Is the T-14 Armata Better Than The Panther KF51?

  Рет қаралды 61,519

Military TV

Military TV

Күн бұрын

When it comes to comparing the T-14 Armata and the Panther KF51 tanks, there's a lot to consider. Are we talking about which one packs a bigger punch, or which one can hit targets precisely from kilometers away? The answer isn't straightforward, as Russia and Germany have put a ton of effort into making tanks that reflect their unique design philosophies.
The rivalry between the T-14 Armata and the Panther KF51 represents a modern chapter in the longstanding tradition of tank design. They each come from different backgrounds, shaped by the engineering prowess and strategic foresight of their respective nations. While comparisons are inherently complex due to specific ways they're supposed to be used and where they'll operate, looking at the strengths and weaknesses of these tanks can give us some useful insights.
In this exploration, we'll dig into the intricacies of their technology, firepower, mobility, and protection. Stay with us as we break down the world of tank design, revealing what makes the T-14 Armata and the Panther KF51 unique.
Subscribe Now :
/ @military-tv

Пікірлер: 437
@mohdamiruddinsulaiman1383
@mohdamiruddinsulaiman1383 9 ай бұрын
KF51 look like Cyber Tank. Both are good looking
@MarkFarrington-hb2ne
@MarkFarrington-hb2ne 9 ай бұрын
It's down to the circumstances, the crews, strategic factors, it's pointless looking for an overall supremacy of an individual tank, it doesn't exist and never did
@russellk.bonney8534
@russellk.bonney8534 9 ай бұрын
The T14 has been seen in Ukraine a couple of times. The videos have not been geolocated.
@justinscott1691
@justinscott1691 9 ай бұрын
Except in several cases proved in combat over many decades from multiple countries, but other then that theirs none.
@MilitaryTechnologyChannel
@MilitaryTechnologyChannel 9 ай бұрын
agreed
@alexkiss-ut8yl
@alexkiss-ut8yl 8 ай бұрын
из видео понятно только то что кф51 по стоимости как 3 арматы,а на поле боя 3 против одного очень весомо,в германии один человек уже строил дорогие танки в 1941 и проиграл из за этого)
@aegusew
@aegusew 8 ай бұрын
Если не считать тот случай, что мы произведём его в тысячном эквиваленте
@sonnyjim5268
@sonnyjim5268 9 ай бұрын
A comparison is premature. The panther is still in development, we don't know what the final version will look like.
@Brian-qj4kk
@Brian-qj4kk 9 ай бұрын
same as t14
@katyushatman5187
@katyushatman5187 9 ай бұрын
nothing because it will be too expensive to mass produce
@travismccraw6013
@travismccraw6013 9 ай бұрын
​@@katyushatman5187 how is it to expensive for Germany. Are you aware of the k51 panther hull is a modified leopard 2 hull? The same can't be said for armata.
@alexanderjason434
@alexanderjason434 9 ай бұрын
@@travismccraw6013Mercedes & Miele and a ton of companies went from Germany to Russia, China , Eastern Europe thx to globalist bastards like Klaus Schwab Soros and your climate freaks
@jvdh2731
@jvdh2731 9 ай бұрын
@@travismccraw6013Your anwering to a russian supporter. Don't bother.
@hybridarmyoffreeworld
@hybridarmyoffreeworld 8 ай бұрын
Russia abandons Armata tank. The head of the Russian defence conglomerate Rostec, Sergey Chemezov: Attributed this decision to the tank’s exorbitant cost, indicating that the military is opting for the more economical T-90 tanks instead.
@foshizzlfizzl
@foshizzlfizzl 7 ай бұрын
Of course, Russia has to use their resources wisely. Why should they use it, when the T-90M is absolutely enough for this purpose?? Would you wear your best shouse to McDonald's???
@hybridarmyoffreeworld
@hybridarmyoffreeworld 7 ай бұрын
@@foshizzlfizzl " Если бы провалилась Московия, то не было бы никакого ни убытка, ни волнения в человечестве. " ( Иван Тургенев )
@foshizzlfizzl
@foshizzlfizzl 7 ай бұрын
@@hybridarmyoffreeworld Если бы не было Московского княжества, не было бы сегодня вашего окрайнского государства...
@hybridarmyoffreeworld
@hybridarmyoffreeworld 7 ай бұрын
@@foshizzlfizzl we have been fighting your barbaric oriental h o r d e for the centuries , we Litwins know the drill ... "Let us begin with this evident fact: Muscovy does not belong at all to Europe, but to Asia. It follows that judging Muscovy and the Muscovites by our European standards is a mistake to be avoided."-gonzague de reynold, 19501 In methodological terms, one should de-Europeanise any analysis of Muscovy policy.- thomas gomart, 20062 "
@zihmanis
@zihmanis Ай бұрын
@@foshizzlfizzl sure sure, or maybe it was never ment to be real? just like russian stelth jet? The most of the money for the project was probably stolen, and sudenly they have reasons to not continue it. Just like russian drone that was advertised, laser weapons, the robot that sat on motorbike etc.
