Is there a BARITONE CURSE?

[@birdnerd730]

As a low baritone, I love that my voice kinda starts in the middle and I can work in both directions, not even counting learning different vocal techniques. Need a high note? Boom, falsetto. Need a low note? Subharmonics, baby! Don’t be discouraged because of where your voice naturally rests. You can work at it and make it what you want.

[@pinesyeet]

Same. Mid baritone, falsetto to around C6, subharmonics to C1. Love singing along to acapella songs, hitting all the notes from everyone except the highest soprano notes. It's great!

[@saplingdatree4111]

Not sure what my voice type is, but it's probably either a baritone or bass, not sure though because I have a nearly 8 octave range from e0(or lower, nothing registers the note and obviously I can't hear it past e0 which is ~20.6hz) via subharmonics, up to e8 or a f/g8 on a really good day, (this is the whole point of my reply) I totally get the feeling where it's really nice to be able to go up relatively easily, you need a *really* high note? Cha-ching, whistle register.

[@saplingdatree4111]

@@pinesyeet yeah that's how I got into singing actually

[@birdnerd730]

@@saplingdatree4111 8 octaves, nice! While voice part is more about where you are most comfortable, it sounds like you have a full bass range, possibly even oktavist level stuff. That’s super cool!

[@Margen67]

Owls need HUGS

[@merjaymermanph]

Im a Baritone…..and i love the midrange of it. The falsetto of baritones are strong

[@hothatchpa]

Thank you, I agree.

[@vitormrmr]

Midrange isn't special to hear or enjoy. High and low notes are better

[@nightmare4eVerr1]

@@vitormrmr false. Issue is you have absolutely no baritones in Contemporary music that use their midrange. Even popular baritones are always singing like a tenor or pushing their top notes. The midrange is never fully utilized. Then there are untrained tenors/low tenors that strain alot and people think thats what a baritone sounds like. So i understand where your coming from. The modern baritone is simply a tenor mimicker at best, so id prefer hearing a true tenor. We need real baritones singing LIKE a baritone in contemporary music to even appreciate that mid range

[@merjaymermanph]

@@vitormrmr whatever

[@vitormrmr]

@@nightmare4eVerr1 Baritone is a extinct voice fach. Why baritones train to become a tenor or bass? Because the midrange (C3-B3) is soporific and is not entretaining, neither interesting.

[@JSimmerlovesSims]

I'm a bass baritone and I've been practicing higher songs and I can sing them with a little bit more ease than I used to. It just comes from practice but your voice will smooth out and become a LOT more flexible in the future.

[@hellohello-tf9vc]

yes.....axl rose is also a bass barione being able to belt up in the 5th octave

[@uvanwithanage8907]

How long will it take? 😬

[@shelbyherring92]

@@uvanwithanage8907 Depends. All depends how you rest between sessions, how hydrated you are, how frequently you practice... etc. It's all about your fundamentals and how well you take care of yourself. Some people, it takes as little as a few months of training and practice. Others, it can take years. The biggest thing is, you shouldn't worry about how long it'll take. Practice with a purpose or goal in mind and you'll get there.

[@rodneywashington2017]

You've got that Barry White, Josh Turner, and Brad Wilson range. Just like a Bass Saxophone 🎷 and Bass Tuba.

[@sapitron]

Im a bass baritone and can not pass from D4 to E4, it's very painful and sounds horrible. any recommendations?

[@AudaciousDani]

As a bass who has had classical and contemporary training, I can definitely there is some truth to this...to an extent. We have to agree that, for a true bass, at some point the high end will end up being one of two things, yelling or marked. My natural, speaking, chest voice sits around E2-A2, and extends to about an Eb4-G4 after a good warm up. After that, I HAVE to start pulling head down and mixing or it simply comes off as shouting. We say that tenors have it easier because their natural chest sits up in that G3-C4 range naturally, so it easier to extend upward before having to mix or flip. Is it impossible for us basses? Not at all. Is is miles easier for you tenors? Absolutely.

[@miguellaruku2725]

How can you be a bass and extend up to G4 in chest voice, that's shenanigans. Where is your passagio? Are you going to tell me it's at F4-F#4 liek a tenor? I don't think that's healthy. Shouldn't you be like start mixing way before that so it all sounds as one connected voice. Just a few thoughts.

[@AudaciousDani]

@@miguellaruku2725 Ahhh, but are we speaking classically or contemporarily? Contemporary training throws every term and rule one learns in the classical setting right into the garbage and recycles them with new meaning. That is why I disclaimed it previously. My first “passage” or break is around E3, so, above that would be “middle” or “mixed” voice, classically speaking. But, in contemporary music, “belting” is taking the notes above that first passage and singing them in chest. “Mixed” voice, from what I have been taught, is taking the top of where you can comfortably “belt” and extending it further with head voice...not simply the notes after your first passage.

[@miguellaruku2725]

​@@AudaciousDani All contemporary bro...just the passagio stuff I find it useful to see where a voice stands relative to others. ...But but theres no way your first passagio is at E3. Damn that's amazing and crazy super rare lol, your second passagio is then at G#3...that's gotta be wrong. If you mean your "second passagio" where you flip to falsetto naturally is at E4...then that's just a high baritone so belting to a G4 sounds feasible but still painful . I was curious about that belting part cuz I have throat issues (from acid reflux) and I'm limited in how I can sing so mixed voice is my savior but belting to a G4 for a bass assuming you are not a baritone isn't that like destroying your voice even if your healthy...it just sounds super painful and scary. I never researched belting that much cuz I dont think I should do it.

[@AudaciousDani]

@@miguellaruku2725 My voice is set the way it is because I have the classical foundation. Classical repertoire for the bass voice is set in the C2-F4 range, all sang in full voice. So, it is easier for me to just adjust the airflow and timbre so it comes out as a belt.

[@miguellaruku2725]

​@@AudaciousDani I see but a passagio at E4 is definitely not a true bass.Though your voice is even more gifted cuz you seem to have an easy time hitting super low notes as well. I have the same passagio and can't go that low...speaking voice at Bb2-A2 ...I was told I'm a lyric baritone. Not that it matters cuz it still sucks not to be a tenor. I agree with you this is kind of a curse even if you work on singing those high notes cuz you can't really perform and perform for hours AND you have to work super hard to even get there.

