Is the WSP-9 Any Good in Modern Warfare III? (Stats & Best Setups!)

[@TheWorkOver]

One of those “I can’t explain why it feels good to me but it does so I use it” guns

[@Grimino]

Definitely needs a buff, would like a good slower firing smg

[@JordTheeNord]

Needs a buff. Having both an open bolt delay AND a low ttk you would assume that it has a good recoil pattern but it doesn't. Maybe it's good in hardcore but you'd have to assume it's near the bottom of the barrel in standard modes.

[@TaylorMoore42]

In hardcore it’s an absolute monster. The open bolt delay is negligible when compared to the handling speed of other guns that have an infinite OHK range.

[@CrispyBananna]

It’s horrible in hardcore just because of the 55 ms delay.

[@T0anto]

Well, the 2 guys above me surely could discuss with each other lol

[@Billeh556]

I fry with the gun…doesn’t feel bad to me

[@desertjane]

Have u used it yet?. Man this gun is a monster in core, and u have the .45 rounds for the conversion, stop it. The range is disgusting on this gun since the recoil is so good. It's actually my fav smg for mw3. Somethings may look useless on paper, but in game can always be different cause u need to take in account how you play. Gun is to saucy😂😂

[@bobfranklin2572]

Remember when the mw2019 uzi had the BEST in class recoil and mobility, not amongst the worst? 🤨

[@RamboUnchained]

It was only great with that ammo conversion. Can’t think of what it was.

[@bobfranklin2572]

@@RamboUnchained .50AE I think?

[@alexmaurice4274]

@@bobfranklin257241 I believe

[@bobfranklin2572]

@alexmaurice4274 oh yeah! A 50 cal uzi would be pretty fun tho right? 🤣

[@ChaseChippy]

That was my main, I loved that shit

[@Azeazel.]

Can always depend on Xclusive for proper data based CoD reviews!

[@computerwsmallscreen2709]

I think that the slower the fire rate, and there are more time for the recoil to recenter for better overall recoil. The conversion kit just gets the higher recoil number corresponding to the original recoil setting, as the original version has higher fire rate and less time for recentering the recoil, while the converted version becomes more controllable because of the extra time for recentering from the slower fire rate.

[@GabrielDiaz93]

I think you’re right.

[@Evan35c]

I knew something felt off even when i stacked attachments for Sprint to Fire with this gun, it never occurred to me there would be an open bolt delay on an SMG! Always thought that was just for LMGs/ARs. Thanks for the info Ace

[@armedaspie8065]

Whether or not a weapon has an open bolt delay is based on whether the weapon is... well, an open-bolt weapon. Open-bolt operation is actually more common among SMGs than ARs, though we only have one open-bolt SMG at launch in MWIII.

[@jeremybrown9611]

Uzi Vert

[@mikeybeazley3]

Doesn’t look great on paper but I’ve had pretty good gameplay experience with it. I find it fun to use and easy to control with surprising accuracy at range. My k/d is slightly higher vs the other smg. I might have to try the stock you suggested as I’ve been using the factory classics stock.

[@emwols]

Yes I’ve been playing best with this smg and it just feels the best despite not having the best stats. I think it’s the accuracy that makes me love it

[@firekeeperenthusiast]

It’s honestly not bad at all I’m suprised to see ppl say it sucks

[@elg7365]

It sucks and depends on the lobbies

[@Prizma_of_Prymina]

@@EpicDexioI had the same philosophy with the Bizon/Minibak but unfortunately I don’t think there’s any saving the Minibak in MW3 without straight up buffs

[@Prizma_of_Prymina]

@@EpicDexioTHE XR-2 WAS AWESOME IN BO3

[@markmaish6087]

Ace is the absolute most informative.