@BHS25
@BHS25 9 ай бұрын
It depend on the buyers... Russia customer prefer it's tank for being relatively cheaper than western counterparts. But since T_14 is over budget I don't think it will get many orders.
@aegusew
@aegusew 8 ай бұрын
Thousands
@Josurr_Madhawk
@Josurr_Madhawk 7 ай бұрын
They'll sell a modified and cheaper variant of it. Most countries actually sell a weaker version of what they themselves are using, stopping you from arming a future enemy with equivalent weapons. That or They'll offer all those T-72s, T-80s, and T-90s at a cheaper rate, or their more powerful counterparts, or both.
@rendezvouzwithrama
@rendezvouzwithrama 3 ай бұрын
Plus since they've only built 24 in 10 years, I think buyers will select a tank that will be delivered in numbers BEFORE they die of old age.
@zero1breaker
@zero1breaker 9 ай бұрын
I would choose a tank that uses a drone for long range target detection and acquisition with jamming capability.
@southyboy576
@southyboy576 9 ай бұрын
I'll give Germany this they do make the best looking tanks
@glfan896
@glfan896 9 ай бұрын
Panther (what a familiar name) is the highest achievement of current tank architecture. Armata is probably a harbinger of new architecture, and by the existence of a completely isolated weapons module (turret) it seems to offer the possibility of easier modernization. It will be possible to compare them honestly after both of them take part in a real war.
@MilitaryTechnologyChannel
@MilitaryTechnologyChannel 9 ай бұрын
agreed
@SonOfTheDawn515
@SonOfTheDawn515 7 ай бұрын
The T14 was scrapped with cost being the factor. The company announced this a couple of months ago. Muscovite Federation can't afford to produce as many that are needed and instead improving current designs to meet need and cost factor.
@TheGrindcorps
@TheGrindcorps 7 ай бұрын
@@MilitaryTechnologyChannelThe T-14 wasn’t scrapped. They abounded within the last few weeks that it has passed all state trials and is ready for serial production. It is definitely very far behind schedule but it will still be by far the most advanced tank in serial production when that starts this year. They solved reliability Issues have overcome difficulties in mass production.
@QuicksilverVM
@QuicksilverVM 6 ай бұрын
@@SonOfTheDawn515 lol what a BS i watch russian media and this is the lie of the year
@berschte
@berschte 9 ай бұрын
Panther is much heavier than t 14, might be a disadvantage in difficult terrain.
@TheAns51
@TheAns51 9 ай бұрын
This is true. Atleast in soft and muddy open field terrains that is majority of terrain in this war in which russian tanks are actually effective as they are fast going onwards on fields. However in forestry and rocky terrain like in northern europe i think german tanks and perhaps all NATO tanks would excel muuuch better than russian tanks. Mostly because russian tanks have terrible reverse speed which is crucial in not open terrain where you need to steer veery much and skip obstacles like big rocks etc. In Finland, our leopard 2a4's and 2a6's are fast beasts in rocky forest environments. I have seen Leopard 2a4 go through many quite thick trees with relatively slow speeds and over rocks that are over 1-1.5 meters high, where as in some videos from this conflict many russian tanks have stopped on basic trees like a car on a brick wall but i have also seen them go straight through them too. Also as seen in this war, western vehicles has much higher crew survivability rate which, i think, comes them being heavier with armor and better design. So lightness or heaviness both have up and downsides and where these vehicles excell does depend much of environment they are used and how they are used. Overall this war has shown modern tanks weaknesses more than better on both sides. Rear and bottom is not anymore the most vulnerable sides of armored vehicles but top also and modern times we have more accurate artillery, missiles and drones to attack from above. This war will greatly change how next generation of armored vehicles are designed.
@szymonjagodzinski6880
@szymonjagodzinski6880 9 ай бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@Benz2533
@Benz2533 9 ай бұрын
This one better not get capture, Putin did said that he wants to revise on the Russian heavy tank. And this year the military budget increase by 200%. With so many nato tank being capture, the Russian scientists can skip so many spending on research base on NATO tank heavy design.
@travismccraw6013
@travismccraw6013 9 ай бұрын
@@Benz2533 russia hasn't captured any western tank. Where did you get that from??
@Benz2533
@Benz2533 9 ай бұрын
@@travismccraw6013 I literally saw leopard 2 parade around Mariopul. Unless you dont count German as NATO member or western. On the bright side, Challenger 2 did not get capture yet, only destroyed, just like Abram but then again, the varient of Abram chassis is capture.
@riton1112
@riton1112 9 ай бұрын
Neither of them has seen direct combat
@phillcasedy2228
@phillcasedy2228 9 ай бұрын
The T14 has.
@anthony4123
@anthony4123 9 ай бұрын
@@phillcasedy2228they were in ukraine?
