Is the Dark System Real? (and how to avoid it)

[@RaldRhines]

Don't play when you're tired or you'll become the dark system I'm trying more lengthy videos without subtitles since i still need to edit it manually Discord discord.gg/eYj6hN3n25

[@mohamedibrahim5583]

If u play an Indian server u will know what is dark system

[@ManjushaRahaman-q3n]

Pretty sure this vedio is around 2 weeks ago since the guy in ur friends kinshaha06 was 180 then

[@PhamHanrin]

Mlbb darksystem Matchmaking is moonton solution to balance all players from different ranks that's why all of us experiencing 1-1 ratio of losing and winning.Its because that's their solution to mlbb smaller playerbase now. They balance all players using matchmaking so there will be no DEAD tier or rank.

[@Billhook1311yJ]

No just don't sign in on 7 day log in and dark system may not see you , my opinion hehe

[@InteritionalMang]

That why there so many dark system in indonesia, there a thing called joki Bangsat anjing joki tai

[@Arise914]

This system is so unfair bceuse it allows horrible players to reach the same rank as pro players, like whats the point of ranking system anymore?

[@rawrharry8772]

that's why i keep saying that Moneyton needs to go with the Point system instead of the Star system. Players that are in Squads have already surpassed 500 stars so there is no more point in playing unless you want to accumulate stars. With the Point system, we achieve our own goals in this game without heavily relying on 4 teammates even when we lose. After that, we can tell who are the better players with the Point system rather than the Dark system. The system is unfair because moneyton wants it that way.

[@Aekaay]

​​@@rawrharry8772 yeah definitely felt that way .point system was way better.plus if montoon could make sth like not deducting stars for defeated mvp,that is fair trade..got 5 defeated mvp in a row today..it is too frustrating to lose because of teammates actually

[@mikalyolo3384]

I got 200 games and mythic 25 right now and I'm playing with guys who got 1.500 games and wr 48.or lower

[@Alertchase]

System is not unfair. 50 star used to pro before . But not anymore. There are million of casual players. Mythic glory, blue and mythic is something average players can reach every season. Even ok players can be carried to 50 stars by spamming few meta heroes. 50+ plus is when you need micro and macro where average meta spammer failed to push stars. But now Mlbb is big world wide. 100+ star is only considered pro now. I realized such a gameplay gap after i saw gameplay of the top players of my country.

[@Katshita]

Yep moonton don't want me to reach mythical honor

[@zero1188]

It exist. Went on a 25 game winning streak. Then a 35 losing streak.

[@yeetuspatronus1050]

I'd crash out after that 💀

[@2kfear41]

@@yeetuspatronus1050 Earlier this season before I reached Mythic I was on my promotion for Mythic and around 2 days later I was Legend 4 1 star (Though some games we indeed my fault)

[@yeetuspatronus1050]

@@2kfear41 same. That's a common occurrence for me. And, 2/3 seasons ago I was at mythic honor with around 35 stars and, no kidding, in just a week I'm dropped to 5 stars. It's not a lose streak but it's still infuriating

[@jeremymaxwell3008]

Been there! Won 20 plus streaks. Then all of a sudden i got defeat streaks. It came to the point that i uninstall the game

[@zero1188]

@ exactly. I played with teams party with people who have 60Wr plus and still was losing. Played solo still lose. Switched heroes and still lost. No matter what i did i loss

[@novaa127]

I only play 180-190 matches in one season and it's always enough to reach Glory for me. On the other hand my homies play more than 500 match just to reach immortal.

[@satarbormarbaniang592]

Bro i played 900+ match one season but i just reach honor. Maybe I'm just noob

[@Nischalisstilllearning]

@novaa127 Me reached in 100 but played with squad

[@ArzastinY.]

Its probably also depends on how many matches one plays. Takes me less than 200 to get to glory as well but when I'm playing 3-5 matches a day. This season I was no life-ing ranked took around 300 to get glory. Stopped playing for few days, only played 2-3 matches after returning and matchmaking is normal again.

[@novaa127]

@@Nischalisstilllearning I play solo so... Never made it to immortal

[@United_Football]

Same for me I usually get mythic in like 50-60 games glory during 150-200 games then for immo it takes around 500 games

[@leon-bk1by]

The dark sistem is SUPER real. Sometimes, my enemies are literal immortals while my teammates are stuck in Mythic. I have also seen teammates that are ACTUAL bots. The way to determine if someone is a bot or not is just look at their collection and history. They usually have good skins but have low collection points

[@shid_KUN]

Yeah I’ve experienced that there’s is literal bots

[@Devil_N_14349]

Collection poins An't same for everyone yk some good players Don rely care about skins and history can be hidden so Imo see their season matches and wr

[@leon-bk1by]

What i mean they have low collection points, i mean they LITERALLY HAVE 0 even tho they have good skins like Saber epic, Dyrroth KOF, etc. Even players that don't collect skins like me usually have SOME collection points due to the free skins that Moonton gives. Bots can't hide their history + their WR and matches vary from ranks so the best way is to see their collection.

