Is The Juicy Salif A Good Design?

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@_kieranlewis_
@_kieranlewis_ 4 жыл бұрын
"Joy is a function" What a great quote, another great vid keep it up
@Design.Theory
@Design.Theory 4 жыл бұрын
That's why they pay him the big bucks!
@nehok
@nehok 3 жыл бұрын
The Salif is a Highly functional object; you just have to remember that it's function isn't a juicer it's a wedding present!
@cdronk
@cdronk Жыл бұрын
I recently started drinking warm water with lemon juice in the morning. The juicer that I currently have doesn't work very well, so I thought to buy a new one. Suddenly this juicer sprang to mind. I've wanted this juicer since it came out more than 30 years ago. I've always been prone to falling in love with certain objects, and this is right up there. I instantly became very excited about the prospect of owning this juicer and bought it immediately. So now I'll have two juicers that don't work very well, but only one will bring me immense joy.
@johndaltrocanto
@johndaltrocanto 3 жыл бұрын
I love the thing, to me it also looks very organic, like it could suddenly start walking around the house like an alien pet
@Design.Theory
@Design.Theory 3 жыл бұрын
I get a similar impression of the object, as well :)
@ashdoesthings
@ashdoesthings 3 жыл бұрын
I just picked one up in my local thrift store this morning for 3 euros. I love it.
@elo5193
@elo5193 6 ай бұрын
Omg, jealous! How has it been serving you?
@TheMasterpitzy
@TheMasterpitzy 4 жыл бұрын
Great vid! One of the my fav designs from one of my fav designers. I really agree with what Philippe Starck says about joy being enough function. I've seen too many people get angry at this juicer. The funny thing is, the same people never get angry at the fact there are millions of chair designs. If function was so important, we wouldnt need that many chairs.
@Design.Theory
@Design.Theory 4 жыл бұрын
I agree! I think what's interesting about it is that it skirts the fine line between art and design.
@matthawksworth
@matthawksworth 2 жыл бұрын
The Juicy Salif represents Design; the love of design; design freedom; it's inspiration to create whatever you want. I have one, never used it, thats what it is to me.
@georgialister2172
@georgialister2172 3 жыл бұрын
This video was amazing! Never thought of critiquing design or analysing it in the way you just have. Learnt more in ten minutes then a few years of design 👀
@Design.Theory
@Design.Theory 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for checking out the vid, Georgia. Glad you found it helpful :)
@parkervarin
@parkervarin 2 жыл бұрын
Can you start doing videos where you do a design analysis of something not man-made? You could do a design analysis of a flower, cliff, or anteater or something. It was designed, just by nature's algorithms instead of the ones in our heads and computers.
@RaafieNL
@RaafieNL 3 жыл бұрын
Brings a smile on my face every time I look at it.
@txm100
@txm100 4 жыл бұрын
Please mention when the product first was introduced earlier and more precisely when. Also I would have liked some info or assumptions how it is actually produced. Great video though!
@Design.Theory
@Design.Theory 4 жыл бұрын
Noted! It's cast aluminum, which is then polished. It's built from a 3-part mold.
@designbykaroline
@designbykaroline 4 жыл бұрын
Great video though you forgot one of the most important functions: learning how to sketch-render metal for first-year design students ;)
@Design.Theory
@Design.Theory 4 жыл бұрын
I wish more students used it for this function! It would make my job easier (I teach sophomores design sketching at CCA).
@somicotube
@somicotube 9 ай бұрын
I was lucky enough to attend at a seminary during my years studying design in Milan, Alessi explained us all the story behind this product including all the iterations and complex mold. First protorypes had a spiral instead of the vertical lines for the squeezer. They decided to risk by making this product which they had absolutely no idea if it was going to sell or not… at least this is what I recall because it was back in 2000 😅
@shmookins
@shmookins 4 жыл бұрын
I love it! I love everything about it. I love style over substance because for one reason it shows there is no necessity which means we are not struggling. It's like having a tan or a green lawn. Completely pointless but it shows your life is okay; you can waste your time on literally pointless things (growing and cutting useless grass or laying in the sun for hours). A juicer that doesn't juice properly? Yeah, because I don't 'need' to juice. If somebody owns that juicer, they are doing okay in life and that is a good thing. :)
@Design.Theory
@Design.Theory 4 жыл бұрын
Yup. A total luxury item.
