Is Team Liquid Another FAILED Super Team? | Facecheck S05E02

In this episode, LS, dGON, and IWDominate give their thoughts on the this weeks NA LCS teams' performance!
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00:00:00 - 00:01:43 Intro
00:01:43 - 00:03:36 When do LS and Dom take a break
00:03:36 - 00:08:54 LCS new start
00:08:54 - 00:12:04 LCS Matches from opening week and teams
00:12:04 - 00:21:06 Team Liquid
00:21:06 - 00:25:37 Top of the standings
00:25:37 - 00:27:30 Starters and academy players switching
00:27:30 - 00:30:31 Pro player toxicity
00:30:31 - 00:38:21 Evil geniuses
00:38:21 - 00:45:02 100T
00:45:02 - 00:52:09 Flyquest
00:52:09 - 00:54:06 Golden Guardians
00:54:06 - 00:55:58 Dignitas
00:55:58 - 00:58:25 Immortals
00:58:25 - 01:02:03 Champ Pool is massive
01:02:03 - 01:05:01 CLG
01:05:01 - 01:06:35 Support players
01:06:35 - 01:09:35 Facecheck all in
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[@gf2245]

Promote more the show on social media, most people probably don't know it's on this channel

[@tuulituuli3184]

So true. It might not always even be weekly. I just search the show name every now and then to see if new episode is out or not. I've seen dgon tweet about new episode sometimes but dude he has no followers

[@WisteriaBerlitz]

I Had to search "iwd podcast" to see what channel it's on

[@echo5440]

huge fan of the show and i didnt even know till now that it was on here

[@liborsysel2234]

They rly need to promote this more I found this week after it was out Just randomly showed as i was scrollimg down yt

[@salvest3rr]

i personally only watch this show for doms takes but he has other shows so i dont always need to catch this one

[@coledorillo6685]

Dom and LS really need to have someone to force them to take 8 hour rests daily and designated unwinding time.

[@Haitch12341]

The typa people that would get healthier from a opiate addiction💀

[@vishnuvaid7465]

@@Haitch12341 why do you think el domingo republic is doing the cracc

[@Moesbi689]

This podcasts changes channel location every year:D 6 days later KZbin recommended me this otherwise I wouldn't even know that it already continued

[@ericofficially]

banger ep, cant wait for the next one.

[@darksplash2191]

Dom and LS, would love to have you both do the picks and bans for pro teams. I have a serious question, what are your thoughts on the coach of each team or 1 member represent the team and there only job is to go in the game and give directions to each player what to buy and what’s plays to go for just like the NFL just as an example.

[@rotcoke652]

I really wouldn't call Liquid a superteam

[@ethanp5948]

Love papa dgon's weekly wellness check

[@newrudo]

Another banger guys

[@szymciupol]

I don't know if LCS is ready for Hoon vs Tommy 2.0. matchup. I sure as hell would love to see it tho

[@DarkorbitForever12]

Okay bring back timestamps, its 2023

[@mathewsloat6848]

DGon reusing his fact of the week. Ok, I see you.

[@leviwilliams3616]

Dgon is such a great presence really makes the show

[@MaskedPlayer514]

Good episode, I have an actual decent comment in mind but I forgot about it completely but giving a boost to the algorithm

[@EgoCarry1]

I didn't know this show got a new channel again

[@ellisaris4063]

dom instantly loves lcs when phreak is out kekw

[@raizerlax7]

Not only does EG have Ssumday snd FBI but ALSO FREEZE! as the coach and suddenly EG‘s midgame looks like 100T‘s midgame. I doubt that‘s a coincidence

[@UTDInsider]

Don’t think it’s on ssumday tho, I can take FBI and Freeze being considerable downgrades but ssumday a goat

[@puchepro5067]

THE GOATS ARE BACK LETS GOOO

[@Caesar--]

Good episode, sorta mirroring my own sentiment on TL as well lol, hard work does not convert 1 to 1 into success, innate talent also makes up a large portion of it. TL has talent but in the wrong roles and it comes with too many caveats

[@boredindividual]

Hoon is the true goat of league.

