Is The DAS System Back In F1 On The Mercedes W15?

[@alturkeiabdullah]

This has been noticed during the baku gp too. Very interesting tbh

[@F1Unchained]

as well as monza

[@Bananananananannananananna]

@@F1Unchainedso is it on tracks with lot of straights. Baku, vegas and monza have that in common. But they werent that competitive in baku ans monza so ifs confusing.

[@11348]

You guys are smart enough. No telemetry data about those tire temp chart and speculating just from that video. Lot of ppl think they're superior thinker as good as Albert Einstein in social media era 😂

[@Bananananananannananananna]

@@11348 do you have anything better? If not then u got no right to comment either lol.

[@Suicidalsheep]

@@11348 yeah putting people down for wondering and questioning stuff has always been a great idea right.

[@HabitualLine-Stepper]

Mercedes: We have no idea why we're fast

[@fisophia1734]

Yes😎🥰🤩🖤🔥

[@FYR3Z.]

In reality, they know *exactly* why they’re fast… 😂

[@thatpersonthatguy]

Well, the “ground effect era” Mercedes has been particularly poor in warm or hot temperatures but quite good in cool or even cold conditions. Yes a car does change but certain aspects of a car stick around for Mercedes one of those sticking aspects is them being better on their tires in cold temperatures. Be it temperature or wear, Mercedes is great somehow in cold temps. It’s actually a problem most of the time and is probably a big reason merc isn’t always at the front. So this is a characteristic of the Mercedes ground effect car. They don’t know why but it happens. But ever since the new regs Mercedes has been a top performing car in the cold. They haven’t been the only week performing car in the cold but clearly the cars are getting close to the peak in this regulation. So the car being suited to certain conditions is basically one of the three deciding factors of a weekend. Especially if your car seems to excel (relative to other cars) in certain conditions.

[@byanymeansnecessary9329]

merc are claiming that they have been suffering from rear tire overheating and the cold temps helped keep them in check. DAS would not effect the rear tires.

[@paulsterling2610]

​@@byanymeansnecessary9329you may not be 100% correct remember no part of the f1 car to borrow a cliche is an island so you can affect the behavior of the front wheels which down stream can affect rear tire temps. Remember in the past merc developed blown wheel hubs and wheels to manage tire temps but the were originally trying to solve issues with the front tire temps and brake temps but they realized this could be applied to the rear tires as well

[@thequartermafia7735]

Good enough, welcome back W11.

[@F1Unchained]

not quite hahhahaha

[@musaedits1115]

Only welcome if we won the championship

[@Agdem_]

W11 had DAS for like a week during testing before it got banned and was way faster than this car wtf.

[@eriksaram2736]

​@@Agdem_i think they alowed it just for one season

[@Shambley1]

All these eagle eyed twitter videos just make me realize how much cheating may have happened back in the day and the public just never found out about it. Even something like the McLaren rear wing would have never even been noticed without the numerous cameras we have on the cars these days and the millions of people who have access to the footage.

[@simonkevnorris]

Back in the early 80s the FIA introduced a minimum ride height (6cm I believe) - the problem was the ride height could only be measured in the pits! Brabham (Gordon Murray) came up with a hydro-pneumatic suspension that when the car was at speed it would squash itself down and the car would get ground effect back. Needless to say this gave Brabham a huge advantage and other teams came up with different systems. I think one team just installed what looked like a gear lever with 'up/down' - maybe to get the systems banned. As you pointed out the cameras have improved in quality over the years as well to be lightened.

[@ale69420]

Historically teams were in charge of policing themselves on these matters. Then journalist became the main source, I rembember the Photographer that discovered the 2nd brake pedal in the Mclarens of early 2000's. Thank god for social media nowadays

[@TheJGJR9]

u woulda thought they woulda caught the rear wing earlier the dots on the rear wing were put there for that very reason

[@JehovahSharma]

It's not cheating when you find a loop hole in the rules man

[@JehovahSharma]

Y'all should be marveled by this engineering, someone worked had acknowledge that

[@Dark.Valkyrie]

Will Ferrari protest? Imagine Ferrari 1 2 and Sainz winning 💀💀💀 poor Charles

[@F1Unchained]

they might try

[@michaeltelfer3483]

Ferrari don't protest things anymore, didn't do McLaren wing so why would they bother now

[@Huckleberry.69]

Those in glass houses and all that. Plus LH is on his way to Ferrari and will tell them what's going on anyway.