@elizabethwuehrmann3519
@elizabethwuehrmann3519 2 жыл бұрын
To me this mentality only makes sense if you have been very poor.
@elo5193
@elo5193 6 ай бұрын
I love this explanation and have to agree 💯.
@LinusBoman
@LinusBoman 4 жыл бұрын
Nicely done, John - really enjoying these analysis videos! Please keep it up - while in the kitchen, a potential suggestion for a future video - I'd love to see a compare and contrast between two different approaches to the same function. The Francis Francis X1 espresso machine vs the Rancilio Silvia espresso machine would be a great case study for example. I'm sure the same would go for other kitchen gadgets or domestic items. Thank you again for making great, accessible design content! ;)
@Design.Theory
@Design.Theory 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks, will do! I think a comparison video might be a good idea.
@GrayFur
@GrayFur 3 жыл бұрын
I think the words that would better describe why we want this object are mere exposure and self identification. I'm glad to have learned about mere exposure effect from your video on iconic designs. We tend to fall in love with objects we encounter often. There's no other object that's discussed more often in ID community than this juicer, so it certainly plays a huge role. For me buying this juicer would probably be less about aesthetics and more about identifying myself as a person with good taste who appreciates the icons of industrial design and is part of ID community. Thank you for the video!
@Design.Theory
@Design.Theory 3 жыл бұрын
Great observation, thank you for your input. I think that status or simply being "part of the club" is most definitely an aspect of this design.
@itsnothisfaulthecantread
@itsnothisfaulthecantread 4 жыл бұрын
It's a near exact copy of the interstellar spaceship that brought the light of Zartha to Earth in MIB 2. They show it in the movie a couple times. Interesting!
@Design.Theory
@Design.Theory 4 жыл бұрын
I never knew this until I posted this video. Kind of funny :)
@asmodijan
@asmodijan 3 жыл бұрын
@@Design.Theory Its actually the other way around, the spaceship is a copy of the juicy salif and a nod to exactly the retrofuturistic and "alien" quality of the design. MIB 2 is from 2002, so it's safe to say Starck didn't copy the design off of the movie ;)
@javierhualde739
@javierhualde739 Жыл бұрын
Personally, owning such an item would not bring me any joy. I prefer the enjoyment from using a device that is simple and easy to use, gets the job done and looks nice. I see beauty in good tools that are made to do the task easy, intuitive and enjoyable. I’m a big fan of the Braun Citromatic MPZ 2. Intuitive and effortless use, easy to clean, and robustly built that will last years. And it looks nice (at least to me).
@mcbrite
@mcbrite Жыл бұрын
4:40 Wow, you just put into words, something that was just a feeling to me before that! Now I understand why the spikey arms are the weird part to me!
@my_dear_friend_
@my_dear_friend_ Жыл бұрын
Starck's design will remain out in the open in a trophy kitchen for people to look at and talk about, and the functional $3 plastic lemon squeezer that actually separates the seeds and pulp from the juice can be found in the kitchen drawer with other tools. This object represents form and not much function. It's an attractive sculpture that might be used for squeezing lemons if you have absolutely no access to one that works. Acknowledging this is not missing the point, it is pointing out that all products are designed for specific target groups and some people simply prioritize status over utility. If Alessi could not sell it, they would not make it.
@heyitsjitu1443
@heyitsjitu1443 4 жыл бұрын
Wow I never thought about this. Thanks
@Design.Theory
@Design.Theory 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching :)
@mehulagarwal9455
@mehulagarwal9455 4 жыл бұрын
Erotic is one of the words that came to my mind. The long slender legs and many other elements...
@gtv6chuck
@gtv6chuck 4 жыл бұрын
Mine sits on my kitchen window ledge, along with a Karim Rashid corkscrew that I can't figure out how to use and an Alessi Richard Sapped cheese grater. The grater works well but I hardly ever grate cheese, so it is used as much as the Salif.