[@ricochetsixtyten]

No, theres only the baritone gift, the gift of being able to hit those loooow beautiful notes.

[@Michael-le5ph]

Well said. People want to accuse baritones of being lazy tenors. WHY MUST WE ALL BE A Tenor? Let a tenor try the lower warm notes and see what happens-they sound like they're choking. The baritones have a gift so they should use it.

[@freonblast8125]

Yeah nobody cares about the low notes in pop

[@aayushmanawasthi9195]

I am a baritone and can easily sing in high tenor range after spending some time on training to do so . The baritone is the best thing you can be as the bass and heaviness in your voice on those high notes simply can't be replicated by a tenor.

[@donaldberton5121]

sounds like an alto

[@johndeeregreen4592]

@@donaldberton5121, no such male classification.

[@user-qp5xh9ky4t]

I'm so glad you mentioned the debate around your voice. Whenever I watch voice classification videos or read articles on voice that include Harry Styles, the comments are always full with debate over him being a baritone or tenor. I do think he's a high baritone because he's speaking voice is very low and I've noticed other men often drop their voice when they want to imitate him. Most men are baritones so I think a lot of baritones in the industry are categorized as tenors just because of the style of music they sing.

[@mSb1016]

Easily he's a High Baritone the thing is he's into a lot of tension when he sings. Luckily for him it turns out pretty well when singing more to his right side.

[@nightmare4eVerr1]

Low range means nothing. My 2 cousins are both lyric tenors. They both can go as low and effortlessly to F2 such that youd think they are baritones. The difference comes that they dont need to raise volume/shout/cry/modify vowels below E4 atleast. They can literally speak breathily with a CHESTY tone high upto A4 which is a sheer impossible task for any lower voice. They can however also fake vowel modifications earlier to imitate lower singers. And even yell or strain as much as they want in their lower range to imitate baritonal qualities. The only noticeable difference is that they lack volume overall im range, a low baritone like myself can easily project my voice twice as loud as they can. Their voices begin to match my power around A4 onwards. But u need o be in persom to notice that.microphone pop.singers dont have tp worry about volume and baritones lose even that advantage

[@sandy_carpetsthesecond5013]

@@nightmare4eVerr1 I mena, Low notes can mean something. Trained basses can go low into the first octave which is where the pulse register lays, Baritones can go mid-first octave and peak into the fifth which allows for some pretty distinct textures and tones. Tenors are only capable of only really dipping into the first octave though at max training, and even though they can go high, they lack the level of natural energy that lower voices have. I'm a light lyric baritone myself, and though I'm a light lyric with a naturally airy voice *and* vocal damage, I still find that my voice has quite a lot more texture and tone than tenors. Don't let that versatility go to waste- Bounce throughout your range, Mess around with your tone and dynamics. That's what I did, and now I'd honestly say I'm fairly decent and I'm capable of keeping people's attention on me even when I'm not singing high. Basically, Just listen to John Legend. You wouldn't notice if you weren't paying attention, but he uses quite a few different vocal textures in his voice which is why his voice sounds so rich.

[@drlt9241]

I'm a light baritone and I can easily hit high tenor notes! It's all about training and expanding your range. There is no baritone curse!

[@saghyszabi]

I'm a dramatic baritone and I can hit high mezzosoprano notes (my highest is a5) and I can hit low notes like bass singers (my lowest is a0 with subharmonics but without it my lowest is f1)

[@awonkemakinana2877]

Good

[@swastiknandy2388]

@DR LT there is a lot of difference between just hitting and sustaining with proper classical technique...

[@nightmare4eVerr1]

If ur a baritone 'hitting' tenor notes. Either your an untrained tenor who THINKS hes a baritone or your using head mix instead of a chest mix that a true tenor does. Just because i can sing a barry white song doesnt mean im a bass, similarly screeching out tenor notes doesnt mean im a tenor. Theres no such thing as a baritone singing tenor, they will always sound forced

[@gdmya]

You ain't a baritone at this point, I would describe you as a baritenor rather, it's quite magical honestly. Take Freddie Mercury for example his voice would naturally fall as a baritone yet he was able to hit notes a Soprano can.

[@TheJazzyVaudevillian]

Adam, I respectfully disagree with the foundation of your comments. What I mean by "foundation" is seemingly, you are saying that baritones either can't sing or shouldn't sing currently popular music because that music includes musical notes that are higher than notes that a baritone is capable of singing. This perception is absurd because when a song is either too high or too low for a particular professional singer to sing, the key is changed to fit that singer's voice. Professional singers do not change the basic natural sound and register of their voice to suit the musical register of the notes involved in the song. The register of the notes involved in the song are changed by changing the key to fit the natural sound of the singers voice and natural register. Yes, some singers will sing in Falsetto at times for an effect but mostly keys are adjusted to suit the singer's voice. The singer's voice is not "adjusted" to suit the original key in which the song is written.

[@NathanRech]

I'm a mid/high baritone and it's great for me, I can sing the high notes with my head voice and it sounds intense and emotional but I can also sing the lower notes with intensity and stability.

[@dawnhutchins11]

I have been trained and am labeled a first alto. But I can sing in the Adele deep voice style and then switch it up and hit lower soprano notes. However, you are correct. My best quality and longest notes will be in my middle range. Around a first alto. I do believe that it is possible to stretch out the chords and with technique, hit more of a range. This does not belittle all the voice types. Especially for an ensemble like setting. Take Voctave. Not all the ladies in the group are Kate Lott types (not many ladies are anywhere, lol). I’d take a look at their “Princess Medley” to get a feel for female voice types. The lowest alto cannot hit Kate’s notes. That doesn’t detract from her voice beauty. Spice is the variety of life! Also, for baritone curse: probably one of the most popular baritones is Josh Groban. That’s where he likes to sit. He can hit tenor range, like you say, but sacrificing some of the strength and breath control. He knows his voice and it amply astounds us all.

[@phyllisclark4983]

This is what Ive been saying all along! Im a contemporary worship leaders and my sons are baritones and i feel like all the christian singers are tenors!

[@Michael-le5ph]

because that is what the music industry wants. it used to be baritones that were popular in the 30s through the early 70s and now it's reversed. It's just a trend. Just be true to your own voice, put songs in good keys for you and let that baritone warmth come through. It gets a lot of attention, just ask Josh Groban. People go to his concerts just to hear that rich deep sound, it sell lots of albums.