[@MrGetownedLP]

28:30 very well said

[@adonnis1]

How often are new episodes being made? It used to be weekly but you didn’t talk about last weeks games and now another week of LCS is passed

[@Yied1]

I didn’t know it was here is the promotion not there?

[@tuulituuli3184]

I just love how dom keeps straight face after saying the funniest shit meanwhile dgon loses it

[@mw2nubcake]

I think LS is right on the money with the short bursts of anxiety. I wonder how they would deal with that if they can validate that is what is happening?

[@micahchurch5733]

Breathing techniques and meditation if you are always meditating it makes you a lot calmer and less expecting and that makes you play a lot better in the moment if you don't have expectations of every small play

[@VictorPerez-sh7et]

You are right dom. LET THE BEAST HOON COOK!!!!!!

[@Aanenk]

as the udyr convo came up , i had an udyr take my cannon minion for no reason as an adc. Thats whhy

[@disturbed1734]

Got to last hit better.

[@orionmilbury4817]

What LS says about blabber is how I feel when I used to jg I would do ok but if it was game moment I would lock up and heart

[@Flynnly]

Wait I honestly thought the show dissapeared

[@stuffhappened9271]

Does anyone know what dGon's ign is in League?

[@theosamour3249]

you guys seriously need to stop changing channels or at least you have to post it on twitter whenever a new episode airs or something. great stuff tho

[@Gabriel64468]

Lmao IWD calling out the Febiven rage

[@willsszz8521]

LS's lighting is the only of the three that isn't egregious. LMAO

[@radekhruby142]

Sadly I cant watch LCS at all since I am in Europe, I was watching LCS since season 3 close to every single time...

[@Aanenk]

algorithm hates yall atm, only seen this in my feed 6 days later and ive been searching for this type of content, maybe start posting as a #podcast too

[@BartekJC]

I like the analysis of IWD..."Idk, yeah, they are just bad...yeah idk"

[@dillonoickle5841]

so i think a big part of why the trio streams with Sneaky Meteos and DL was good is they had intresting or fun conversations between games and during boring games etc. which cuts down on dead time alot. the actual entertaining personalities like QT cinderella and Bwipo for the in between times are a great upgrade they should also brainstorm and shoot a couple small bits ranging from 1-5 mins long and put them in storage for if there is pauses as pauses kiiiillls the vibe and any fun happening.

[@typg9397]

I would never have called TL a super team. A coinflip top, the worst player on a championship roster, two rookie carries and your play making support in an enchanter/ad caster meta. Watching their first two weeks, it is kind of obvious Summit needs to learn how to weak side and their rookies need some time. Their early game again looks solid, so they could be good at some point.

[@vonwaq]

well, steve and tl built the roster with the intent of surround rookies (that they perceive to have great talent, otherwise they would have picked up other players considering steve loves spending with winning worlds in mind) with what they believe to be good top jg sup, but the reality is that core is really the only good player on the team, and even then idk. summit is good mechanically but without a good coach he’s just going to keep relying on that and revert back to typical lck top playstyle, like we’ve seen him in sandbox, c9 and fpx. summit is nice to have if you want to make a bad roster better, but he’s a gamble to have on a worlds winning roster, much like theshy. meanwhile pyosik is really just.. not even top 6-7 jungler in the lcs. they probably intented for it to be a ‘superstar’ lineup but sadly it isn’t.

[@typg9397]

@@vonwaq i dont think so. They stated several times they were not trying to build superstar roster but a cohesive team that could speak the same language and the meme “work harder”. They wanted to build a culture. The rookies do have raw talent but definitely need time. Yeon even said that in his interview with Travis. Summit is team reliant truly at this point. He looks good on teams that can counter gank or make use of his pressure on objectives therefore teams can’t sit top and spam gank him. Pyosik looks fine tbh. Not a superstar but solid. Our early game is very good. I have faith they can pull it together. All the issues are fixable.

