Is this a good idea?

[@DjMines]

Thanks for the mention Panda! love those shelves

[@RedPandaMining]

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[@kaytrim]

Good plan on the 'walls' around the rack. I would also put a top on it as well. Give yourself room to work back in the hot lane, 3-4 feet back there should be enough. You also may need another fan in the wall to exaust all the air from the octominers.

[@OZMining]

Good advice!👍

[@fudwiser1091]

Perfect plan. I would however consider a ceiling with the walls to channel the air flow through your octo shelf (box). Also keep the shelf ~4 feet from the fan wall with an access door so you can get to the back of the shelf. RPM 🚀

[@perrudidanielsen2014]

Once the air temp reaches above a certain temp. The cooling off cards will not work. As off right now I can no longer mine ETH + TON. Fresh air is to hot. Mining only ETH has no issues cooling GPUs. Server case or open frame. Best way of cooling is huge intake fans blowing towards the cards. High ceiling heights and big opening for hot air to vent outside. Adopt big farms cooling solution.

[@freddyhincapie4338]

try to install wheels to the rack so you can have it easier to do some maintenance

[@kreak403]

I wouldn't run the power cables through the mesh. Drop them down the back into the PDU, that way you could easily cable manage and get to them individually if needed. I'd also leave a minimum shoulder width of walkway behind for air flow and to get back there if/when needed. Maybe find a way to direct air towards your exhaust on the top to prevent it settling? Def wish they had single orders a while ago, I would have went with 3 from the get go...5 is just too much currently.

[@myminer815]

put the cases on the bottom shelf with the screen to the top. heat rises and you have them up high already. psu cables looped to center shelf. use the velcro straps for wire management and to hold to center shelf. plywood sides and cover with gpu boxes. tops shelf would be free for if you have to work on any cases.

[@huntmining]

You know there is one thing i would recommend. Heat rises, and well the only way to combat that is a wall. I would Seal completely the top shelf away from the bottom to create 2 "wind tunnels" so to speak. I can almost bet you will see much better temperatures on the top cases. I'm already dealing with 96F temps and so far so good!

[@OZMining]

Good advice!👍

[@alltrac89]

Run your power around the back and run network through wire mesh. Its always a good idea to separate data and power runs to avoid crosstalk/ interference. "Ethernet energy levels are fairly low partly to ensure that adjacent Ethernet cables in a trunk can coexist without much crosstalk. But with power lines, antenna feeds, and so forth, this can be an issue."

[@TechManTY.]

Why not just get 2x4 and paneling, build walls on the sides of shelves? You could put a door in the back wall to get into the " hot box" . Then as far as cable management goes, Lowe's or home Depot should have those strips for rakes in the garage. You can put those on the back of rack and just push wires in the foam slots to hold them and easy to remove 😎

[@OZMining]

Good advice!👍

[@dzmedia]

Thats the exact shelving unit and setup i have. I had 2 1800cfm gable fans trying to pull all the hot air out. Here is the issue you will have if you use a bunch of octo miners. You will actually cause a high pressure area inside your HOT enclosure. The octo miner fans push 240cfm per fan at 100% so add up all your fans cfm and then see how little cfm that 20" fan pulls out. I have a few photos and ideas but Cant really share on KZbin.

[@wx2833]

You can drop the pics; and other content in RPM's Discord Channel; if already on Discord, ( can be a Good Resource ).

[@goodmax48]

I'd rather put sheet of plywood over the metal mesh, so the weight of your rigs would be spreaded more equally across the metal beams of the shelve

[@cheongwl7135]

Build a small seal partition and slot in the case , the hot air will totally not expose to the room environment

[@TheAckdog]

First thing that comes to mind is heat generation for all supporting equipment (PDUs, network appliances, miner cases) as hot air rises.

[@juggernautz]

Use velcro straps or whatever to neaten up the wiring and run the cables under and up through the wire mesh to clean up the look and make it easier to clean around wiring. You need a gap between server cases and the exhaust fans, the current distance looks ok plus it gives you room to trouble shoot & move around.

[@marklawrence4427]

RPM didn't you get PSU splitters with those Octo 8s? With my x12s they came with a 3 to 1 PSU cord, then I just got extensions for those, will save you a lotta sockets using those splitters. FYI got a husky frame and got mine setup the exact way you are doing it, let the power cords wrap around the back so they don't pinch as much with hard angles. GL on the build!