[@francescotrombetta8548]

Because they're f naive and i don't know why, if they did they would have won many more titles​@@michaeltelfer3483

[@neil3066]

Ferrari after 2019 may have stopped protesting 😂

[@geniferteal4178]

It's designed for warming the tires and coincidentally, this is the cold track where it would have the most benefi.

[@thekyuwa]

Basic physics: If you're braking, your body tends to keep moving forward because of inertia. The fact that Russell is consciously pulling the steering wheel towards himself, and the fact that the steering wheel actually moves at all, are both pretty fishy and weird.

[@kaveeshakarunaratne8961]

Yeah, the drivers rely on the feel they get through the steering wheel inorder to get an idea about how the front tyres are fairing. How are they supposed to read this fine haptic feedback if the steering shaft is flopping around like this? Super weird for sure.

[@sebastianvetteI]

10 sec penalty for Ocon

[@F1Unchained]

LOL

[@shunchihsust8718]

+2 super license points for Kmag😂

[@guegosilva19]

He gave himself a drive through penalty

[@sannidhyabalkote9536]

​@@guegosilva19 alpine gave him . When he went to the pits , only one guy was outside

[@mattsoup4121]

Personally, I think they’ve gone for an extremely clever suspension geometry. Remember pre season testing when they had two different suspension geometries they were trying? In braking it seems more like the brake covers are rolling forward. If so, the camber of the wheels could become a bit of toe in during braking, warming the tires a bit. This means they can go for a less aggressive alignment and lose less on the straights while still getting some heat to the tires as they enter the turn. The steering wheel moving would be a result of the suspension geometry and how it rolls forward moving the rack around, not the cause of the rolling.

[@Lanse1984]

Redbull: we are shocked how everyone caught up so quickly McLaren/Ferrari/Mercedes: oh none of us are legal lol

[@RedHaloManiac95]

If this was redbull I would be reading nothing but hate and people calling them cheaters. Funny how nothing is said

[@DavidVanSloten]

I know! You nailed it!

[@ChristopherBuenviaje]

Blame the Cult of 44. But true if this was Redbull everyone would have their pitchforks ready

[@thurbine2411]

People just have to see the brilliant engineering and then they can try to get the fia to ban it but no need to moralise and not admit that every team isn’t trying to “cheat”

[@kaystenist]

Nah do you remember the merc dominance era? Every team that dominates right now gets called cheaters. Merc are no where right now so it doesn't matter, they're gonna stay 4th in the standings.

[@tedfromyt6523]

Lol its just a design that used again

[@jampalp]

i remember making fun of the twitter post that talked about the mclaren rear wing in baku and i said that "i doubt the fia will be making decisions through f1twt". now im starting to believe that the fia might actually just relying entirely on f1twt.

[@pestfck1926]

fia might rely on X, youtube etc too

[@_bstr_ct1832]

Tbh I saw this on the pole lap. If not DAS then that steering wheel was giving me serious Imola 1994 vibes

[@Rellz2401]

I noticed this on some of the onboards throughout the year thought I was going crazy😂.

[@DT-7727]

Mercedes: i don't know what i'm doing but i love it

[@Al3xisAE]

They do know, when they can run the car stiff and low, it’s the best car by far. On bumpy tracks it needs to be raised and the performance goes

[@DT-7727]

@Al3xisAE Also, they are a lot faster when the engine is better cooled

[@magicun760]

They were pulling their steering wheel the whole season long, take a look at the Silverstone pole lap into the final chicane

[@zsoltimatyas4682]

I could sound like a idiot but maybe it could move like that under braking because he is holding onto the wheel so hard while braking and it has a little give in it ? Maybe im stupid but its very interesting

[@F1Unchained]

No definitely not dumb but you would see the same movement on the opposing teams then

[@simonkevnorris]

I would think the steering wheel column would be fairly solid and not have that much movement in it.