@Mopar_logic
@Mopar_logic 9 ай бұрын
​@@phillcasedy2228you mean on the military parade where it overheated and spilled all it's fluids??! 😂😂😂
@phillcasedy2228
@phillcasedy2228 9 ай бұрын
@@anthony4123 Syria
@VGYugo
@VGYugo 9 ай бұрын
@@Mopar_logicYes similar to Russians are running out of tanks, artillery, man and ammo. Or let’s not forget the best fighter jet the world has ever seen F-22 Raptor going missing, found crashed in the woods.
@shankewang5802
@shankewang5802 7 ай бұрын
KF51 is the new Rheinmetall gun carrier, so it's probably not much better than the Leopards. But where's the LOG on the T-14? How are they going to maneuver over Siberia?
@CarlChaitanya
@CarlChaitanya 9 ай бұрын
The T-14 I personally think is a better tank . However any tank is only as a good as it's operator
@thetest8777
@thetest8777 9 ай бұрын
Right
@Benz2533
@Benz2533 9 ай бұрын
yep. See this first hand how Leopard 2A6 suppose to be better then T-72 but ... ho well.
@kennypowers1005
@kennypowers1005 9 ай бұрын
T-14 is first and foremost fiction.
@mohdamiruddinsulaiman1383
@mohdamiruddinsulaiman1383 9 ай бұрын
Wise words
@TorsteinOpperud
@TorsteinOpperud 9 ай бұрын
@@Benz2533 the 2a6 absolutely seems to work far better than the t-72, of course you cant drive it right through a minefield without losing a track, but we have seen it shrug off two successive atgm hits and just keep going, and they havent really lost many at all, they just have far too few to really make a difference, and they got them way too late. If those atgms instead had hit an t-72 the turret would have gone flying as usual, and the crew would have been charcoal. But even in most of the cases where a 2a6 have been lost, the crew have survived.
@generalsmite7167
@generalsmite7167 2 ай бұрын
The T 14 was never as modern and advanced as people made it out to be on its theoretical operating. On top of that it never actually truly existed in the way people thought and will never likely be fielded. The Panther on the other hand is not only real but a next generation tank that would be far ahead not only technically but on reliability.
@EH76239
@EH76239 9 ай бұрын
Fpv drones: Ok cool
@swat9844
@swat9844 8 ай бұрын
panther kf, has anti drone
@PotatoBoy44
@PotatoBoy44 9 ай бұрын
The T14 is so good it won't get damaged it won't get hit won't even get spotted, almost as if it's not an actual tank...
@rtasvadam1776
@rtasvadam1776 8 ай бұрын
Well the KF51 has yet to be approved for mass production as far as I know
@Llkc60
@Llkc60 9 ай бұрын
Specs are specs. The only way to know the capabilities of any equipment is to see them in a large scale industrial conflict where neither side holds back. Based on these requirements not even the Ukraine war offers a sufficient testing ground
@zezenkop412
@zezenkop412 9 ай бұрын
Wtf are you talking about
@knightatdawndonbynight8432
@knightatdawndonbynight8432 9 ай бұрын
It also does not remain restricted just to numerically identical tank vs tank battles and boils down to how they cope with evolving threats and tactics in a long drawn war. Fast maintenance and availability of critical spare parts also matter in coping with attrition issues.
@Llkc60
@Llkc60 9 ай бұрын
@@knightatdawndonbynight8432 well put.
@Matthias-fk5md
@Matthias-fk5md 9 ай бұрын
Genau darauf wird ja hingearbeitet. Bin auch schon gespannt wie diese Show mal endet 😅
@Monkey-ud8bw
@Monkey-ud8bw 9 ай бұрын
Both tanks aren’t in production, the Armata’s that have been made are not operational. The three sent to Syria were going out for operational testing, the nearest near peer they saw would have been an old T-72 at best. It would be interesting to see how they done against ATGM’s. The technology in the Panther is going to be right up there regardless of what the final version looks like. I can’t imagine the 130mm being used, if only for STANAG. If however the XM-1 Abrams has an upgrade to 130mm, then expect all new Western tanks to adopt this calibre. The other reason for 130mm not being chosen is storage, the round is massive, which obviously means unless you are going to make the tank bigger and heavier, you are going to have to compromise on the amount you can carry. Obviously this comes with a knock on affect of resupply, transportation and terrain it can be used in.
@RobertFoly
@RobertFoly 9 ай бұрын
Loader Joe will quickly run out of steam throwing shells into the 130mm gun 😂
@depressedodst2610
@depressedodst2610 7 ай бұрын
Can't find the link anyway now but at first I fully believed the t14 wasn't being used at all but there is a video of it actually being used in live combat now at first I believed it was just a t90m but the clip cut to a different angle and that's when I realized it was a t14 and the story was it was used very briefly about 2 or 4 days but at the end of the clip showing it get hit by a ATGM and it got hit in the turret and the crew did survive however it seems the turret has little armor as the ATGM quite literally peeled the side of the turret off causing the main gun to be exposed with the loading mechanism and after that incident they took them off the field
@ОлегПетров-ш2у
@ОлегПетров-ш2у 3 ай бұрын
Ты наверное туповат, ну это не лечится.
