Is the KV Broadside Shotgun Overpowered? | Gun Guide Ep. 42

Welcome to Modern Warfare II Gun Guides! This is the series where I dive deep into the stats and best attachments for every gun in the game. In today's episode, we're breaking down the KV Broadside in great detail! What do you think of this weapon in MWII?
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0:00 Intro
0:19 Shotgun Range Comparison
1:06 Rate of Fire & Time to Kill
1:39 ADS & Sprintout Time
1:30 Hipfire Comparison
1:44 ADS Pellet Spread Comparison
2:27 Aim Down Sight, Sprintout, & Reload Times
2:59 Mobility
3:34 Bolt Attachments
4:12 Barrel Ranges
4:40 Pellet Spread/Range Modifying Muzzles
5:30 Sprintout Attachments
6:18 Dragon's Breath
7:38 Slug
8:42 Explosive Slug
9:46 Overpowered Build (Dragon's Breath)
10:51 All Around Build
12:29 Slug Build
13:03 Wrapping Up

[@dillonc7955]

The Broadside reaches it's fullest potential when equipped with the underbarrel masterkey, plus another secondary overkill shotgun.

[@letsgotothemax]

you could make an argument that the broadside with masterkey is a better double barrel shotgun than the lockwood 300

[@goldenwolf_gamingYT]

I use the grenade launcher with dragons breath lol it works much bettr

[@Mr1991bjk]

Nahh put akimbo snakeshots to become Shotgun Man 😁

[@g.swizzle]

When overkill lives up to its name

[@BetaBreaking]

​@@letsgotothemax for real, what made the 725 so potent was its range in tandem with the short reload. You sacrificed ammo for well placed shots at range. Obviously the good players could still abuse the thing after the nerf but even then in MW22, it's just so damn useless in most cases when compared to the Bryson and now the Broadside. They've got to buff the 725, give it a shorter reload speed if they don't want to add range

[@amineaiffa]

You know it's overpowered when it shows up in 99% of the final kill cam replays.

[@turbo558]

Ace I want you to know how much I appreciate not blabbering on when doing videos. You get right to the point & speak fast but clear. So many other creators just go on and on and usually just recycle the same content worded differently. AND you present straight facts not opinionated “meta” builds or focusing on one stat (like chest shots only) for ttk when we all know damn well thts not realistic. from the bottom of my heart thank you.

[@dirt007]

It's not a cod Chanel but real life lore turns 5 mins into 30

[@viddykhaos2896]

With the right attachments, and the Dragon's Breath shells, this shotgun is truly an animal. I saw someone use it, and was the unfortunate victim of it too many times in one match. I simply had to try it myself.

[@razzaashand3962]

I took it from someone in resurgence and went on to win the game with it, it shredded through 3 players in close proximity it's unreal

[@iceberg4736]

Tried it, used it in DMZ to level up, got the 🔥 shells, and then made my Caesar expendables class along with a comp slug build. It's a beaut.

[@Kuriketto]

People saying it's not broken and that they can counter Broadside users with Brysons or the Lockwood haven't cleared out a room of 4 enemies in a little over a second with this thing. It's absolutely broken with Dragon's Breath.

[@brizzle711]

Dragons breath is kinda pointless but mad funny to see enemies get yeeted from it tho

[@xlAnimosty]

@@Kuriketto no it’s overpowered with a 25 round mag

[@odststalker5117]

the short answer is "yes". The long answer is a series of expletives followed by a broken keyboard

[@Casey0706]

People think any shotgun is overpowered

[@bruschetta7711]

@@Casey0706 tbh if they didn't make the expedite so bad this shotgun wouldn't have had such an impact And at least they are usable in mp unlike warzone

[@weirdassbird]

​@@Casey0706 maybe because it is

[@sherKhan-qq7cy]

@@Jaxx0099 yh the 800 is alot better

[@odststalker5117]

@@Casey0706 this one actually is though lol. It's absolutely unbeatable in warzone right now, especially. It can 2-3 tap you and you can't even see while being shot because of all the fire sparks

[@DWalter.27]

You didn't mention it being the only shotgun that can run the noob tube! Underrated attachment, as you can quickly boop someone at long range if needed. And it's freaking hilarious. It can also run an underbarrel shotgun, if you find yourself needing a shotgun for your shotgun.