[@AndrewTSq]

It would be terrible to drive if it has that much play.

[@scottishhillclimb]

Check Hamiltons qualifying video from mexico, no movement

[@ancobliekendaal589]

@@scottishhillclimbLogic. Since Hamilton is leaving MB

[@MrMousekillaz]

defending a teams potential cheating while wearing the allegedly offending teams colors is sketchy

[@defenda1]

The video is about Mercedes, he always wears a shirt that's topical.

[@RedHaloManiac95]

Well the regulations say you can’t have a mechanism that you push or pull change the steering angle, so they have a mechanism that tilts 😂

[@K7L3-93]

or it changes suspension in some way

[@AreYouThereGodItsMePhil]

Just look at his steering wheel. It's not as noticeable but you can definitely tell it's moving forward and backwards.

[@kondjedes4866]

Explain to me: why on the DHL fastest lap of Vegas at 0:24 you can CLEARLY see a steering rod disconnect?

[@niss1611]

That's why they were the rocketships. Understandable.

[@F1Unchained]

Lol only cold tracks

[@bergkampdennis5673]

mercedes is just best in engineering and precision making, thats all.

[@thekyuwa]

@@bergkampdennis5673 Best at cheating, been doing that since 2013 with their secret tire tests.

[@OldGoldStef]

Maybe this is mini DAS system 😃 Like Mclaren had mini drs Maybe this thing change something else, not front wheels toe. Let’s see

[@francescotrombetta8548]

​@@bergkampdennis5673hahaahahahahaa

[@THY.HERO_x]

It feels criminal to be this early

[@F1Unchained]

[@Warlun888]

It feels more criminal to have DAS

[@mapleleafkay9824]

Very interesting! I wonder if Hamilton also has it, if it is indeed back. I’m sure he wouldn’t, since he’s going to Ferrari, but how was he so close to George without it?

[@paulowens2062]

Far better driver than george. Hamilton melds with the car , when george gets in the car he looks like a stick insect fighting with a plaster.

[@alfst5546]

Great stuff that you spotted the same thing happening on the other teams cars, maybe that will such the sceptics up 😂 👍

[@geniferteal4178]

what if they took the idea and made it automatic. Sort of so that it did provide a benefit without them, actually activating it. Maybe then they could claim it was legal. They already have the technology designed.They would just need to adapt it, so they don't directly control it. Edit: I see the steering wheel move too, so maybe not.

[@alpine_touge]

it’s illegal to have “automatic” things on the car that assist the driver, it’s in the regulation. This is why there is no abs, no traction control.

[@geniferteal4178]

@alpine_touge it didn't mean automatic like that. More like a flexible wing. That isn't automatic But it is. it's not something the driver does. maybe the suspension could be designed in such a way that under breaking it creates a similar to effect to what das might do. They used to have that thing that took the pressure on the outer tires and apply it to the inner tires to more evenly.Distribute traction in a turn. I'm sure they have a lot of ideas for stuff to develop.That hasn't specifically been outlawed. Maybe they found a way to apply some of the das idea into the existing suspension without driver control.

[@alpine_touge]

@@geniferteal4178 Ah ok got it, so something more mechanical then

[@geniferteal4178]

@alpine_touge i will admit it's a bit weird seeing the steering wheel move. you would think if it was" automatc" there would be no need for the steering wheel to actually move.

[@afcansf5996]

And on other footage you could see that Russel clearly made a "pulling movement", so for now I quess it depends on what footage ones you uses to make their point.

[@jlmpc8733]

F1 Cars require a buttload of force to brake. It is probably just russel gripping on to the wheel while pushing the braking pedal, and there is obv some flex in the connections/material

[@smokeduv]

I thought this at first and called it nonsense, but then if you see the same footage on the McLaren and the Red Bull and they don’t seem to move at all

[@Harolddespui]

Even a Lada doesn't have that much flex in the steering column.

[@zlm001]

I think the teams noticed the progression of flexing in the McLaren before people on twitter…they were complaining about it for a while.

[@famingo4363]

People were comparing this car to W11 because of the dominant pace, but who would've thought it's a literal W11

[@RicardoNogueli]

The race was at 3am here in Brasil and I thought that my mind was playing tricks on me.