[@benjimartinnc]

Thanks so much for sharing this video. I certainly benefited from it because I've had people tell me I was a baritone from my speaking voice or I was a tenor for the way I hit high notes. I consider myself a second tenor because even though I sing mostly in the tenor range, I can also sing baritone and alto/countertenor. An old friend, who's a music teacher, told me a long time ago that singing was a personal thing because it was how you expressed yourself.

[@MultiKamil97]

I thought I'm cursed because of being a baritone, the darker and heavier one but when I've learnt how to use different registers of my voice I managed to mix my voice to the point I'm able to go over C5. Sure, It's not really strong, it's rather thick and I sound a bit like a child then (it's because I have to lighten my voice very much) but being aware that I can sing that high is something to be proud of even when most of the time I usually stick to my most comfortable range which is G2-C4.

[@junlucas69]

I can't even sing with falsetto anymore. 😿

[@phewphew1720]

same w/u,i am a heavier baritone..but i still dont know how my voice sounds like when i use my mix,head..i know what is falsetto,so idk what type of voice i use but i can reach E6..

[@MultiKamil97]

@@phewphew1720 When you use your mix your voice loses its heaviness. It's like when you sing with chest voice, but it's a little lighter and brighter tone. It's a mix of head and chest voice so it's kinda hard to explain how it works. When you sing with your chest, you have to focus on getting your voice that lighter to the point where you don't feel any heaviness and strain.

[@HumbleTrader001]

@@junlucas69 My falsetto can't go anywhere nearly as high as it used to. I used to get to an E5 or F5 if warmed up, but now I have trouble with a C5.

[@sandy_carpetsthesecond5013]

@@junlucas69 Crack your voice, Your falsetto is what your voice cracks to at the top.

[@DanSmith142]

Why is society obssed with high notes? Imo baritones are bleessed and so are dramatic tenors. Think F Sinatra, Placido Domingo or in country music Chris Young. Its like melted chocolate. Thick and strong. Powefull. I like your videos very much.

[@hellohello-tf9vc]

ummm becasue they are more intriguing?.........u can hav opinion but the way u put it seems like fact....i like low notes.....am a baritone....but id prefer highnotes.....especially belting.....cause i cant belt anything higher than an A4.......and its cool to see singers belting those notes...so yeah....here we go

[@DanSmith142]

@@hellohello-tf9vc hello hello to you. In my defense i did say "imo", read: in my opinion. So there you go

[@hellohello-tf9vc]

@@DanSmith142 but ur comment on society being obsessed with highnotes seems a bit of personal attack....most of the songs today are set in the tenor range.......so its obvious that people would love highnotes

[@vitormrmr]

Placido Domingo is a undeveloped lyric tenor

[@vitormrmr]

Baritone can't sing low or high enough to be credible. Is a curse

[@beamerb8152]

Yes. You can extend your range to whatever you are patient for. I am a bass/baritone and my audible range is E1-E7. I am currently practicing and strengthening the whistle register. Definitely take it easy when trying the whistle register for the first. I blew out almost an entire octave that I had already mastered (G5-D6) doing it incorrectly. Now I have to rebuild it. But patience and correct technique is key.

[@DLo-nw8sp]

actually, the voice classification is just a label, to tell you what range you are comfortable in. I mean, for tenors, it is way easier to sing high than baritones and basses. But for low notes, it's the contrary. I think that the basses and baritones can sing the tenor range with training as well. But it will sound deeper and not with some of the nasal voices tenors have. As a baritone myself, i am not trained but i have known baritones that can sing high, eg Scott hoying from PTX and some basses that can sing high as well, eg Geoff and Tim. They all can thin out their voices so well as well But i think there is no need to really train yourself into the tenor range, as us baritones really can shine as bright as well as other singers, we can find songs that is in our comfort range and express it our own way as well

[@christianhenry4173]

Geoff and tim are baritone not basses. Even for a trained bass or octaves like eric holloway he mostly relies on falsetto dealing with the tenor range. While it sounds pleasing to the ears its not a bass singers true range.

[@johndeeregreen4592]

@@christianhenry4173, wrong, Geoff and Tim are low basses and not even basses. No baritone on the planet can hit an F#1 in chest voice, which both can. Any bass that can hit C2 in full chest voice is a basso profondo, something both Geoff and Tim can do. In reality, both Tim and Geoff have lower chest voices than Avi Kaplan, who is a trained, operatic basso profondo.

[@johndeeregreen4592]

@@christianhenry4173, nah, I haven't been a bass singer (with a 6 octave range), voiceover artist, vocal coach, music teacher, and play 12 different instruments over the past 40 years... oh, wait, yeah, I actually have. You are so naïve if you don't get Geoff's comment was sarcasm. You don't decide to have a bass range, lmao. You can learn to sing higher, to a degreel however, your vocal cords limit your lowest chest note. Geoff's lowest chest note is, indeed an F#1. Even hitting a strong chest note of C2 makes someone a low bass. kzbin.info/www/bejne/fmPIqYOei8qEm9U

[@johndeeregreen4592]

@@christianhenry4173, and I bet Marcello Bass doesn't know the difference, either, right? kzbin.info/www/bejne/rJXKo4tojZ6Eibs

[@johndeeregreen4592]

@@christianhenry4173, if you want to be a singer, you better really educate yourself more on vocal classifications. Just the fact you can project a decent Eb2, I see you as a full bass and not a bass-baritone.

[@Neellohit]

I’m a tenor and I love baritones! I envy the range that baritones have, often more than us tenors.

[@MiketheNerdRanger]

I guess the grass is always greener; a lot of baritones would love a tenor voice.

[@toara]

Am I the only tenor who wants a female voice 😂

[@brycemc7179]

I’m a low Baritone. Almost Bass. I’ve figured out that country music is the most comfortable for me to sing for people because most of the songs suit that vocal range. And I love country music 😌

[@SingwithCinderella]

I agree! voice types are just an old fashioned to categorize the voice....just a "label"

[@lakmaleeperera8622]

Liam is Baritone Zayn is Tenor

[@donnixofficial6306]

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[@firethroughtheskies2648]

Both are tenors. Liam just know how to sing his lower extension, but his tessitura is actually high (D3-E4/F4, which is that of a tenor in general).