[@HellJustFroze]

_Yo bro, I heard you like shotguns..._

[@u12bdragon]

For kill range, it would have been cool if you would have added the Basilisk with snake shot

[@HybRidChrome]

Everyone running around with this gun and the dragon's breath rounds is absolute chaos

[@protoman2260]

I love it

[@nickstersss]

@@protoman2260 shipment TDM is just basically fireworks like it was 4th of July

[@BetaBreaking]

​@@nickstersss I feel bad for those last gen players, their game must be a slideshow on Shipment 😂

[@kenmorris8219]

​@@BetaBreaking Nope, works fine. But back to back airstrikes and mortar strikes are the worst.

[@dillonc7955]

​@@kenmorris8219 Hence why I feel the streaks should be disabled in Shipment 24/7.

[@codysuchomski6498]

Your videos are so well made. Really going above and beyond with the information and I'm grateful for it.

[@alexmaurice4274]

I feel the expedite needs buffed and this needs maybe a recoil nerf something that doesn’t hurt it much but a tiny tiny bit

[@supersai4198]

I'm one of those weirdos, I have been using the Expedite 12 since the beginning. Only play solo, on TDM, got about 7k kills...

[@Unknown201s]

If you use it correctly the expedite is a great shotgun with right attachment especially the bryson choke and tune it to tighter pellet spread and make sure to always ads for kills and avoid hip firing except at point blank range and also the iron sights on expedite can be hard while shooting which will make accurate shots a lot harder. For best attachment to get more kills is : 1-Bryson choke : tune for tighter spread. 2-Any red dot sight. 3-VX pineapple grip. 4-The guard that helps ads speed. 5-Bolt that boost fire rate.

[@capitcha]

@@Unknown201s this goes for pretty much every shotgun+ the laser that adds hip fire accuracy. I would remove the red dot sight because you’re going for a hip fire build at this point

[@xxxxxxxmatthew]

I hate the Expedite so much.

[@alexmaurice4274]

@@supersai4198 I liked it in the beta but then I feel it was needed I haven’t liked it much

[@mauer-laufer4638]

Even if Dragon's Breath gets nerfed I'll keep using it because shooting flames out at high fire rate is just too badass to let go of.

[@Nazylexx]

For me Dragon's Breath is great because enemy you shoot at can't see shit. It's just so bright good luck seeing enemy , especially when game's visibility is so focused on "diamonds" to notice enemies

[@_JaySho]

Facts!

[@blastmole299]

@@Nazylexx That's the only reason I really hate KV. Couple that with flashes it makes my eyes hurt sometimes I'd rather play warzone than multiplayer

[@ChaoticKatana]

Excited to see your shotgun guides as these weapons are quite different than most others. I have a request. You gave the shotgun reload values and the Broadside looks pretty good. I would like to see the 'refire time' compared as well. Since we can fire during tube shotgun reloads and many such shotguns have a special, load on empty animation to work through. There also appears to be an extra delay for breaking your reload.

[@bobfranklin2572]

Ace sneaking in a preview to the shotgun episodes 😁

[@LastGoatKnight]

Finally I unlocked it before you did a video on it, yeeey😁 I think this shotgun is a beast, especially as a console player. The accidental double tap saved me in a LOT of situations

[@Prefix1998]

Broadside just needs its rate of fire tweaked down a bit and the dragon's breath not doubling as a flash grenade.

[@louistorres0054]

You said blast shield instead of EOD and I love it lol. Talk about a throwback!

[@1st_Amendment_Is_My_Right]

I love my range build on this gun. Using the extended barrel with a slug and scope. I’ve stretched the one head shot potential all the way out from one side of shipment to the other. It’s basically a mid range marksman rifle.

[@MisterCaution]

If you’re going to do that, why not simply use the easier to use “shotguns” in the marksman class? SPR is a noob’s dream.

[@ButtSauce666]

​@@MisterCaution orrrrrr, run a slug thrower instead

[@emp1985]

This damn thing turned the game into MW:2 Shotgun Warfare.