[@F1Unchained]

It was so late for me as

[@elChirrinChirriondelDiablo]

@@F1Unchainedfor us in Brasil it wasn’t late, it was early, very early

[@SlendermanXXI]

For a start DAS wasn't used in this way, it was used to keep the tyres at the right temperature during warm up laps and behind SC/VSC's, also regarding this you're seeing the G force of the braking, especially on heavy braking tracks like Las Vegas, Baku etc you're going to see a lot more movement, there's a lot of loads going through the front axis, regarding the wheel moving it's just loads, I think the mounting isn't very sturdy in the Mercedes

[@Harolddespui]

Even a Lada hasn't that much play in the steering column, let alone a 10 million dollar F1 car. Impossible.

[@SlendermanXXI]

@@Harolddespui You'll be surprised what teams will do to save weight and save money especially in the cost cap

[@jordyv4825]

it's load transfer he says in his merc shirt.... sure why is russel pulling on the wheel then? it's just loose? naaaa mate and it looks more like the chamber gets changed not the toe. if this was load transer you should have seen the nose dip as well and quite a bit too looking at those tires shift. but the nose doesn't dip. on top of that you do NOT WANT load transfer you do not want the nose to dip and the rear to lift. under any circumstance this looks hella fishy

[@MrHayze88]

the nose wont dive as they all have an anti dive front suspension first brought by redbull in 22

[@TreyMotes]

" it's just loose? naaaa mate" Explain why the other non-merc cars also have the same front wheel movement then as shown in this very video?

[@bangkokstallion]

@@TreyMotes Don't see their steering wheels moving though

[@TreyMotes]

@@bangkokstallion So? If the other cars don't have the steering wheel movements but have the same exact front wheel movements, then obviously this steering wheel movement isn't causing THAT front wheel movement. This isn't a difficult concept...

[@quadrantalerror1121]

Been like this since the start of the season whenever the mercs go into breaking zones, people are only starting to pick up on it now

[@F1Unchained]

seems like it

[@PhillipAlcock]

Well at hasn’t done them much good has it?

[@devzs5251]

​@@PhillipAlcockIt hasn't, because it's a nothing.

[@lorenmax2.013]

The good ending would be that we have a team cheating das into the grid. The bad ending would be a recreation of Senna's crash. Either way the FIA should take a look

[@springfoxy495]

I say it isn't Das, but I would recommend Mercedes to make sure the steering column isn't going to break. We don't need another Senna incident...

[@selloelias-l3m]

They look suspicious those tires man...but this can't be true.. .

[@dansegelov305]

It's just front end dive under braking. The toe angle doesn't change. The camber angle changes as the nose dives under braking. If it was DAS then they've set it up back to front! It makes sense to push the wheel when braking, with the g load pushing you forward, not pull! Plenty of drivers like a bit of float in the wheel. especially if the car is particularly stiff and rigid on a bumpy track.

[@DineshKumar-iu5pl]

Setting up the tyre that way through mechanical loading is fine, but doing the same using a Dual Axis System (DAS) as with the assistance of driver inputs might be a scandal again.

[@Bogm8]

DAS = Dual Axis Steering, but agreed otherwise.

[@DineshKumar-iu5pl]

@Bogm8 okay

[@SniperzITA]

I hope it's not true... And they just improved the car, and now gotta make it work on normal tracks.

[@maxximuss9361]

Is true 😮

[@SweetChillieBeat]

I knew I saw something there!

[@DavidVanSloten]

Fishy and weird is right! And it did look like the front axle moved more than the other two cars to me.

[@recommended1782]

i don't think its the same but there is something going on probably some sort of mechanic of the merc itself das is banned if they tried it it would been disqualified

[@Jaytalise]

I believe the steering wheel is moving vertically (y-axis). This isn’t moving on the Z-axis which is what DAS did. So potentially they’re moving it vertically now, but i don’t see the wheels moving.

