Is Summoners War A DYING Game?

[@vanwangers]

People have been saying it's dying for years and it's still going strong tbh - most fun I have had in years recently. Even when I take a break to play other games I always find myself coming back or having it on the side, it's a game I can always rely on ~

[@TheRambossss]

Yes, it's been dying since 2014 What i mean by this is that people have been saying the game is dying since Luminencia soling giant B10 was a meta strategy

[@apertaplays]

I stopped playing this game since i realized i've been fooled. Farm, farm, farm, farm and farm and nothing userful comes from all of this. When my team is able to run giant, dragon and necro b12 or b10, they update the game and my team starts losing most of the runs. Runes are always crap and bad upgrades. So one day i started the game, looked at the screen and said: you know what? Fuck this game. I deleted my 10 years account and never came back and i feel free, i feel better.

[@michaelporrini2045]

All im gonna say is it's very rare for a mobile to celebrate a 10 year anniversary

[@TheRambossss]

Also this game offer something others deliver less: *You can leave at any time and return with minimal issue* You will never fall too behind and old method are viable

[@isaacjeanneret3533]

@TheRambossss This. I've got 2800 days on my global, probably at least 1500 of those were spent absent. I still manage to get by quite happily grinding intensely for a few months in-between breaks from the game. It also helps keep me from entirely burning out from it. I might not have an account that matches someone who grinded every day for 8 years, but I can do all the b10s in under 2mins, can clear toah, solo r5 and even compete in fighter 3 level rta with a decent win rate.

[@joshportie]

Took a 5 year break I agree

[@eLsain]

the game won't die soon, Honestly i don't play RTA anymore and it actually improve my quality of life. Summoners war become more enjoyable if I dodge RTA

[@PapiKapifan]

the cutoff after i dont know what the hell that is got me dying💀

[@benjaminmesserer2471]

11:10 They have a compensation / pity system already. We have 2/300 pieces each day of a nat5 in the daily quests. So every 150 days / 5 months we get a free nat5. Isnt this what you want?

[@Slick_Head]

Great point didn’t think to mention that.

[@shibapac4262]

Thank you for the video bro! I love summoners war and been around since 2014 solid. I just never like raid or epic seven.. I feel like the art team is too on point in order for me to play a different mobile game.

[@IkkiTousenFan28]

The art team is my favorite part of the game. Especially the transmog, which you can straight up buy or play RTA and grind PVE for the pieces. I have played Epic Seven, even though I like the anime style, I am not a fan of how limited there is of skin. Also, in SW, if you missed out a Transmog pack, starting about 2 years ago, they have been reintroducing old packs to the store permanently. I believe they update it beginning of the year. So yeah, I rather play a Dumpling Wielding unit over most Epic Seven characters.

[@krissyscott4327]

Summoners War does have its flaws but its still a fun game in my opinion. Ive been playing since 2018 & I look forward to logging on everyday to see what else I can accomplish!

[@PapiKapifan]

and also if they want to summon something new ask slick to summon it he has crazy summoning "Skills" :)

[@theredsea9666]

I think a lot of people see genshin's gacha system and get frustrated that sw doesn't have a similar system. The thing is getting scrolls in sw is so much easier than getting the premium currency in genshin. It's the same with other games, getting their premium currency is much harder than sw. We literally have scrolls thrown at us each event so obviously the system would be different. Not to mention that this system has lasted 10 years, so that means sw is doing something right. Yes, you can get very unlucky and feels really fricking bad, but that doesn't mean the game sucks and is dying. I also feel like because of how the system is, getting a nat 5 feels really good, personally, way better than getting a 5 star character in genshin. One more thing people take for granted, is how easy the game is to leave and come back to later. You won't miss out major content, sure you may miss some new released units, maybe some useful events, but it isn't like you can't get those units and it's not like missing that event is the end of the world. You can still get those new units and the rewards that the event gave can still be gotten through other ways. The most you may miss out on are probably the legendary runes and collab units. But runes can always be farmed and collab units are always re-released in SW's style. There is nothing you can truly miss out on unlike genshin. They may release a broken unit that won't have a rerun for like 6 months or the plot has gotten a new act and new artifacts are released or they may just release an entire new area with even more things to catch-up on. Now does that mean sw is better/worse than genshin? No, they are different games with different fan bases and different goals. I just think people need to realise that there is a reason why sw has lasted this long as a fricking mobile game and should cut it some slack. I still hate how I can't get an ld5 and I still hate how I open 300 ms scrolls for crap but that is just purely luck. It is what it is in the end. If you like the game, then you'll carry on playing, if you don't, then don't play XD

[@wolkeN1g]

OK, so just as a heads-up I'm SUPER new, maybe playing a bit more than 2 months or so, but what I really do _love_ about this game is that you always have something to work torwards. Be it PvE or PvP, getting happy about a new toy your pulled or mimmaxxing some other content. It's just great overall, really. I've played horrible gacha games in comparision.