@chaosmarine979
@chaosmarine979 9 ай бұрын
didnt T14 broke down twice in a parade and since 2014 only 20something has been made ? and still russian tanks don't have blow out panels so basically to each destroyed tank there will be a destroyed crew(most likely)
@TheStealthGW
@TheStealthGW 8 ай бұрын
Сколько же необразованных людей сидит в Ютубе...
@chief8559
@chief8559 8 ай бұрын
Didnt you said you had low iq? 😂
@Galileo1491
@Galileo1491 9 ай бұрын
Id take the armata
@rodrigoquiroga8590
@rodrigoquiroga8590 9 ай бұрын
I don t know which one is better, but for sure the germans and then the russians have made the best tanks since WWII
@ollieoniel
@ollieoniel Ай бұрын
I drew a tank on paper that could beat both these tanks. It has a mile of armour and its gun is wider that a stadium. It is so easy to mass produce that a million could be made in single day. The T-14 is a paper tank, none of its features work, the thick front armour would weight down the tank so much that it would ride on the front wheels. It's what you get when you have someone just spouting off crap from the top of their head. Who barely knows how things work.
@megalith1368
@megalith1368 9 ай бұрын
“Testament to Russia’s tank design” In that case their tank design history is very small is they only have 5-7 T-14s
@FrostGiant91
@FrostGiant91 7 ай бұрын
KF51 Panther: "Slow and careful stance looking for enemy in sight" T-14 Armata: "Speeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeen"
@WaldoTheWombat
@WaldoTheWombat 9 ай бұрын
Everyone always talks about speed, but you can't really drive fast with a tank without hurting the crew seating in the turret when you enter a hole.
@ALP839
@ALP839 9 ай бұрын
Is this the reason why the Russians don't put crew into the turret? 😂
@WaldoTheWombat
@WaldoTheWombat 9 ай бұрын
@@ALP839 the top part is called a turret isn't?
@Klaus1386
@Klaus1386 8 ай бұрын
@@WaldoTheWombatMore or less.
@aopt471
@aopt471 8 ай бұрын
There might be more prototypes of the KF51 than actual T-14 in the world. Think about that.
@foshizzlfizzl
@foshizzlfizzl 7 ай бұрын
There is only one prototype.. So, not really
@426replica
@426replica 5 ай бұрын
2:28 i have 15 $ left where can i buy 3 of them?
@law-abiding-criminal
@law-abiding-criminal 9 ай бұрын
Which is more resiliant to drone and artillery attacks
@SonOfTheDawn515
@SonOfTheDawn515 7 ай бұрын
Neither. Tanks would be too heavy to transport or be able to maneuver on the battlefield.
@kenneththebruce
@kenneththebruce 9 ай бұрын
You cant compare these tanks as they have not been into combat. One is fairly new (KF51) and the other hides in hangers far from battle (T14).
@drewsterwa
@drewsterwa 9 ай бұрын
To be honest I would have to do with the Challenger 3. It's previous iteration was the world's finest tanks.
@drbendover7467
@drbendover7467 9 ай бұрын
It's simply which one will come out to play:)
@AUDI15849
@AUDI15849 9 ай бұрын
T-14 Armata is better
@kuidezso8465
@kuidezso8465 8 ай бұрын
❤Congratulation RUSSIA ❤ Constantly Upgrade Allll Weapons ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤ Defffend &Deffense Globall ❤
@florinssj2289
@florinssj2289 8 ай бұрын
Wake up, russia is an old trash
@HoBoeBpeM9l
@HoBoeBpeM9l 9 ай бұрын
И всё-таки, меня не перестаёт раздражать, что люди сравнивают вооружение как в каких-то играх. Реальная война - это общевойсковой бой. Чтобы вы хорошо поняли, насколько ваше представление о танках неправильное, узнайте о том, какие задачи ставятся перед конкретной техникой. Вы будете удивлены даже тому, что у каждой техники есть формально определенная роль, а не просто характеристики.
@RobertFoly
@RobertFoly 9 ай бұрын
А ты думаешь, у людей, занятых работой, есть время сидеть и строчить комментарии и смотреть глупые ролики от диванных аналитиков? Здесь сидят инфанты в среднем возрасте от 10 до 50 лет, и строчат глупые комментарии. Они не обременены способностью думать и анализировать. 😂
@martinuhr6760
@martinuhr6760 9 ай бұрын
Panther stands in a tradition...the name still was used...80 years before...the design of the "Panther" and its features...make it to a "Hearttank"...i always will be with the Panther...i am a german...i stand with "PANTHER"!...
@2011mranderson
@2011mranderson 9 ай бұрын
There is a difference. One of them works and the other one had failed to work in public and is in reality scrapped.
@mrwhips3623
@mrwhips3623 9 ай бұрын
Wrong. The operator put the parking brake on
@ALP839
@ALP839 9 ай бұрын
​@@mrwhips3623Unbelievably enough are there still some people who don't know this.
@pashapasovski5860
@pashapasovski5860 9 ай бұрын
Dude, you wouldn't know reality if it bites your ass!