[@RonaldMcDonald6969]

I built a hot aisle for my asics, works way better than the open air design.... if you want this to work, you'll need to figure out cfm per machine and match the exhaust cfm to the cumulative total of your machines. then add some hvac sheets to close off the hot aisle so it all goes out the exhaust. will also need intake fan to match the exhaust fan cfm.

[@wx2833]

Your Mining rigs need to be as low as possible, where the air is cooler; I tried multiple auto shutter fans to remove the hot air; the problem with that method is the heat will not go where you want it too, and the temp will increase anyways despite your efforts; unless you have a heat collector, ( I had to bring in a heating & cooling guy to evaluate my setup ). I bought a 48x48x80 grow tent and I have six inch, insulated duck hose running to an enclosed full sized blower motor, ( squirrel cage type ), which moves a lot of air outside. Before I had enclosed the blower motor it would suck both doors shut; but hot spots would still accumulate. I added an 8,000 BTU window a/c and remove the venting, built a box to run a 4 inch hose to pump cool air directly into the bottom, and removed the garage door to the shop, built a wall and installed another 14,000 BTU a/c to condition the air that is pulled inside of the grow tent from the three vents around the bottom. I didn't get the cheap tent made with 500D materials, I got the one with thicker 2000D. I have 6 rigs, by 8x GPU's ( around 55 cards ), 4 asics and 10 fpga units and it stays around 64° Fahrenheit now. The hot air will ride right above the air stream moved out by your auto shutter fan, you will end up pushing out the mid range temps while the hot air continues to accumulate and build up, from the top to the bottom. I have tried different versions every year for the last five years, and finally beat it with this setup; and you can actually talk to someone over the delta fans in the tent. Maybe if you seal the sides and across the top with a roll of the silver thermal barrier going back to the fan; but if you leave any place for the heat to escape, the hot air will not move side to side, even if you create a draft, it will still move in an angle going up and accumulate over a given time frame. If you run the cases vertical, eventually, the upper cards will also run hotter, than if you had them horizontal; you can never completely stop some heat from going up. Where the hot spots start to accumulate, was baffling, ( it can move looking for a way to move higher as the temps go up. I had to get a ridiculous amount of thermometers, ( it was cheap ), place them around the room, in layers to figure out where it starts to build; I could have tried a heat laser, but then I could only read one spot at a time; once again mining caused me to learn a spin off subject; that taught me how to improve the heating and cooling efficiency in the house also. ( which off set my power bill in a positive way ). Does your barn have a "Ridge Vent" ? If not, it would help to release heat. Hopefully, this gives you some ideas that apply. Peace

[@OZMining]

Good advice!👍

[@SlothTechTV]

heyyy i've got one of these in my living room! :D Great plan btw -- love the clean design and PDUs on the "baby shelf"

[@RedPandaMining]

[@michiganbasemaniac]

might want to get the hot/cold side figured out too. going to make a big difference once the summer heat hits.

[@HawkCryptoTech]

I got the same one in black, bolted to the floor with electrical attached now. I have the isle too, I'll post a video shortly. waiting for it to be done being built.

[@soxfan_9631]

The place that hosting your ASICS have a similar setup for shelving. See how they do their cable management

[@fernandlehners7787]

actually what I am missing is a suitable rack with the rails for the octominers. So that you can put them horizontally and remove them for maintenance, without removing them completely like you have to do it now.

[@Darus2013]

is the 22 inch fan loud and does it suck lots of cfm?

[@covenant11]

put your network on your little shelf and your pdus on the vertical stanchions of the shelving unit. use velcro ties to mount all the power cables to the shelf itself as they route to the pdus. Fan em out real clean, narrow them into tight bundles and label everything (color coding works really good too).Your pdus will end up a mess on that shelf. I've used shelves similar to this. We put big ass locking casters on the bottoms so we could relocate entire shelves if we wanted to, just by disconnecting power to the pdus and primary LAN to the switch.

[@anthonyd4238]

As much as it would look awesome, i recommend not go through the wire mess as it will cause too much of a bend which will adds unwanted stress to the components.