[@MadMusician]

You mentioned Tim Foster as a bass example. He may be giving a bass effect, but that doesn't mean he's a bass. As far as I can tell, he's only reaching those low with sub-harmonics. Without that sub-harmonics register, he probably would not be able to go so low so comfortably. So in essence, I'm saying it sounds like he's giving off much more of a bass effect rather than him being an actual bass himself.

[@justchris3350]

He doesnt use subharmonics its chest fry

[@charliecampbell6851]

He frys, but yes. Very heavy bass boosting, definitely a low baritone.

[@chunkycheese5854]

He’s a bass-baritone, which basically means he can sing in the bass range and the baritone range at the same time so yeeh

[@MadMusician]

I'm starting to become more aware of that method. Sorry if I seemed to be dismissing anything.

[@christianhenry4173]

@@chunkycheese5854 hes a baritone if you listen to his solo work most of his work is relied on the baritone tenor range. Avi Kaplan is a bass baritone but he's getting lower in his solo work.

[@hamedgania2836]

Thank you for all your lessons! ❤️

[@caninbar]

A CM singer has a microphone and can use falsetto. Stamina or "tessitura" is the key. You can't force nature, you can only make the most out of what you've got.

[@StudeSteve62]

I'm not a "real" singer, but do enjoy it, can sing passably, am a baritone, and have a lot of fun doing something a bit odd that nevertheless works for me...singing soprano stuff 8vb. Two of my favourite songs to sing are Evanescence' "My Immortal" and the Celine Dion cover of Jim Steinman's "It's All Coming Back To Me Now"...both in the original key but an octave down. It's a hoot. The Evanescence one comes off sounding like the prettiest Creed song Creed never recorded...

[@aaronlarsen7447]

I'm a lower baritone. It's warmth in the mic. Rich and full and open . The qualities you want in good gear, and subtle overtone, like and old acoustic guitar. It's a different animal that is hard to learn to get the best out of. It's helped my knowledge, and transposing and songwriting. I like to write down the singers I can emulate in various styles. It takes guess work out and familiarize me with my own range. Helps me learn to play better in the keys I'm going to use.I don't work with people keep trying to get me singing in ranges that hurt. It just blows out your voice. Some people are just intuitive good singers and modern techniques mimic intuitive techniques that are the same as the classical techniques, but more and less subtle, depending on the style. Don't make extending your range a primary focus know your range and the best keys and chord progressions to bring it out. I'm teaching myself everything in terms of numbers, so far. Chords, progressions, scales, and study guitar and songwriting. 54 yrs old been singing the whole time. Nobody told me to or taught me how. I still study and it helps, but conventional training is not everything. Tell it to Stevie Nicks. Notice how compelling her voice is as a lower range female as well. She was born that way.

[@RichardM1366]

I remember trying out for the role of Escamillo. Well they gave me the role also they handed me a broom to sweep the stage!

[@drkmgic]

I'm a high baritone and I'm in tenor 1 in my choir right now and omg it is taxing to be singing that high constantly. hope we get a true tenor soon so i can be moved back and just chill lol.

[@tonato17]

It is very interesting what you say about thinning your vocal folds to reach higher notes. I think there are certain phoniatric, voice re education exercises can help the vocal folds in this regard. Any info on those exercises would be awesome.

[@brettweary8491]

Thank You for your Explanation Young Man

[@guypainter]

Baritones are the best yodellers! You wanna know why? Because we HAVE TO switch to falsetto to make the octave jump. We don't have to think about it because it's the only way we can do it. Yodelling isn't just about the notes, it's the alternating between the voices, and baritones just do it naturally, so ner. :)

[@umairmansoor1018]

Kim Taehyung has a deep voice, what's your opinion on him and his range?

[@MariaGabriela-ep1gt]

In other reactions I guess he said Tae is baritone

[@MultiKamil97]

He doesn't sound like he has a deep voice honestly.

[@tushh7506]

Im a tenor nd i can makr my voice sound deep or bright by changing larynx or mouth shape

[@jatinjb6815]

He didnt focus and practice singing as much as the other members and that's y he has a low range compared to the others

[@harshika2768]

@@MultiKamil97 u don't heard him and his voice then.

[@LoftyAssertions]

The reality I have come across is that being a bass is primarily an advantage; the only way to sing in that range is to have larger vocal folds - singing higher is all technique until you're in the extreme falsetto in which case I'd say it's health.

[@wise5746]

So what is Harry Styles’s voice type?? Is he baritone or Bass or Tenor?

[@lavyajaitly4330]

I think I am a baritone and I really like my richness and low notes and the bridge notes (f2 to g4). And honestly it just takes practice and infact perfect practice. So classifying your voice is good for knowing your strengths and weaknesses and work on them rather than getting caught up on it. Thanks Adam for such an amazing video☺☺

[@saghyszabi]

I think I'm a dramatic baritone. My range is really big (C1-A5) so yeah. I really like my low notes too. And when I sing something I really love to sing it dramatically.

[@Infinity777z]

@@saghyszabi keep up the the good work

[@jacobhuffty7411]

@@saghyszabi Dramatic Baritone is a opera classification. Unless you can sing Verdi's "Credo In Un Dio Crudel" or "Nemico Della Partia" without straining and with a large open sound. If you don't sing opera then lyric and dramatic terminologies are meaningless, because opera singers produce sound in a completely different way than other singers. They don't belt, fry, growl, and very rarely use falsetto. Take this recording for example. kzbin.info/www/bejne/laC0d3aAnrOgars The song doesn't have that large of a range (only a low Bb to a high F# around 2:50), but this is one of the hardest roles you can sing in all of operatic repertoire. Why? A lyric-baritone, bass-baritone, and heldentenor all have ranges that fit in that area. But voice type is not vocal range. Its literally the least important part. "Nemico Della Partia" spans the exact same range kzbin.info/www/bejne/a6mqoqCsn7lqrKs. This is sung by Titta Ruffo, a dramatic baritone who could barely sing below C3. Yet listen to how glorious the climax up to F# is despite having a pretty small range. Voice typing is not a ruler that measures your value as a singer, it is more like a glove. There is a glove size that fits you perfectly, but despite that you can squeeze into glove sizes slightly smaller or larger if necessary. Dramatic roles are rigid rubber that you can't fit in without being VERY close to the correct size, while lyric roles are far more stretchy and flexible. Conclusion, don't call yourself something you know nothing about.