@madalinradion
@madalinradion 9 ай бұрын
​​@@mrwhips3623here come the excuses, "nah bro trust me bro it was just the handbrake not the ww2 era engine dying because it's old shit trust me bro"
@burninhellfish
@burninhellfish 8 ай бұрын
how can You compare 2 top secret tanks? yo don't even known the thickness of their shielding
@ottomuller8972
@ottomuller8972 9 ай бұрын
Comparing tanks like that is like comparing apple to pineapple first you need to start at the different military doctrines these tanks are made for because if we take the basic "nato-soviet" leopard and t- series tanks is a completely different
@RobertFoly
@RobertFoly 9 ай бұрын
The Koreans have a NATO school of tank building. The Merkava tank was created in NATO countries, England in particular. What experience do the Koreans have in creating tanks?
@swat9844
@swat9844 8 ай бұрын
And you know soviet doctrine😂, if t 14 are expensive, then they use soviet doctrine russia will be come a poor country
@NovaGames001
@NovaGames001 9 ай бұрын
Personally, I wouldn't want to be hydraulically sealed into a tank, with really terrible optics, but that is just me.
@charleschapman2428
@charleschapman2428 9 ай бұрын
Thumbs down for the Panthers torsion bar suspension.
@Dirtdabber1972
@Dirtdabber1972 9 ай бұрын
I don't know if anyone has been in a tank with torsion bars if they break one but it is a major job to fix
@geosharpe203
@geosharpe203 9 ай бұрын
Interesting
@franzheger2871
@franzheger2871 9 ай бұрын
The Version for ungary will first become a 120mm gun to ammunition compatiblitay to nato when i remember right. Germany goes with the A8. Seen no Aramta beside parades, not much produced and problems with engines (Design goes back to a german engine). The KF51 can use Drones for scouting or attacking. It can have 4 crews -> better mainteance during operation. Ukraine shows: no tank is safe, the question is: which crew lives longer.
@AtroposLeshesis
@AtroposLeshesis 7 ай бұрын
Why is there a debate in the first place... 20 tanks and no future production not to mention that none of the claims made about the t14 have even been verified
@e92junkie
@e92junkie 9 ай бұрын
Let's see how many are actually manufactured over the next 5 years.
@usuariopimba707
@usuariopimba707 9 ай бұрын
what changes in a weapon is how adapted it is to the current war, the panther is literally just like the leopard, there is nothing very different about it, unlike the Russians who have been participating in wars and adapting their weapons according to the threats. Germans stopped at the old leopard design, this panter is more comparable with the T-90M which does the same thing to improve an old design which in this case was the T-72., the T14 is completely new.
@Amadourrr
@Amadourrr 9 ай бұрын
both beautiful designs
@Tzeda_
@Tzeda_ 5 ай бұрын
and now we have the leopard 2 ARC 3.0/Leopard 3
@normanmadden
@normanmadden 9 ай бұрын
Pretty sure the Russian tank can beat any tank in the world, in a turret high jumping contest.
@emanuelpetre5491
@emanuelpetre5491 9 ай бұрын
if you're so tough why do you fight your wars by proxy
@rendezvouzwithrama
@rendezvouzwithrama 3 ай бұрын
@@emanuelpetre5491 And you're so tough you bomb hospitals and air raid shelters.
@rtasvadam1776
@rtasvadam1776 2 ай бұрын
​@@rendezvouzwithrama or random blocks of flats
@rendezvouzwithrama
@rendezvouzwithrama 2 ай бұрын
@@rtasvadam1776 I'm sure a Russian would say they were disguised missile silos 😁
@edwardstevens6787
@edwardstevens6787 3 ай бұрын
No...
@CarlosAlberto-eo8tc
@CarlosAlberto-eo8tc 9 ай бұрын
Russia is the best military in the world America is in choking mode now
@megalith1368
@megalith1368 9 ай бұрын
If they’re the best, how come they’ve barely made progress in Ukraine(which is 1/25th of their size) in about half a year
@Schwarze_Sheep
@Schwarze_Sheep 9 ай бұрын
You cant compare these tank's because no one knows what they can do damn click baite vid's.
@gregk.6723
@gregk.6723 9 ай бұрын
Like comparing apples to nothing ! One exists, the other is a pipe dream.
@tomazznidarko8700
@tomazznidarko8700 9 ай бұрын
As the Ukranian battleground shows, a tank is as good as his crew and what can it show in real battle, not on paper or in propaganda material.
@sabbirhossanchowdhury
@sabbirhossanchowdhury 9 ай бұрын
Why does all of your video speech is AI generated😂 It really sucks
@caloyskienonoyiii7102
@caloyskienonoyiii7102 7 ай бұрын
As of now we cannot say whose the best tank,sincePanther still in its development stage. All of these analysis base on paper. We can judge them on actual battle who will stand out. Just like in Ukraine before the arrival of western tank lots of defence blogger and media taunted the ability with hype underdog the russian tank that according to them would change the table to ukraine, but upon stepping on to battle field almost all western taunted tank easily burned out and converted into scrap.