[@matthewpettus4475]

The gameplay featured in most of Ace’s videos are from lobbies I could only dream of playing in… some of these clips have guys tack sprinting straight to where 1/2/3 people just died & completely oblivious lmao

[@kreuger8397]

My personal favorite shotgun. The slugs are sneaky good on this!

[@Comeback180]

The KV's fire rate makes it feel like it's melting me faster even though it has the shortest damage ranges of all the shotguns.

[@basherboy2977]

"Blastshield" hahaha. Good throwback

[@tomwilson4353]

Me rushing spending tokens and rushing to level up the KV since Ace's video came out so I don't feel left out using the OP shotgun.

[@alau5643]

Nice vid

[@craigtrapp7313]

This gun is a Beast! I hit a 31 meter long shot yesterday with pellets. I have mine tuned for hip fire but it also has range and fire rate is sick I liked the Bryson 800 till this came out.

[@jacobsfire7735]

Your the man Ace 🤙

[@smokeskull]

I got my first nuke with the KV yesterday on shipment. Was not even trying but it was a gify and pretty exciting

[@IceDPS]

Hey Ace just wanted to pass some constructive criticism, I think it's a great idea to have the 3 pellet 1 shot bar and the all pellet 1 shot bar, how ever those little dots are really hars to see maybe a different color dot might work better to differentiate the two

[@TheXclusiveAce]

Thanks for the feedback. I'll have to make adjustments since it looks great before uploading to YT but the compression YT uses makes it far less visible.

[@HyperDarkmoon]

@@TheXclusiveAce Yeah I was gonna say the little dots are pretty hard to make out. Maybe slashes instead? ///// Thx for the vids, I don't even own mw2 but I watch every one

[@DWalter.27]

Yeah I couldn't see any dots, so not sure what he was talking about. I saw the bar in the red and assumed he just meant the left side of the bar

[@dajokaman759]

The suppressors offer such a massive fucking ADS penalty while providing so little for more consistent 1 shots while the chokes have negligible ADS penalty with the biggest impact for 1 shot effectiveness. That attachment balance logic belongs in a circus at this point.

[@larslinebarger6712]

Holy shit I never noticed you use shipment in the background of the range chart to give us a better idea!!

[@Rumblepak_5]

I love the 10 million blueprint, got it to platinum pretty quick.

[@mattminjarez]

I always expect an overpowered DLC shotgun in every COD now

[@lllXanderlll]

I definitely got to see the slug variance while I was using it to get long shot kills with the shotguns. It wasn't as if it was always something I was having to fight but I definitely noticed it when I'd have my reticle on someone's head and I wouldn't hit at all, and usually they'd kill me so I'd watch the kill cam. And in the kill cam you can see the slug round flying past their head and usually off to the right side. Again not unusable by any means but it's definitely something to keep in mind when you're using em

[@z-uwu4687]

If you wanna use slugs Bryson 890 I’d say is the best for that you’ll get way more consistency out of it bc the pellet spread will affect the slug accuracy

[@z-uwu4687]

Make sure to use the Bryson choke and you’ll be hitting your shots very consistently and a stock for aiming stability and it’s pretty much a higher movement sniper/marksman

[@arturoperez3826]

I haven’t seen the video but I know the answer is YES. shipment is annoying now because of it!

[@TheAndroidNextDoor]

This gun is to MWII was the Auto is to CSGO. I don't like using it but I have a class with it equipped purely to swap to it the moment someone on the enemy team kills me with it.

[@evanziolkowski1011]

I think the broadside is going to remove the demand for shipment you were talking about in a previous video. Shipment was decent before the broadside and now absolutely unplayable.

[@xxxxxxxmatthew]

Just unlocked the gold camo. Very strong gun. Fire rounds very hot. Bang bang.

[@beagle626]

This thing on shipment is like the WAW mp40 combined with pre patch 1887s

[@callejamiguel94]

for the op build i run the recoil control with velocity this allows you with great movement speed and good ads and sprint to fire. with shotguns you want to run and shot and run again. a large barrel means you have to stay and fight which is limited option. run and gun is the best option for shotguns

[@jaspervandepitte5310]

I'd replace the 12 shell mag with the Bryson choke on the OP build, it also massively helps when hipfiring.