[@saghyszabi]

@@jacobhuffty7411 thanks for this information. You're right, I didn't know it right and I shouldn't have to say sth without knowing what it means. I thought dramatic baritone means a more darker and heavier baritone but from now I call myself for a bass-baritone with knowing this. Thanks for this information again!

[@jacobhuffty7411]

@@saghyszabi Its fine. Operatic terminology, and especially fachs, can be confusing to people who aren't trained in the style (and even by those who are). When a lyric reads that its range is A2-A4, that is not the range of the singer who fits that mold. What that is is the highest and lowest note written in the entire lyric baritone repertoire. A dramatic baritone is not all that much lower (and is sometimes higher) than a lyric baritone. As I just showed, their are many dramatic baritone roles that don't even go lower than a lyric baritone's range. Most sources list the range of a dramatic baritone as G2-G4. But dramatic baritones are expected to sing "Si Puo" which has an optional high Ab that I rarely hear singers skip. I think the low G is from Il Tabarro, where the role of Michele has an aria that ranges from G2-G4 (two octaves in full operatic tone over a massive orchestra!!!!). If you want to listen to it here is Robert Merrill (the high G at the end is the best one i've every heard). kzbin.info/www/bejne/oWG6eGyJpsigpqM Bass-Baritone is interesting because a singer can either be more of a bass or more of a baritone. A singer like Tim Faust is on the bass side, while Geoff Castellucci is more of a baritone. For operatic music a singer like Samuel Ramey is more on the bass side, while Michael Bohnen is more on the baritone side. Bohnen is interesting because he sang both bass, bass-baritone, and dramatic baritone roles easily. There are recordings him singing low C's live, and then singing a high Ab from "Si Puo" in the same performance! Remember that opera singers don't use microphones, so his low C had to be at least half as loud as his high notes to be heard! I hope this kind of stuff interests you, as I think any singer can benefit from operatic training.

[@moonshine3781]

I am a baritone. Its just when i thin out my vocal cords, there is a noticeable contrast from my low register transitioning to my mix. Whereas for a tenor, they have a connected sound.

[@aundrestrotter6527]

I believe I am a Mid Baritone. I sing a lot old songs like Barry White. I sing his range easily. I feel i sound great singing older songs then modern songs.

[@Aninda_Creation]

But he was using falsetto to hit high notes he cant hit high with chest voice.thats the main problem

[@martinkuliza]

I'll even add to that I've been singing now for around 3.5 years , I've had professional tuition which has helped heaps. IT'S ABSOLUTELY POSSIBLE TO EXTEND YOUR RANGE - it's important to pick a vocal coach that actually knows what they are doing instead of instead of someone who stands there and goes through scales then throws out a song that you like to do that is in range on the verses but out of range on the chorus and they say , let's drop it 2 steps, and in doing so you pull off the song and then IT APPEARS as if they are a good coach and they got you to achieve something. This is a trick you shouldn't fall for , you will pay $50 -$80 a lesson maybe for 5 or 6 lessons until you figure out you're not progressing, Yes, there are some benefits to doing this, but.. it's not what you're getting lessons for. MAKE SURE THEY WORK ON ACHIEVING YOUR GOALS - it goes without saying that knowing how to breath properly is the most over used piece of advice that a singer can get - Practice is very important, Warming up is very important - LEARN TO RELAX, Learn to bullshit to yourself and tell yourself that a high note is actually pretty easy, pretend .. when your'e hitting a high note THAT YOUR'E BORED. You will be amazed at how much PSYCHOLOGY Plays a part in all your tension. But yeah.. Bit by bit (i'm a BARITONE) you'll get better I started with 1.5 Octaves , 2 if i stretched it (but that doesn't really count) I'm at around 3.5 Octaves now so things that i never thought possible (i'm from the 70s and 80s) Hitting the high note on TAKE ON ME - AHA Getting up there with SKID ROW - Monkey Business - Intro to Livin on a Chain Gang - 18 and Life - Quicksand Jesus and the high part on All My Friends are Dead At first i struggled on the chorus of Metallica - Nothing else matters NOW !! it's like nothing... it's eaasy (but then James is a Baritone) and harder things like Harvester of Sorrow... Not a problem now Beatles - Let it be for a Baritone... Tricky.. But the chorus is good for developing the connection between your chest and head voice Evanescence - Lithium Whitesnake - here i go again - Crying in the rain all those high screams of the 80s , Led Zep - Stairway to heaven , Whole lotta love i never thought in a million years that was possible NOW IT IS NOW... for me impossibilities seem like Steel heart - She's gone (the end of the song) but the verses... no problem the chorus... a bit of a stretch... but YEAH , OK SO YEAH... ABSOLUTELY POSSIBLE FOR A BARITONE TO GO INTO THE RANGE OF A TENOR. it just takes around 3 years of practice (Constant practice)

[@Michael-le5ph]

you can extend your range for sure but it doesn't change your vocal type. youtube teachers swear you can but they have virtually zero training themselves. nothing changes the sweet spot of your voice. find your tessitura and break and that is what you are. you can extend from there but believe me, baritones are baritones. stop trying to compete and write a song in your sweet spot. you are pressuring every baritone to be a tenor and that's just wrong.

[@martinkuliza]

@@Michael-le5ph I'm NOT pressuring every Baritone to be a Tenor i said a baritone can EXTEND THEIR RANGE and GO INTO THE RANGE OF A TENOR i didn't say they can change their voice type I didn't say a baritone could hit every note that a tenor can with the same level of relaxation..... Not a chance

[@MadMusician]

I also want to say I myself am a baritone and am quite happy with it. I say that because I've been exposed to all sorts of the right kind of music for my voice.

[@justanotherinternetspedhea1820]

I’m a bit of a low baritone, I can go pretty low and I’m working on singing higher. I’m not sure what my highest and lowest notes are but if I really push my falsetto I can hit a G5!

[@s0me0nelse]

Not only stamina, but also how many chest quality and richness could you put in the high notes, would you sound rich, or squick squeaky...

[@leviathandiabolo6296]

Is being a baritone a curse? Depends heavily on what you want. In the classical music context, it's definitely a curse knowing that high hitting tenors enjoy all the glory. In non-classical setting, not so much a curse but a thing that will actually make you stand out from all the boyish sounding tenors. Sure, you have a lower range but isn't that a good thing? You don't need high notes to make music. You can make excellent music in your own definite range. And in the real life content, why wouldn't you want a manly baritone voice? Chicks dig manly voices. Being a manly baritone should work in your favour in every other context. I'm proud to be a baritone with a really dark voice as a metal/hard rock singer. Many times, it makes me stand from the majority because my voice has that gritty, low end.

