Is Supersonic About To Come Back? | Rise And Fall

Concorde used to cross the Atlantic in a little over three hours. But for almost 20 years supersonic travel has been frozen in time. Now, the race to build the next high-speed airliner is back on.
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Is Supersonic About To Come Back? | Rise And Fall

[@THEJPR]

It's amazing how the same general design of Concorde is used today because those Delta wings just can't be beat.

[@MCSDorneles]

it took 480 hours of work and windtunel just to get that result. it is, prety much, a perfect design.

[@snurod]

Hey use what works/worked. The main reason I feel isn’t even safety it’s the cost of fuel vs amount of passengers. No one wants to pay 50k a ticket these days. Not even the rich.

[@Dave_Sisson]

Well the delta wings were first used on the Vulcan strategic bomber which first flew in 1949. So they were hardly new with Concorde.

[@THEJPR]

@@Dave_Sisson I didn't actually know this. Was the Vulcan capable of supersonic flight or was it mainly for stability/agility/stealth reasons?

[@dkaloger5720]

It’s ideal for supersonic flight

[@ahmadfaiz2467]

Probably gonna remain super luxury service, saving a few hours and some novelty fun isn't worth that massive price tag for regular joes like most of us.

[@starshot5172]

Yeah. I think the speed current aeroplanes are going at, is the golden spot for passenger transport. Of course different designs usings less fuel and carrying more passenger is something I hope to see soon

[@heitorcornelius]

This new tech is 70% less expensive than concorde. As soon as more companies achieve this tech, the average joes like us will be able to use it. This is the regular technology cycle… since forever

[@willybones3890]

I looked into it once to fly to Europe in '94. One way $6500

[@aenorist2431]

@@heitorcornelius Still nowhere near the fuel / mile, pilot / passenger or any other efficiency normal airlines have. You will still pay a multiple of what a normal flight on the same route costs -> its a luxury. Also a luxury that should be banned, injustifiable waste of fossil fuels.

[@jonathanjones3126]

@@heitorcornelius unless you can get a supersonic aircraft to be affordable to fly it will fail .

[@beakytwitch7905]

I used to work in Toulouse printing the illustrated parts catalogues for Concorde and Airbus. I was one of that rare breed - an Englishman who spoke French, something of a cachet for the subcontractor I worked for. Was only 20 years old.

[@joeybaseball7352]

No one cares.

[@meethindocha1824]

@@joeybaseball7352 I do

[@MyBoom112]

My grandfather helped build the concorde and I never felt so proud of him. Even have the first ever picture taken with it in the sky with all the signatures of the people that helped built it

[@fasiuddiin]

i wanna see Concorde as a child . But i also understand how market have changed. Needless to say pandemic pushed it way further.

[@bbt305]

11 minutes of known history with one minute of a technology thats been coming for a while!

[@jerry2357]

The late-1960s was a great time to be a child interested in science and technology: the Apollo programme, the first flights of Concorde and the Boeing 747 etc. Concordes were noisy, but as a teenager I lived in Lincoln and we had Vulcan bombers flying from RAF Scampton and RAF Waddington either side of the city. They used a different version of the same turbojet that Concorde used, and they were seriously noisy, especially if several were taking off together. I think it’s interesting that nearly all the Concordes built are now in museums. I visited the British pre-production testbed, which is now at the Duxford museum, three years ago, and it was fun to compare it with the Comet jet airliner (the first commercial passenger jet) which is in the same museum.

[@kaizer2k2]

the saying back then was true "the future is now"

[@depilot2035]

Hopefully one day we will be able to fly supersonic again

[@Tracertme]

The million dollar question you never answered was, how much cheaper is it being forecast to travel this way. The technology hasn’t changed one bit, but if the operating overheads come down it will be fantastic… sure people will use it. Just like people buy Rolls Royce or Bentley when a Toyota will do. But Concorde will always be the best….

[@numtot2172]

Actually the technology has changed quite a lot

[@Tracertme]

@@numtot2172 so apart from analogue instruments to digital and no doubt a lot more electrical solenoids for mechanical replacement none of which is necessarily better just cheaper what’s the underlying core technology uplift?

[@Thebreakdownshow1]

I would love to be in a concord just to feel the acceleration.

[@jayy.cls6]

You and me both, pal

[@TalesOfGod]

Wouldn't that be a lot of G force for a person? Wouldn't it make you sick?