[@Galaxy_Guyguy]

Happened to me this morning im legend 5 and i got matched against mg 50+ stars players

[@exlokai2319]

Bro same! 🥹😭

[@blaze1019]

I beat dark system a lot of time but it always gets darker and darker until it becomes the void system.

[@someoneelse29]

Once I carried my entire team and got 31 kills but we still lost bcuz of my dumb teammates who don't even know how to defend base

[@anouarmsaad1526]

my average game ​@@someoneelse29

[@Real_vers]

the skin colour of my teamates is the system i have

[@zir456]

​@@someoneelse29 similar except my team doesn't undersimate how to end the game, enemy strong highground yet they always war when the lord not there yet😒

[@Jerooooooooooomeeeee8899]

i had noticed that at noon, night and midnight is where the "dark system" happens, i once had a trick that got me to mythic easily, where i play early in the morning, and in the afternoon before evening

[@Crygear]

That's because 70% of the player base are busy or sleeping during early day to noon, after that all logs in.

[@xSapphiiree]

It’s the absolute worst between 1am -3 am in NA.

[@domtom1760]

Any suggestions for Indian players?

[@takarsonamtara6485]

For me early morning game was the worst experience tho'

[@whatisyour8Name]

From my experience, i think when you have high winrate, moonton will try hard to team you up with atleast 3 dark system.. aka a chou exp/zilong and 250ms gusion hyper players.

[@lokeshrvk1577]

Exactly

[@teki2037]

Thats true because for reach mythic early season my win rate was 75%-80% and now it dropped down to like 57% 58% .. when i solo i always match up with duo's or trio's with combined iq of 2-3 ... or players with 500-1000 ranked matches this season with win rates with 40%🥲

[@lokeshrvk1577]

@@teki2037 yeh I also think , it's all about winrate. When u have high winrate moneytoon will be like :- here now carry 3 bots🥲🥲

[@Anibalf666]

Aulus mains

[@Niraj-os2dz]

Bro moonton also add same main role player in one lobby.(Ex:3 main mm role in single lobby)

[@Aska222]

I dont understand why moonton wants the better players to carry the noobs to higher rank. Isnt the point of rank system to filter out the different skilled players and match them with similar skill players? Why is moonton trying to boost the noobs to higher rank? I see some players even in mythic rank and question how the hell they even reached mythic with barely 50% wr or even lower like how??? 🤦🏼‍♀️

[@stevepan-nr8vt]

Same system in HOK in chinese server. Now everyone has a 50% winrate😅, unless you are the best in the server...

[@lattyarlinnko3342]

I also experienced the actual dark system on my alt acc. I was on a win streak in epic . When i searched for a match, it was very long for an epic rank(it was 1 and a half minutes). From that point on, i knew i got matched up with dark systems. There were 2 gold laners and 2 exp laners. Of course, we got destroyed, and i got my first silver on my alt account in this season .

[@servantofgod1724]

Well you shouldn't smurf

[@md.miftahulislamratin.5580]

Do you realize that you are contributing to the "Dark System" yourself ? The reason for that is you smurf .

[@Binzob]

oh no you got idiots who double pick in epic no WAY bro. it must be dark system

[@jasongrace6988]

@@Binzob HAHAHAHA PEAK SARCASM

[@J.J_Braun]

​@@BinzobThere is no any dark system. Just your teammates made a dumb since the beginning, that's all.

[@Officiating281]

It's hard as a solo roamer in the dark system constantly getting blamed for not roaming when they start feedin and kill stealing while trying to save the game😂

[@Galaxy_Guyguy]

Really

[@lakraknjeprak2536]

this is why i play as angela whenever she is not banned during draft pick because i'm literally just sitting in our base and cast ulti on someone a few seconds later for the entire match. by the time i'm done with ulti the cooldown refreshes. it almost like cheating and i abuse the fact that i cannot get hit when i'm inside teammates so defensive items are all useless and i build full magic items.

[@Lifejdieie]

Yea being a solo roamer is hard especially when your teammates aren't the best. One tip is to only initiate when your team is near you and you're sure that the enemy will die. If you're a support, stick close to your strongest teammate and focus more on healing and providing vision for him. If it still doesn't work, maybe it's time to pick a new role or hero that can carry, like meta jungle heroes(Ling, Hayabusa, Fanny, Alpha etc. ) or gold lane heroes(Miya, Moskov, Claude etc. )

[@jhonfelmarretuya7167]

6:03 The evidence that the enemy on the second game is the level of the user acc, because their highest rank is still legend and the level of the profile is high that can only achieve in higher ranks, and if you look at their collection rank they're still "new collector" while the saber using a legend skin on the match.

[@Gunny177caliber]

Best way to avoid dark system is take rest after a lost And always pick strong late game hero and definitely not Joy

[@iamislamtb]

Why ? I have +100 matches with joy with 80% wr

[@jayalonzo7999]

I would play classic after a loss, then after several losses, I would return to the rank games and I would win. That was two years ago though when the win rate is computed differently.