[@EJ0107]

Nah this is insane 😂

[@F1Unchained]

It’s quite somethign

[@moiseulpasmoi]

And just like that, Mercedes lost a perfect 1-2. I now understand Ferrari fans

[@matheusmachadoracer9153]

If you watch the video, when the car goes into the corner the tires converge, the correct thing for the corner would be divergence, using convergence to make the corner only generates more understeer, it doesn't make sense for them to use it that way, it would be a disadvantage

[@sesvid]

I get the point. But it seems strange that Russel's steering wheel was moving as much on the longitudinal axis. Was it the same for Hamilton?

[@Christian_rose18]

I’m not going to lie. After seeing this video, I went back to check on the race, and I have the F1 pass, so I can see all the drivers’ cockpit views. I checked a couple of drivers’ views and Russell’s view, and there is a slight move on his that you do not see on the other drivers’ cars. Don’t know if anyone else has the app. Check it out. Hope it’s not true, but this is F1.

[@denwyngovender9168]

Was it only on Russels car, Lewis?

[@Christian_rose18]

@ I checked Lewis as well, and there was no slight movement like Russell’s POV.

[@onlyviralvibes8386]

But its this only on Georges car. No one has lewis onboard???

[@pestfck1926]

if its true lewis wont have this bcs he is leaving for SF

[@bangkokstallion]

Doesn't have the "upgrades"

[@Solovlieger]

The das mechanisme is probably applied to control a new parameter, as the fia has banned the toe angle adjustment. But using the movement to control the stiffness or ride height would be 'new' and not lead to dq.

[@Kso_-wo6ec]

i think its because of how you said under braking the wheels turn by themselves by the load that it also moves the steering wheel at the same time

[@Emadavid]

I always love DAS as an engineer. They should allow it

[@thurbine2411]

I think it is fine that they ban innovations like DAS after the season if they think it isnt what they want with the regs but it should still not be banned mid season if it actually isnt technically against the rules.

[@carlfrye1566]

​@@thurbine2411: RB's LEGAL BRAKE VALVE was banned(TD) mid - season this year, Merc was allowed to run DAS thru the whole season. Fair?

[@thurbine2411]

@ well I don’t think rb has admitted the brake valve. Also I myself can’t see how such a thing would have been legal even under the old text in the regs though I understand that it can be hidden. Don’t remember how they had to change the text of the regs regarding DAS so can’t really comment on it. But I think the wording about the brakes was clear that you just have the same brake pressure/force on both sides of the same axis so it shouldn’t have to be included that you can’t have a device that does that or whatever was added. I will see if I can find the places in the regs regarding das and compare them 2020 to 2021. Maybe that should have been banned directly but then I think it would have. Or red bull would have admitted their brake thing if it actually was legal before the change and maybe they didn’t even do it

[@carlfrye1566]

@thurbine2411 : The FIA issued a TD to remove the RB brake valve...it was as LEGAL as DAS was BEFORE that was TD'd out after the season. All of this curiousity about LEGAL parts yet no questions as to why Zak removed the flexible wing after Baku and the subsequent deficiencias of McLaren on long straight tracks? Or nothing about Ferrari's complaint that the FIA took a long time(I believe they said 4/6 weeks to give results of their McLaren flexible front wing video investigation? Red Bull had nothing to admit...the brake valve was LEGAL...proven by the fact The FIA issued a TD. No TD for Zak's rear wing....why did he remove it?

[@carlfrye1566]

@thurbine2411 : Why "admit" you have a legal part? A team would have to list 1,000's of parts wouldn't they?

[@AndrewTSq]

DAS not change the front axle, it changes toe in... but it could change something with the floor, etc.. to reduce or enhance downforce

[@StormyTuesday5108]

It's illegal to adjust the suspension while driving

[@AndrewTSq]

@@StormyTuesday5108 Yes, that is why I think its doing something else like changing something with the floor.

[@robbiet9708]

My personal observation is that the wheel is moving slightly up/down, more of an anti-dive function rather than a DAS system. Be interesting to see where this leads.

[@theelf152]

It’s more his body is lunging forward under braking makes you think he’s pulling back. The minor rotation of the wheels is the loading up under braking effecting the toe & camber angle

[@Ezzo_SDN]

the wheel but from the baku upgrade the merc made they changed their cockpit shape and the wheel seemed to be further back that’s why it looks like the wheel seemed to move much more than other cars…

[@s0012823]

This a great system when automated, put it in!