[@Rival95]

I believe having a sp summon should guarantee an event summon say every other or every 3rd summon. For example, if I summon a non sp summon nat 5, then next nat 5 will give a sp summon. It could also be every third. It won't break the game. There's nothing to break at all by giving players a collab unit that they released. Also, they should release an event transcendence scroll for the 100$. I mean, you're paying 100$ lol.

[@huihuiqing2703]

Maybe they could follow how epic seven does. By summoning certain amount of scroll for the sp rate, you can 100% summon a random collab unit. Instead of spending 1xxx plus plus scroll but you only getting dupe nat5.

[@jameshayes1987]

Honestly, no. It pulls $8M a month on a bad month.

[@Slick_Head]

yea don't think they will be shutting down this money making machine anytime soon 😂

[@revenge2219]

Something u didnt note is that majority of the "active" players are bots and the "free" nat5 can be a dupe...Im not bashing the game, but this game does need a pity system

[@gabrielblox_br1395]

Minecraft casually being the worlds best game for 10 years straight 🗿

[@SweaggerRexxar]

For me SW is like a Restaurant... I might not like every Meal on the Menu but I don't have to order & eat every Meal on the Menu.

[@PapiKapifan]

i dont have the best rng myself and sure i complain about it but i do know its just luck the compony cant control your luck

[@huihuiqing2703]

Well, if the vio proc for AI don't go crazy. I am fine with the game. But might burst and smack the game if AI proc insanely.

[@Slick_Head]

lol true they have to fix the guild war/arena violent proc amounts per turn

[@huihuiqing2703]

@@Slick_Head Yeap, but there is good and bad. Good as offense can win, bad as your Def get sack. 🤣

[@hasifhakim7783]

I quit ml because of tilt, so i start replay sw because this shit aint stress lol idc nat5 or ld i just play for fun n mini distraction from life dramas

[@SampleTextReal]

I like SW cuz it pays my Rent

[@Slick_Head]

Fair 😂😂😂

[@lpcpl]

I dropped this game in 2018 because violent is unbalanced even in RTA. How 12% is bigger than 45% of my revenge in verdehille? Violent needs a rework in RTA at least. I back to the game last year, i like this game, have fun in rta but the violent procs...

[@teddnaing6851]

Summoners war is a shyt game. But it's our shyt game. It is what it is..

[@Jgonzvd]

Love Bro Slick Head ❤

[@latergator9622]

Here's a hot take, I'm not convinced a pity system would ruin the game, I'm also not convinced it would suddenly cause casual players to enjoy the game as much as they think. They're still gonna gett nat5s they don't want, and they're still gonna not farm runes.

[@latergator9622]

I feel like a lot of criticism from very vocal (and angry) people revolves around summoning as if that the end all be all of playing the game. If youre just playing this as a pokedex game, then fair enough. But the truth is you get better and stronger by farming runes, and casual players seem to barely farm or not even want to farm. (Not to mention you get more scrolls refreshing energy with crystals than you do spending that on prem packs) Pulling nat5s just opens more team comp ideas, if you haven't farmed runes you're still gonna lose/have a bad time. If you don't enjoy rune optimizing and theory crafting then youre missing a big part of what makes this game enjoyable, these two groups of people seem to have a hard time understanding eachother 😅

[@kamarrroxs4176]

My thing is, well this is more of a conspiracy, then a gripe at the game. But it feels like content creators like seanb and etc have a much higher ld rate than just a normal everyday player.

[@Slick_Head]

Yea no way to prove that and you don’t know how much they are spending behind the scenes to get more LDs to summon. But at least you can rest assured that my LD rates are the same as a normal everyday player 🫠

[@That_Borkin_Ninetales]

If I switched off or summoners war ever died, I'd likely switch to epic 7

[@potatomatop9326]

e7 would likely die first bro hahaha

[@That_Borkin_Ninetales]

@@potatomatop9326 prolly,

[@Itchy414]

I see it from both sides I'm not a hater nor lover of SW. If you look at it as a statement rather than a personal attack on both parties in the arguement they probably would reach an agreement. For example: ppl say the game is bad because after giving so much to get 400 scrolls (or how many ever scrolls), weather F2P or P2W and to get nothing is a bit devastating. What they need is sympathy rather than, "GiT GuD" which will fuel the fire to quit and call the game bad (we've all been there). If the response was, "We've all been there and can assure you it may get better over time". That would inspire people to maybe keep going. It's a softer approach, I genuinely don't think everyone is trying to offend everyone. Ppl that love the game will be offended when other call it bad. And ppl that hate the game will be offended if you defend something that's wronged them.

