"Is that me?!" His Dark Materials' Dafne Keen & Amir Wilson on eyebrows, screams and awkward moments

Dafne Keen and Amir Wilson talk to BBC Radio 1's film critic Ali Plumb about returning as Lyra and Will in Series 2 of His Dark Materials on BBC One and BBC iPlayer in the UK. They discuss how they landed their roles without even meeting each other, how weird it is to see your face on a massive billboard, and confess to almost stealing an alethiometer. Plus, Amir reveals he was a little intimated by Dafne's appearance alongside Wolverine himself in Logan.
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Listen to Ali talk to Ruth Wilson from His Dark Materials on Radio 1's Screen Time podcast on BBC Sounds here: bbc.in/2U9NekR

[@MikeMcRoberts]

2:43 that is not Daphne's mum - www.gettyimages.co.uk/detail/news-photo/natalia-tena-will-keen-and-dafne-keen-attends-the-refugees-news-photo/452519588

[@bbcradio1]

@@MikeMcRoberts Oh, whoops!! Sorry Dafne!

[@serenitybeats1677]

Holy she grew up so fast, I remember her on Logan and now she’s almost 16 wtf

[@emilygrace942]

*almost 16😂

[@serenitybeats1677]

@@emilygrace942 oh almost 16 whoops

[@pratikroy227]

@@serenitybeats1677 Hoping she's going to return as Laura and here's hoping Marvel will hire her back whenever they are ready to introduce adult X-23.

[@arkarmiller70]

Bro I watched logan when I was 12 (2017) and now I'm also almost 16.

[@serenitybeats1677]

@@pratikroy227 omg same

[@itslinbaby]

Imagine meeting Ruth Wilson and she says “ Hi I’m Ruth Wilson and we have the same eyebrows “ like whaaaaattt?!?😭😭😭

[@movienaut]

I loved so much Dafne in Logan. I remember the scene where she screams at him in spanish. Hugh Jackman said that he felt so bad when he cursed directly at her and after the filming he went to Dafnes mother and begged forgiveness for doing such a bad thing to little Dafne. Dafnes mother just laughed and told Hugh "Its okay, Dafne said a much worse word to you in spanish!" Apparently, that part of Dafnes anger was cut out!

[@danielwhyatt3278]

OMG wow, that is quite a surprise.

[@bojes3467]

i remembered logan said 'No existo!' haha

[@tereasia]

The casting of the kids is perfection

[@ajan5257]

nonce

[@topdog5252]

@@ajan5257 stop trolling (edit) fr tho. U sound like 1 of those accounts to just wind people up

[@m1295jdhdhwhrbhvhv]

not really lol

[@SouthPark333Gaming]

@@m1295jdhdhwhrbhvhv Not really. Will is a bit too old. And Lyra should be blonde and more intelligent.

[@jacobcurle8964]

@@SouthPark333Gaming I mean hair colour is pretty irrelevant, I think it’s fine. And intelligence isn’t a casting thing it’s a writing thing (not that I think Lyra isn’t intelligent in the show)

[@laurabmayron9325]

"I screamed." Girl same, I'm a decade older than her and those opening titles give me full-body chills every time

[@petersmernoff9590]

Dafne and Amir are both just phenomenally talented, and have great chemistry onscreen as well.

[@deadmxss]

The way Dafne told Amir to shut up had me screaming. Friendship goals

[@docedcrib9079]

amir has a fuller beard than any grown man i know and he's only 16!

[@silvershine6229]

Those arab genes

[@TheRealCurtisWright]

Yeah he looks more 18-19. I’m 25 and can’t grow a beard that good 😅

[@Ray03595]

a kid i went to middle school with had a full grown beard by 13. Genes can be crazy haha. And I still dont have a full grown beard at 25. 😫

[@TheRealCurtisWright]

@@Ray03595 that boy was a man child... I had the same at high school, a good friend was forced to shave every morning by our dean because he’d have that much stubble, poor guy was only 14 at the time

[@andyb6256]

@@silvershine6229 He's half Iranian not arab.