[@jonminsterman4313]

I watch this vid 2x to get a full understanding of what youre doing. if it was me doing this project this is what i would do. 1. see what the price difference between 4x8 sheets of plywood and say 1/2 inch or 3/4 inch 4x8 sheets of styrofoam is. 2. I would get enough to be able to build walls on each side of the rack. i would put a shelf at the very top and put a piece of material there. 3. i would get enough material to be able to angle in from the sides towards the fan. thats just my take on it I would also do my wires off the back side and not through the wire shelving as this would make it easier to access each server. do you really want to be fishing wires through the shelving every time you need to access a server case?? I also used to work at lowes many years ago and would have to change out this type of racking but on a bigger scale. As long as the uprights and/or crossbeams arent bent the structural integrity is fine. Scratches are ok only worry about it if it's bent.

[@BlackCoinCrypto]

If your aiming for flow through your miners and strait out the fan. I think your going to needed to check the max flow of your extraction fan, that it exceeds the the flow through your miners. I recon leave it as is and see what happens, make your next move based of what the measurements you take.

[@DIYNorth]

Canadian Tire has good metal shelves. Like all things at Canadian Tire, you need to wait until they are 50 to 70 percent off.

[@MeatballCB]

You can get the same racks at Lowes as well for about the same price. They have basically the same thing as Kobalt (Lowe's Brand - Gray color) or Edsal Muscle Racks (black color). The Kobalt is a bit more of a pain to setup because the sides don't come pre-assembled, but they've been great. One suggestion is to get some big zip ties and at least zip tie the grates to the back rail. If you don't have much on the shelf, the grates can slide a bit as you move stuff on/off the shelf. I also zip tied a 1x2 board along the back edge so I don't accidentally push anything off the back since it's not up against a wall.

[@SpuriousECG]

"Summer is coming" is to miners what "winter is coming" is to Game of Thrones. I have a similar shelf from Costco that is also really high quality compared to Amazon Basics shelving, but costed significantly less. Also it might be a good idea to load the shelves from the bottom up so there isn't a squished Red Panda, even though the unit is very stable, being top heavy is never good imo.

[@eliezeralvesmartins]

Miner ether is finish?

[@Scardaddy]

@Red Panda Mining Install the PDUs on the shelf legs, it would be better for airflow.

[@1nfiniteloop]

Hey RPM, awesome update video. IMO I would not have the small shelf in between, I would try to mount PDU's and Networking on the side of the shelf. Either cable ties or some other method (Velcro straps? ) :) that way airflow is not impeded (if thats important) between shelves. You can mount PDU horizontally at the back of the shelf OR vertically on the upright part of the shelves at the end.

[@marcomunoz7453]

If you move them, put them on the bottom racks. I have mine at like 42” off the ground. The air is a few degrees cooler and it’s really got me wanting to move them like 6 inches from the ground.

[@davidtadlock69]

Personally I'd go over and not through the mesh. if you need to service or rearrange it'll be easier. I'd also route my Ethernet separate from power to avoid any interference. Best way to get good ethernet lengths would be to custom make the runs yourself. Box of CAT5, bag of RJ45 connectors, electrician scissors, RJ45 crimper, and a ethernet cable tester. All of which you can buy at Home Depot or Amazon. Hope that helps. Mine on!

[@Brikrender]

have you considered a restaurant hood with return air on it?

[@beebcrypto2023]

Great idea for those rack setup!

[@Brikrender]

You can get a used 4 or 6 foot hood relatively cheap even today with all the food services failing, the return air would solve your negative air pressure problem so the fan isn't working so hard and you can turn it up in the hot season and down in the cold months.

[@eddiechi1]

Those are great for large rigs.... I bought 6 of those units when I saw them on sale at $119.... was best mining investment of year!

[@wearethenetwork9232]

I will never get over the fact how loud it is in that barn

[@beebcrypto2023]

Just wire tie those PDUs to the back of your shelf holding your Octominers and you could do the same with your switch if you have some where to wire tie on that switch. No need for that lower mid shelf.

[@miketheminer]

Cables through the mesh forsure and add side wall, a top and maybe a second fan.

[@bruthacrypto1334]

You should actually put all the octominers on the bottom shelf because as it gets hotter the heat will settle closer to the top and cool air always come from below.