[@mamax7169]

@@TalesOfGod i think it wouldn't accelerate that fast, because there are passengers on it

[@olorin3815]

It would probably feel the same as flying in a normal plane just takes longer to accelerate concorde was a luxury plane doubt they would make all those rich ppl feel too uncomfortable

[@Thebreakdownshow1]

@@olorin3815 LOL that's when you slip the pilot a 100 lol

[@____-no3gn]

And it flew to Barbados. We actually have one of the Concordes here at our airport!!

[@stijnhs]

Simple answer to the question posted in the title of the video: no. Airlines don't look at speed nowadays but instead at fuel consumption per seat at which supersonics perform terribly. This is only going to increase with countries looking to cut down on carbon emissions. Not only the airline industry but also other transport oriented industries such as shipping have in fact become slower in recent decades.

[@justalpha9138]

That might be true, but I think due to the technology and the newly opened routes, I think that supersonic travel does have more of a chance compared to before, just so long as these programs fix the sound barrier problems.

[@Vladpryde]

Slower, and more crowded. The name of the game is: how many seats can you cram onto a plane? The seats get smaller, the rows get longer.

[@tylermann6065]

Eventually an electric plane could do it possibly.

[@anonymousperson2287]

I find it funny that this company is called Boom supersonic.

[@ScumfuckMcDoucheface]

.... haha really?..... do you also paw at and laugh about shiny balls of tinfoil? =) haha

[@RazorSharp369]

No plane should have Boom in the name

[@amkgskjsi3840]

@@RazorSharp369 umm boom in a supersonic company isnt that bad they were probably added boom bcus sonuc booms

[@anonymousperson2287]

I understand but that’s a terrible thing to name your company after an airliner that had a tendency to crash.

[@ScumfuckMcDoucheface]

@@amkgskjsi3840 woooow, thanks genius, we truly had no idea haha =)

[@AMoose454]

I’m a private Pilot currently working on my commercial and instrument rating. Super excited for what the future of aviation holds for us.

[@GeorgeSemel]

You keep dreaming pal, you will end up like most flying for some thrid rate overnight box hauler. They sold the same crap to me back in 1973 when I got my Private Pilot Cert. Pilot shortage too. It's bs. Very very competitive profession. You work toward getting on with either UPS or FedEx, there are the only ones you can bank on not going bankrupt. The twin Caravans are coming, too late for me, I retired last March.

[@nick4506]

Concorde was an astounding success. the planes were built then ran until they literally wore out. even NASA had to get a tu-144 because there were no Concordes with any life left in them. making British airways and air France big bucks over their entire lives high gas prices offset by massive ticket prices. and a pretty good service record - one crash over a 27-year service. but by the end, these planes were actually just getting old the first flight was in 1969 still had a flight engineer position in the 2000's .

[@keitha.9788]

I flew on the Concorde years ago. New York to London was 3 Hrs. 12. Minutes. London to New York was 3 Hrs. 20 Minutes... Noisy little airplane.....

[@magnanimus9692]

I saw and heard one take off from Paris one morning. We were at the front of the departure terminal so pretty far from the runway. For the moment the Concorde was talking off, there was no other sound. Me and my sister were screaming at 1 foot away from each other and we couldn't hear anything. Just. Concorde.

[@MrWimbomahadi]

10mins of history and 2mins of actual news

[@lohitdoley2392]

This was more of a history lesson rather then new development!!

[@gabrielmoro3d]

Thanks for all this great info! :)

[@lunes-1]

,great video, keep it up,,!💯

[@alparslankorkmaz2964]

Nice video.

[@charlietube7165]

No

[@broombroom5883]

@@charlietube7165 it is a nice vid

[@BrettonFerguson]

After September 11,2001, gasoline prices in the US went from around $1 to over $4. I'm not sure how high kerosene prices in France and the UK went, but it probably had an effect on Concorde profitability.

[@vijjuvijayaraj.g9402]

thank you for.. nice.. info

[@rushikeshsisode1533]

Interesting stuff 👍

[@dave23024]

Yeah, those sonic booms would get annoying. I heard one (not from a Concorde) from 50 miles away and it sounded like an explosion from a block away. I only found out what it was because it was in the newspaper the next day.

[@roterdachs]

9:40 "2001: the steepest decline of airtraffic in history"... no longer up to date!