[@harper0270]

the Broodmother was the 1st aftermarket part I got and the WSP-9 was the 1st gun I max level. This thing beams anyone from any range its insane. I think the range and accuracy of the Broodmother makes it an amazing weapon and being able to 4-tap someone across the map with an SMG feels great and ik people get salty about it LOL

[@bigfried5925]

Honestly I'm kind of terrible at choosing my attachments and these videos really help me while I'm on this Interstellar camo grind. Thanks man

[@Poletti_Andrea]

This was one of my favourites in MW19, i'm finishing up the gilded camos for the ARs and i think i'm gonna start SMGs with this one lol

[@jpmorgan6146]

I was waiting on an in detail review on this. You never disappoint

[@cuteasxtreme]

I use this for the nostalgia of my .41 hip/strafe build from 2019. Similarly my main gun is the M16 set up to look like the one I used in Battlefield 3.

[@macleod1592]

I have found that attachments with firing aim and aim stability are more important to me than recoil for some reason. Still I had a good time leveling this one up and still use it often.

[@DamBaker95]

This is the most accurate built of the Uzi i've seen. -Slow fire rate -Accurate -Open bolt trigger delay -Not as fast of a reload as you expect -Simple but very clear iron sights

[@MaxSmalls]

Yeah, I finished camos for this right after the super enjoyable WSP Swarm and was like pulling teeth. I thought it was just me but now this guide kinda explains why. Especially the stunned by tactical camos... basically just went into Meat 24/7 and sacrificed k/d to get it done.

[@majsr]

are you also disappointed with the "JAK bullseye"? When I saw an ironsight applicable to many of the full auto guns, I got really excited but then I got it and... i mean.. what? :D I don't think i've ever seen an ironsight so obstructive and unclear. Do you think there's a chance they'll re-work it? Because I'd really love more ironsight options, like in Vanguard, but this just really isn't it.

[@garborator]

It has to be the most useless attachments in the entire game lol, messed around with it on a bunch of guns and a majority of the time it doesn’t even work properly due to how aim sway works in this game. It may as well just be a rear sight with no front sight post

[@Leothecat2way]

Funny you should say that, @majsr. Because, I was in Shipmas and I killed an enemy who using the Longbow with the JAK Bullseye. So, I picked up and quickscoped 3 more enemies; and the most ironic part is that I never Quickscope.

[@nicktelegadas5941]

While the stats don’t suggest the best gun imo it feels good and fun to play with. I’m a little bias cuz it’s the gun I’ve drop my highest kill game and tied my highest kill streak with. If you can play with some movement where you’re jump or drop shooting straight up gun fights, playing off angels, pre firing some corners, & playing cover efficiently it can be very fun to play with. You just have to tune your play style a little differently because you will lose straight up face to face gun fights some/ most of the time.

[@cobaltcardsgaming5982]

Open Bolt delays have no business being in COD at ALL.

[@emwols]

Does the sprint to fire time include the open bolt delay or should I add 55ms to the 88ms and that is the actual experienced sprint to fire time?

[@TheXclusiveAce]

It doesn’t include the delay

[@emwols]

@@TheXclusiveAcethanks!

[@davesturchcgi]

Just got this gun levelled up and really like it.

[@NeoNyder]

I seem to do well with this gun, in 9mm. I'm not sure if its the slower ROF or what.

[@EdwardASUS]

This depends on how you use it. If you used to trigger shot before entering ADS, you can just ignore the open bolt delay. Sprintout time with open bolt delay are always less then ADS time. The best thing in this gun is that you don't need to and can not handle its recoil. Just focus on aiming the targets with high speed movement.

[@dajokaman759]

I wish the .45 conversion kit behaved more like the MW19 conversion kit. It just feels like a slight buff in comparison.

[@jesusramirez9181]

I use the battle pass setup and use tac stance and it’s amazing

[@AndrewCalvillo-q8l]

Ace big fan of your videos, one constructive criticism I have though is when you show the range / ttk values of all the weapons in comparison I think it would be beneficial to have an Asterix or parenthesis to include the open bolt delay ttk

[@xpress6966]

YOU GOTTA DO THE TAQ ERADICATOR NEXT! PLEASE!

[@blackomega34]

S tier in Warzone IMO because you never lose control of the gun during long sprays. The other guns jump around left and right too much, with competitive TTK and ammo efficient.