@Design.Theory
@Design.Theory 4 жыл бұрын
Interesting insights, for sure. Here's a related question I have (there isn't really a right or wrong answer - just a a thought)...considering the fact that for 99.9% of their lives, our products lay dormant, should we focus more on how they are stored or displayed, rather than purely how they function?
@martyboi
@martyboi 3 жыл бұрын
@@Design.Theory I think sir it brings novelty if the thing is not stored properly in a shelf, that it's placement is in the area where it's supposed to be used, because I think you are witnessing art everyday, because if you put in a shelf you realize that these products are like prize possession that needs to be taken care of, having it placed in outside the shelf reminds you of your CHOICE to buy the product which is also sometimes a reflection of someone's personality....
@sweetfruit7769
@sweetfruit7769 4 жыл бұрын
*MEN IN BLACK 2* had a villain spaceship that had this exact design in the first scene (jokingly)
@Design.Theory
@Design.Theory 4 жыл бұрын
Wow. That is a spot-on reference. Thanks for bringing that up!
@sweetfruit7769
@sweetfruit7769 4 жыл бұрын
@@Design.Theory Found it: kzbin.info/www/bejne/jKa0hmpsh6ukha8 This is the homage they used for the film. Perfect „alien spaceship“
@Design.Theory
@Design.Theory 4 жыл бұрын
@@sweetfruit7769 It's so perfect. Is there any confirmation anywhere that they did in fact reference the juicy salif? It definitely looks like it was a direct reference.
@sweetfruit7769
@sweetfruit7769 4 жыл бұрын
@@Design.Theory 🤷‍♂️
@batuustunkal2195
@batuustunkal2195 4 жыл бұрын
hey i love ur vids. In this year im going to study industrial design in germany so do you have any recommendations for a first year industrial design student. you can perhaps make a video about it or answer down below. thanks
@Design.Theory
@Design.Theory 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Batu, I do have one video that's about thiings that industrial design graduates need to know. It still is just as relevant as you enter your schooling. Check it out here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/aqeyhGuhlp6Fabc
@batuustunkal2195
@batuustunkal2195 4 жыл бұрын
@@Design.Theory thank you 😊👋👋
@Dovahkiin53
@Dovahkiin53 5 ай бұрын
Looks great I want 14 of them
@Happy_Shopper
@Happy_Shopper 2 жыл бұрын
Damn that juicer got me feelin some type of way
@justink5585
@justink5585 4 жыл бұрын
Great video! I'm curious what you think about the Philippe Starck ''Smoki Christiani'' Corkscrew.
@Design.Theory
@Design.Theory 4 жыл бұрын
I just checked it out. It's fine, I suppose. Not as recognizable or unique as the juicy salif...although to be fair, not much is.
@right2armbears685
@right2armbears685 3 жыл бұрын
Great explanation. I enjoyed the video!
@Design.Theory
@Design.Theory 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for checking it out :)
@martimafonso9300
@martimafonso9300 3 жыл бұрын
do you know how this product is manufactured? I'm doing a research on it for my university
@Design.Theory
@Design.Theory 3 жыл бұрын
i believe it's die-cast. 3-part mold.
@Zarkonem
@Zarkonem 2 жыл бұрын
I literally just clicked on this video just to find out what the heck this thing even is. Stayed for the discussion around it.
@KarimElHayawan
@KarimElHayawan 3 жыл бұрын
Calling the Juicy Salif a meme isn't quite right, I feel. I think it's closer to a troll.
@adarshganesh
@adarshganesh 4 жыл бұрын
Do you guys think the price point of the product played a role in it’s popularity or acceptance?
@Design.Theory
@Design.Theory 4 жыл бұрын
Probably. I'm not exactly sure how, though. I'm also not sure how much it cost when it was first launched.