[@enesbilgili8647]

Hey Ice great video i have one question, what is blast shield?

[@52887tj]

There is a build out there with the choke and different grips and stock that makes your hip fire ring accuracy the same whether you're sprinting or normal.

[@LordKevman]

the amount of times i've died to this gun ingame tells me that the answer is an astounding yes

[@MarkOfAHero]

Broadside needs a buff honestly

[@ridi7154]

💀

[@thebiggeststarwarsfan6635]

Even after the nerf, shipment with full teams using this gun with dragons breath rounds is looking like Tranzit from BO2 💀💀

[@JustAFan444]

I'm getting called out for using your dragons breath build every game lol. It's soo good and even has decent range if ads and you have the opportunity to get a few shots off. On Shipment, it's a multi-kill machine!

[@darkthor73]

That nerf to the dragon's breath came today. Basically at the same time you posted the video

[@quickhandcam8596]

Something that I have noticed when building shotguns is that the hipfire is somewhat relative to ADS spread. So the tighter the hipfire, the tighter the ADS will be... to a degree. Building for hipfire accuracy has netted me kills super far out while ADS.

[@Ayso10]

Just ended a whole quad squad in about a second. Is just too OP

[@hero0fcanton190]

I'm guessing blast shield is the bomb squad perk.

[@enesbilgili8647]

I also wonder that what is blast shield?

[@vladflorea7048]

Probably to avoid youtube demonetization

[@hero0fcanton190]

@Vlad Florea probably not, he says bomb sqaud 3 times in another video after this one, but that video could have been made before this, but published later.

[@gratedradish6699]

Tip to the newer crowd: Blast shield was the original modern warfare 2's bomb squad, so if anyone ever says blast shield they're just getting their wires crossed.

[@enesbilgili8647]

@@gratedradish6699 so how to get blast shield and use? Just using bomb squad?

[@oknumbnuts1]

I'm so shocked that you didn't include a laser on this. First for a weapon in this game for you

[@TheGreatChrisB]

It's funny that a choke improves slug accuracy, when in real life you have to remove your choke if you shoot slugs. Otherwise you'll ruin everything.

[@nickwhite2569]

I always feel like such a doofus doing this combo to maximize accuracy. The dev team really didn't think that one through.

[@GigaRatTTV]

It's beautiful

[@MH-jg6vk]

Please can we get a Pistol guide? "Swapping to pistol is always faster than reloading"

[@Nathan-Roman]

I can link the Harvard study saying the P890 is the best pistol

[@kidthekiddo8996]

lol not anymore, fast hands don’t even work on pistols. ace covered this in his fast hands guide, might be worth a watch

[@frequentfinesse8904]

@@Nathan-Roman x12*

[@JF-vz1ju]

​​​@@Nathan-RomanYeah the P890 is definitely the best pistol. Consistent 2-3 tap with low recoil to make follow up shots easier, higher mag size then the Deagle and Basilisk, higher damage than the Glocks. My only problem with it is that there's no real reason to add the 1911 in while the P890 exists. :(

[@Nathan-Roman]

@J F the only way a pistol could be better is if it did P890 damage with a faster fire rate/magazine size or it did more damage than the deagle/revolver I don't expect either to happen lol

[@evecarter594]

Once I got the ammo type I only used slugs. I out snipe marksman rifles and use the iron sights because I don't mind them, use the second to last barrel (Bryson choke and laser is your flavor I don't hard scope so I just have the base ads laser and the ADS grip)

[@Sandy-wk7gd]

I felt like one shot kills were inconsistent for me. Sometimes it’d get a one shot and others it’d take two. Headshots felt off too because I’d sometimes have to get two point blank and others I’d get a one shot to the feet.

[@chaddoell]

Hey Ace, I'm surprised your recommended buckshot loadouts don't use Bryson chokes. Did your testing show it didn't have enough benefit?

[@emwols]

I want the crossbow gun guide!