[@Gunny177caliber]

@jayalonzo7999 nowadays rank matches are way harder than a year ago, I used to win for a whole 5 days but now idk man

[@lwrencex._4837]

Joy is a strong pick rn tbh it depends on the player

[@jurovievalezio2707]

No isn't, joy shits when ur team is a shits

[@shizudexterity-un9uj]

dark system is a thing, but people dont realize that THEY could be the dark system, ive seen alot of people that perform really bad and instantly start blaming the team, they are probably the very same people that complain about the dark system, i do lose cuz of terrible players sometimes but i dont like to immediately justify my defeat with "dark system" instead i see what ME did wrong and try to improve, cuz ppl that only blame others and never themselves will never improve (and ofc sometimes u just try ur best play perfectly yet still lose, in that case u can blame the dark system)

[@Anibalf666]

Got a yu zhong that died 21 times, we still won but the match lasted 32 minutes

[@shizudexterity-un9uj]

@@Anibalf666 dam thats crazyy

[@sah6._]

I dont agree with “people who blames others are the ones that don’t improve” or whatever. There are trollers and bad players that you much with when u r actually trying to rank up and it becomes so frustrating that you start pointing out the mistakes in the chat to these players and sometimes it works and we win and sometimes it dosen’t and let’s not forget the game will put bots in your team if u were in a win streak, so no. I don’t agree with u

[@ritchevicera7298]

​@@sah6._ I only notice the bots when I lost 2x in a row but I don't know during winstreak cause Im not checking teammates if I'm winning. Thanks bro gonna check that if got lucky with long winstreak again.

[@aleks-lj9yq]

dropping from 70 winrate to 44 at start of this season is dark system it's not my fucking problem sorry

[@m.dinesh1401]

If u are winning then dark system is with enemies 😅

[@OXONAKEPI]

😂😂😂

[@adityachakraborty3510]

😂💀🤣

[@StarkyStalion]

yeah one sided match also winning because of like you said or loosing because its in your team 😂😂😂

[@Anvador_suiiii]

Bro idk why ppl chose mastered heros in classic it frustrated me cause i want to learn heros there and opponents think they are pro i was trying granger and opponents are ganking me and trash talking 😂😂😂😂

[@chaieangchheang8392]

Haha I know right usually that one ‘pro’ classic only guy start to trash talk like chill I just testing hero that I never even played once since it came out 😂

[@FRN_EZ7]

You can practise it vs ai, vs ai in hard mode is actually good

[@6kcuf976]

omg bro thats it its like they playin for they life so serious

[@вєѕт-р7ю]

​@@chaieangchheang8392 why play classic for practice?? Moonton gave a special place for practice heroes classic is ment for pushing winrate that we loss on rank dumb players like you make others winrate more lowerr

[@Yukiatshu]

Practise in Vs AI hard mode cause it's way better and stronger than ur enemy also they don't trash talk . I just mute them too

[@Pain256]

On Saturday morning, I had 5 stars, and BOOM! By Sunday morning, I had 25 stars, and my win rate increased from 50% to 54%.

[@robloxtrivias]

How

[@skyrisetempest1452]

Biggest dark system I experince is from classic. My team highest was me being mythic and everyone around legend and below legend. Enemy team have mythical honor and all above mythic.

[@ritchevicera7298]

It's classic bru you matchup with any rank. I even made a new warrior rank acount to farm achievements on classic to get a lot of coins to buy hero. Since I have a 20+ winstreak I matchup with immortals as a warrior rank.

[@thor9562]

Same! Honestly I couldn’t even play classic because I always ended up being teamed up with dumdums.

[@ryantokisaki7878]

It's impossible to avoid it. When you're losestreak this Season that means you're included in the batch of players of losestreak. Every season there's a Lose Streak and Win Streak batch. There are different kinds of Winstreak/Losestreak-the mild, normal and lastly is the Aggressive. Aggressive mode is scary because Moontoon will do everything to make the Enemy Team win which includes making the enemy team have higher damage

[@takerufujiwara1612]

I think you are right last season i won most of the time even im bronze and im always practicing that time new heroes but in this season even i adjust and compute every decision making if i die only once the enemy can get momentum immediately

[@LolitaExpress212]

12:15 Regen Heroes like Alpha are very good in lower ranks because nobody ever buy ANTI HEAL

[@prof_jesus]

Today, a Hanabi bought blue roam in the first minute and later complained that she's getting dominated despite our several warnings that it would significantly reduce her early gold farm and that it would be hard for our tank to level up fast for his Lv4 CC skill. I wanna know what she was doing in mythic honour and glory lobby? Seriously, by the time we reach Mythic in general, we have a basic understanding of how things work. Sure, maybe we haven't all heroes to fully counter any hero drafts but, we know how and what to do in the game that could compromise basic gameplay. Sure enough, we lost very easily, and she just kept complaining like she was totally dominating and we were at fault.