[@brianaguilar8283]

You don’t need to throw shade at tenor singers now

[@physicsisawesome696]

6:43 wow I liked that

[@mattdominmusic2271]

im a baritone but i also classify as a low tenor as a can sing quite pefectly in the tenor range. My voice is strong and bright and i enjoy my strong voice!

[@edu.santos]

Great info!

[@stmaosic]

I think the most important differnece is tone: tenors will have a richer and more resonant sound in the tenor high range compared to baritone / bass. Singers should work to expand their range, but it's also important pick the key that gets the best sound from their voice.

[@Michael-le5ph]

Yes. That is the right way. be true to yourself and certainly work on your range. but don't think a baritone is secretly a lazy tenor. nope, not true. LOL

[@BushcraftBBQ]

I’m a baritone-bass for reference here are the artists in that range “Elvis, Johnny Cash, Frank Sinatra, Jim Morrison, Neal Diamond, David Bowie. I like the company I’m in lol 😁

[@highlandparkguitarlessons8129]

I’m a tenor, the upper 5 octave register (F5-B5) is not difficult for me to get up there and even belt a lot pretty high. This is something that didn’t really take much training to do, just something I’ve always had. But when you are writing tracks, it’s not the best to have the vocals super high the whole song generally, and I definitely struggle more in lower 3rd register, and will hear vocal parts where I wish I had more strength in the lower range than I do yet, because I love the contrast of the lows and highs. So I mean, there are pros and cons to each range I guess to some degree. We always want what we don’t have lol luckily we can work on it .

[@AshdenMurphy]

I'm the line of a baritone tenor and I'm working on stretching and strengthening my range and power

[@owenraymond5243]

I'm a baritone, however most of who I looked up to such as Ed Sheeran, Taron Egerton, and Freddie Mercury, I both healthily and I'm sure unhealthily managed to expand to tenor and now have learn to be able do both, tenor is harder but I can do it, so I believe there's no curse it's all about time and training and discipline ❤

[@imtheonehero9305]

Yep. No curse.. but... Just because one can hit the height notes doesn't mean one will be comfortable sing those notes consistently and sounding good. For ex, I am baritone and can hit D6. if I were to sing a song that consists mostly of G4-c5 then ill just strain my voice.

[@rodneywashington2017]

I like Timbaland's Baritone. Especially those songs with Aaliyah, Keri Hilson, Nicole Scherzinger, Omarion and Justin Timberlake. He ranges up nicely, and drops it low and heavy to fill up the songs. He's always great speaking over tracks too. Bing Crosby and Isaac Hayes are my favorite Bari Voices.

[@FelipeArtista]

My trick is to go as high as I can in the baritone range and then jump to a falsetto... works every time, almost 😎

[@rdealy94550]

It seems that most people don't understand what is falsetto. To me falsetto is an attempt to be something other than natural. Listen to a Barbershop quartet. The tenor rarely is a tenor, but has trained the voice to produce high notes through falsetto, thin sound. The examples of Tim Faust clearly demonstrate falsetto for the high notes. As a baritone I prefer a full voice, without faking high notes with a thin falsetto sound. Falsetto is not all bad; most sopranos sing mostly in falsetto. Be true to self and stay within your natural voice.

[@AbsintheReverie]

I'm not a singer but I love the baritone singing voice. It is very sexy.

[@philo152]

*tries to lern to sing* well turns out im cursed

[@anthonyholmes3457]

I dont know if I agree. I think its important to play to your strengths. You dont want to do it to the point of restricting your vocal range but its important to feel comfortable while singing. I'm not a vocal teacher so maybe I have the wrong mind set. Hell that thought process could even be limiting my range. Let me know if someone disagrees.

[@donaldberton5121]

2nd barritone, latin operetic chior. ended up becoming a Chef, really miss singing in the kitchen. but, ya..nobody has a problem hearing me..anywhere, lol

[@darrenskjoelsvold]

Oh I remember when I was in church choir and I was pushed to sing tenor because the older guys couldn't hit the high notes even though I am a low baritone. It was exhausting but I did it. I ended up leaving the choir after a while.

[@TruthSurge]

I bet both my thangs that the Tim Foss dude can never sing the notes to Rainbow In The Dark with the tone of Dio if he is really a bass range. Baritone, yes, you can train and get there. I think Ronnie was that high baritone you spoke of. Yeah, if you do have a bass range, you are pretty much cursed if you want to sing high notes with the TONE of a naturally higher voiced person.

[@MrRoyBlue22]

🙏🏽 thank you

[@Meliodas-if7ze]

How do I thin out my vocal cords?

[@Michael-le5ph]

In other words you can use falsetto to pretend you are a tenor when you're not. This is PRESSURE from the music industry. Why can't they write music for a baritone? Because they don't want to. If you push the baritone voice too high you will get nodules and damage the voice. YOU ARE either a baritone or tenor and why in the world should you be pressured to try to sound like a tenor? Be yourself and write music for yourself. This is no different from saying most models are thin so if you're not then try to be. come on now. be yourself and don't try to sing songs that fit other voice types. With this reasoning you are saying if you;re not a tenor don't bother with modern music, just push your voice up there and fake it or damage it. In classical music or broadway this does NOT work and in the music from the 30s through the 70s you could be a baritone and be famous. The tenor thing is a trend, tenors used to be made fun of but now it's the thing to be or you are nobody. Don't listen to bad advice. train your voice to be the best YOU that you can be and then put new songs in that range. flood the market with baritones and the tenor trend will stop and then they will try to hit the baritone low notes and let's see what happens then. LOL--you can't fake the low notes. they are either there or they are not.

[@motisdelapisa4893]

Hi there can you give me a simple advice how i can sing higher c5 im a barritone i guess but our conductor considered me as tenor, im just a little bit struggling hitting d5 and above.

[@Teshima_Seiji.17]

Im a bass baritone singer, and my falsetto always cracks 😭

[@ummehabiba3407]

Thanks for the video It was very helpful

[@savkim6865]

I love your vids it really helps me alot.

[@roysapanza357]

Hello🙋 Sir😅 I'm one of the thousands avid fan of yours! All the way from Philippines. I just wanna ask about the title of the song that you played. I really like this song very much.