@MilitaryTechnologyChannel
@MilitaryTechnologyChannel 9 ай бұрын
nice video, lets compare with leopard 2
@NickWard-bz4jo
@NickWard-bz4jo 9 ай бұрын
You can't beat German engineering. It's not even up for debate. IMHO
@adrianbooth438
@adrianbooth438 9 ай бұрын
One big difference between them is that the Panther KF51 actually exists...
@darkrolf7185
@darkrolf7185 9 ай бұрын
there are 2 Prototypes, one only made for optical use. The T14 has already about 30 models that underwent testing. So, what was that?
@MrRacing44
@MrRacing44 9 ай бұрын
Wow 30 you say I’ll take the Korean tank . Thats the safe bet the ruzzians have shown just to be a paper bear .
@adrianbooth438
@adrianbooth438 9 ай бұрын
@@darkrolf7185 you are right, and I was wrong. It was an attempt to make a joke.
@thetest8777
@thetest8777 9 ай бұрын
​@@darkrolf7185nah 100 are in production for now about 1000 by the time the ukraine war ends
@thetest8777
@thetest8777 9 ай бұрын
​@MrRacing44 but they took over 45 percent of ukraine 😂😂 lol U don't even do your research and only hear second hand information
@katyushatman5187
@katyushatman5187 9 ай бұрын
kf51 is just another leo2 variant, armata is a completly new tank what cut ties to its predecessors
@szymonjagodzinski6880
@szymonjagodzinski6880 9 ай бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@garryaustria624
@garryaustria624 5 күн бұрын
Ok you said production where are they now
@edwindeleeuw6590
@edwindeleeuw6590 9 ай бұрын
No. Next question...
@Jimmy-fy3oi
@Jimmy-fy3oi 5 ай бұрын
It all depends on the crew
@KoKissaki
@KoKissaki 9 ай бұрын
Demonstrator vs. Per Series….what can Go wrong?
@StPiter111
@StPiter111 9 ай бұрын
Armata T14 is going to be a fully automatic unmanned machine in a few years time😎
@klaabu99
@klaabu99 9 ай бұрын
so u say that kf51 is better tank now ... but t14 will be better tank
@klaabu99
@klaabu99 9 ай бұрын
btw what u mean by fully automatic??? autoloader?
@StPiter111
@StPiter111 9 ай бұрын
@@klaabu99 the best tanks get and hold lands and territories. 😎 Tigers and Panthers were more expensive and more powerful than Russian T34. However, Russian tanks took Berlin, and German tanks went to Moscow victories' museums. 🙂
@StPiter111
@StPiter111 9 ай бұрын
@@klaabu99 it's already semi-automatic. T14 2.0 will be like Tesla with a cannon😁 No fear, no mistakes, no death for operators😎
@provokedfob
@provokedfob 9 ай бұрын
You are aware that at the end of the war, most of the soviet union was using western gear and vehicles because the west sent 100's of thousands of it because the commi's didnt have sht anymore? 😅
@didinekouidri9433
@didinekouidri9433 3 ай бұрын
Now 152 mm for the 14-armata
@castlerock58
@castlerock58 9 ай бұрын
The T-14 is still a prototype that has not been put into production. It could be that the Russians are applying what they are learning what they are learning in Ukraine before putting it into production. They seem more interested in producing the latest T-90 and restarted production of the T-80. The Russians are said to have tested some T-14's but it has not been spotted on the battlefield by the Ukrainians. It is clearly not in combat in any numbers. It may never be put into production. If they were going to do so, you think they would have done so by now. Perhaps a production version will show up on the battlefield later this year with a revolutionary solution to antitank missiles and drones that is based on Russian experience on the battlefield.
@Josurr_Madhawk
@Josurr_Madhawk 7 ай бұрын
Russia has had a few setbacks and issues with the T-14. Part of the problem, in my opinion, is that they're developing the T-14 as a versatile and modular chassis. It's not going to be just a tank, but it's also a mobile artillery gun platform, armored AA gun, and possibly other roles. So the real work is the Chassis and engine, then adapting all those interchangeable parts and having it all work fine. They are definitely learning what's going on in ukraine and adapting it to all their projects in development. Russia is probably looking into some ways to maintain or improve effectiveness but increase its scalable production and keep it cheaper than western counterparts. Though based on some developments that I have heard, from both T-14 and the recent improvements of the AK12, it would seem that Russia is focusing on streamlining logistics, training, maybe reconnaissance with how drones are being used, and overall survivability. A lot of weird moving parts that will most certainly complicate developments and most definitely come with a lot of compromises.
@specs_u
@specs_u 9 ай бұрын
Its all about the crew
@christophermiller8950
@christophermiller8950 9 ай бұрын
both will get shwacked by a 2K$ drone.
@RobertFoly
@RobertFoly 9 ай бұрын
At the end of last year, T14 was used. Not in direct combat. The cross-country ability and maneuverability of the base were assessed. We rallied the crews of T14 tanks. And they fired at enemy positions with howitzer fire. Based on the data received, the T14 platform was sent for revision.