[@mattymaticsversion1.097]

I actually stopped playing this game for like more than a year and went back to playing recently. My rank was Epic when I started playing again then after like a a few hours of playing I've ranked up to Legend then the strange thing happened when I was stuck in Legend for almost a month because I've always ended up losing. I stopped playing again for 3 or 4 weeks then I've ranked up to Mythic easily. Started getting very good team mates, knows there roles, knows how to rotate and always aware of what's going on the mini map. Well, thanks for this video as this actually explains why I've lost so many times. 😁

[@MrJoe6667]

I am playing this game since 2017 and i have encountered many dark things like if you lose consecutive matches montoon gives u a bot match to win(till low mythic 13-14 stars). Sometimes my matches are like this 4 loss 4 wins 4 loss 4 wins. Also if you get reported coz you fed enemy, trolled or whatsoever and if your credit score comes dow, montoon will match you up with the worst teammates. Also if you keep winning too much montoon will math you up with noob trio so that you will lose. I feel the game isnt skill oriented but rigged when you can win, when you can lose and when there will be a head to head match(some skill requires in such matches). By skill means the mechanics if the game, hero counters etc. coz when you pick a stronger exp than your enemy it becomes an easy laning phase.

[@julliferjosephtuba2202]

probably played too early in the season. First week of season reset, all the hundred-star immortal players are still at legend/low mythic. After a few weeks all those immortal players will have climbed up to their proper ranks, and the legend-mythic matches will be back to normal, that's why you find those games much easier after a while.

[@zzzlulzzz5080]

*player loses 3 times in a row because of skill issue, lack of map awareness, bad decisions, 1v5ing. Player : "it must be the dark system."

[@iloveyelan1]

I don't really think its a skill issue to get 2 bronze 5 times in a row

[@antiloap6297]

Hoon joined the chat

[@ThatNameless_Guy]

If he plays fine or gets MVP, but made a mistake, that not his fault actually, especially when you have a mediocre teammates

[@rawrharry8772]

@zzzlulzzz5080 then how you separate good players from bad players besides a squad?

[@gamescgg6864]

Explain it to me how it’s my fault to lose 3 in row, where I have an amazing start, but all the other 3 or 4 random teammates died many times in a row at the start and made the enemies be more fed than me. The random teammates kept dying the whole match and from mid game to late game I would be mainly only 1 alive from the team. Their winrate being minimum at 43% winrate and highest at 52% winrate. While I would be only one at 60% and over. The opponents lowest winrate being 58% and most of them close to 70% winrate. How is this not a dark system from them game? How would this be a lack of skill, map awareness and bad decisions fault from me? Also how else would I end up spending most of the fights if my team is dead most of the match? 3 times in a row mvp loss and the rest of the team silver and bronze or even 4 bronzes next to my mvp loss. MLBB does have dark system issue for unbalanced matching

[@mahdij9662]

9:45 enemy win-win and ur team lose-lose its kinda psychological so u tell yourself "Here we are let's lose again" especially if ur a solo player

[@hehehe_12345]

Dark system that i encountered: -when im using my main hero (for mmr) -always the first game. -3 lose streak and so on. -when you team up with 2players in the recruitment lobby( not always) - They really love to put you in a team where you and your allies have the same role (and ending up losing regardless if you adjust or not).

[@GodKingKarma]

Facts

[@hom3alone]

Moontoon should have a pure “solo que” and “multiplayer/party que” its stated solo que but after match your mix with 2-2 or 3players party.. 😢

[@StarkyStalion]

its clearly moontrash being moontrash but other moba has solo and multi-que...8 years and still like this

[@julliferjosephtuba2202]

worst games as a solo player is getting trio teammates, because the enemy team will also have trio. The game result 100% relies on the skill gap between the opposing trio, and my solo plays have little to no impact on the outcome. If I get the worse trio, it's a guaranteed loss already. One way i try to avoid this scenario is that when I notice I got trio team, I immediately try to take the Jungler role. This way, me as a solo player will have a higher stake on the outcome of the game.

[@kirtanpradeep4437]

DA BEST IN THE WEST - RALDIE KUN~ , overall a great analysis and indepth response towards a grave issue in the MLBB community , can see you at the top soon

[@note11s53]

i feel you bro, same happened to me, from 2-3 games, its begins to hard to play, including the net performance, you're teammates sometime sucks,lol, not, I've watched you're,now i know what to do, I'll follow you're phase, thanks for the info bro, god bless.

[@HyperionIsntInTheHand]

I’m a new player who started 13 days ago. I really liked the game at first when I was only playing Classic mode. Then, once I unlocked Ranked, I started grinding it. I did a lot of research on equipment, heroes, lanes, and strategies. I had heard about the Dark System, but I didn’t know what it was. Day before yesterday, I ranked up from Epic 3, 3 stars to Epic 2, 5 stars. After that, I logged off. Yesterday, I logged on early hoping to reach Legend, but I started losing and dropped 3 stars. I played a Classic match and did some more research to improve, but it didn’t help. Now, I’m back to Epic 3, 0 stars. It’s really frustrating when my opponents are far better than me, and it feels demotivating after losing continuously.