[@stephaniecorden9731]

Please react to bts stay gold live performance ?? PLEASE Many vocal coaches reacted to it but i only love ur reactions so please do it for us army’s♥️

[@SameerShah-hk2uf]

I too is waiting for his reactions. He is the most honest one. And he is the only vocalist who also try to understand BTS music.

[@Michael-le5ph]

Your voice IS your voice. If you are a baritone, then you ARE a baritone. If you are a tenor you ARE a tenor. If you sing pop, country or music with microphones there are shortcuts and head voice tricks to help baritones sound like a tenor. This all fall apart in a room with no amplification. It that situation your voice is your voice and falsetto does not carry therefore does not count.

[@royking7298]

I'm sorry. I think that if there is a "curse," it's peoples perception that low voices aren't nice to listen to. Why can't a baritone sing all the same music as a tenor, but in a lower key? A curse is that when a man sings in the range of a woman, people think it's so wonderful. On the other extreme when he sings actually in the high soprano range then suddenly he is less of a man. I think there are many misperceptions about male singers and their vocal range. I reject them all. I sing aything I want and I sing it in my vocal range. Yes, I challenge myself to expand my range in "both" directions because yes I want to be a well rounded singer. I also want to be ME, not someone else. Okay. No more soap-box for me. Love you all! Keep up the singing!

[@jivotnoto8712]

My chest voice is like from D#2/E2 to E5, go up A4 without any strugle, upto D5 with a lottle struggle and at F5 my voice begins to mix and at B5/C6 begins the head voice The bass at 3:33 isn't singing in chest voice. He sings rather in head voice. I can hit with head voice C6 with ease, sing clear to like F6/F#6 and I begin struggling at G6. At A6/B6/C7 I crack always but can hold it for a couple of seconds. Also I can whistle but sometimes my thoat just doesn't want to whistle. My average note while speaking is D3-F3. The thing I cannot understand about vocal classifications is that although my voice is pretty high my tembre is more dark and my voice isn't as thin as some high tenors and it doesn't resemble the thickness of the baritone voice. My voice sounds not so delicate but more dense and powerful. Is there like a tenor singing high notes like a tenor but with denser voice type or just baritone who is special and can sing higher notes.(dramatic tenor or lyric baritone)

[@theunknownbeing7]

I used to think I was a shitty singer with no vocal range because I could never sing along to contemporary music comfortably. But then one day I learned I just had a different vocal range and I just had to train on that instead.

[@savkim6865]

Can you please react to "little mix singing with no preperation" i just wanted to see your thoughts about how they sing and their techniques. Thank you🤗

[@chrisandrade3996]

Im baritone, my vocal range is G2-A4

[@dynamitegaming2193]

F2-D#5 here 😂

[@homeixgx]

3:30, What was going on there?

[@sfebon]

Best baritone singer of all time Jim Reeves

[@teddyj.3198]

Nope Levi Stubbs

[@male30plus]

Problem with lower range type like mine, it doesn't sound good in the upper range. While a tenor may sing a Marc Anthony's comfortably in a chest voice, I find myself struggling; and I have to switch to the falsetto mode to hit anything beyond A4 and it will sound terrible as my voice will become thinner, airy and no power... and sometimes nasal. So if I have to sing in front of an audience, I would only sing the oldies... 🤣🤣🤣

[@amalksuresh286]

Why not transpose and sing the same song in your range

[@Cymricus]

this thing said Eb2 to G4 so I look up baritone songs. they’re all in the 4th register lol

[@princejover9488]

i sound like a bass on my lower range B1 is my lowest in vocal fry and D2-E4 in chest/mixed and then I flip into falsetto at f4 going upwards I can go up to C5-G5 but it sounds unnatural

[@lucianogaspar9914]

My lowest in vocal fry is F1, but my chest voice is E2 and my speaking voice is usually G2. Am I a bass?

[@chunkycheese5854]

@@lucianogaspar9914 No probably a baritone, anyone can vocal fry into the first octave and even lower

[@bassmanxan3544]

"Unless you're singing in the opera or..." Well damn. Voice types haven't really helped me yet, even being in opera. I pretty much just know that I'm not a tenor. I think my voice is too low to be a baritone, but I don't think I can technically be considered a bass because, as much as it would be nice otherwise, I have the voice of a 19 year old and thus I won't be accepted as a more mature bass role anywhere because my voice /body (and my technique) hasn't developed enough to play them yet. So I guess for now I'll call myself a Bass-Baritone lol. For reference, my acoustically performed solo range is D2-F#4. I recently performed an oratorio where I had to sing those high F#s (highest note I've had to sing ever) and just yesterday I had my vocal jury where I sang a German piece with a D2 in it that I was able to fill the room with. I've had to sing lower than that in choir before, but not higher.

[@ramonsmith3706]

The worst thing is when your still learning to sing high notes and people tell you your voice isnt high enough. when I was learning to sing f4 and g4 everyone used to tell me when I was practicing to stop trying to hit those notes because my voice couldn't do it naturally. And now I'm belting g#4 and A4s Turns out I was a tenor. And I'm working on my a#4 and B4 belts And people are telling me the same thing🤨. A prime example of why people outside of your singing coach shouldn't judge what you can or cannot do

[@Maksim-Dolgun]

А как ты понял что ты тенор?, может ты очень высокий баритон с хорошими верхами или баритенор

[@rja1165]

I personally think that classifications are overestimated. Though years of training, I surely know that all depends of placement and where the voice resonates. I was cast as a bass baritone in lyrical class. I have strong low notes, which I can push down to the low C2 or lower somedays. But at the same time, I can hit the D5 full voice, and higher with mixed voice. The sound is clear, and closer to a tenor voice than a baritone one. But again, years of training, and a versatile voice from the beginning. I have been singing for 12 years, not so long after my voice change. And when I speak, it's always like a wave. I am the kind of extravert guy who speaks from D2 to G4. I thinks it's both genetics and practice.

[@cedricdi-martino6147]

When you say a baritone can hit tenor's notes is it true with the chest voice ?