[@thatoneantoid51]

Xclusive Ace doing what Cold War did years ago for the MW2 developers

[@aLousyBum83]

I don't understand cod sometimes. They have introduced a broken semiauto shotgun in basically every cod, let everyone go crazy with it for a few weeks/months, then nerf it to be basically average. We already have the expedite 12 which fills the role of a decent SA shotgun, so I don't really understand introducing this chaos into the game.

[@gunswinger3110]

They probably could nerf the vepr by pulling back that DB damage. The M1014 could get a longer one shot range cuz it's pretty much a hitmarker machine unless its hugging the enemy

[@kingjohn8980]

I want them to add either the AA-12 or the Gen-12 as the full auto shotgun in this game.

[@-R.E.D.A.C.T.E.D-]

I don't think they will. The in game description for the broadside is that it's "the fastest shotgun in its class".

[@kingjohn8980]

@@-R.E.D.A.C.T.E.D- they could always change that at a later date

[@jonathanwilson1539]

@-[REDACTED]- I thought it said fastest firing *semi auto* shotgun in class.

[@jonathanwilson1539]

@@-R.E.D.A.C.T.E.D- just checked the description, and it does. So they do have the wiggle room to put a full auto in..though the community may lose it.

[@-R.E.D.A.C.T.E.D-]

@@jonathanwilson1539 that's true. But from what i heard in every COD, automatic shotguns are a nightmare to balance. Not sure if the devs want the headache again.

[@ryanchong9965]

With the return of shoot the ship (thank god twitter does something useful for once), the broadside makes braindead shipment even more braindead and I couldn't be happier.

[@skuzzyj]

Yup. I got it gold in one game, then finished platinum and polyatomic in the next game. Longshots with this thing were easy. Just spam.

[@anubis4032]

Why?? You like using like using the same gun every single game?

[@ryanchong9965]

@ANUBIS sure, why not? If you find something fun then cool, have fun.

[@alexwilliams7836]

My experience with with dragons breath vs buckshot is inverse to the results found her but i guess thats somehow just related to my play style.

[@MRXrayfire]

this gun is just sooo much fun, even Sniping peoples with slugs/explosive is fun on this gun !

[@daven0509]

I love the kV

[@northernninety7]

This gun with the drum mag is filthy.

[@kingoftherevolution4855]

I am most interested in which muzzle attachments maximize the range of *consistent* 1 or 2 shot kills. They have various effects on damage range and spread, and even with all the numbers it isnt obvious what effect they actually have in practice.

[@ricedbroccoli]

Im pretty sure its the xten improved choke is the best, along with i belive the gunner barrel. thats off the top of my head tho could be wrong

[@zjsz4954]

Damn I already did all my shotguns camos I had no idea dragons breathe was so OP

[@bearwithit]

Hardcore menace

[@zachsss1916]

I’d change the 12rd mag for the 65% choke in the op build, especially with fast hands

[@r.j.bedore9884]

Ace, will you be doing the crossbow gun guide next, or continuing with the shotguns?

[@TheXclusiveAce]

I'm planning on squeezing the Crossbow in next and then I'll finish the rest of the shotguns

[@MrAlbysky]

Reminds me of the Striker from MW3

[@DEE-Reece22]

I love trying to get point blank kills against this with a minibak. Most fun I've ever had.

[@kidthekiddo8996]

Ace, i don’t think that first range with the dots translates very well. maybe make the dots larger, or white, or use black for that first range. i’m not colorblind, but i know some ppl are. hope this helps

[@Insertnamehere3000]

This gun is why I don’t play anyone. Everyone was using it

[@jonathanwilson1539]

I could be wrong on this Ace, but I was just trying your Slug build. I think this game is limiting the barrels range increases because it was not one shoting the 20m dummy in the firing range. Does the Frag Round still 2 shot people with Bomb Squad? If so, might I suggest dropping the barrel, equipping the Frag Rounds, and then maybe suing the True Tac Grip or a laser? (Edit:) my bad, drop the barrel for the True Tac or something else maybe.