[@LuminyMyst]

I'm having problem with the dark system. I have played so much in my account, absolute normal maybe sometimes some dumb teammate. However everytime i used my cousin's account, every single match teammate dark system with such worse playstyle, no talking,every time soloing. The only way to make it dissapear is by going on 2-5 Q. Is it because the server or matchedmaking? Checking the teams profile and enemy, teammates-epic and legends. Enemy-legend and mythic

[@RaldRhines]

overall its better to 2-5 Q ofc, but for solo in epic-legend its best to use heroes who can solo carry the most(no hero can completely solo carry) and stop when you lose, but that's about it

[@LuminyMyst]

​@@RaldRhines welp ig theres no ways to stop meeting these dark system players 🗿 thx for the tips . Maybe we need a video top 10 heroes to solo carry depends on ranks,roles and one trick

[@phoneix192]

​@@LuminyMyst won't work either way. I use fanny matches 4k and winrate 69. And now on immortal 561* Just know how to farm wen to gank and who to mark who to stay away from and when to do objective and wen to end the game Asap. I always end the game by 9-12 min range. I keep killing opponent main DMG dealer reducing their farm and level this way even if Allies are noub they can still deal enough DMG due to farm gap. The given above works great on solo queue both high rank and low rank. It's not like I get good team. I hv winrate at 76% and i always get 48-52% winrate teammates along with low star. But it's just that my skills on fanny is too good moneytoon can't hire a better developer to stop my fav hero. Just so u know when I use joy,fanny,ling,Clint,Miya, zilong,paquito,minsitter,alpha,fredrin,wanwan,kagura, cyclops, i can carry the game much easier on solo queue due to their escape,chase,burst, durability,immune, pushing, and low skill cooldown. There are better choice there but from my side learning fanny is peak if u wanna rank up to immortal by 150 matches every season.

[@LuminyMyst]

​@@phoneix192 i farmed a lot but its kinda useless because not ganking and letting the sidelaner enemy gets fed. Shut them down, but no used. Every time i played, theres gonna roam grock who is playing absolute kiboy mode (useless af)

[@phoneix192]

@@LuminyMyst that's why need to mark or ignore the good ones and bad ones. Incase u fail to mrk the good players try to outnumber the opponent. This way even if they are good they will hesitate to fight back.

[@ForbiddenInstincts]

I actually had the dark system get me when I was on a 3 win streak mythic 20 stars 😭 I checked the enemy and one was 246 stars and another was 447 stars and I was solo queued my team was mythic one epic 💀

[@PamsZawir]

cmiw when they're picking heroes they will pick automatically and look how their movements they usually had only new collector/no skins at the profile but can use the skins sorry if oot

[@Sjgamer01]

Best tips who wanna rank up 1.Go trio mid (hyper, tank, mm) they must be good . Rotate gold lane try to dominate don't take unnecessary fight, After taking lord don't clear lane learn how to synchronize minion with lord And we definitely win. Good luck 😊 Btw i reached glory in only 77 match.

[@asmarandeiluciana7825]

It recently happened to me, after an MVP in classic, to lose 15 matches regardless of whether it was ranked, classic or brawl.

[@osrsmobilepk5638]

I can 100% confirm, if you play more than 2-4 matches a day you can still go on a winstreak later. Going off after a lose is not going to help you reach as many stars as you could. You just have to be harsh and replace your teammates that played bad. Remember even if someone is strong in a lower rank, doesnt mean he will perform well in higher rank. I made many friends on my journey from 0->100 stars. I remembered some strong jungle and marksman that carried me in 0-25 stars but once i invited them when i was 50+, suddenly they just couldnt handle the enemies niveau. So even if someone has high winrate with few matches played, it doesnt mean they can handle the next step. Legend, 0 mythic, 25, 50 & 100. its all different stages of difficulty. So watch out when recruiting, you want to make sure the people you recruit are same rank stage. Sure a lower rank will help you get lower rank enemies but its too great a risk to try this with randoms.

[@iamislamtb]

Niveau ! French I see bonjour mon croissant

[@Forever_2424]

I experience this daily i always gets epic teammates while i am in mythic like how they are coming in mythic lobby

[@CLONEBF]

Probably duo or trio playing with mythic friends. "People that hold you back"

[@Whotfru...]

Flex team

[@Forever_2424]

@@Whotfru... Why moneytoon had to pair them with me only

[@amanosatoshitranslates]

flex rank dark system edition

[@Whotfru...]

@@Forever_2424 u look cute may be.

[@Drxk_Lamaok]

Yeah, it really is. "Don't play too much on rank once you loose just stop and play later". I also experience that when i get 6th win streak and my 7th game became so bad and i ended up loosing and i keep playing and looses another 2 star. Tips: •use different server •pick a good hero •don't spam rank (stop once you loose) •don't trash talk and became toxic •Do one trick

[@Khamba1]

Yesterday i matched with teammates who had played 600 ranked matches and was still at legend 3

[@koiabweys]

Laughed when u said “our kills” then showing the logo of uncle shinmentakizo 😂😂 7:18

[@steadyplaying9113]

This game has a skill+rank based matchmaking and it depends on your statistics

[@AyansarkarAyansarkar-f1d]

Thanks for the tips man,,,,I am in dark system too,,,so it helps a lot

[@0Teusday0]

Sometimes when I suspect bots/dark system, I stalk my allies and enemies. I can tell they are really dark system if they have no skins in their collection. Great advice in the end. 👍

[@sosndmdkxkxmxx]

7:18 nice shinmen takezo reference

[@zarent01]

I quit ML for two years, went from Mythic to Grandmaster, came back in April 2024. I believe back then there wasn't any dark system. There were bad teammates but not as bad as now. My winrate used to be quite steady. It's already quite suspicious they started adding bots in ranked matches despite the very fast matchmaking. It happens when you lose streak or haven't played a long time. Also the steep difficulty in getting last star to rank up (Mythic, Mythical Honor). My winrate went down to the 50s. Once I researched, I realised they'll force you to a certain winrate and if you keep playing, it feels like they rigged the matches to auto-lose. This was in season 32. Now my winrate is healthy cuz I switch up classic and rank and not play consistently. I do feel like being tryhard vs casual affects what players you play with.