[@scarletcroc3821]

I know you said that you have a preference for showing the TTK valued, but I think it would be more useful the other way around. The reason for that is that you are much more likely to have multiple single engagements, rather than ones where you can just keep holding the trigger. It's of course your decision in the end, but I think there will be many more situations where the TTK is between 355 and 455 rather than 300 and 400

[@TheXclusiveAce]

I dislike the idea of mashing stats together like this since it doesn't paint the whole picture. It's much better, in my eyes, to keep them separate but display them together so people can see exactly what's going on with it.

[@scarletcroc3821]

@@TheXclusiveAce that’s completely fair

[@Roger_Smith]

I personally have had alot of success with this gun just because of low the recoil is

[@ScenOne]

there's a way to force equip the reckless long barrel with the broodmother kit, ill just say that

[@rocketadmincy6544]

I was trying to figure out why it felt like whatever I use this gun I’ve would feel like I started shooting at somebody just to die I didn’t know about the open bolt thing

[@bigph1l]

Honestly, I really enjoyed this gun on the camo grind. That damage at range was great once I figured out the right combo of attachments.

[@blaze376192]

I was wondering why the fire rate felt weird. That delay is a very interesting choice to put on the gun

[@jayquickscope4446]

It's what a real uzi has an open bolt the gun was made in the 1940s

[@blaze376192]

@@jayquickscope4446 ohhh gotchu gotchu. They should make the gun better then

[@tonygaetano3211]

great for zombie easter eggs / boss fights

[@Swatkiller7]

It’s easily one of the most quiet suppressed, which in its own right is powerful

[@ralts6464]

I got some long range kills like 40m with the broodmother build lol

[@Rally-Inc]

Honestly love this gun in hardcore. I can definitely agree that it’s subpar in core though.

[@Honeneko.]

How do you feel about the Jak Bullseye reward? I think it's okay as an alternative to Irons on some guns.

[@belial7428]

It’s definitely a better iron than most imo, but not worth the attachment slot. If you were planning on using irons use the slot for something else, and if you wanted a sight just use the mk3 reflector, I have no idea why you would want anything else

[@Honeneko.]

@@belial7428 This exactly. I like the attachment but there are no benefits over just adding on one of the vast majority of Red Dot sights. That said, I haven't checked if this can be used on sniper rifles. I just slapped it on the Taq Eradicator after unlocking it's optic slot. That's the gun I'm working on right now.

[@belial7428]

@@Honeneko. with the eradicator I’d say a tax stance build is really fun

[@Zwste]

I miss the mw2019 uzi:(

[@BR4JK21]

This weapon is bad on paper but it feels very nice to use

[@gearheadjones]

Definitely an underrated gun

[@williamcrosby1061]

The bolt delay really holds this gun back from being top tier. That being said there are quite a few variations of builds now that turn it into a laser it is possible to almost completely negate the initial recoil. Its better than the MCW for accuracy and has better handling at the same time. Ive been messing around with builds between the firing range and "true game data" its competitive at close range but is actually quite dominant at mid to long range with a few different variations. If you want to sacrifice long range accuracy (and some ability to purge head glitchers)it could probably benefit from a good mobility attachment or 2 to compensate or the bolt delay and still be strong mid range.

[@kgcrew1767]

Hey Xclusive Ace. Could you by any chance do a review on the horizontal and vertical custom sensitive setting? I have been hearing if I change my custom sens from default 1.20 to 1.00 my look sens will feel more like older cod games. Can you see if this is true or just some sort of placebo effect?

[@TheXclusiveAce]

That’s purely placebo

[@alexmaurice4274]

⁠@@TheXclusiveAce I didn’t know about this at all- we’re old cods set at 1.0 instead of 1.2?

[@TheXclusiveAce]

@alexmaurice4274 This setting didn't exist in older CoDs so it's just a new feature that can potentially give you a different feel but this setting ONLY applies when its enabled so the moment you switch back to the regular sensitivity setting, this advanced setting does nothing at all.

