2024

[@jamesmcdaniel5094]

Are you in the US?

[@gavincolonese3394]

@@jamesmcdaniel5094 yes

[@klemintime1452]

Leave memory compression ON and ENABLE Automatic RAM cleaner. That *should* be the ideal situation for your PC.

[@joesears7116]

Thanks for the video. I believe I disabled mine awhile ago and have been having occasional micro stutters recently. Interestingly I was playing last night and I was full freezing up during some fights. I also use auto ram cleaner. Is there a reason it has got significantly worse recently? I run a nvidia gpu btw.

[@klemintime1452]

This is exactly what I was seeing with it off and with Auto RAM Cleaner on. My theory is that the game, without memory compression, is accidentally culling assets and data that it needed. This forces the game to "pause" to go and retrieve that data before continuing (causing that hard "stutter" you feel when shooting or traversing the map).

[@SmithyD86]

7800X3D, GeForce 3080, 32BG RAM -- only Streets Stutters for me and only since that rollback patch a month or so ago. Mine is set to TRUE with Ram Cleaner on. Ram Cleaner on/off doesn't make any difference, I still stutter. Not sure this is going to help eveyone.

[@domenicoscalise9999]

I have a 3080, 17-11700 and 64GB of ram but I keep having stutters and latency of 25ms. I tried to follow each of your videos but I can't find any solutions. I just discovered that I already have this option enabled (MC) I will try to deactivate it to see if anything changes! Thanks for your commitment

[@klemintime1452]

Disabling it might make it worse as seen in the video, but feel free to try it! I'll be continuing to find more reasons for this issue as time passes so stay tuned o7

[@Kroete]

ill give it a try, i had it disabled before.

[@ryanloney3448]

Jesus christ man, ive never changed mem comp setting mever knew about it, but those stutters look like my issue, I’m trying this after work tonight

[@klemintime1452]

LMK how it goes!

[@chrisjsimmons2698]

This didn't fix it for me sadly. I've noticed that my stutters are when a gun fires for the first time. The audio of a 'new' gunshot in raid causes my game to completely lock up. So depending on each new gun being used, it can happen multiple times a raid.

[@klemintime1452]

I've definitely noticed this as well. Seems to be an issue with the game fetching values it needs for calculation as it "realizes" it needs to obtain that information. We'll see how the next patch addresses that (if it does)

[@southwestendz1022]

i noticed near the end of raids or whenever i went to the new area in shoreline i would get stutters alot this wipe

[@TheMrDaniel128]

I get stutters on tarkov pretty bad but having this setting either way felt the same to me. Any suggestions?

[@someduudee]

Gonna try that :D Do you have any tips on flickering shadows in the distance? Most notably on woods and shoreline, when its a sunny day. Got my shadows and object quality to medium, but experience still heavy flickering at shadows that are more than 50m away. Makes it really hard to spot people moving in the distance

[@ktuky3008]

Same problem here

[@klemintime1452]

Your anti-aliasing may help with that. I've had a lot of people ask me about this and I'm honestly not too sure how to recreate it. Maybe on stream tonight or on Sunday I'll take some time to try and find this issue so I can better figure out how to fix it. Remind me if you can 🤞

[@ktuky3008]

@@klemintime1452 antialiasing doesn't help, when i use supersampling on 2x the resolution of shadows on distance seems better and they flicker less

[@someduudee]

@@klemintime1452 Thanks for your answer. Unfortunately anti aliasing doesnt really help, the shadow flickering gets better when AA is turned off, but the game looks too pixelated and noisy :/ I could only figure out that FSR makes this issue worse, but without FSR I get kinda low frames, so I have to use that ^^

[@klemintime1452]

If i had to guess then, that flicker is from the game's antialiasing implementation. Its not uncommon. Often people fix it by running DLDSR And DLSS (as seen in some of my videos) but without that its really tough to fix. You'll need TAA for FSR as well, so sadly as far as I know youre stuck with it unless there is a way to externally apply some more antialiasing.@@someduudee

[@mejdlocraftci]

you using 5.1 audio or something? game sounded weird. It sounded like when you enable the new Windows spacial sound feature or whatever it is.

[@klemintime1452]

All I have is 7.1 Surround Sound set up for my headset via GHub and then binaural on. Don't worry though, you're not the first one who thought it sounded a bit weird lol

[@RedDevilGamingBRiB]

Was the comment about the AMD GPUS's a slight against them? I was planning on switching from an intel/nvidia setup that I currently have to a full AMD set but I haven't read enough people test if there's a benefit to Nvidia over AMD when it comes to Tarkov.