[@xBaconzG]

Dark system exists, it literally took me 1000 ranked matches to reach legend just because of my teammates. And most of my teammates are just kids who were lucky to get good teammates, thats how they were already in mythic/legend. I saw my friends history that he kept feeding, yet he still won because of his teammates. How come mlbb gives actual good players bad teammates but bad teammates the good teammates?

[@banz_3]

Go. Touch. Grass. NOW

[@hlanhtetaung6631]

@Kencupfo fr man 1000 matches to get legend is INSANE. Brother is just straight ASS

[@Skibid_ippo]

If you took 1k match to reach legend maybe you should just delete the game

[@quebers]

How does it takes you 1k ranked matches just to reach legendary? Bro you are dark system at this point.

[@CARA-m10]

@xBacconzG 1k matches😂 u r the dark system!!

[@jayalonzo7999]

Your first method works. I did the same about two years ago. But rather than hop out of the game I would play classic in order to "use up my bad luck". Also, I experienced another effect of dark system. I won a duel, but the game crashed. When I returned to the game, the record shows that it is me who lost in the duel. It was weird.

[@LilSoftieGacha]

The Dark System is actually real! I couldn't reach mythic 15 stars! I had no choice but wear girl clothes and girl school uniforms

[@HarshSingh-rn8hx]

One time i was with a team with good teamwork (voice chat was on) and we were on a winning streak of 5 or 6 games but all of a sudden we started getting Mythical Immortal players (complete squad) with 250 stars current ranking (lowest was 150 stars) and my whole team's ranking was Mythical Honor. And this didn't happen just once, we consecutively got paired up 3 times with such players (It was 5am btw). So how is dark system not real.

[@AntoineMoctezuma]

I totally agree, 2 to 4 games take a break or if don't wanna take a break play like 2 brawls and then ull feel again like u wanna be around the map so the feeling of wanting to play kicks in again.

[@Samdwich.Stealer]

Am Epic and I use martis but here's my proof that dark system is real Here's the story I got maniac on martis while playing and out of no where we start losing ang my team didn't help me Team fight while am alone on the back and four of them at the front of our tower Then we go wiped out of BECUESE they didn't help me like they are scared to get 1 hit on them like What was that matched

[@michaelr323]

Okay let me explain to you people how dark system works, it's mostly about mind games people who are on lose streak will mostly lose their hope and enter negative mindset that's when you will work under dark system without even you realising it, there are ways that you can get tangled with dark system, either you are on win streak, about to level up or after you started losing 2 or more match on rank up(where you will start working under dark system), let's say you are on win streak and about to level up to next rank, now dark system will give you team full of people on lose streak, so you either carry them up with luck and skills, or you lose,so you get really desperate for win and your mind won't be calm, you will make lot of mistakes, you won't play even with 30% of your original skills, you will just keep playing desperately to rank but instead you will keep losing cuz none in your team will be on right mind to play well cuz they got lose streak too, at this time you will keep getting people on lose streak, this is what really happens, so how to get out of dark system, it's exactly as the guy said in video, don't play continuously, give a break between your win streak, or always play with squad, if you don't have any, when you lose match at time of rank up, just take a break, or don't lose your mind in negativity and nervousness, so you can carry team(which is not possible for normal human being after continuously losing for more than 2 match on rankup). dark system's work method is to match you up with most of your squad members on lose streak, that's how you enter lose streak too, that's when you work under dark system

[@Kasuokun]

I can relate to your technique. I win most of the time when playing fewer games. Whenever I start grinding and spamming ranked, the more I feel the shitty matchups. The game gives me low credit score players too even if my credit score is perfect.

[@MADARA34198]

This video changed my life thank you 😄

[@Cawe_D]

12:00 Cec is effective in most ranks, I play solo with him and build semi-tank, he’s unkillable and has crazy damage in late game

[@justfate5912]

Yoooow shinmen takezo reference right there

[@harusu8610]

feeder team is so real. i'm literally hardstuck in epic because of them. it feels like winning or losing depends more in luck than skill itself nowadays.

[@Devil_N_14349]

I think after playing a rank match you should play 2 arcade mode game or brawl then hop in to rank again by that i think you Won't be paired up with those egg head teammates.... It worked for me and yeah some times you can lose but i reached a 9 winning streak by this method

[@funfunfun-mi9ji]

I just stop playing at mythic 15 every season (for mythic coins and mythic skin) You can beat dark system on lower ranks with right heroes but on on mythic. It's just very stressful afterwards. Either the enemies are too good, or the allies are too bad. Have currently 79 games at 69 winrate. also following this man's tip of not playing for too many games in a row.