[@kerim_og_9378]

lol i started to finish my orion grind (finished polyatomic) and shipment right now is a broadside dragonsbreath spam

[@seanseams6308]

Yes lol drooped a casual 84-45 on shipment using it with dragons breath 😭 but at the same time idk I don’t feel like I get to annoyed by it when I’m going up against it

[@zjsz4954]

Bryson 800 super shorty next please

[@hellstrike5366]

You're insane, Dragon's Breath or not this gun is ridiculous. In very highly skilled lobbies it might not be as big of an issue since people insta kill you with any gun but in the average lobby this thing turns scrubs into gods. The fire rate paired with a 25 Shell Mag people just spam the crap out it annihilating everything in their path.

[@FinalQueue007]

Short answer, yes

[@roXXXXXon]

It's just a matter of time until the dragonsbreath will be nerfed. So I basically play the all arounder build since I unlocked it, but I use an underbarrel attachment instead of 12 rounds, cause I don't need it in hardcore

[@WigneyR]

Yes, yes it is

[@kevinclapson]

Last couple days has just reminded my why they nerfed auto-shotguns in the previous game.

[@patricbromii1178]

KV Broadside shotgun is based on Molot Vepr-12 real life shotgun

[@TearsOfHeroin]

They need to add akimbo for kv and fennec, as IW is known for not balancing their game this will help to maintain the reputation.

[@subzero142]

DB got buffed which is the reason its op with most guns right now, like the 1 shot snipers anywhere in the body and able to 1 shot in wz

[@prmxcdog]

Can u do a test and see if different / bigger operators have smaller or bigger hit boxes ?

[@TheXclusiveAce]

All operators have the exact same hitbox

[@moodmusicytc]

I bet the QA testers had a fucking field day with this gun and didn't mention how OP it is

[@e2snake86]

what about underbarrel attachments that improve the Hipfire?

[@simplegreen808]

Worst one shot kill? No problem, here’s 20 more 😂

[@sovietduga9747]

Because of this gun, I no longer fear shipment, now shipment fears me!

[@MidnightSeth]

How do you get the hipfire circle sight? My build it’s exactly the same as yours but I got the cross one instead of a circular

[@PbZeppelin]

Blast shield?! Bro time travelled back to MW3 ☠️

[@jacklucas5908]

The Dragons Breath rounds turns this thing into the ultimate crutch weapon for hyperactive coke fiends that I get matched against!

[@Kaiserland111]

What's up with the lack of ADS speed impacts for the barrels? That's some pretty important data.

[@xrphoenix7194]

Hey Ace I'd really appreciate it if you spoke about the HPR news which came out a few days ago in regards to ranked. I think this is an absolute disaster of a system that arbitrarily sticks people in a rank which doesn't accurately portray their skill and basically ruins ranked.

[@Masochistickoala]

the ranked system doesnt even work properly. Im bronze and consistently see diamonds and golds on the enemy team

[@danny_vrsociety]

I agree. The whole point about ranked is that you can easily understand how your actions affect your rank, and track that change in rank. Having a secondary ranking system that's hidden defeats the purpose of a ranked mode-it should be fully integrated and visible alongside SR. Personally, I think it would be great if you saw your progress in-game, to further drive the understanding of how actions in game are tied to SR so you can adjust your gameplay on the fly.

[@ScorpionXXXVII]

​@DannyLo I'm sure their reasoning (whether that reasoning makes sense is a separate issue) is that people will try to game and maximize whatever actions add to rank. Say you get X(times on objective) + X(kills) + Win. You'd have everyone staying on objective or going for kills depending on what gets a bigger multiplier. You can have situations where you'll lose a game because too many people are trying to do the same thing, even if they are trying to win over anything else. . I'd say the reasoning doesn't make sense. Comp FPS games have figured this out already. Just copy CS and other games.

[@sherKhan-qq7cy]

Whats hpr?

[@hovno3858]

@@sherKhan-qq7cy hidden performance rating

[@AvarageYakuzaEnjoyer]

I love this gun a lot, except for the fact that it squandered my dreams of getting a USAS 12. Tbf, we already had the in MW2019, but it would have been even more braindead to just hold down automatic fire, and not even have to tap the button.

[@SmokeyOwOs]

Honestly I've had fun picking it up as groundloot. It's hilarious being able to kill people trying 2v1 me.

[@MrChadsimoneaux]

@7:12 is that range chart actually scaled to the map?? Thanks, love the content.

[@TheXclusiveAce]

Yep it is!