[@Scroolewse]

Is there anything this gun does over other SMGs? It seems like a jack of no trades

[@alexmaurice4274]

Hey ace can you do one big video breaking down, gun kick, horizontal and vertical, and the firing aiming stability, and visual recoil. I generally like a bunch of separate stats, but this game seems so complicated with the recoil stats especially the firing stability/gun kick.

[@TheXclusiveAce]

Here's one for Vertical, Horizontal and Gun Kick: kzbin.info/www/bejne/n5One4SCf8ubZq8 Here's one for Firing Aim Stability: kzbin.info/www/bejne/qn_Im3hnf8iWkNk

[@alexmaurice4274]

Either cut the open bolt delay in like half and buff the recoil, or imo a like 13 meter upper chest shots ttk wouldn’t be really overpowered either

[@mash2481]

Shipment is back! Yay!

[@Hjortur95]

good in hardcore. some of the ARs have worse mobility and still don't land 1 shot kills after 20 or 40 meters.

[@TheSpawnTrapper]

Why is there an open bolt delay on an SMG?

[@Leothecat2way]

It's still good. I mean, it's miles better than the AMR9 and Striker 9.

[@marcelluscunningham8272]

Conversion kit slaps

[@phamson9435]

This thing has actually been nerfed since the season 1 reloaded update for absolutely no reason, it now takes 6 shots to kill at longer range rather than 5 shots at its minimum damage. So its dogpoo now

[@billucf96]

No SMG should ever have an open bolt delay.

[@bigsamiabs8416]

Oo a gun that actually has recoil in MW3 unlike most of the samey feeling no recoil guns of this game? I may have to use this gun a lot if I grab it for 30% off.

[@britneyclears641]

Can you make a fastest aim down sight strafe build smg

[@L0opZz_z]

Uzi back in the game

[@Phlfwlr]

Patiently waiting for the marksman rifles

[@maserati4000]

i still think the smgs need a buff across the board. even at close range i dont think they do enough damage and with the higher health, taking gunfights with multiple people close range is almost a suicide mission

[@Helltee]

When leveling this weapon without reading anything about it i had no clue about the first bullet delay. I was losing my mind!! I just thought something was wrong on my end.. I reset my pc, my internet/router, used both controller + MNK and eventually just came to the conclusion that over night everyone had the reflex's of a god and I'm just slow and cant get the first shot off. 29 levels later and now i just find out that there is a delay... JFC 😂😂😂😂

[@Hutchyy]

So is it better or worse with the broodmother kit?

[@IPingusx]

you forgot to mention the 3 shot with 2 headshots TTK with the base weapon

[@thomaswawrzyniak118]

Luckly with 600 rounds/minute, thats easy to calculate 200ms not including open bolt delay

[@itzmyb4ckhurtz]

If you play hard-core mode, I highly suggest this gun...in hard-core it's litterally gods gun

[@SirSkateAlot900]

There are other guns that can 1 shot kill with a better fire rate, better ads speed, less recoil, and no open bolt delay. There’s truly no reason to use this in hardcore unless you’re leveling it for challenges

[@WokeFatti]

This gun needs a quirk to be viable. As of now its the 2nd worst smg, behind only the striker 9 which was destroyed by nerfs. It needs something that sets it apart. Its handling and mobility is slow, its ttk is slow, and its fire rate is slow which also makes it unforgiving. And its recoil isn’t friendly either. Something needs to change for this gun to not be the worst of the WSP guns

[@bodkin7841]

Shluld be a 3 shot kill with 1 headshot instead of 2 and itd be a lot better, and the 45 version can 2 tap with both headshots at close range

[@chrismorgan9291]

Interesting how the testing came up this way, cause I’ve only experienced good things when using it. Definitely feels better than it looks on paper

[@Whateverhandleisavailable]

Why the bolt delay?

[@Darkhalo314]

Because they gun is an open bolt design

[@josiasdiaz8859]

Hey can anyone help me with a fix to the camo progression? I got all the ARs gold but the game still says 5/6 completed. I can’t progress them to the next one: platinum.