[@zaspartans2046]

lol , i felt the same. i just reached mythic second time but after I reached I noticed people picking hero that I have not seen picking that much in lower rank and for some people they have like 1k match of few hero's and I see them perform soooooo badly that makes me think how he even have the win rate, so for example I saw a guy with 1.5k in hanabi and then he feed a lot but his win rate was nearly 60%.

[@EnlightendBeast999]

I think the real rarity here is him finding an entire team that didnt have match history hidden

[@rabbitinthemoon8981]

As a guy who play countless tournaments The difference is Solo Rg isnt about Skill base and luck Its just random unlike 5 man Solo que you either get a good or bad players in your team The team that have more advantage and knowledge wins the game

[@Alexander-2956]

No amount of matchmaking changes would make MOBAs perfect. Because the truth of the matter is, the "terrible" teammates isn't really someone whos always terrible. The terrible teammate is really anybody and anyone who has a bad game at that certain moment or game. Remember that you also get bronze, from your teammates' perspective, they see you as that "terrible teammate".

[@NineCharm]

I actually find some of your tricks related bc I recently findout that if I continuously play I will lose for sure even I try my best or have the best team

[@Fei0428]

And I also think it's not cool incident the enemy rank is legend maybe it's just them using other ID

[@e11even-o1p]

i dont play rank from the start of the season, i just do classic and brawls for dailies and wait for the last month of the end season and grind my way to glory because all bad players are stuck in low rank while good players have already reached high ranks a long time ago. and after two months of only playing classic i have learned the meta of the season and i know who to ban which makes it easier for me to pick my comfort heroes.

[@AnmolYadav-jl1hx]

Bro once i was playing with my squad, our squad was having everyone below honour, than we got matched with a team which was having all the players above glory and 2 or 3 were immortal. I got matched with that team 2 times and lost, their teamwork was just mind-blowing.

[@Sushiloveratsushi]

Its always when im ONE STAR AWAY from ranking up.. its so frustrating having to win and then lose and then win then lose..JUST LET ME RANK UP

[@Keroro2593]

*Spent the entire video gathering evidence that shows dark system is not real. * Conclusion: Dark system is real

[@Averageシ675]

I'm stuck on Mythical Honor cuz of darksystem

[@veryoriginalusername656]

THE DARK SYSTEM! THE DARK SYSTEM IS REAL!

[@tiltedmoon101]

You were the dark system...playing against teams of solo players. You skillful and your friend.

[@bss48]

here in Indonesia, there is a substitute player or a rental player to help carry up the noobs rank. one only need to pay 10$ to get the mythic rank so the best way to get a fun game, is to play with friends. don't solo.

[@Mugetsu-xf8tn]

honestly speaking Its not about Dark System, you win some, you loss some. no one in this world will have 100% win rate. The point is, you should know when to take a break, just coz u get like 10-30 win streak don't mean u will keep on winning, while u and ur team were winning, ur mind become relax. But, when the loss strikes u, ur mind become frustrated and enter try hard mode. The harder u try the more Frustrated ur mind become. if this is called Dark System then there is Dark System in everything we do.

[@iwjfhaifn2950]

Best option to avoid dark system is to just play once a day🤣 i did it and it was always a win 5:27 you could have ended game here but didn't 💀

[@RaldRhines]

yeah, but 1-2 of the enemies were about to respawn and that's legend lobby so my allies are at lord instead of pushing(i needed atleast someone to fight the enemies)

[@ryomensukuna4408]

Bro i played so much with darksystem, even at a time it make me going crazy, like there this match where i play exp lane, at span of 4 min i manage to kill and gank mid, thus the enemy literally mark me, most of the match while i getting gank by 4 man inside bottom tower. All 4 of my teammate cant even fight a fanny and lose a turtle(top lane).game goes several minutes of enemy keep ganking me and none of my team help me.until *my team decide to surrender* early and then blame me...and you know what i got bronze while 4 of my team got silver despite i get most kill,what can i do they keep 4man diving my turret while no teammate help me.they were busy fighting fighting minion/creep and fanny mybe. then they blame me.man sometime try to play the game normally dont work with darksystem, what i should've done is stop going to my lane and wander around like my teammate play.

[@Dronoa]

I play a solid 10 win streak solo, then suddenly my teammates are lobotomized for the next 20 matches

[@vespers6862]

I Feel I should say this... but, I think the 'system' also gives u a hidden debuff in those set to fail matches. And of course, random lag spikes. (The lag spikes 'conveniently' happened just as I was about to enter a skirmish ( 1 to 2 secs before ) and when I get inside an enemy's turrets range. (You can imagine what happens there) 😢 idk. I think there's a bit more to it all....

[@PANHASAK-z9z]

Oh Lord send help I managed to climb all the way to honor 49 stars three times in one day and now I'm at 43 stars I swear to God it I lose one more match Im deleting this game

[@tenmakenzo9994]

it's very very simple dark system is basically if you lose one you'll be teamed up with the players with losing streak and vice versa TIP: if you loose two in a row stop the game and play after 1-2 hours..