[@insectbite1714]

Yes 2020 and 2021 make even less air traffic than 2001

[@scarecrow108productions7]

@@insectbite1714 it can only get worse now. 2022, here we are. Dammit.....

[@windriver2363]

Super sonic travel won't come back at any significant scale. The real reason is technology. With modern video conferencing there's less need for business to send people around the world just to attend a conference or meeting. And people can now work remotely during regular subsonic flights, or with premium seats they can sleep. Meaning that the time spent in the air in no longer wasted time.

[@s.j.6703]

Not the best with our climate issues, it is a beautiful thing though

[@zeppirl]

I would not say it failed. it just got uneconomical like near everything over time. It was overall a great success in its time.

[@tippy651]

Was it just the commercial ones that were shutdown or are there still private ones flying?

[@jacob_emmett7621]

I remember going on the QE2 to New York as a kid and then flying back on concord

[@The_Bermuda_Nonagon]

Supercruise has entered the chat.

[@scarecrow108productions7]

Well, Concorde did supercruise once it reached at mach 1.75 without the needs to use the reheat system. That aircraft and its engines pioneered "supercruise", and eventually found its way to the F-22A Raptor which also capable of doing supercruise.

[@MaxieM0us3]

Hoping the snoot would droop once again! :D

[@ioanbota9397]

I like this video

[@user-ty3gm3yh3o]

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[@corbinmckinney8152]

Most intelligent words I've heard.

[@luisfreeman4338]

Crypto is the new gold

[@howardgeinger3955]

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[@guddibag3635]

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[@sanyampathak763]

Here's your normal comment among bunch of bots.

[@insectbite1714]

This comment section is good

[@tommyzty1089]

I know they named the company "Boom" after the sonic boom, but it's also the sound of an explosion lmao

[@mihrimahskitchen6527]

Nice work....... Dear New Friend 🔔🔔🔔🔔🔔🔔

[@foxbat473]

The Tupolev crash in Paris was caused by a French military mirage jet which flew too close to it while taking photos of the baby wings which were placed above the tupolevs cockpit. A few years later new Mirage fighter jets had some similarities with the tupolev t144

[@matsv201]

Its intresting to compare boom Overture to Concorde. While Overture is considerably smaller on the outside, on the inside its not that much smaller. Overture is 62 meters long and is expected to have 65-88 seats in a 3 wide configuration, that is 22 to 29 rows. Concorde carried 92-128 passenger in a 4 wide configuration, that is 23 to 32 rows. Overture claim to have a MTOW of 77tons, while Concorde had a MTOW of 185 tons, that is 1.44 ton of aircraft per person for Concorde but only 875kg for Overture. Apart from being made of composite, Overture also have a modern bypass engine. This should make the engine some 30% more efficient. While that may not sound like a lot. Combined with the lower weight, lower speed, and better optimized span that decrease the amount of fuel needed quite considerately. If you need less fuel, you can carry less fuel, and if you carry less fuel, you can reduce the weight of the aircraft even more

[@ajsrinath]

Rather than halving time/distance, travelling GREEN seems more relevant now...

[@insectbite1714]

I agree

[@prayasbiswas2501]

Would the snoot droop?

[@gavinbrewes863]

Those maintenance requirements wow, I’d never have guessed Concorde or a 747 would be so high

[@loganberry7754]

5:46 what does that mean? "Tank Toppers"

[@bignateliving4056]

I would be curious to understand why BOOM didn't opt for ram-air jets for speed/efficiency.

[@LowQualityMemesHere]

I think ramjets start to work at high speeds?

[@1Marasa]

It landed in Nairobi in 1975

[@mememe1553]

Ticket prices 📈📈📈

[@kobrien4121]

Ryanair might do a flash sale!

[@scarecrow108productions7]

@@kobrien4121 yeah, at the cost of "bumpy landings"

[@TheBooban]

Good for direct flights. But the way these internet booking companies work, they keep giving us 3 hr layovers for connecting flights, either on the way there or the way back.

[@JRPGGUY]

22 hours of maintenance for every hour in the air? Did I hear that right?