[@emwols]

I haven’t experienced this issue, I have interstellar. I would say double check but I assumed you did that multiple times

[@josiasdiaz8859]

@@emwols Thanks for the reply but yeah I’ve checked multiple times and restarted the game but nothing. It’s really annoying. I want to unlock interstellar, it looks gorgeous.

[@goldenalex22]

I didn’t mind the gun at all. I didn’t know there even was an ‘open bolt delay’, and plus, it really felt like the MW 2019 Uzi, just to recall being a little bit more then that one. But overall, I enjoyed it

[@ii-tadertot-ii]

I’m personally partial to it because I dropped my only nuke in Mw3 with it so that’s the only reason I love it!!

[@Ironcoremagma]

The balancing and stats in this game are quite odd, how would a .45 conversion kit increase your bullet velocity? It should be doing the opposite.

[@Honeneko.]

Not odd. The balancing is done for an arcade styled FPS rather than realism. Other trade-offs are implemented towards this goal. They want it to "feel good". Bullet velocity was probably increased to balance with the lower RoF and handling stats.

[@Ironcoremagma]

@@Honeneko. Feels like things have gone downhill since MW19, when it was more focused around realism. They've proven things can be balanced around realism without affecting arcadeyness. Not sure why they went backwards. That's not to say that some elements were done wrong in MW2 e.g. no reload cancelling.

[@asdfghjkl2261]

@@IroncoremagmaCOD has always been a game where your character can live through multiple bullets, sometimes multiple shots to the head, but dies to a single knife slash. I would recommend other games if you like realism.

[@Ironcoremagma]

​@@asdfghjkl2261I totally agree with you, it's obviously not going to be 100% realistic. I just wish they would go back to MW19's level of realism, and then keep the arcadey mechanics. Why not have the best of both worlds?

[@asdfghjkl2261]

@@Ironcoremagma I'd be all for a COD game that has the production values and gunplay of MW19 that retains COD staples like 3 lane maps, balanced footstep audio, traditional minimap, etc. It just seems like whenever realism enters the picture for the devs, it usually displaces a lot of the arcadeyness.

[@anubis4032]

Best smg imo

[@Slurpified]

Looking forward to more lines of sight videos. This community is braindead for not watching those

[@dlikeayu]

Meta guns should catalyze between mouse/controller player, some are very different for control recoil.

[@epicgamerzfail4575]

So lemme get this straight: this gun does ok damage, slow rate of fire, okish range, bad handling, bad recoil, and an open bolt delay. Sh what are you thinking?!?!?!

[@seann2769]

I love this thing in hardcore.

[@adripos]

Once again we have another gun with bad stats but guys this gun is a MONSTER if you build it right! It just feels good

[@drshishkebab]

is this the wsp swarm or like a different variant? (i don’t play MP just warzone). the wsp swarm is the most OP gun i’ve seen in a while in warzone, literally shreds.

[@TheXclusiveAce]

The swarm is a completely different gun and it behaves nothing like the WSP-9

[@johnsmiles715]

I have not seeing this anywhere but ASSASIN vest should have FIELD upgrade and no lethal and tactical, Cuz i want to go on long streak with this and I will need munitions box.@@TheXclusiveAce

[@dynamicflashy]

Sledgehammer doesn't know how to balance weapons. This weapon was well-balanced in MW19.

[@sIayerz]

I wish this gun was better, it needs that open bolt delay completely removed to make it viable.

[@basec1378]

Wonder if a sprint-to-kill time would be helpful

[@ejro3063]

You should be comparing this with ARs

[@Spikezillian_]

As the guy who had an account back in the og MW2/BO1 days as "OnlyUseMeUzi" -- I demand we BUFF this bad boy! Give me the best SMG in the game! Uzi deserves love its been cucked too many times!