@feyech8291
@feyech8291 9 ай бұрын
And i think they hit their target at 7 or 8 km ? I don't remember
@Benz2533
@Benz2533 9 ай бұрын
@@feyech8291 this is just too crazy, that is the same range as the alligator heli new update missiles.
@feyech8291
@feyech8291 9 ай бұрын
@@Benz2533 the KA52 Alligator have a range of 15km with his new missiles. The T14 have an effective fire range of 5km and a max fire range of 12km with his 125mm canon. They will UP grade the canon to a 152mm ( Its in their plan ) that will UP grade the fire range.
@Benz2533
@Benz2533 9 ай бұрын
@@feyech8291 Not the new whirlwind missile. the normal cheaper version of missile that get the fuel upgrade mass production and cheaper missile.
@tasman006
@tasman006 9 ай бұрын
The Arfarta tank is just a properganda tank and those few that have been made I pretty sure Russia is to scared to employ them or there are still problems with the desighn and they can't do what is advertised. The KF51 Panther is just a demonstration tank and if it goes ahead I'm sure it will be way superior than the Arfarta Russian properganda tank.
@Matthias-fk5md
@Matthias-fk5md 9 ай бұрын
Bist Du Dir sicher, soso. Ich bin da nicht so sicher.😅
@JoeyRay-fz1qe
@JoeyRay-fz1qe 4 ай бұрын
Too soon to decide on that but the Panther will have a 130mm gun and the T-14 will have a 152mm gun. On that it goes to the T-14!
@simtill
@simtill Ай бұрын
Has the T-14 become operational? Afaik it is still vaporware.
@korana6308
@korana6308 9 ай бұрын
6:45 slight mistake in an AI text to speech algorithm. The guy starts using French accentuated words with an English accent lol.
@babaayaga9380
@babaayaga9380 9 ай бұрын
t 14 has safest crew compartment capsule than all of russian tanks
@RobertFoly
@RobertFoly 9 ай бұрын
The capsule has not yet been tested in real combat. But the T14 has already been fired at many times from captured heavy NATO weapons, including M777 howitzers at the training ground.
@stevweb456
@stevweb456 9 ай бұрын
​@@RobertFoly LOL
@johnedwards2696
@johnedwards2696 9 ай бұрын
I'd rather a T14 in my garage.
@stevenkerry3101
@stevenkerry3101 9 ай бұрын
pointless exercise asking which is best the Armata has been produced and not used why because it is probably not fit for purpose the German tank is still in development so things may change with that and at the end of the day a tank is only as good as it's crew .
@klaabu99
@klaabu99 9 ай бұрын
who said they did not used armatas ... they were on military parade .. and it was their purpose
@stevenkerry3101
@stevenkerry3101 9 ай бұрын
that@@klaabu99 that's not the point how can they credit a tanks potential if not used in battle but i know what you mean it was present in the parade and broke down .
@madalinradion
@madalinradion 9 ай бұрын
​@@klaabu99😂😂 tanks are meant for military parades you heard it here first folks, no wonder the capability of the t14 keeps getting better and better with no substance to back up the claims despite the numerous reports that the t14 often falls far short of its paper capability, how typically russian, pull all the bombastic claims without ever providing a shred of proof just so you can scare the west, slap that scrap metal once and I bet it blows up
@factsforlife0O0
@factsforlife0O0 9 ай бұрын
I would like to add the Russians have had a REALLY REALLY REALLY BAD run with its tank engines all T series tanks had extremely heavy issues with the engines breaking down in combat and High maintenance cost to repair and maintain the engines in combat conditions so I dont want to hear about the engine of the T-14 because even Ukrainians have called the factories of these tanks to complain about the engines as a joke to say we captured your T-72B3 because they were even having a extremely hard time fixing them
@klaabu99
@klaabu99 9 ай бұрын
is it just me, but i don't think there is enough place in armata turret for 45 rounds
@HoBoeBpeM9l
@HoBoeBpeM9l 9 ай бұрын
Посмотри устройство танка, это недолго
@ALP839
@ALP839 9 ай бұрын
​​@@HoBoeBpeM9lThose stupid Russians. Can't even count the amount of rounds to fill the turret and give it a shape what isn't obviously able to withstand some gunfire... 🤦How I am loving all you experts. 😂😂😂
@RobertFoly
@RobertFoly 9 ай бұрын
ammunition is not in the turret.
@DM_Laf
@DM_Laf 9 ай бұрын
The Panter looks better. T90 is best for money
@AlbeMdz
@AlbeMdz 4 ай бұрын
Both are easy targets for drones.
@jonathon5411
@jonathon5411 9 ай бұрын
The panther will be rubbish just like the leopard 2
@gunmasterx1164
@gunmasterx1164 8 ай бұрын
T-14 program was just cancelled so this video is now irrelevant 🤣🤣🤣
@afghanmilitaryofficer9877
@afghanmilitaryofficer9877 5 күн бұрын
Armata new technologies and Modern Thanks 🇷🇺💪
@ViceCoin
@ViceCoin 9 ай бұрын
Which tank gave better drone defenses? Does KF51 carry gun-launded guided missiles? Can KF51 operate on damaged bridges and muddy roads?