[@jebVlogs556]

I'm a lyric baritone 😅 And I'm comfortable in that range,that's where I love to be. I can sing in tenor but it's tiresome for me not taxing at all. I love listening to other bari-singers as well(but I don't question their range,especially if they prefer where they are, never impose a notion if someone can or should go higher) if they choose to go higher that's their choice, and anyone need to respect that

[@luizsoares4847]

In a video where the topic is to not lose hope on singing high, i really would love to know how did you hit those low notes sir :D.

[@royswire8797]

I'm a BARITONE Tom Jones he sang I'll never fall in love again check that one out BARITONEs are very powerful and can make any song their own we have so many options with our voice low high I don't want to sing like a girl anyway . people ask me to sing Elvis songs and Johnny cash The Doors Aerosmith I don't want miss a thing the rolling stone you can't always get what you want. Jimmy Hendrix Trace Atkins songs a long list. thank God I'm vibrato voice BARITONE with all these affects these days well I feel lucky .I can still do it when there no power and so can you break out acoustic guitar ya good to go. just make sure you know the words to your songs and you will do just fine. BARITONE's we got this we own this :)

[@limo9402]

I don't have dynamic control and when I sing I keep singing in a way that strains my voice and gave me headaches, it's like I can't understand where my singing is meant to be. any help plz 😀

[@masteryoflife5133]

I can sing most of the notes a bass can sing, baritone, I can’t sing tenor notes very well, but I can sing a good amount of soprano notes.

[@a.tsuruya8]

Not hitting the bass notes is not a problem when there are no bass notes to hit.

[@kipponi]

What can sing acoustically and with mic is two different things.

[@goatsurgeon]

How about just love your voice and stay in your own range? Sounds more natural anyhow I can’t tell you how many metal bands are ruined because some lower range dude learns to sing higher than his natural range and it sounds fuckin’ weird

[@meganaldousvaleriano3138]

okay idk if im a tenor or alto cause my friends saying im a boy alto cause i can hit A2-E5-F#6-(B6 rarely E7 whistles still in progress cause i just recently discovered) i think my supported range is E3-B4(C5)-Eb6

[@markpw2613]

Most definitely. I dont care what people say. A baritone can never properly sound like a tenor, as even if u sing high, it will sound a lot more deep and sharper than a light tenor. You will get power but lose that light tone that you need for pop for instance, if thats what you trying to sing, say like Bruno.Mars, MJ etc. Not saying your range cannot be increased, because it can, but it its quite hard to soften the vocal when u have a deeper bass baritone timbre. You could probs get close witn falsetto. But i think you are born with the voice u have and have to try to work with it and i think its picking the right style that fits your tone.

[@johndeeregreen4592]

Yep, 100%. I am a true bass and can actually belt a C5 with ease (for one, being a bass, I tend to get a glottal onset/fry start a lot, so it gives me away)... but I definitely don't sound like a tenor doing it. Here is the thing, though: Michael Jackson was actually a low baritone, but had practiced and faked being a tenor for so long, he conditioned his vocal folds to sound natural doing it.

[@STARK0181]

Don't you think this mentality is limiting?? No two voices sound the same, even if they are the same "voice type". MJ, Axl Rose, Prince had deeper singing voices than speaking ones and they never let that limit them

[@johndeeregreen4592]

@@STARK0181, you understand MJ.s speaking voice was fake and he had been caught speaking normally a few times; his natural speaking was quite deep And, when it comes to modal singing and speaking voices, they are identical. You cannot fake a low note in chest voice (the other term for "modal"); if you can sing it in chest voice, then that IS your natural voice that is within your speaking range. Axl Rose IS a low baritone in speaking voice. Prince was verging on being a bass speaking voice. Anyway, no, you cannot sing deeper than you can speak... unless using vocal fry. It's is physically impossible.

[@STARK0181]

@@johndeeregreen4592 Sorry. I mistyped, I meant vice versa. Their speaking voices were lower than they're singing voices. I'm looking at getting into singing but one thing that alarming to me is this obsession with voice types. When I look anywhere online at anything regarding singing it just feels like vocal astrology. This fear/victimhood mentality around voice type is so irrational to the point that people spout conspiracies about MJ being chemically castrated as a child just to be able to sing the way that he did. So then they'res no point in working toward right? I just think it's a little silly.

[@GoldenPrince09]

I am so sorry to bother you. I know this is about belting. I found this online about the tenor range: By Some Standards Tenor = B2 - F4 or C3 - B4. I sing B2 - A4 and I can hit B4 and C5. My voice reminds me of the range Ed Sheeran sings in. I’ve noticed that my voice blossoms as I get higher in my range, it doesn’t sound deep but kind of brassy, bright, and a high tone. Please help. What vocal type do you think I may be? I would greatly appreciate your help.

[@jefolson6989]

I have the flip side of the baritone curse. I sound like a tenor, but have the range of a baritone ( without low notes)

[@vitormrmr]

You are a short tenor

[@alexbraun2189]

To sing more modern stuff why not just transpose songs to fit your range and just use some falsetto or just extend your range?

[@ganeshr18]

Hi Adam! a big fan of you man, plzz answer me if you got to see my question, does singer Charlie puth owns BARITONE ? , cuz my tone is as similar to Charlie when he speak

[@alexrivera8907]

x oh yeah I assume is yeah the lower your voices to lower your full vocal chords but my voice is pretty high so I’m assuming the higher my vocal cords are the higher voices yeahhh

[@litgamer6205]

I'd go so far as to say that most pop singers, today and in years past, are baritones stretching into the tenor range. I think the list of actual tenors in pop is pretty small, even accounting for the fact that the distinction is there for classical singing, not modern. Off hand I'd say Steve Perry is a tenor. It's so hard to say with Michael Jackson given that he was singing professionally when he was like 5 but I'd probably classify him as well (a couple generations earlier Mel Torme had a similar upbringing but he was always a high baritone as an adult). I'm sure there are others but I've even heard a good argument that Freddy Mercury would have been a baritone if he'd have sung classical...

[@twistedgamer9167]

I agree with you, but FWIW Michael Jackson’s lighter tone color indicates to me a possible baritone who had an extensive control over a head voice/“reinforced falsetto” type of mechanism, rather than a tenor quality. The lines are fuzzy and it’s obviously hard to tell because the style is so different, so who knows. But I agree - it seems that most pop singers I can think of really don’t “sound like tenors” as they are traditionally described. A lot of people forget that even though operatic literature doesn’t call for it, a trained baritone will still be able to hit C5-type notes, if they work at it. That doesn’t suddenly make them a tenor.