[@klemintime1452]

Yes in part- as we *originally* thought stuttering while shooting was an AMD driver issue. Some people have had issues with AMD driver support (particularly at the higher end) but generally, I see no issue buying AMD for most users. Their drivers have definitely improved over the past half-decade or so. Also definitely check out pyurologie's channel- he has benchmarks for a ton of GPUs (granted he uses upscaling for them) so you'll be able to try and get a range for performance if you have the CPU power to spare.

[@Wdbjr12345]

I have the 7800xtx and amd drivers are goofy but it runs tarkov extremely well.

[@RedDevilGamingBRiB]

@@Wdbjr12345 can you explain by "goofy?" Just the GPU driver or CPU as well?

[@RedDevilGamingBRiB]

@@klemintime1452 Thank you, I'll look at their channel.

[@nexzuis]

@@RedDevilGamingBRiBI have a 7950X3D and 7900xtx and my game runs smooth as butter

[@ultimaweapon9764]

Nvidia side here. Ryzen 7 7800X3D - RTX 4090 Suprim X - 64 GB Ram DDR5 6000Mhz CL30 - Windows 11 Pro. Memory compression “True”, switched to “False” and restart. Use more Ram memory but looks like night and day on Streets. Many thanks Klem! P. S.: I’ve set HBAO “High” and SSR “Ultra” and seems i’ve lowed the load on CPU and rised it for the GPU, even better for performances.

[@zoriiginalx7544]

What’s your shadows setting and AA?

[@ultimaweapon9764]

@@zoriiginalx7544 Shadows Low and TAA High

[@ultimaweapon9764]

@@zoriiginalx7544 Shadows "Low" and TAA "High"

[@bredrin4146]

nice as usual, but whats the science behind it?, i tried to read about it but i didnt understand much

[@klemintime1452]

Thats a good question. I should have mentioned it more in the video, but the TLDR with mem compression is that it allows Windows to dynamically compress data in RAM that is infrequently accessed, possibly helping with RAM consumption. As far as I can see, I think having memory compression off and mixing it with Auto RAM cleaner is causing is to overclean, getting rid of assets that the game *should* have kept. When that happens, the game needs to take time (or "stutter" as we feel it) to go and fetch that needed data, causing that freeze.

[@bredrin4146]

that makes sense,thank you for your time klem,god bless@@klemintime1452

[@ZiffXGames]

So im getting something like this but its 100% of every shot xD i empty a mag on an auto and its a stutter fiesta changing the memory compression didn't work :( time to keep googling!

[@RealYosif]

doesn't binaural audio cause similar issue with the stutter?

[@klemintime1452]

Audibly yes, but I have not heard of binaural causing stutters while shooting as of yet.

[@FreakPotato]

Are these settings correctly configured? I feel like whenever I'm in combat, I experience slight lags or whenever I shoot or take hits ApplicationLaunchPrefetching : True ApplicationPreLaunch : True MaxOperationAPIFiles : 256 MemoryCompression : True OperationAPI : True PageCombining : False PSComputerName :

[@klemintime1452]

That's exactly what I have- there is someone is my discord who has it all off but I have not tampered with the other settings yet myself.

[@Wilco23]

@@klemintime1452I had everything false which I found weird because I never messed with this ever… this was prebuilt so I assume the company did this?

[@Wilco23]

@@klemintime1452whats the difference between 256 and 512 for MaxOperarionAPIFiles

[@klemintime1452]

@@Wilco23 It could be that or other optimization packs that you've used that have gone ahead and disabled all of that. Feel free to tinker but remember, google is your best friend. Always check before you change stuff!

[@AGrayKnight]

If it says “access denied” after you enter get-mmagent, what do you do then?

[@LaHyene481]

Did you start PowerShell as administrator ?

[@prestonsavaya4675]

Algorithmic commentator

[@CeeRZet]

Should I try to disable it to see if it's gonna do anything or should I just keep it on TRUE ?

[@klemintime1452]

I would just keep it on true if it was already set to that. As far as I understand, that is default, and those who have it set to false did it on the word of other optimization channels. You can feel free to try it though as I wont harm anything as is very easily re-enabled.

[@CeeRZet]

@@klemintime1452 much appreciated as always. Love to you brother !