[@SOrme_C135]

That’s the question and could be. Some dropped the question (about the video/DAS) on the Merc F1 Linkedln page today, so maybe things will get a bit more spicy!

[@nali9345]

Great videos my friend! Bravo! 😊👍🏼 Always interesting! 👌🏼

[@F1Unchained]

Thank you my friend

[@MrDomo85]

It's visible that it's vertical movement not a forward backwards one. Wheels will look as if they are going onwards as the car rides so stiff and as the axle loads it will look like das from that camera angle.

[@michaelcristiano2537]

Is the steering wheel actually being pulled back or is it going back to its resting, neutral position. As in, with the heavy braking in that turn, any slack in a steering joint combined with weight of the driver pushing on the wheel with the high forward forces, compresses any slack in that steering column. When he comes off the brakes, that forward force stops and the driver and steering wheel go back to their regular position, what you’re seeing as pulling back? 🤷

[@forgingfire2850]

Ive seen a post about it. They don't have das look at the hand in relation to the rest of the car it's position forward and backwards doesn't change hes simply gripping the wheel differently

[@madtrade]

i'm wondering how the hell the stearing column is moving ? that sound pretty dangerous no ?

[@weedfreer]

Hmmm, they’re not adjusting the Teatray height are they. Very naughty if they are!

[@Chunkerdunkers12]

Quick little break from brick work today to watch this

[@QOTSAPT]

They were superfast mostly because las Vegas is smooth like a billiards table, they love to run the car absolutely floored. This steering thing has been back to mercedes all year. The temperature thing is interesting because spa is cold and they were good at spa if you ignore that the car was clearly illegal and Russell lost that win.

[@nicolasgarcia248]

I noticed too (during last GP)... Weird.

[@thatpersonthatguy]

Well, to be frank, Mercedes car had the characteristics of excelling in colder weather since we were greeted by these new regulations. I believe that unfortunately this is a general characteristic of the car that isn’t likely to change. Meaning Mercedes will likely struggle with tires next year the same way they have this year. However they’re likely to be quite decent in cooler and wet conditions. This is purely a car characteristic problem that isn’t likely to be solved considering it has been around since the start. Yes this comment isn’t directly related to the video but it’s why Mercedes were so dominant. They relative to everyone else have a car very suited to cold conditions. And that is exactly the conditions we saw in Vegas. As for the “das.” I have to say I think it was genius and I thought even as a redbull fan that is should’ve been allowed. It’s a sport that had claimed to be the pinnacle of innovation, and yet they ban almost all innovation from the teams. It’s really not in the spirit of the sport.

[@mschrappe]

Not even my sim wheel does this wobling, this is terrible. Perhaps the drivers could be transfering weight or making too much force to the wheel, I do this, althought it's not good as the driver may experience excess fadigue and lose some fine tuning sensibility.

[@simon9548]

Maybe it's not the front wheels, but George is definitely adjusting something with moving the steering wheel.

[@EmmanuelHaro549]

Something like the Aero/canard/ front wing

[@coopersieb1391]

Thank you F1 Jesus

[@alecrl1]

I believe the Mercedes is quick at most tracks until it rubbers in so fp1 and fp2 but buy fp3 or qualifying they seem to get left behind for me this would be down to the chassis flexing to much or in a way that Mercedes cannot control. So a low grip track would suit the Mercedes. There is also the Pirelli factor to take into account reports of tyres behaving so different from set to set.

[@LawVS]

I've seen various people reckon it's basically that the Mercedes has a looser steering column than usual.

[@F1Unchained]

Yeah I have seen people say this as well

[@Harolddespui]

Seriously? If you have that much play in the steering column you should visit a garage asap.

[@Geodriver22]

If DAS was banned in 2020 isn’t illegal too use it now also and can’t they get disqualified from the race?

[@therealf.b.i9468]

Mercedes always have their steering wheel quick release quite loose idk why but maybe to help the marshalls get the steering wheel out quickly maybe

[@cieloame2705]

Agreed conclusion . No fault , at this time .

[@BionicBurke]

Last time a steering wheel moved like this without DAS.... we lost Senna....