[@marioprz0476]

Yep! Basically the Concorde would go into maintenance for 3+ days just for one trip to NY. Of course it isn’t done at the moment but imagine how high those numbers stacked up with a few more flight, one of any reasons for why the Concorde was so dang expensive to operate

[@sadenuttie2234]

@@marioprz0476 but it did return a profit, especially towards the end of its service

[@marioprz0476]

@@sadenuttie2234 It surely did, but as the video said; the 9/11 attacks+the crash+ people using other methods of travel ultimately made that profit not enough to justify keeping the airplane in service

[@sadenuttie2234]

@@marioprz0476 yeah, and it was also getting old. But some people called it a complete failure, which isn’t true. Any aircraft that adds to the brand image of an airline and returns a profit is a bloody fine aircraft

[@neeljavia2965]

@@sadenuttie2234 It was failure I'm terms of replacing subsonic planes all together. Unlike jetliners completely took over propeller planes in the 50s and 60s, concord wasn't able to do it which was it's original plan.

[@christianisaac4527]

Nice 👌

[@stevehill4615]

Either i'm living in a parallel universe or somethings not quite right here but i saw elsewhere that the main reason British Airways withdrew their Concorde operation was because Airbus (which absorbed Aerospatiale which was partly owned by the french government along with Air France which was trying to be "floated" on the stock markets at the time of the crash of flight 4590) put up the cost of maintenance of the aircraft by 42% which made it economically unviable for BA ----- if the aircraft was so uneconomic why until the Airbus price rise had BA when the modifications were carried out refitted the interiors if they didn't see a future for the aircraft.

[@woody_fromda6ix206]

i dam near almost shed a tear at the end and im scared to death of air plains and hand to god im not even an emotional person weird most likely someone was cutting onions on the next room im very sensitive to them

[@florianjansen6216]

Hmm… more of a history lesson than an outlook.

[@mikedooly7288]

It's going to have the same problem, noise, sonic boom. How big a boom is a function of vehicle gross weight. The heavier you are the stronger the shockwave. All these really cool technologies will not scale up well I don't think. The changes in materials technology are fabulous as are the design engineering aspects but the same problems remain. There is some research that is looking at ways to minimize how and where the shock wave propagates.

[@thykingdomcome7238]

With email, text messaging, video conferencing readily available, do we still need to fly across the Atlantic in 3 hours?! 🤔

[@broombroom5883]

yes

[@nicolas4377]

4:27 the asian dude looks so done with the guy sitting next to him xd

[@shamrock141]

They're not coming back, not in any meaningful way anyway. Today fuel is more expensive, technology allows seemless communication from nearly anywhere on Earth, and with more people living in major urban areas noise pollution is more consequential. We just don't need it, as unromantic as it seems The RyanAir and EasyJet models are the way forward

[@w2385-i2s]

I don't wanna risk my life to save 1 hour.

[@3ricdunn]

Look up Hermeus Corp trying to make mach 5 commercial planes they look like updated sr71

[@KOKOBC]

I feel like it would be cool to make a New York to East Asia trip

[@MrBoliao98]

Frankly, if we common folks could have a good nice plane space where we can sleep, be served in proper crockery, I would die for that.

[@neeljavia2965]

You won't get a peaceful sleep in a supersonic plane

[@BobbyDazzler888]

Starts at 11:40, rest is a history lesson

[@killtime351]

They failed because of money. I saved you 10 minutes of your life. Carry on.

[@Belioyt]

You didn't.

[@Henlarious]

Anyone willing to pay the high cost will fly private jets.

[@Vinh1949]

You be surprised with the amount of money people are making now

[@fiddleywest3778]

What's the song at 4:30?

[@AndreLieberher]

Will this Boom Supersonic be something like the Titanic II that never sets sail.. ? :/

[@stijnhs]

If - and that's a big if - it will set sail, it's either only going to be used by some jetset billionaires or jet rental in the US

[@IRONMIKE_D]

This should be the standard with aviation

[@inifin8]

A thousandth documentary on the same we thing

[@srxovmail]

These will polute A LOT more than regular planes! How is this not boycoted!?!

[@socialistsolidarity]

Concorde was basically a vanity project for the super-rich.

[@Baddy187]

22 Hours of maintenance for every 1 hour of flight? Damn thats insane. How could it ever be profitable with that stat?

[@jonathanjones3126]

Plus fuel usage.

[@wozmac771]

Noisy is a bit of an overstretch. If the airlines don't worry about saving cents/mile and the people on the ground accepting a few sonic booms that actually do no damage, the industry could have created much more efficient planes by now. Prices woudl have come down. And the technology in teh 80s and 90s had gone to a level that teh planes could go beyond the speed of sound easily. But as long as their is no pure profit in them, why would anyone invest.