[@praline6219]

Why aren’t you guys promoting this better

[@edwardvanmanz]

How are 2 rookies and Mark a super team?

[@Wiipodicus]

corejj has na-itus

[@goodfromohio]

these timestamps are terrible lol

[@shakespear7675]

How is 2 NA rookies a super team???

[@vghsfan]

Who tf is king vex and what he do

[@commonsensei9772]

The discussion with how 100T will lose & become TSM reminded me of the same thoughts last year of how TL lost their games. The common factor clearly is Bjergsen. Too passive & slowly lose. I know Doublelift on his review stream tried to defend his friend style of play. Metoes & Sneaky jokingly but clearly said Bjerg hampers his junglers. Closer already camping mid the whole laning phase. It’s pretty clear to me at least Bjerg is major part of the problem. Doublelift still got it clearly. No doubt a Top 3 ADC. Hopefully Tenacity & Busio are given enough patience to progress or their careers could be damaged before it has begun because of having Dlift & Bjerg on the team people expect to win everything right away.

[@MagiRemmie]

Dlift has already stated that no one told Closer to camp mid, that is just what Closer decided to do.

[@radekhruby142]

That's a huge assumption you make :D and btw Closer already said it was his decision so ur wrong

[@UTDInsider]

@@radekhruby142 yeah because I’m a team environment when someone is getting roasted you add fuel to the fire by saying Yes berg asked me to babysit him mid lane because he’s washed and doesn’t know how he tricked 100T into signing him

[@commonsensei9772]

@@radekhruby142 I go off what I see in game not PR from the players themselves. Why tf would they admit such a thing that'll just cause a dsitraction. You fanboys are delusional.

[@radekhruby142]

@@commonsensei9772 Closer is really open about these things, why would he lie? no point to that

[@brockjackson98]

Sucks that this shows views hip died cause its changed channels a million times

[@ZeroGoofs]

Just so weird how fiddle has been the best jungle on average for like a year now and still nobody gives a shit

[@SollieSenpai]

I just realized that Tommy = Ryoma

[@ShinDSER]

You deserve a gold star.

[@Tropical_Panda]

This video got recommended to me after today's game LMAOOOO TL are done, prolly theyll make playoffs but they have no shot at beating clg even

[@supercereal1]

It’s so weird. Great show but it feels bad when Dom feeds the narrative that 100T weren’t already a “do nothing and lose” kind of team already. The biggest problem that Dom has been targeting for 100T since the huhi era is that the team is not active and just scales which is what they did in those first 2 game. Just a weird narrative that I wish dom wouldn’t unnecessarily feed.

[@UTDInsider]

To be fair bro I’m a 100T fan and I’ve never liked any of the rosters or gameplay always seems like we’ve no clue what to do in game and in the office Yet we’ve done how won thanks to covid and a severe lack in competition those splits Why have we signed berg and dlift over having unforgiven in academy (dlift has done nothing wrong) but the most dumb calls just to raise the fan base for a split or two till we have to get a new mid

[@supercereal1]

@@UTDInsider no see I’m in complete agreement. It’s just I don’t think bjerg and doublelift make the 100T game plan any slower. 100T lost Ssumday and FBI, both of which prefer to scale just like doublelift bjerg. Just kind of weird how dom is painting the team like all of a sudden they’re a do nothing team. Nah they’ve always been a do nothing team lol

[@UTDInsider]

@@supercereal1 fair enough I can see where your coming from

[@david4654]

47:30 genuinely DGon what does Blaber need to do to get some respect? There's no way you actually tried to make the argument that Spica's highs are higher lmfao cmon dude.