[@TheMUZZWELL]

Hands down the best film journalist for interviews. Keep it up mate

[@SJ101x]

Came here to say I've never seen Ali do a bad interview, he is just great at getting interesting answers out of people. Nice to know I'm not the only one who thinks this 😁

[@livdanielajimenezdelgado5465]

Fr, I love all his interviews

[@bernardsoul5186]

Really? I thought he looked tired, and he asked the most generic questions ever

[@joekc7114]

I hope the person that caught him with the knife said “Not so subtle are you!”

[@montinadiz1]

I applaud and support this a LOT xD

[@emilygrace942]

this is the best thing i’ve heard all year😂😂😂😂😂

[@johnlongbottom3322]

Lol

[@monicap7941]

Very good!

[@ScorpiusMalfoy14]

🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@dpacc88]

These two are great together. It's gonna make the end all the harder 😭

[@sconnor-pt4vt]

Hey now, spoilers... 😉

[@Krunch13]

NOONE: Dafne to Amir: shut up

[@jamiepacemizzi2822]

Ikr😂

[@infjelphabasupporter8416]

Dafne Keen studies at my school in Madrid, she's one grade above me, I see her a lot🤩. ... And have fan-panic-attacks while she is unaware of my existence.

[@monicap7941]

Is it a British school? Do you guys have all your lessons in English? Basically tell us a bit more about the school and the makeup of the students please, if that's not being too nosy!

[@infjelphabasupporter8416]

@@monicap7941 No, most classes are in Spanish, since as far as I know Dafne is also bilingual. It's a school centered mostly around the arts with a number of actors and painters and such. I'm a writer.

[@alpborakirte801]

cool

[@alpborakirte801]

@@infjelphabasupporter8416 I did not surprise by her being bilingual. Her Spanish was so good and felt natural on Logan.

[@austinwyss]

Tell her I said hi.

[@charlilymo192]

i love this interviewer, he really just makes it feel a lot more casual even online. like he asks questions that we can actually get some information and get some BTS gossip rather than just asking for the sake of asking.

[@angelinqxx]

“Hi I’m Ruth Wilson, we have the same eyebrows.”

[@marianm2680]

She has a great future ahead .... she's the next gen star along with Millie Bobby Brown. Hope so see them in one film in the future!

[@naufalayrton9249]

The chemistry between amir and dafne is amazing

[@jennom2195]

i can't express enough how much this show means to me. It's given me a world to escape in when I need it the most

[@snowblizzard47]

every time a new Ali Plumb interview pops up i'm clicking on it straightaway 💯

[@shandysawh3071]

they are adorable. and they play their characters so well! I'm glad they're older in the show, I always thought 12 was a bit too young in the books.

[@sourandcream]

the openings always make me have so much goosebumps

[@dannymainzer2597]

I have to say that I always ALMOST cry in that opening every single episode 🥺

[@Someone-tf1tk]

I’ve read the series three times, once when I was ten, once when I was eleven, and finally when I was twelve. It’s great seeing it all happen just as I imagined it

[@stuartwilson7794]

Have you read the sequel series

[@lunarl]

I've read the novels an uncountable number of times over the past 3 decades

[@Someone-tf1tk]

@@stuartwilson7794 I’ve read the books of dust yeah

[@TheGrillCheeseFanatic]

Same here. Read the trilogy a lot as a teen back in the early 00s. The Book of Dust trilogy is also excellent. I am so happy to finally see those masterpieces adapted to a motion picture series. The cast is outstanding. You can really feel Keen and Wilson's chemistry there. Early signs of them being soul mates.

[@edng5964]

When I watched season 1 I saw the likeness of Ruth and Dafne's eyebrows and thought it help convey that their characters were related. I was like yes, I can see that...