[@krat40]

The sound of an explosion being the name of a company might not have been the best choice. If there's any kind of disaster like in the past, the name will become a big meme. People undoubtedly remember what happened with the Concorde crash and will immediately associate it with the tragedy. Hopefully nothing like that happens again.

[@albrini8850]

short answer is no , people want to but it not profitable by companies , they should tho a lot of people dont care about the cost , it would work at least in saudi arabia

[@alwinbenjamin]

👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

[@calebmarcus6137]

It’s so cool to see these amazing planes come back

[@Marcg-b4n]

The narration is different? Does she have a lisp? Or is it the accent?

[@gomahklawm4446]

7:00 No, it didn't MAKE 10m. It paid back 10M to it's costs. It was NEVER, NOT ONCE PROFITABLE.

[@ethans6.0]

i can’t help but think maybe the competitors plane also fell a same fate with the fire

[@soloperformer5598]

Overlooking the fact that it was an American aircraft flown by an American airline that actually caused the fatal crash of Concorde.

[@jmendy8039]

12:00 why would I name an aircraft manufacturer “boom” ..?

[@broombroom5883]

Because supersonic boom?

[@jmendy8039]

@@broombroom5883 well done professor broom, that was most important piece of information in the world

[@broombroom5883]

@@jmendy8039 it is thanks

[@jap9539]

They should make Skylynx

[@SpaseGoast]

6:51 Does anyone know what watch he is wearing?

[@fourdoorsmorehoes]

Breitling Professional Aerospace F56062, it's about $2000, it's hard to see so the exact reference number might be incorrect, but it's for sure a Breitling Aerospace

[@SpaseGoast]

@@fourdoorsmorehoes thank you very much

[@scarecrow108productions7]

@@fourdoorsmorehoes oh man, I wanna get me a Breitling Aerospace watch as well..

[@melissawong2407]

What happened to these planes Concord

[@FinancialShinanigan]

More like Rise & Crash

[@mouadchaiabi]

I don't think that naming an airplane company "boom" is a good idea. 😕

[@amkgskjsi3840]

Well aint that bad bcus sonic boom

[@HazeGreyAndUnderway]

Across THE pond. TupolEv. And Tupolev is a manufacturer, the plane was called the Tu-144. Concorde COULD fly over land, just not at supersonic speed. Really, BI, improve the writing.

[@praveenmaurya9825]

The reason why Concorde got fail was also boom boom

[@twitte0king]

I want to fly this fast

[@josephcutrufello277]

Planes fly with aviation magic

[@audacity60]

A new supersonic airliner needs 100 seats like Concorde. 50 lie flat business first seats & 50 premium economy. The top 1% travel with assistants, drivers, bodyguards, children & nannies. The rich up front & their staff in the rear cabin. Speed will probably be no higher than Mach 1.4 to mute sonic boom.

[@Sterlingjob]

Supersonic travel will not work simply because in order to travel at supersonic speed you need to use turbojet engines with afterburners….and they are very noisy. Concorde was also extremely complex and needed a lot of hangar time

[@jonathanjones3126]

Newer military jets have engines that don't need to do this, but still fuel use....

[@Sterlingjob]

@@jonathanjones3126 Name one that can go supersonic minus afterburner?

[@jonathanjones3126]

@@Sterlingjob f22

[@Sterlingjob]

@@jonathanjones3126 Are we talking super cruise or going supersonic without afterburners?

[@jascrandom9855]

I wonder if Private Super Sonic Jets could become a thing.

[@neeljavia2965]

Nah.

[@myofficetop]

Tupolev 144 was great

[@olf42bur]

Environnent: burning Humans: Let's make a new luxury over polluting plane

[@nutsij9565]

L

[@fmpranav]

This is the right time for concorde to make come back..

[@universaljudge3790]

*Two ppoo loff...had a bomb planted on it by Concord before taking off* 🤣🤣🤣

[@BouncyBunny-h2v]

65 passengers? Wasn't Concorde always bagged for only carrying 100. They also said 3.5 hours across the Atlantic to Concordes 3. This boom plane should not be compared to Concorde. It is not in her league. Not close.

[@verify8295]

In the end , its all about the cost.