@balerionsmith4038
@balerionsmith4038 9 ай бұрын
what are third and fourth generation tanks?
@kriskt4754
@kriskt4754 8 ай бұрын
Third gen Leopard 2s, M1 Abrams, Challenger 2. Fourth gen K2 Black Panther, Leclerc and Type 10.
@-GenDrive
@-GenDrive 9 ай бұрын
German Power Tank
@hiper59
@hiper59 9 ай бұрын
Le meilleur matériel est celui qui testé et constamment amélioré en temps réel comme le font les russes, le reste des allemands ou autres sont du matériel de salon.
@reaper7910
@reaper7910 9 ай бұрын
If I had to choose which is better, I'd go with the Armata if only because the most common sentiment is for as advanced as Western tanks are, they can be a logistical nightmare whereas Russian tanks aren't as annoying to support. I mean, Russia's been chucking out tanks like crazy lately and I would find it odd if they choose to change from their "keep it simple, stupid" approach
@RobertFoly
@RobertFoly 9 ай бұрын
Russian technology is not based on the principle, the cheaper, the better. The military industrial complex of the USSR and Russia is built in balance on the verge of madness. 3 basic rules, practicality, maintainability and speed of production. Cool expensive equipment differs from cheap equipment in that with expensive equipment it is more difficult to make up for the loss. This does not mean that Russia does not care about the tank crew or soldiers. No matter how cool the army has, if your commander is an idiot, you will still lose the tank, no matter how expensive and immortal it is. The T90 fight with 2 Bradleys confirms my words. The idiot commander lost an expensive tank.
@kthec1298
@kthec1298 9 ай бұрын
on paper every tank is somehow good, but we see in Ukraine that specs are just specs, every single NATO tank and Russian/Ukrainian tank stood in flames hit by some small drone
@hubertsteenbekkers1522
@hubertsteenbekkers1522 9 ай бұрын
99% of tanks wil not be destroit by tanks
@buzzmeanytime
@buzzmeanytime 9 ай бұрын
Germany
@TheBikeOnTheMoon
@TheBikeOnTheMoon 9 ай бұрын
In short: nobody knows.
@Kurikost_
@Kurikost_ 5 ай бұрын
not even a queston. Russian tank vs a modern western tank? Really?
@Lovi89
@Lovi89 9 ай бұрын
How many T-14s are there? Like 15? Rofl
@tordakozma9911
@tordakozma9911 6 ай бұрын
After watching LAZERPIG's deep analyst video on T14 this analyst deepth is nothing you literaly said 4th and 5th generation bullshit.
@RobertFoly
@RobertFoly 9 ай бұрын
How weak and insignificant are the NATO countries! The T14 instructions say made in Russia. In the instructions for any NATO tank, a list of manufacturers of any NATO tank contains a huge list of countries. Chassis from one country, turret from another, gun from a third, shells from a fourth... Tiny NATO against huge Russia 😂
@chief8559
@chief8559 8 ай бұрын
True?
@clivemcquire7686
@clivemcquire7686 9 ай бұрын
Have the Russians actually made more than a few demo T14’s 🤔
@WaldoTheWombat
@WaldoTheWombat 9 ай бұрын
8:05 what does that even mean?
@Diemerstein
@Diemerstein 12 күн бұрын
Let me boil this down. The T14 is pure garbage, it's a slapped together pile of trash with a healthy dose of propaganda, it actually doesn't even work. The KF51 on the other hand is put together with well known functioning components. The gun has been tested and is the most powerful gun on a MBT, what really make this tank stand out it's also armed anti tank drones that can loiter 60 minutes and range out to 50 miles to hunt down targets. Yeah nah, the T14 doesn't come close to the KF51.
@davidrickwood5924
@davidrickwood5924 9 ай бұрын
Why are there no T14 Armata wonder tanks in Ukraine????
T-14 Armata - Russia's Latest Tank
11:29
Military TV
Рет қаралды 1,1 МЛН
Как Я Брата ОБМАНУЛ (смешное видео, прикол, юмор, поржать)
00:59
Муж внезапно вернулся домой @Oscar_elteacher
00:43
История одного вокалиста
Рет қаралды 7 МЛН
The GTA tank was real...and it was STEALTH!
12:10
Found And Explained
Рет қаралды 140 М.
Dr Gabor Mate answers question about October 7th during conference
12:53
Middle East Eye
Рет қаралды 472 М.
Now I am scared: the New Oreshnik Missile Attack on Dnipro
24:59
Millennium 7 * HistoryTech
Рет қаралды 1,2 МЛН
Rheinmetall releases Panther KF51 Main Battle Tank
1:24
Rheinmetall – Der integrierte Technologiekonzern
Рет қаралды 3,9 МЛН
This German Tank Will Change EVERYTHING - Here is Why!
14:20
Beyond Military
Рет қаралды 875 М.
Why The T-14 Armata Tank Best Tank in the World - Top Tank in the World
11:02