[@esmockingjay9730]

Dafne is a great actress and she also seems so genuine. I love the banter and the casual ‘shut-up’s between her and Amir. I love the music for the His Dark Materials theme especially for season 2 and I am honestly going to try to get my orchestra to play it. And truly, I never pronounced Cittagazze. When ever I read that word in the book I just skipped over it.

[@danieljenkins1758]

Excited to see the new series tomorrow, great interview Ali!

[@oOoScarecrow31oOo]

Those 2 are carrying this show on their shoulders and they do it amazingly. 😎 So much talent and charisma.

[@ajmamora6332]

holy she audition when she was 11? damn her patience is more high than my confidence lmao

[@Bjork4s]

Her father is an actor (who is also star in the series), so apparently maybe he had contacts with the casting director for her daughter to audition quickly. Also her father must've trained her so well to be an actress

[@FEARisCOLD]

Proud for Dafne seeing her get good work after Logan. She’s phenomenal.

[@freyagoodall4705]

I am obsessed with his dark materials and I LOVE it so much and I listen to radio 1 screen time podcasts and I have listened to this soooooo many times

[@Bidrissou15]

I can't wait for it to pull up tomorrow

[@savvasaam7644]

their banter is adorable

[@DeepInMusic123]

Absolute joy of an interview

[@xchristinex001]

Can't wait for the new season, the subtle knife was my favourite of all the three books!

[@B00s3]

I love Dafne Keen, such a talented actor. Can't wait to see her future work, I'm sure it'll be great.

[@MarisuSedai]

Lyra & Will are what’s on the opposite end of the spectrum of “Still a better love story than Twilight” in the YA genre. ❤️

[@Jrdn357]

....They're twelve.... 🤣🤣🤣

[@MarisuSedai]

Jordan Newman lol it’s easy to forget that sometimes. At least the show is aging them up. 😂

[@calebgoodman2076]

@@Jrdn357 Twelve or not they were romantically involved in the books. Don’t worry, it’s nothing bad, just a kiss scene in Book 3.

[@calebgoodman2076]

@@MarisuSedai Hopefully not too much. Lyra and Will going through puberty is a huge plot point. So big that the Magisterium has to kill them before it happens.

[@Jrdn357]

@@calebgoodman2076 I know, I've read them. I was joking, lmfao!

[@salamander7154]

2:45 never noticed Father MacPhail was Lyras dad in real life

[@easongreene]

really?

[@KanohiVahi]

@@easongreene Yeah, his name is Will Keen and he is Dafne's dad. Also it's funny we have both Ruth Wilson and Amir Wilson in the show but they're not related at all afaik. Then there's also Serafina Pekkala's actor Ruta Gedmintas when we also have another witch named Ruta Skadi. This show's cast is funny with names :D

[@ymirkazuki]

And anne marie duff is james mcavoy's ex. This cast omg

[@BuzzLiteBeer]

Amir lookin like the re-incarnation of Prince.

[@candace200]

He's got the dreamy face like Prince but is taller. Such a cute kid.

[@noemiecansier8466]

I am HYPED

[@MiloDCampos]

They're huge 😍 Just wish the traillers didn’t give out so many spoilers... Loving this season so far

[@helenross3037]

ali plumb is genuinely one of the best interviewers out there

[@scorpyniko7416]

Can't for season 2!!!!

[@aniabukowski]

i absolutely love this show, and the cast is incredible!!!!! 💙

[@janelawson2244]

my favourite show EVER i love it!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@ziripond3502]

Ali for best interview award???