[@nop2where]

Also i hope you can find more informations of why and how it makes microstuttering when shooting etc (for me its the case sometimes in street with 7800x3d, i've tried many many things but i still get these) and give us more details as you said at the end of the video, i would like to understand more, and i also created a reddit post sharing your video link and profile link and i hope many more can watch the video and fix their stutters when shooting, for me , sometimes (only on street) , with 7800x3d i was getting stutters or microstutters when 1 or more players were shooting at me or also when i was shooting .. i enabled this compression thing and i will give a try tomorrow and leave a new feedback. thank you

[@klemintime1452]

Thank you! If you had it disabled, I'm excited to hear back on how it feels with it enabled. As far as I understood I thought this was enabled by default. Do you remember every switching it to false? Appreciate you sharing it around 🙏

[@hitmanslo1]

i try with enabled and disabled same issue it dosent change nothing for me 7800x3d 4080

[@klemintime1452]

@@hitmanslo1 You had the shooting stutter issue with a NVidia GPU too? hm...

[@nop2where]

@@hitmanslo1 i will check today and see if its smoother when shooting

[@nop2where]

@@klemintime1452 i unfortunately not remember when i switched to disabled. if there's some tool to check the date of when i changed this option could be great

[@guccl19]

Streets is the only map my pc struggles on... the map is so inconsistent when it comes to frames :/

[@mudddoqthederp2056]

Yeah, Im averaging 85-90 fps with everythig optimized in other maps 1440p, But I cant get even stable 60 on streets, poop optimization sucks.

[@bayanaask]

in short should I enable it or disable it?

[@klemintime1452]

It depends on the system. For me it was SO MUCH better with it on, but it seems like some other find the opposite. Either way, if you have this bug with stutters, flip this setting from on to off or off to on and see if the other setting helps.

[@wettosanchez]

i have no access to use anything on powershell what can i do?

[@klemintime1452]

Was powershell launched in administrator mode?

[@EricTheShowKiller]

I get really bad stutters for my first raid on. Every single first raid for about 3 minutes i get horrible stutters. I have a 14900k and a 4090. I cant figure out the problem. Please help! Lol

[@klemintime1452]

Join our discord and make a post dude! We can check out your settings and the like to see what may be the cause.

[@krayzieegg7294]

mem comp > get-mmagent is access denied for me. why?

[@kathelsupreme1152]

Start powershell as Administror

[@Kim-iu6lc]

These "synth"-oms. Hmm... ;D

[@shadowski4783]

how do u get the fps bar on the left with the graph?

[@jimb0338]

It’s through Riva statistics tuner (generally downloaded with MSI afterburner). Under the monitoring tab in afterburner settings choose ‘frame time’ to show in OSD and select ‘text and graph’

[@shadowski4783]

thx @@jimb0338

[@Planet-Anime]

i gave up on tarkov its clear that they would rather have cheaters play the game than real players

[@Church1x1]

its cute to think that that your in WW3 yelling at the top of your lungs bout some benchmark results, meanwhile some poor soul is fighting Kaban with a PM pistol.

[@klemintime1452]

I unironically plead for my life while benchmarking in live raids and I'm not ashamed of it lmao

[@marchopkins2400]

Access denied.

[@klemintime1452]

Was powershell booted up in administrator mode?

[@marchopkins2400]

@@klemintime1452 I'll try again when can. Thanks :)

[@jimmyherman2189]

FIRST

[@pasuhk997]

enable-mmagent : Access is denied. At line:1 char:1 + enable-mmagent -mc + ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ + CategoryInfo : PermissionDenied: (PS_MMAgent:Root\Microsoft\...gent\PS_MMAgent) [Enable-MMAgent], CimEx ception + FullyQualifiedErrorId : Windows System Error 5,Enable-MMAgent I have this show up. Do you know how I can do it?

[@pasuhk997]

I am able to do it in the original admit account but not my usual account as an admit. Do you know how I get do it or it is simply impossible?

[@klemintime1452]

@@pasuhk997 Hm- there shouldn't be any issue, but I think you might be able to change the scope of any command using the "set-executionpolicy" command. I'll link you the docs for it here so you can read up on it and change it from your original admin account: learn.microsoft.com/en-us/powershell/module/microsoft.powershell.security/set-executionpolicy?view=powershell-7.4 Better yet, have you tried just changing the policy in the original admin account and seeing if that transfers over?

[@pasuhk997]

@@klemintime1452 Thanks alot I will try it out when I get home and no I don't think i have try that

[@ItsRayful]

8:27 minutes to say "uninstall old GPU drivers from other cards" You, my guy, like to hear yourself talking far too much.

[@BJack0]

Smartest youtube commenter

[@klemintime1452]

@@BJack0 Did I even mention this in the video? 💀

[@ItsRayful]

@@klemintime1452Probably not because you dont know what you are talking about and just ramble senselessly until the day is over You think I watch this trash? Im not your therapist

[@klemintime1452]

@@ItsRayful That's crazy. Well I'm glad to have some dedicated haters! Thank you for the comment friend.

[@gtVel]

@@ItsRayful okay but what points you to say this