[@pioneersmokehouseschannel]

years ago I made a vacuum airflow box for my ASICs. I pushed a rosewell case up on the other side and it worked great. Basically I built a box with 120mm slots and shelves for the ASICs and PSUs. Then I cut a large hole out of the side of the box to match up with my garage window, that I removed and added a screen and bars. I then installed sub panels and a large network switch... I added a webpage to my electric trolling motor website, mostly so my buddy would by the correct parts for the mine I built him.... See the picture near the bottom of the page if this works

[@pioneersmokehouseschannel]

I make my living on mining, websites, and youtube.... but building things and fishing are my Favs, lol

[@OZMining]

@@pioneersmokehouseschannel good combination!!👍😎

[@coffeegator6033]

Could use the columns of boxes as walls for airflow

[@ronwatkins5775]

Where did you get the temperature controller for the louvered fan? I have one of those fans but it's either on/off, not temperature controlled.

[@richardsheltra7325]

You can go on Amazon and order a gable vent fan that is app controled. 2 speed is like 169 and 3 speed is 229 I believe. Each move approximately 2900+CFM. Just make sure you have some where on the opposite side that your drawing fresh air In as well. The gable fans I'm speaking of are whisper quiet, and they even have 40watt ones like 259 or something that move 2000 CFM. Pretty good price as well

[@ronwatkins5775]

@@richardsheltra7325 I already have 2x 30 inch louvered 220V fans for my tuff shed, but they just plug in to the 220V line and don't have anything to control speed. Im looking for a temperature speed control?

[@SLowe-tp1ri]

Why not do both because that may keep your wires organize

[@Techisol]

Thats the same shelf i have. I enclose my miner and have a cloudline 6inch blower, exhausting my heat outside the window. My miner intake is twice the size of my exhaust

[@thetoxicminer6854]

You should put some of your GPU box wall on the bottom shelf. Put a couple of your X12s just below you X8s horizontally, might have to go down one more level. Then you can hide your cables behind the octominers.

[@demon_ghost_6662]

Why dont u make the Ethernet cables ur self? For custom length?

[@SLowe-tp1ri]

I have those in my garage! I hope you don’t have to move the rack because that’s going to be heavy and then you have break it all down.

[@wmwnwmn]

Your almost there, but your current plan will leak too much air around all of the cracks and crevices. If I had your setup I’d seal up all sides of the octominders so that the only air that exits out of your exhaust fan has been drawn through an octominer case. Air is a liquid and will travel the path of least resistance. Flowing through your shelf grating and “PDU shelf” is way less work for the air than blowing through the octominer.

[@Jfa-letsgo]

I put 2 foot of space in the back of mine gives room to do work back there all my wire are in the back I put a door on the side I opened it in winter to heat my garage . I put 4 box fam in font pushing air through my rigs I have no fan on my rigs opened then air gets pushed out the window it has no where else to go the back completely seal no exhaust fan at the moment rigs are the coolest they have even been .cool in the summer and heats my garage in winter and looks clean you no wires

[@davidlussier7447]

under then over rather then through the wire mesh

[@tancakar8987]

my octominers are all vertical, when you need to get to a rig its alot easier. Looking good!

[@frankheidemanns5250]

I'm concerned that the wall fan isn't enough to serve all the Octominers.

[@TheDlacey31]

I always thought it was better for octominers/ server case fans pull air through them instead of push air through them?

[@TwiztidHammer]

I have these same shelves in my garage. They are fucking rock solid. Thought about clearing one off to put mining rigs on when my build gets big enough

[@Red_man1]

Foam would be less flammable than wood.

[@dakotaminer1493]

Sides do a 1x4x8 frame with plastic and top exhaust fan will pull it out

[@josemarcialfriasmanon3227]

Is it healthy for the Motherboard slots to be in vertical ? I thing that is a lot of weight for the motherboard

[@RedPandaMining]

Time will tell

[@spkrokko]

it's about time you did something with the cooling

[@a3_a3]

monoprice has a bunch of c13-c14 cables at different lengths and colors

[@chadlington1]

Hey brotha so if I have 100k or more to invest in mining rigs, what would you do?

[@BRAVOOcity-vlog-music]

Hey man i want to hear it from you ... what are your thoughts on a 10K $ mining rig ... from cheap and profitable GPU's ??