[@lithium2696]

I think it's makes your game purposely and intently harder. It gives you the necessary setting to grow stronger since you NEED to carry the team in order to win, and I think that is a good thing. It does not let you get things easily, that'll be too boring. In my opinion, the most important characteristic needed to reach the highest ranks is actually being persistent in climbing.

[@emma_paniova]

I think there IS a system, the system that makes you want to play more and more... creating addiction

[@edjaedavid6362]

I am playing in Japan server. I used to play in PH server. However, when I move to Japan, it is one of the hardest servers at times. It is because I usually get lots of feeders, trolls and trashtalkers. I only play 100 to 150 games which used to be enough for mythic honor. I cannot play more than anymore these days because of work. But, my gosh! The games in PH server make me feel so nervous because many times, both teams are so good. Here in Japan server, I get so many MVP losses. 😢😢😢

[@decentraIize]

bro i once had a team full of honors fighting against glory and ex immortals 😭🙏

[@BlueGD_209]

7:27 EY EY EY YOO CHILL BRO💀🙏

[@lolthunderstorm2344]

Dark systems in not only about win rates. Dark system also end up matching with players that plays same roles and create unbalance in team.

[@EllieGoodie]

Hm, although i actually keep practicing the lane switching then instantaneous lane switch It works often for me but it takes a huge amount of mental effort to actually see when to attack and basically break through the toughest defense It's like playing chess, once you played an absolute combo type of move, you eventually win the game in the end

[@hossainalif3909]

I agree with u.... Spamming rank when solo is a bad idea....

[@rishandy]

Dark system is real for old accounts have lots of heroes and skins but rarely pay. To create dark system is easily up/down stats slightly, no one will notice it,and really difficult to proof. The other things is nowadays people pays people to up their ranks and when they get their account back, their skill not improve.

[@Samuelclinton725]

@Rald You're 100% right. The dark system, 80% of the players are AI for real, no joke. Watch their movement patterns and your teams. You'll see it's same with AI in training mode

[@hotroom3235]

Right, people say that the profiles look genuine but.. those can be automatically generated too

[@Samuelclinton725]

@hotroom3235 right bro. Who knows how many hundreds of thousands of autogenerated profiles moonton must have done. And these AI in rank mode does the most craziest things like map hack, running faster than you despite the AI lacks movement speed ability both. Insane CD, damage and to prove it to you, During teamfights, your team will be automatically debuffed and the enemy will only autolock you until you're dead, then they wipe your team after that. Even if you're far from them, your team and enemy AI will engage, nothing happens, but when you get closer, enemy AI in rank will instakill your team, to make things worse enemy AI wont even use their ult, the moment you appear they ult you instantly and gg you're back to base

[@boneskytv1202]

Wow nice one idol so strong great game keep it up full support💟💟💟 new subscriber here idol😍

[@ampred750]

in addition. when a new season starts, wait for at least 1 week before ranking up.

[@grishshrestha2549]

A piece of advice : Never play solo rank after midnight . So I am currently at immo rank 197 stars with highest rank being 262stars... And I love playing at around midnight .. They matchmake me duo/trio glory players with at least one legend player every time whilst 3-4 enemy being immortals. damn its horrible . There's no way the average 50-55 stars can take on 200+ stars enemy on a 1v1 fight . And that legend player !! goshhh they shouldn't be allowed to join a glory plus lobby or matchmake with them. Even if mythic, honor, glory and immo are kept in same "mythical" pool , the skill diff and game sense diff is hugeee . I mean I can take at least 2/3 of normal mythic player on my own if the gold and exp factors are same. No hate to any legend players as I myself have passed through that phase . It's just that moontoon's matchmaking is so fked up right now.

[@broungo]

I have two account. I stared ranking up my first account and i able to get 21stars with playing less than 120 matches . Then i start ranking up my 2nd account. I played more than 175 matches and still not able to get 15stars. I really think some servers are harder then others.

[@MarioZeppelin]

When you play alone you'll get to experience the "dark system".

[@MrArse2687]

Everytime you're about to reach a new rank dark system strikes

[@kekedesu6020]

Its very common nowadays in pvp multiplayer games to have a similar system. The way I see it is with this system it feels like it accommodates bad players to somehow have a good game and if they end up liking the game and get addicted this type of players that would usually spend on skins or anything to the game. Targeting the larger crowd for money. Its business not really a game anymore. When you play other games for example Cod you will feel the same aswell. Modern games tbh are just business...."mostly".

[@yuuunarukami7006]

it is indeed real... eg: today i played in epic-legend, playing nana since i wanted to practice her in rank... my team had 2 mm going 2 13 3 (beatrix), 3 13 6 (miya) and chou going 1 10 1... now i admit i didnt play as well too since i only went 14 7 5 but still, if that aint the dark system acting up idk what it will be then...

[@nestadimsun4658]

Its not a dark system, its the algorithm of the game, which every game has.

[@Simpoon-x9r]

I cannot deny that the dark system exists, but I also cannot deny that luck plays a role. For example, on one account, I played 120-150 matches to achieve glory, whereas on another, I achieved glory in only 90 matches while playing solo with a 21-win streak.

[@FriedPotatoaa]

I have a brother who's confident in rank so I always play with him,only problem is he always gets angry so he can lose focus in a game