[@MssAKI1992]

dude that said 2k mystical and mo 5 star is lying obviously... he summoned 200 and got salty and now is over embelishing his pain... lol

[@joshportie]

As a person who generally sits on the worst part of the bell curve I concur. No way he didn't get a 5 after 2k scroll. He might have gotten dupes but he got some fives.

[@DaTLMusic]

I dont think so. I think it has the potential to for sure. The devs arent doing a lot of smart stuff lately

[@HardstyleFinatic]

Hello hero was literally sw before sw. Only real ones know about that lol

[@gameburrito2502]

*looks at comment section* Look at all the people who spent hundreds on this game and are coping lol, honestly game is not dying but it aint the same, its not attracting new people its focus on keeping the people already in, In.

[@TheLexiko]

5:27 77k? SW truly dying. Sadge. Also, You convinced me to build Grotau and I regret it.

[@DD-yz6db]

As someone who has played a lot of gacha games, SW will die. This is something whales especially need to come to terms with. Eventually all the money you spent will vanish in to thin air. This game will not be around forever. Until then just enjoy it while you got it.

[@JeffEvans-z5v]

Well I've been playing for about almost 3 months and have pulled 4ld nat 5's

[@lagronehowell]

What did you get?

[@JeffEvans-z5v]

@@lagronehowell lucifer shan ella benedict

[@Hellscollect]

suprised it's still not dead tbh, quit after 50x auto runs implemented

[@SkitZHitZ]

it should be dieing. its impossible to get to rta rune quality, its impossible to get lnd nat 5s, its even impossible to get cross over units. i pulled 9 cross over units there all the same unit its a joke, i love summoners but i dont enjoy the fact we cant enjoy new units, i dont like the fact that they dont give more a chance of us getting lnd nat 5s ive played since around launch of sw and ive only just gotten my first lnd nat 5s but i cant even rune any unit rta ready my highest speed rune is 21 speed ive been INSANELY unlucky

[@Emmap11]

yep, is dying.

[@NivenaKids]

Ded gem

[@potatomatop9326]

after 36 years of breathing here on earth... someone's finally talking about me... hahahahahaha! Summoners imo, is the greatest turn-base until Star Rail came. Hello Hero is like the first ever turn-based game? i'm not sure...

[@durant8006]

Yea I agree star rail is way better game but it's has no pvp and mostly single game.

[@potatomatop9326]

@@durant8006 summoners never had rta before. No siege, no coa, no nothing. Star Rail will get there...

[@Luca-lv8mz]

​@@potatomatop9326 i honestly don't think star rail will ever have pvp since it's supposed to be a pve game and some people enjoy that more, which i personally can't get behind since i don't see the reason to play a game with no endgame

[@potatomatop9326]

@@Luca-lv8mz i get you and the second reason why pvp won't be in hsr is the graphics but hsr is turn-based so who knows... One day we'll get pvp, i can feel it...

[@jeremythiffault4242]

2nd

[@DSS2313]

first :)

[@jannickpedersen4620]

Im tired of their events, rewards, rates and just what they give. Why? Cuz its so bad, nat4 after nat4 and trash sub on the runes. They offer so much, but everytime you get trash. Im also tired of many big sw youtubers, since the 10th ani has begun, some have gotten like 3 to 4 ld natties and others have gotten 2 since the collab. Im tired of seeing youtubers getting soooo much from com2us. So i am also feeling a distance now cuz its so ridiculous. I have gotten 1 collab nat5 among all the all att Scroll, lg scroll and ms. Just pure trash experience. Also rta, as soon you have Asian name or flag, procs after procs. The only thing that can be good is farming..becaus then i am awsy from the game 😂

[@Prost81]

Dude, stop crying

[@Luca-lv8mz]

If you actually believe into those conspiracy theories, please stop playing the game, it's not good for your brain

[@jannickpedersen4620]

@@Luca-lv8mz the fact your mom gave birth to you, shows how stained your bloodline is

[@PapiKapifan]

in the beginning of the game i think you do need some help to start off in a good way, but i also believe com2us is doing a good job with putting out events for both new and old players