[@milliemos3130]

Gives me millie Bobby brown and Louis partridge vibes 🥰🥰

[@longestname817]

Omg same

[@easongreene]

I love Millie

[@lowquality49]

not this 😭😭

[@thedementedoasis8342]

There are actually a LOT of parallels btwn dafne & Millie I noticed . They're both fluent in Spanish but look white & have British accents . They both come from Spain originally . They both play geneticAlly enhanced children with super powers being pursued by dark government forces as escaped experiments in their break out roles . They both have a scene where they steal from a store & use their powers against the employees to get away 🤣🤣 it's actually reeeeally weird when u think about it . Almost as if it's by design

[@milliemos3130]

@@thedementedoasis8342 I can’t believe I’ve never noticed this before

[@xxgsxx4908]

Amir: standard, as u do Dafne: *shut up* God i can't wait for s2😂 (Edit: 6:08 btw)

[@bbcradio1]

So funny!

[@angelinqxx]

It’s here UwU

[@xxgsxx4908]

@@angelinqxx yh it's immaculate lmao can't wait for ep 5!

[@xxgsxx4908]

AHSJSS THAT FINALE

[@neckdeepjohn7374]

dafne is an amazing actor

[@lyra9767]

Will and Lyra❤️❤️

[@ElsieVlogs]

I love that program x

[@lennonfpcodm4600]

I’ve never read the books and I’m a massive fan of the show

[@orange-u-tan1344]

You MUST read the books there worth it I promise

[@lennonfpcodm4600]

@@orange-u-tan1344 I want to finish the series first as I don’t wanna know what happened!

[@ashlynella328]

@@orange-u-tan1344 can u tell me where I can read the books?

[@angelinqxx]

They are not written by the same person, all of the books are written by different people. But it’s really cool because you get different vibes from each book!

[@lennonfpcodm4600]

@@angelinqxx that’s cool

[@stonerheartbirthmark1099]

You arw both really talented

[@AlanMartinez-bj7kw]

Oh look, it’s the goat X-23

[@oxiary]

X-23 STAND ALONE FILM WHEN? 😭 Logan was the last movie i bawl'd to in the cinema, no film since has made me went there except Black Panther and Spiderverse.

[@jennom2195]

brilliant freaking cast. brilliant show. This beats harry potter for me, personally.

[@jackiejackieplayz3791]

Same!!!!!!

[@jackiejackieplayz3791]

Don't tell the harry potter fandom tho cause they'll kill me 😳

[@jennom2195]

@@jackiejackieplayz3791 yay!!! I'm so glad I'm not the only one hahahahaha

[@jennom2195]

@@jackiejackieplayz3791 I'm sworn to secrecy!!:) I won't say a word!!:D

[@poopshitcum]

Avada Kedavra

[@ziripond3502]

2:51 THE BENCH! THIS IS NOT A DRILL, WE ARE SHOWN THE VERY BENCH or is it not is :/

[@ericksonsouza6479]

Yes it is....

[@themorgensterninvelaris7760]

Yasss that's it! 😭❤️😭❤️

[@KanohiVahi]

Oh shit... 😢

[@s_p1644]

The Cali accent tho 😆 and the “where’s Pan?”

[@raienydelfino5676]

I love them 💕

[@MyNameIsAhj]

It’s funny that’s exactly how I figured out that twist before they showed it was because of their eyebrows. It was well matched I will say haha

[@caitlinrobertson3780]

dafne looks GORGEOUS oml

[@FarhanMehmood]

Dafne has grown up so quickly

[@peterkambasis]

The "What mementos did you take from the set?" question is always a tricky one for the actors, when a BBC reporter is asking about a BBC show, Ali. Or should I call you " Props narc?" ;)

[@christinescully1603]

I love it I missed the last one where can I see it thank you or can you tell me what happened please👏👍🙏

[@kirankunwar2365]

love from nepal

[@sarosenna5850]

I love the Eloise Little mention, but no mention that she also voiced Salcilia?

[@rosegladville1935]

SHE HAS HIS GLOVES!!!! I'm dying 🤩🤩

[@mikasafrfr]

When is episode 8 coming, ugh! I've been waiting for days,☹😞

[@hannahtobeck]

amir is SO pretty i love him

[@ladychips]

oh wow she's all grown up now from Logan! Can't wait for her to return as x-23! no one else can/should do it but her.