[@llcoolturtle5378]

you want the rack far enough away from the wall so the fans don't create a lot of turbulence, at least 4 feet

[@sixtyinsix]

I'd have mounted it on casters to move it around, but otherwise looks good.👍

[@scottheir]

Great idea, just make sure your intake and outake cfm are close to each other. Orginally with my setup i had too much intake due to outake window size.

[@OZMining]

Top tip! 🤓🤓

[@flamesna4938]

I would recommend getting a mini slip system for that place great video

[@nguyenson7073]

Maybe you should start making your own c13 c14 cables, one end is c14 split to 2*c13. Or just order an electrician to do for you.

[@robertbarnes4887]

Rural king has them to i just don't know if they are red they are like $240

[@mrt5393]

I would not run the octominer vertically due to GPU sag, especially the huge EVGA cards which are built like a brick

[@sofosoc]

@Red Panda Mining, do a test on everything rig vertical vs horizontal. I had an issue especially with some larger cards when I placed the Octos vertically I noticed higher temps. I ended up with the cases on top of each other with stacks of 2.

[@shozaib1978]

Great work bro, waiting to see them align and working 👍

[@Dcs987]

just use your gpu boxes to build the walls behind the shelves

[@whopfi]

Looks nice, but I wonder if that setup is safe when suddenly earthquake occur...

[@tahitiindigo]

Pass cable through, very good idea, this look very nice !!!

[@dustinavery9788]

Make sure the shelves are grounded.

[@thomaswestwood5227]

pull from the ceiling blow out to exhaust its all trapped in the dome

[@squirrel6687]

Single octominer purchase?

[@StoicPoliticalHistorian]

ahh @Redpandamining if i where u id only put them vertical if your using liquid metal, if u think about it heat wise horizontal is better considering heat rises but with no liquid metal

[@MidnightPixies]

thanks bro for helping me builid rigs

[@johnnymathes5215]

Red panda you should look into coroplast to use to funnel your air. Working great in my basement

[@chillvideos5296]

Great idea, should definitely do it! Cant wait for the next update on it!!!!!

[@masterventus8420]

Split the wait as best you can. Bottom and top

[@behrmann9431]

RPM your Idea is awesome, I know it will be nice to get it done!

[@boinker139]

If you section off the exhaust and make a channel then you will need the sum of your exhaust fan will need to meet or exceed your octominers fans. Get out your calculator and do some math or you will have exhaust recirculation issues and potentially burn up fans.

[@sandeepyadav1602]

Red Panda plz make a review video on 12 usb port mining motherboard.

[@dragasan]

I can't comment on your setup, but I will comment on your "that sucks!" portion of your video. Yeah, it does sucks that everything is getting more expensive. It looks like the only first world countries that are having supply chain problems are the US and possibly Canada. I've been traveling around quite a bit lately, and even nations with currency issues can keep their shelves stocked. I wish I knew the truth about all this, but something is definitely going on with America, specifically. :(

[@cgooch_]

So I completed an x12 and x8 rack just like this. If you’d like a video walkthrough, I can DM you a video or link to an unlisted video if you’d like. In short, keep going the direction you’re headed.

[@compresourcegroup3257]

I'd love to see this video too!

[@FullJikama]

It’s up to you

[@philngreatgaming5481]

I bought infinite cables based on your recommendation in a past video and I love them!

[@thepapervigilante2208]

To much wood there, be careful

[@dmining65]

I have two of the exact same... same color too I love them!

[@shamsulazhar]

Say nicesesh shelf quickly 10x

[@JRTheElectronicGuy]

It’s not a bad idea I think it will work well being in a basement you’re kind of limited especially how big you are now

[@monkeyminer892]

Very NICE!!! Great idea

[@blackmennewstyle]

The price is really awful for sure, goddamn inflation... P.S.: You are overspending quite a lot my brother lol

[@johnnycamp7671]

What is everyone’s obsession with turning octominers vertical? Just trying to avoid stacking and any heat transfer between units?

[@garymaya1767]

Excelente idea! Keep them coming!!

[@hardi5793]

i mis your old rigs. dont get me wrong. you are a king in what you do. But i just miss the lights and blinking an the fans the wires the colors. "the Art". :() Neverless thank you for all you tought me so far.