[@soulares1]

smh so much for letting any talent grow LOL after 1 week of spring and LS is already talking about replacing Diplex dude can we at least see a BO5 fucks sake

[@holykobe44]

999

[@UTDInsider]

Ssumday been a very good and consistent performer in arguably bad teams and with a much worse mid Being successful with them but it’s his fault that an NA mid isn’t performing

[@radekhruby142]

Can you please stop making new channels ? :D

[@TravisTheUnknown]

TL in 2023 has been, is, and never will be a super team. Idk where that idea came from. They have 2 basically brand new players to a top tier league. Pyosik despite being a defending world champion is not that good of a jungler and Summit is a question mark going in after struggling in Spring playoffs then falling off the face of the earth in Summer. What an awful video title.

[@bentran4817]

Summit wasn’t too bad in the lpl in summer, pyosik is just straight up not good tho

[@maskedkitsune9774]

This guy just called LCS a big tier league. What the actual fuck is you smoking sunshine. Life for you is bleak. Rational thought has not entered your head my boy. Please get help.

[@anansi6344]

TL marketing always outruns reality. first it was super team brand. now it's all korean team + world champions brand. i know what you mean but the point is more this.

[@OMAR-vk9pi]

They have two world champions

[@Gurpreet-sv5zg]

Yea imo the mid/adc are bad. Pyosik is not some hyper carry jungler who can 1v9. Seems like Summit is not on a leash like he was when he plays in LCK and LPL. In reality it's still not a super team. IMO FQ fits that title because arguably their worst player is there support followed by Spica which says a lot.

[@wassolldas5894]

Sooooo....LS is implying that C9 signed a 19 year old (Diplex) to stand in so that a 22 year old (Emenes) can grow into the role? Like bruh if you aren't ready at age 22 you'll never be, shit sound unrealistic af

[@milesbeckenstrater3696]

"DL will be middle of the pack adc" - Delusional Donkey Dom. Man just hates DL can never give him any praise

[@thelight3270]

Idk why he’s hating on Pyosik. He’s one of the GOATS

[@bishopwittenmyer5319]

Who plays like shit, he almost lost worlds single handedly and was on a like 10th place roster the year before

[@Blurr1400]

no shot pyosik and goat are in the same phrase.

[@TS0ciety]

@@Blurr1400 yeah he's one of the gamers of all time

[@SirDumplin]

your clearly didnt watch lck last year, he isn't a good player.

[@maskedkitsune9774]

@@SirDumplin let’s get this straight pyosik is a great player when it comes to understanding meta changes earlier. He has a really limited jungle pool. He’s one of the most open junglers to learning new junglers and one of those players who finds the new meta early. That’s why DRX was normally one of the most sorted teams to scrim for T1 in LCK last year. However, that man is super reliant on having a mid who can carry whilst also playing super supportive around his style. So if that’s achieved sure he’s a good player at doing that. This just ain’t realistic to expect though as in this team pyosik ain’t the teams carry. Just he’s a great jungler at reading metas. Just not a great jungler sadly.

[@tysonforeal]

The qt Cinderella segment finally switched me from a Live Viewer to a VoD Watcher. If we're just going to pander to twitch zoomers and forget about heritage on the opening day, well then this isn't the league for me anymore

[@bishopwittenmyer5319]

Bruh move on clearly taking LCS too seriously. Until they win something it’s a for fun league it’s that simple. Plus if you think that’s worse than 45 minute analyst desk segments with only like 2 bearable personalities you’re just kinda hating

[@Zanza007]

Bad take boomer

[@anansi6344]

thank god no one panders to the minority of victimized og fans or we'd be dead 3 seasons ago. Don't blame QT for Dash, we coulda had both.

[@OMAR-vk9pi]

Ok grandpa

[@Gurpreet-sv5zg]

Incel take for sure

[@leaguefixesyourmatches8259]

No one cares about LCS. The boomer should retire and let the youngins take over