[@Sammy_K17]

Its not DAS, its the front suspension twisting under braking load. the steering wheel moves a but there is illegal going on. It could also be that george has a habit of pulling the steering wheel down under heavy braking.

[@Dr_Dirk_Diggler]

lol the steering wheel does not move like that nor is it allowed. Also you can see the wheel angle change with both wheel moving in opposite angle.. Ruble strips do not do this lol

[@Chyeahokay]

They wouldn’t have the steering wheel move for no reason… why have more failure points? Lol maybe they wanted Lewis to win won before he leaves merc

[@F1Unchained]

LOL maybe

[@Matt-yq4zr]

If you look at the right tyre from 01:04 onwards the guard moves quite a lot like the tyre is toe in and out. I think this is a bias opinion as being a Mercedes fan you are bound to say that there is no DAS.

[@F1Unchained]

I’m not a Mercedes fan

[@Matt-yq4zr]

@ sorry I assumed you were as you had their t shirt on

[@BadWallaby]

If they were Sulayem would have already had his hand out and pockets open for a fine for the team 😂

[@mssm9495]

They must have done something dodgy in order to improve so much so quickly.

[@billB101]

It was cold, the Mercs prefer the cold.

[@MattWillPrior]

There's a natural flex in the steering rack. Some drivers prefer it softer or stiffer. Also the heavy breaking is probs magnifying the softness of the Merc rack.

[@sgru9558]

the tyres move at same time, another natural flex? lmao

[@carolakieboom9978]

Flex in the steering rack? U are joking right? Which other driver prefer their rack to flex?

[@SOrme_C135]

I agree with you. I tend to think its car loading being exaggerated by numerous lighting artifacts that come with the LV GP. The movement of the steering wheel is also not as significant as what we saw in 2020. That being said if Merc where to do it then I would hope that they would change the activation method as the DAS system originally got caught this way back in 2020. Christian Horner has really been on a tear about throwing out this type of stuff recently (although now that Max secured the 4th WDC maybe he won't care). Great channel and look forward to your Qartar GP preview (with car updates). Cheers!

[@F1Unchained]

❤️❤️

[@ancobliekendaal589]

But if it’s not on Hamiltons car than it’s something they’re testing for 2025.

[@paololosacco8434]

I think that f1cheats should be considered and treat as fraud and a criminal charge. Team managers should be held accountable and participating drivers arrested!

[@Real28]

I thought the DAS only worked in 1 direction? It either added or removed toe in, to scrub the wheels on an outlap or pace car to get them into temp at the perfect time At any rate, this is NOT DAS. This is not unusual.

[@Andrea-vl6mf]

George said that on Friday they unlocked something...the steering wheel apparently

[@Marcel-ct9wq]

So the steering wheel moves back and forth without reason?

[@Rawkus919]

Would it be easier to electronically control DAS? Obviously to easy to spot wheel moving.

[@JimmyTurboMods]

It seems impossible to me that the steering wheel would flex that much. I think it is indeed a form of DAS but with a subtle enough effect that the team can argue it's just unintended flex in the components.

[@ThatGuyGloomy]

I think thats just g-forces while braking. Car compresses slight

[@nazaronishchuk4815]

Guys, on February 29, I wrote to Mercedes with a message suggesting combining the "das" idea with anti-dive suspension, changing the stiffness when needed. Imagine they really did that. 💀

[@Apsu94]

Steering column is bending under braking,hamilton had this in brazil 2021

[@AlonsoRules]

Whoever came up with DAS back in the day was a genius. I wonder where that person is nowadays.

[@SennaCH96]

I yold you very soon that something was going with that wheel hahaha. Lets see if the FIA does some checks cause they should, its probably nothing but it could still be. Do you have information on the ferrari floor, especially how it was for the high speed cornering (I just want to see Ferrari become constructors champions)

[@onaweekend5138]

GR never complains about tire temps...

[@TheJGJR9]

so id assume before it was manual and now its possibly automatic?

[@nazaronishchuk4815]

Maybe now it changes the rigidity of front suspension

[@Rossi543]

your Merc Bias looking at your shirt , they are CHEATERS PERIOD ...