[@DannyA16]

It looks terrible on paper but for some reason I love this gun and I have most success with it 🤣

[@jeremiahtaylor1817]

It’s the consistency of the gun that makes it feel like butter at times

[@DannyA16]

@@jeremiahtaylor1817 yes it’s satisfying to use

[@onlyweatherlol93]

This weapon always manages to piss me off since MW2019. I would see pure sickos running around with the ammo conversion and just ripping opponents apart, yet whenever I used it, I couldn't get to grips with the painfully slow rate of fire. It just felt inconsistent... I'd much rather use the Swarm than the WSP-9 in MW3, maybe I come across like a right noob.... 🤣🤣🤣 Then again, I always used the UMP in MW3 2011 rather than the MP7 and PP90M1. It suited me more as I challenged longer ranges better with it after the buff

[@CosmicLunaa]

It’s wild that he did the Bas-P but not the Sidewinder. Legit proof that the gun is just poo poo stinky.

[@officialdoughbae675]

All sub machine guns need a better buff

[@99bogatyrs99]

That's it! I have had it with this game. COD MW3 is a waste of my time and effort! I have been gaming since the beginning and this is, without a doubt my worst experience. First, there is no balance at all. Yesterday every game except one was a complete animation of the losers (I was on both sides). When you have scores like 200 to 63 and worse time after time it is simply no fun, and I only play for the enjoyment. When I am grinding out a gun, I normally take it to the "practice" arena and test it out especially if there are different builds and I like to test them all. Can't do that anymore - unless I am doing something incorrectly? The only options are set guns and that is it. What is with these people, do they not understand anything about their "target audience". I spent my whole career in marketing and can tell you if one of my managers was too out of touch with his/her "customers" he/she would be sitting out at the curb looking in his lunch box wondering what went wrong and why he/she didn't have a job. The developers have totally lost it with this game which should have been released as an add-on, not a complete game. Well with that said, it is my humble opinion. I am so sorry it has come to this!

[@insulinresistance1267]

Please help!!! 🥺 affect 25 enemies with the stormender EMP challenge is not working 🤷🏼‍♂️ can anybody help me with this.

[@lewishamiltoff]

The fire rate is way too slow

[@NelderGuitar]

Slow TTk, open bolt delay, slow ads, slow movement…why does this exist again?

[@diligaf1000]

Open bolt delay. Next.....

[@Nathan254]

Notification squad

[@seann2769]

We out here

[@patricbromii1178]

WSP-9 is based on the Uzi

[@bobfranklin2572]

*WHY* must we still have open-bolt delays on guns for God's sake... just make it audio only JFC.

[@TheXclusiveAce]

I think it provides an interesting method of balancing guns but there should be other benefits that offset the downside that comes with an open bolt delay so there's a bit of give and take and we don't really see that with the WSP-9.

[@bobfranklin2572]

@@TheXclusiveAce if honestly much rather them just balance the gun in more.. normal way, rather than randomly adding a pause and massive ttk nerf

[@alexmaurice4274]

I kinda agree I think the better way would be no open bolt delay for cod guns at least , that being said I find it very cool and interesting and feel their ttks, sprint out times, ads times should be increased to offset the ttk nerf of the open bolt. I think the open bolt design is super cool from a gun guy perspective, but that being said, I actively avoid most of the open bolt guns in the game because it just “feels” worse to use because of the delay.

[@bobfranklin2572]

@alexmaurice4274 agreed. I think you made a great point about the subjective feel. They should keep it for immersion, uniqueness etc. A 50+ ms slower time to even begin shooting especially for an SMG. The M91 in mw2019 had a 120+ms delay, which was insane because it would've been a top-tier lmg otherwise. They should lean into it if they insist on keeping it. List it in the gun's description/advanced stats and balance accordingly. Could be interesting if done right.

[@davitdavid7165]

The ump45 is just better than the uzi. Why did they do thsi to this gun?

[@nickniehaus1763]

Good in hardcore

[@nubmyr]

This is literally the only auto weapon I can kill with lol.

[@Comeback180]

Being limited to 22 rounds is too much.of a downside, let me use a larger magazine.