[@doctorwhyyt11]

There reactions are so funny 😂

[@danielwhyatt3278]

Oh woooow, they look sooo different from how they are in the series. That must be quite a different makeup look they give them.😮😲

[@hayleyrichardson3921]

His dark materials is the best thing i love you lyra and will

[@afiqazman6615]

They’re really sweet... now I wish I can see Dafne Keen and Millie Bobby Brown in a project together

[@bor2187]

they acted superbly. the show is quality and does the bo

[@noname99234]

It’s good to know I wasn’t the only one who screamed when I first heard the intro

[@noemiecansier8466]

I love Dafne’s zoom name is her dad’s

[@neyneyNunya]

Ruth Wilson has the best eyebrows in the world

[@eddiekaspbrak4624]

omg!!! she is so big now!!!! i cant believe it!!!

[@FaisalKhan-ol8oo]

Love From India

[@lucyscandalo]

I need season 2 in Argentina NOWWWWW!!

[@zimvamp8808]

X2

[@ororomunroe4055]

Esta en HBO

[@Nico18_]

X-23 movie please!!!

[@seven3502]

I could see Amir playing as Miles Morales (from Into The Spiderverse).

[@jayswisssubliminals5243]

Amir is far too light skinned for that Miles is supposed to be a dark skinned afro latina man ,who is half latino/hispanic and black. If they can't get a actor who is half latino they would go for a black actor judging by how Miles has always looked black even though he is mixed. I dont think Kevin Feige would do it or sony for that matter , e.g... it would be big white washing drama in the media. Even the new video game establishes Miles as a afro latino man who is dark skinned in the latest PS 5 game. Amir is pretty much close to Tom Hollands complexion at times like in this video.

[@rainyp2003]

@@jayswisssubliminals5243 *Latino. "Latina" is for females.

[@jayswisssubliminals5243]

@@rainyp2003 thanks I corrected it

[@yaboy1689]

@@jayswisssubliminals5243 thanks for the essay

[@jayswisssubliminals5243]

@@yaboy1689 your welcome

[@AndresGonzalez-pw7ck]

Dafnee is a beast

[@Rossilaz58]

They look so different in the show

[@teodora3]

They were younger

[@Wiz83]

She's grown up so much since Logan!

[@osamaalebrahime9710]

Nice

[@fronghii]

I want to be Dafne's best friend I love her

[@revelation2261]

Beautiful dafnee kheen ,i like your movie logan wolverie

[@dervy5935]

They’re friendship>>>>>>>

[@roger09x81]

Amazing entrevist

[@willposibol1992]

Entrevist? Whats that?

[@travellerinthedark]

@@willposibol1992 'Entrevista' is Spanish for 'interview', I think the poster was just trying to translate directly from their language.

[@willposibol1992]

@@travellerinthedark lol, ok thanks. Nice Try by this dude.

[@brianjoseph792]

Love from Tanzani hi guy's

[@iamBlackGambit]

I like how she says shut up lol

[@yaboy1689]

No way we're all the same age, me and dafne was both born in 2005🤩

[@dylandavis29]

I hope their acting is good

[@Everything-mh4bp]

As someone who knows the guy this is awesome

[@Itsn0goodj]

You know Amir?

[@SaraH-hq8pd]

Amir❤❤

[@pete3699]

Greetings from Germany

[@sonicfreak04]

Id love to see Dafne's reaction to the 2007 movie

[@theamazingonionman]

She had seen it when she was little. But she didn’t know at first that HDM was connected with it.

[@smokey5587]

How they could be so different with the sacond season of show..?

[@doctorwhyyt11]

Hi I am Ruth Wilson we have the same eyebrows -Ruth Wilson LMAO

[@ethancardinal1876]

Shame they will only do a 3rd and final season 😕