@k2raf
@k2raf 3 жыл бұрын
Can you please do Flos Arco lamp ? :)
@Design.Theory
@Design.Theory 3 жыл бұрын
I'll see what I can do :)
@k2raf
@k2raf Жыл бұрын
@@Design.Theory thank you ;-)
@AdityaDev3
@AdityaDev3 4 жыл бұрын
Well explained
@Design.Theory
@Design.Theory 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for checking it out, Aditya :)
@ReoAard
@ReoAard 2 жыл бұрын
When life gives you seedless lemons
@PATRK55
@PATRK55 3 жыл бұрын
Looks a lot like the little spaceship in Men in Black 1
@Design.Theory
@Design.Theory 3 жыл бұрын
I thought so too lol
@alpacamale2909
@alpacamale2909 4 жыл бұрын
it seems easier to wash than others tho
@philismenko
@philismenko 2 жыл бұрын
I like the design because I don't know about you, but I don't juice stuff often, and if I were I don't really need it to be done on a large scale, so why not get something that looks good instead of sitting in a drawer unused
@philismenko
@philismenko 2 жыл бұрын
I am also just a sucker for retrofuturistic stuff so
@Ghadente
@Ghadente 8 ай бұрын
CUE brought me here
@Account-kv3jc
@Account-kv3jc 2 жыл бұрын
Juicy salif... Juicy falis.. Juicy phallus.
@jake-rg3fd
@jake-rg3fd 4 ай бұрын
I blame this attitude for most of society's ills. Who cares if it functions, so long as it's pretty?
@salhyy9962
@salhyy9962 4 жыл бұрын
This is the first time i heard of this thing, why would anyone buy this aside frome being a prop for a despicable me movie ? No worries , i'll forget about this soon enough
@Design.Theory
@Design.Theory 4 жыл бұрын
That's pretty much the only reason why they'd buy it. It's kind of amazing that it's still a best selling product and a very famous design in spite of the fact that functions only marginally well.
@VGInterviews
@VGInterviews 2 жыл бұрын
This is my single most hated design object in the world Ever since I was studying industrial design in college I always hated how for some reason Starck and this specific item were the 1st choice pretty much everyone came up when asked to reference a relevant design object/industrial designer, this isn't a product, a product has a purpose, a process in which it fulfills that purpose to the best of its (and the designer's) ability, which in this scenario it was totally sidelined, and no, "creating conversation" is not the purpose of a product (unless you are making a phone) if your goal is just to create an emotional response then what you made is an art piece, not an industrial design product I think that mindset is a very common issue among new designers, everyone wants to create the next attachment product that people will love and will revolutionize their lives, but only care about doing it through form totally ignoring function, ergonomics, accessibility and in some cases, basic common sense. I seriously think idolizing items like this is a detriment to design as a whole, imagine if this happened in any other discipline like a civil engineer made a highway layout that looked cool when seen from a helicopter but had the worst traffic flow and a bunch of accidents due to badly planned lane merges, or an architect that made a house with paperthin structure, terrible air flow and bad materials for the chosen location's weather, but it projected a cool shadow at sunrise....would experts in those fields would really treat those projects and the peak of their respective areas? Seriously, screw this thing
@RepublicanAtheist
@RepublicanAtheist 2 жыл бұрын
I think we’ve allowed function over form to dictate design in too many elements of our lives already. Minimalist, industrial design has been all the rage for quite some time. I miss the ornate for ornate sake. I think that’s why it’s so relevant. When I look at most kitchen appliances like espresso makers, toasters, can openers they are all quite utilitarian and boring compared to their vintage counterparts. Not everything has to be engineered to utilize the least plastic and metal per unit, sometimes it’s nice to design something for the sake of designing something pretty and usable. You are looking at this product more than you are using it, so it’s function as “being pretty” is more relevant than “collecting juice” which serves as a secondary function when you think about how this item will be displayed and how often the person actually juices fruit.
@VGInterviews
@VGInterviews 2 жыл бұрын
@@RepublicanAtheist but Vintage appliances never ignored function, there are so many items that have stood the test of time and that's why grandma still uses her 1960's coffee grinder rather than a new one because it was made with longevity in mind (that's why we have all those "restoring a 1950's blender" videos where they just had to remove some rust and clean it and the item works just fine) , compared to today's where you have the capsule coffee makers where they take up a bunch of unneeded space, and are not intuitive on top of producing a ton of waste but "hey look the machine is donut shaped"
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@Design.Theory 3 жыл бұрын
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